HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PCCRRA 2023/07/18 (2023-2024)Policy Committee on Climate Resilience
and Regenerative Agriculture
3`'d Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
July 18, 2023
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Policy Committee on Climate Resilience and
ORDER: Regenerative Agriculture was called to order at 9:06 a.m., in the Council
Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Chair.
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Present
Absent & Excused
STATEMENTS
FROM THE
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Chair
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Vice Chair
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member (came in later)
Ms. Cindy Evans, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
The following individual registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Lynda Williams
Res. 203 (Comm. 361), in opposition.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 203-23: ADOPTS THE 2023 INTEGRATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AS THE COUNTY'S
OFFICIAL STRATEGIC PLAN TO ACHIEVE ITS EMISSIONS MITIGATION
AND CLIMATE ADAPTATION GOALS AND TARGETS
Seeks to mitigate the County's greenhouse gas emissions and reinforce County assets,
services, and infrastructure to adapt to the impacts and hazards of climate change.
Reference: Comm.361
Intr. by: Ms. Galimba (B/R)
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Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 203-23. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, we have some of the designers and leads for this
integrated climate action plan here in the Hilo Chambers. Bethany Morrison,
Kendra Obermeier, and Jake Sykes. Folks, maybe you could come forward and
provide a high-level overview, and then we can move to questions and comments
from the Council. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Planner Bethany Morrison came forward to address
the members of the Committee.)
MS. MORRISON: Good morning, Council. Bethany Morrison, Long -Range
Planner with the Planning Department, and I'm happy to provide that overview,
and then we also have Kendra, as you mentioned, and Jake from R&D (Research
and Development). I believe also, Director Douglass Adams might be in the
Council Chambers in Kona and can answer questions as well.
I just want to provide a quick overview of this effort and really highlight kind of
the history of how this came to be and the process that we went through, which
the testifier spoke to today. And then we can go over some of the specifics of the
draft itself.
In 2020, Research and Development put together a first Climate Action Plan that
really focused on reducing greenhouse gas emissions. And Planning Department
participated in that, but we were kind of running things a little bit separately. And
so, at that same time Planning Department, Research and Development, and also
working with Civil Defense, applied for funds for a climate adaptation plan with
FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) Hazard Mitigation funds. That
intended to be part of the 2020 Multi -Hazard Mitigation Plan update, but because
of the timing of the funds that didn't come to pass. So, what we did was kind of
run that as a separate effort.
When those funds did become available, Research and Development was also
able to leverage funds for us to join an eclat, which is local governments for
sustainability integrated climate action planning cohort program. And so, that
intention was really to help us integrate both climate mitigation and adaptation
into one plan.
We did hold some initial workshops and put together a working group with
various community members as we worked through really understanding our
scope given our resources and the goals of this process. We contracted with
Focus Planning Solutions and Tetra Tech. And we were also able to leverage
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several Vistacore members for this effort as well and of course, in -kind resources
to this.
During the drafting, the Planning Department and Research and Development had
regular check -ins with our administrators to make sure that we were on the same
page and in alignment with guidance and direction. And that really helped us
to —even though we were two departments, we were working united for this.
And then of course we met with each County agency to review the risk and
vulnerability assessment of county resources, and the mitigation, and adaptation
intervention strategies. This included focusing on implementation and looking at
the smaller actions that each department could do to help move this forward. So,
it really was, you know, what can the county do right now to make progress in
this very important task. And then because we already had some of those
working groups in place through the CIP (Capital Improvement Project), we were
able to leverage a lot of those meetings to pull together departments and continue
working collaboratively, which was really unprecedented collaboration for a plan
like this.
The draft was made available for the public on Konveio, as the testifier
mentioned, and that platform really allows for folks to make comments actually in
the document and see and interact with other people's comments. So, it is a
platform that is really intended to get that public input and really stimulate public
engagement. During that one -month comment period we received 295 comments,
which again was really a good effort there. And then the final draft addressed
those comments and was completed and submitted to meet our grant funding
deadline. This plan has also been nominated for the American Planning Associate
Hawaii Chapter Awards for best practice and our fingers are crossed. We'll be
notified by the end of this month on that.
