HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN COUNCIL 2023-08-02 2022-2024 Hawaii County Council
19th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
August 2, 2023
INVOCATION: Pastor Daniel Tomita of Kinoole Baptist Church gave the morning's invocation.
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Hawaii County Council was called to order at
ORDER: 9:07 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Chair
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Vice Chair
Ms. Cindy Evans, Member(via videoconference from Kona)
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member(came in later)
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
PLEDGE OF The Chair directed the Council to the next order of business, Pledge of
ALLEGIANCE: Allegiance.
(At this time, County Clerk Jon Henricks led the Council in
the Pledge of Allegiance.)
PETITIONS, The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Petitions,
MEMORIALS, Memorials, Certificates of Merit, and Expressions of Condolence.
CERTIFICATES
OF MERIT, AND (Note: At this time:
EXPRESSIONS OF 1) Mr. Inaba presented the August 2023 Haweo Award to Detective Kimo
CONDOLENCE: Keli`ipa`akaua of the Area I Criminal Investigations Section of the Hawaii
Police Department;
2) Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder presented a Certificate of Merit to Solid Waste
Facility Attendant Manny Miguel for his outstanding public service; and
3) Ms. Kierkiewicz presented a Certificate of Merit to Power Mower Operator
William-Jon Ah Yo of the Parks and Recreation Department for his
outstanding public service.)
(Note: A recess was called at the end of each presentation.)
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(Note: At this time, on behalf of the Council, Chair Kimball sent condolences to
family and friends of the individual who was killed by a dog yesterday, and
expressed the Council's commitment to continue to work to address the issue of
dangerous dogs.)
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Janice Palma-Glennie: GOEAC-57 (Comm. 342);
GOEAC-58 (Comm. 343);
GOEAC-59 (Comm. 344);
GOEAC-60 (Comm. 345); and
GOEAC-61 (Comm. 346), in support.
(See Comm. 345.3)
Jon Olson: Res. 204-23 (Comm. 365), comment.
(representing Mainstreet Pahoa)
David Blancett-Maddock: GOEAC-69 (Comm. 354), in opposition.
APPROVAL The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Approval
OF MINUTES: of Minutes.
Vote on Approval Ms. Lee Loy moved to approve the Minutes of June 1,
of Minutes: 2023. Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The minutes of June