Now is the time for the County to make a bold commitment to be accountable for
our own contributions to climate change and the resilience of our infrastructure
and services. And so, this resolution really supports that framework to help us
move county actions forward. We will be still working on what the overall
county can do, what citizens can do, but we really wanted to focus on taking care
of our house first. That was the intent of this. And then I can turn it over to
Kendra and she can give us an overview of the plan. Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Research and Development Climate Change
Specialist Kendra Obermaier came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MS. OBERMAIER: Aloha, Council. My name is Kendra Obermaier and I'm the
Climate Change Specialist with the Department of Research and Development.
So, thank you for the opportunity to share about the ICAP (Integrated Climate
Action Plan) today. The ICAP has three main goals. One is to increase county
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capacity for climate action, two is to reduce county contributions to greenhouse
gas emissions, and three is to increase the resilience of county assets.
So, the ICAP includes three main components to reach these goals. One is our
analysis, two are the climate cascade actions and three, the implementation
section. So, for the Analysis we overlayed county assets, this includes roads;
wastewater lines; county buildings; et cetera, on top of climate change related
hazards. The hazard layers were created using best available data based on
climate change projections. So, some of these hazards occur without the
influence of climate change but are being exacerbated by climate change like the
prevalence of an intensity of tropical storms.
So, this analysis helped us identify our most exposed assets. We also used the
Hawaii County Greenhouse Gas Inventory to inform what actions the County
could do to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The actions were divided into five
categories called climate cascades. So, the cascade framework was developed to
link climate mitigation, which is the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions to
climate adaptation, which is our resilience to climate change. So, if you look at
page IV in roman numerals of the document, the cascade framework is outlined
and there are intervention points identified at each level.
The five cascade levels include: 1) Greenhouse Gas Emissions, which leads to
2) Increasing Air and Sea Surface Temperature; and then leads to 3) Drought and
Severe Rainfall; 4) Sea Level Rise; and then lastly 5) Compounding hazards such
as increased risk of landslides. So, the actions in each section reflect how the
County itself can intervene and prevent further cascading effects.
The plan also includes co -benefits for the actions including economic,
sociocultural, and environmental co -benefits. Lastly, the plans include an
implementation section. So, this section addresses larger systemic barriers that
should be addressed to facilitate the actions going into effect. And I think that
really speaks to the collaboration between the departments because these were
some of the larger issues that arose beyond just implementing one or two specific
actions to mitigate climate change.
So, initial implementation and next steps include developing a dashboard to track
and make transparent, a. the implementation of the ICAP and b. our metrics of
success. Some of the earliest actions in the ICAP include gathering the data
necessary to measure the success of our actions. So, we're working on this now
and aim to make the dashboard public in the early fall. We're also working with
the State Climate Commission to develop a statewide climate action plan using
$3 million of funds, $350,000 of which will go directly to the County from the
EPA's (Environmental Protection Agency) Climate Pollution Reduction grant.
So, this effort will expand our climate action planning to be more community
wide. Thank you.
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CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you, Kendra. Director Adams is here in Kona. I
wondered if you had anything you wanted to add?
(Note: At this time, Research and Development Director Douglass Adams
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. ADAMS: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. I think the only thing I
would add is how proud I am of the team that put this plan together. The work
that they've gone through, this was a multiyear process with a variety of different
individuals, and then the completion of this with the team from Research and
Development and from Planning to bring this together with the support of the
community and specifically the advisory group that was a part of that. And then,
as I think they've probably already mentioned we had, you know, over
300 comments that they had to go through to make sure that this particular plan
had the latest information from interested members of our community as well.
So, they're very proud of the effort that they've made so far. We all know that we
have a lot of work to do in implementation, but this was a good first step from my
view. Thank you.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you. Council Members, any comments.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yes, please.
CHR. GALIMBA: Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: First off, I wanted to thank Bethany and Kendra and Doug for
being here today, for your diligence and tenacity in taking on this really
challenging project that we are in dire need of. As I've stated in a prior meeting,
we all know that perfection is overrated and unattainable, but what you guys have
created in this document and its comprehensive inclusive tackling of an issue that
is near and dear to my heart. And as we await the potential landfall of a tropical
storm right now, the timing seems very appropriate to be discussing these things.
I had a quick question and I'm not sure who can answer it for me. But are carbon
credits —one of our testifiers mentioned something about this plan not including
carbon credits. And I am aware that those are things that are very —I was actually
at an amazing alaka`i presentation at NELHA (Natural Energy Laboratory of
Hawaii Authority) yesterday, talking about carbon credits and aquaculture and all
these interesting scientific and economic dynamics, and I wondered if carbon
credits would even be a topic that would traditionally be included in a climate
action plan? They seem somethingI'm not sure if it's really in the jurisdiction
anyway, of county government to tackle that issue in our County Climate Action
Plan.
MR. ADAMS: So, I'll take an initial stab at that and then I'll let the team that I'm
sure actually did cover this as a part of their conversations whether it was
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included in the plan or not. But I think your discussion of this is correct. For the
taxing perspective, county has its ability to talk real property taxes and then the
rest of it really belongs to the state. So, in terms of what the carbon capture kind
of credit situation would be is that that's likely a state issue as opposed to a
county issue. So, it wouldn't have been something we'd necessarily consider.
But I do believe that they probably did have some conversations about it, so I'll
turn it over to them.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you.
MS. OBERMAIER: Thank you for your question. So, Section ID4 of the plan
talks about carbon credits and kind of where we are with our initial exploration of
carbon credits and like Director Adams said, the conversation about a carbon tax
is more happening at the state level and there was actually, just in the past year or
a year and a half, a report release on what a carbon tax might look like for the
State of Hawaii and what would maybe be the most effective way to go about
that. But for the scope of our plan what we really focused on was ore accessing
existing carbon credit markets and also what it would look like for accessing
future carbon credit markets.
So, I'd focus our attention on page 40, which includes two main actions. One is
partnering with the state to explore carbon markets for which the county is
eligible, and this includes establishing reporting standards that would measure the
carbon sequestration of ag and conservation land, because currently there aren't
kind of uniform ways to measure that and that would be important for people to
access those carbon credit markets and make that accessible to all community
members.
Second is partnering with state agencies to investigate the potential of accessing
national carbon credit markets for county owned and managed properties. So, this
is something that we say we'll probably not start until 2028, in terms of what
we're ready for and where those markets look right now. But some of those
initial conversations are actually already happening about what it looks like to
even access those credits with our existing properties. So, that's where we are
now. It's more of the exploratory stage and then understanding the sequestration
potential of our lands and of our, both county owned and community -wide. But
yes, it does address that and there is a focus on it already in the County.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you. Somehow, I'm not surprised by your answer. But
I just really wanted to take the opportunity to highlight it in case there are other
people who share the concerns of our prior testifier. Unfortunately, it is
impossible to get information out to everyone and there are so many people in
different sectors and capacities of our community focused on and working
towards solutions to mediate the issues we're facing. And my hope is that we can
all continue to work together and by bringing this forward, those that show
interest and have felt maybe not as included as they'd like to be, we'll take the
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initiative to reach out to you folks in a positive and in the spirit of collaboration
and contribution. But I personally and professionally am so impressed and so
grateful for this document and this coming forward and being approved right in
alignment with the Office of Sustainability, Climate Equity and Resilience
(OSCER). I believe there's a synchronicity there that strengthens our ability to
move forward as a county.
And I see Jake (Sykes) behind you there, Kendra. And I know you guys have all
put blood, sweat and tears into this project. And I thank you, Director Adams,
and Bethany in Planning just all the work that's gone into this. There will
always be opportunities for improvement. But we are making the best decisions
we can, based on the information that we have at this time. And I believe you
guys have presented a wealth of information and a wealth of opportunity and
avenues for us to improve and continue to take a leadership role not only in the
state but nationally and kind of create a model for what's possible. So, thank you
so much for this and I will be wholeheartedly supporting the passing of this with a
positive recommendation to Council. With that, I yield.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you, Council Member Villegas. Hilo?
MS. KIMBALL: Chair? This is Council Member Kimball.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you. Council Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, guys, for being here to present
today and congratulations on the nomination of this project for best practices
award. I think it's well deserved, and I really wanted to say that I enjoyed the
platform that you utilized to get public feedback. I thought it was really useful
from the standpoint that many times in these sort of commentary periods, you
don't actually get to see the comments of others. So, it was really useful, I
thought, to go through and read that input that was coming from other community
members from the place that I was sitting.
One of the areas that there was some commentary about that I wanted to give you
the opportunity to really describe the intention on the record was around the
County's prioritization of utilization of PONC (Public Access, Open Space, and
Natural Resources Preservation) funds for certain purchases. And so, I don't
know who wants to take that, but I know there was some concern about the
original wording and that you guys have modified it. But I just wanted to give
that opportunity for you to share what the intension was in that particular portion.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you Council Member Kimball. Happy to address that.
Yeah so, there was quite a bit of feedback on an initial action that involved using
potentially PONC for acquiring coastal properties that could help us alleviate
from sea level rise hazards. And so, the intent was really to note that it's going to
take all kinds of funding to address these things and we need to be looking
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broadly at those funding mechanisms. So, we've modified that language based on
the feedback that we got, and the language now reads, this is action 4A3.1; to
identify funding sources and mechanisms to acquire coastal properties in areas
exposed to coasted hazards exacerbated by sea level rise. And so, just a tweak to
that to really say that we weren't trying to target PONC funds necessarily, we
were just looking at what are those funding mechanisms that can help us acquire
those coastal properties.
MS. KIMBALL: Great. Thank you. And thank you for being so receptive to the
feedback. You know, I think that there was just generally concern about some
sort of buyout program for wealthy landowners that, you know, made the choice
to purchase a coastal area and when I saw that I'd be like, I know the authors I
don't think that's what the intent was. So, thank you for being open to the
feedback that you got. And the other thing that I just want to highlight, and
Council Member Villegas mentioned, you know, the timeliness of this release and
I highlighted in our conversations about OSCER that the first action item is this
need for sort of coordinated centralized action. Maybe, Kendra, I don't know if
you wanted to speak to that or Bethany about why you think that's so important in
terms of moving us forward on the very clear guidelines that I think are outlined
in this overall plan.
MS. MORRISON: I think when we looked at how this process worked and what
it required, you know, climate change is in everybody's kuleana. And so, it was a
little bit challenging because we didn't want departments feeling like we were
putting a burden on them with this conversation and having them do one more
thing. And so, we really tried to get in there and look at what they're already
doing and how we can adjust those things to address mitigation and adaptation
efforts. And by doing so, it really highlighted to us the need for that collaborative
body to work amongst the departments because everybody has their priorities and
all of their things that they're already responsible for, and so it's very easy for
them to sort of not be all focused and in alignment towards this effort without
somebody or an agency to really pull those things together and take us through
collaboratively and consistently. But then I'll let Kendra address some of the
specifics on implementation that we put into the plan.
MS. OBERMAIER: Yeah, thank you for the question, Heather. And I just want
to echo everything that Bethany just said. In a couple areas where, like for
example, we see the need for there to be changes in our existing decision -making
processes are also highlighted in the implementation section and could further be
facilitated by, you know, an authority that has the ability to do that kind of
coordination and space holding for departments, and that includes like one, the
Capital Improvement Project review. So, there is some ways in which we can
incorporate climate change already into that process without overburdening
departments. However, that needs some data support and again, space holding.
Again, like additional support. So, that's an easy transition.
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Another is in our Purchasing and Procurement, making sure we're considering,
you know, local purchasing, emissions, et cetera in how we're procuring. Third is
Asset Management. Fourth, Budgeting for Climate Action in our Operating
Budget. Fifth, Grant Management and Applications. Then sixth, we talked about
utilizing the County Auditor Office potentially to help with this. And so are just
six ways in which we could utilize our existing decision -making processes. But
again, to speak to Bethany's point, we don't want to overburden departments and
instead support those existing decision -making processes being better rather than
adding in, you know, like another one that just makes people's lives harder.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, both, for those responses. And I just want to
highlight a couple things that I think are really important and noteworthy, with
respect to your process as you did work very collaboratively with the
departments, have those conversations with them about their ability to implement
and the kind of support that they would need because as you said, they're already
overburdened. We have staff shortages across the county. So, being able to add
these additional tasks is going to require some support. And then secondly, I
appreciate the level of detail. You know, we broadly understand what we need to
do with respect to climate change, adaptation, and mitigation. But drilling down
to the structural elements that are currently barriers to some of those actions I
think is really important because if you don't address those, you're not going to
get the higher level one. So, I appreciate the level of detail.
I'll just conclude by saying, you know, it's so important that we have this done
with respect to some of the other funding opportunities. You already mentioned
the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Reduction grant, but there are other opportunities
that are dependent and contingent on having an ICAP in place. And so, I'm
wholeheartedly supporting the adoption of this today and I encourage my
colleagues to do so as well. Good work. Thank you so much to all of you. I
yield, Chair.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you, Council Member Kimball. Anyone else in Hilo?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Hi, Chair.
CHR. GALIMBA: Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Well done, ladies and Jake. I know that, you
know, Jake, you had initially started working on this before you were my
Legislative Aide as like a vista within R&D, so it's nice that you are back with
this really incredible team of folks who have like put this together. It's very clear.
It's simple. This is our county's guiding light. It's our comprehensive action
plan. What are we going to do to ensure that every decision we make, every
infrastructure project that, you know, we implement is done in a way with climate
change in mind so that we are protecting and preserving environments; ensuring
that our economy is resilient; and that, you know, our people can thrive.
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I don't really have any questions. I'm just curious about I guess one of my
questions is around with OSCER now being an actual office within the County,
do we foresee this plan being implemented by folks that are staffed in that office?
I don't know if anyone can answer that question.
MR. ADAMS: Yes. I'll take that here if I may, Council Member.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MR. ADAMS: I think that we still have some work to do as I think everyone
that's here knows how the OSCER Office and the departments are going to be
working together on the subject matter that the office has responsibility to take on.
This particular document I feel very confident is going to be a part of the
identification in a detailed and nuanced way to help that office as it moves
forward with the efforts to engage the departments, as we move forward in the
number of ways that both Bethany and Kendra talked about in their comments
previously to Council Member Kimball's question.
So, unfortunately I think the initial answer today is we have some work to do to
put the team together both at the Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity, and
Resilience in the Mayor's Office. Then, also be understanding that the primary
departments on working this plus all of the supporting departments, how they're
going to engage with the office that in the Mayor's Office will be a part of our
processes for making sure that we are as consistent as we can be in moving the
plan and the implementation of this plan forward.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. I just want to make sure I understand this. So, right
now R&D is going to basically be the lead in convening partners, different
departments, and implementing this plan. And as OSCER is stood up, we will
make a determination once it's staffed, what aspects of this plan they will be
carrying forward.
MR. ADAMS: Right. I think that it depends on the mitigation or the adaptation
elements that are part of the plan. Planning does have the adaptation elements
and R&D has the mitigation elements. And so, that's kind of the little blurry line
that we kind of work together on figuring out. And as we staff up and as we bring
in an administrator with the idea that the administrator along with the staff will
have something to say about, you know, how these things go forward, particularly
given the idea that they will also be connected to our community. I would think
would be an important aspect of whoever comes in, their ability to bring that into
what we're doing. Those things would be really, really important. So, yes, we're
not going to stop, we're not waiting, we're moving forward with the
implementation elements of the plan. But then we will be bringing in or the office
itself will have its folks come in to figure out, you know, how do we build this
airplane while we're flying it.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Director. That's really helpful. I just want to
make sure I know who to go to if there are ways in which I feel like my office or
any of our offices can contribute in advancing elements of this plan. Like for
instance, I think there's a suggestion around a county -sponsored tree planting
program to kick-off in 2026. I think we can get started a little bit sooner. But I
think it's going to take some of us kind of stepping forward and saying, "you
know what, I want to own this kuleana and it's important to me," and I've kind of
convened all the partners. So, thank you for that.
And I just want to acknowledge that you folks are really working to strengthen the
existing partnerships and community capacity that exists. I see CERT
(Community Emergency Response Team) teams listed here. I see resilience hubs.
I see private sector. I think that's really, really important to acknowledge that
these partnerships are things that we are going to be leaning on to advance this. I
mean, at the end of the day this is a plan for County "big C," but there are ways in
which we are reaching out into the community and collaborating. So again, really
well done and I would appreciate updates when the time is right, around what
kind of training is available for staff.
You know, Council Member Kimball mentioned earlier, we're not asking staff to
do more other than maybe adjusting the way they think and make decisions. I
don't think that can just be like a one -page memo that gets transmitted to
departments, but it has to be some really sort of deep learning and even some, I
don't know, experiential learning if possible, so folks really understand how they
can infuse climate change, mitigation, and adaptation strategies into their
everyday workflow. So, thank you very much for being here. I will be
supporting this plan. Chair, I yield.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Chair, can I?
CHR. GALIMBA: Please do, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair.
CHR. GALIMBA: Just a moment. I wanted to note that Council Member
Lee Loy is in the chambers, here, in West Hawaii. Go ahead.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Mahalo to R&D and for
the folks in front of us today. Appreciate your time and energy on this. Looking
over your working group, you had a nice selection of folks on your working group
including our own Heather Kimball, looks like, and some notable names; Rachel
Solemsaas, Noel Morin, Graceson Ghen. So, good to see some of these folks
participating within the Climate Action Plan Working Group as well as a lot of
County staff.
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One of my questions is the third to last, `Be it Further Resolved," clause, "that
County departments and agencies referenced in the Integrated Climate Action
Plan shall complete the actions and strategies assigned to them and provide
continuous feedback ..." I know it's straightforward but it's also a big task. And
do you feel this document completely outlines every action they're supposed to do
or is this going to be evolving? Yup. Go ahead.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you for that question. As I mentioned, we sat down
with the departments and walked them through each action, also understanding a
timetable they could implement and what the level of effort or cost that associated
with that would be. And then we also thought through the implementation phases
to understand what we can accomplish, you know, five years, ten years, fifteen
years. So, I do think that the framework is there and the roadmap is there to bring
it forward. It's always going to be a question of funding and, you know, how we
prioritize our resources to do that. But, yes, the plan has what it takes to get it
there. Thank you.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Okay. That's a good answer. Thank
you. And then, I mean to me, at this point you guys have brought forth a very
good plan. And we had the public testimony. You know, maybe some good
points in the testimony. I'd rather see it move forward today than hold it and go
back to any kind of comment period. You guys showed a good background on
this resolution and the action plan so far, so I like it.
One thing I did notice in the drought/water infrastructure, and I've been watching
this closely given how many rural subdivisions we have, most of which don't
have access to running water, depend on our water spigots or water trucks for
fillings, especially in droughts. I've been asking DPW (Department of Public
Works), DWS (Department of Water Supply) for some kind of a plan and in
looking through this document I don't know that I saw it. That's why I'm
bringing it up. Is there any mention in this plan to solidify, to harden our
resources when it comes to delivering water, not to every household in these
subdivisions, but in creating a stronger network of filling stations or water spigots
in those subdivisions or outside of those subdivisions so that when we do
experience drought during climate change our rural low income areas have access
to county water so they can live. Is that in this plan?
MS. OBERMAIER: That's a great question. And as you've pointed out, it's not
right just the communities that are able to access county water, it's all
communities. And it's really important that we consider accessibility in times of
drought for everybody. So, we do have in 3133.2, update water use and develop
plan incorporating ecosystem needs and climate change island -wide, and that
would be a DWS project anticipated to start around this year and then really go
into full implementation in 2024. So, when it, you know, focused on the term
island -wide there the anticipation is not that that would just necessarily be, you
know, the homes that are attached to the main water lines. There's also some
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conversation about a water reuse program and then water conservation in public
outreach which includes, you know, structures that are not necessarily like county
water mains.
And then lastly, I want to point to 3B 1.3, which is encouraging private
landowners to increase storage capacity in areas at risk to drought and updating
the plumbing code to include gray infrastructure which would allow homeowners
and new developers to install the latest conservation fixtures. That's one way that
we can encourage private land development in a way that conserves more land
water. There's nothing I think specific to like increasing the capacity of our water
spigots necessarily or like developing a program to take water out to communities
during a time of drought. So, I think that that's an area maybe for further
conversation. But that's the amount that it's addressed in the plan, you know, for
now.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Those are some of the same that I
saw. And as I've watched we've increased density in Puna. It's going to
continue to increase, but I've also noticed that we haven't increased our ability to
provide water to the folks moving into those areas. And if you live on catchment
you're already thinking conservatively, especially when there's no rain. So, it's
our job to make sure there's water.
And what caught my attention in a plan that I saw; not this one, a different plan,
the statement of being able to provide water to those people who are on our
county water system, clean, good, drinking water. Fair enough. But no mention
of ensuring that everyone has access to that water. That's different, yeah. So,
that's why I brought it up. So, good that we're at least referencing it but I would
like to see more delving into that specific area for Districts 3, 4, 5, 6, probably 7,
8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. But overall, you know, I really do appreciate this
and I think everyone is going to lean in on this from Council Members now and
future for our departments. This really does provide a framework for us to build
on and grow by. So, well done. Thank you. I yield, Chair.
CHR. GALIMBA: Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none,
I just had one question and it's pretty granular. So, I apologize, but it's on page 61;
It's the hats and the multi -hazard maps. And just was wondering about the map of
Ocean View and there's a set of lots at the top of Ocean View that is highlighted
and so I wondered what the multi -hazards were for that particular area, within that
larger area. You know, you can get back to me if that's not something you can
answer right now because I know it is very granular. But I'm just very curious
because I wouldn't really think that one little spot in there would be different than
the others.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you for that question, Chair. I think as Kendra had
mentioned, we used the best available data to do this analysis. And so, we were
accessing any type of hazard data and sometimes the scale of that hazard data was
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not necessarily down to a parcel level. So, this one included drought data,
wildfire, riverine flooding, landslide susceptibility, and high windstorms. And so,
when you look at these maps the darker red means that they had, you know,
probably all of those things happening in that area. I'd have to drill into the map a
little bit to understand that particular spot in Ocean View. But that's generally
how the mapping analysis was created.
CHR. GALIMBA: Okay. Thank you. Yeah, and I just wanted to say that I'm
really impressed by this plan. I feel like it really has evolved since the initial
draft. So, I wanted to commend all the folks that worked on it for the huge
amount of work that went into it, and I think it's very clear and it has a lot of
really good ideas that I think we can all get behind and work on. So, I'll also be
supporting it wholeheartedly. And with that, I think we can call for the vote. All
in favor of approving Resolution 203-23 and forwarding to the Council with a
favorable recommendation, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 203-23: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 203-23 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Chair Galimba — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Evans, Inaba, and
Kagiwada — 3.
Excused: None.
CHR. GALIMBA: And with that I believe we've come to the end of our agenda.
Motion to adjourn, anyone?
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ADJOURN- There being not further business, at 9:56 a.m., Ms. Lee Loy moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Kdneali'i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Chair Galimba — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Evans, Inaba, and
Kagiwada — 3.
Excused: None.
CHR. GALIMBA: We are adjourned at 9:56 (a.m.).
Approved:
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Chair
Policy Committee on Climate Resilience
and Regenerative Agriculture
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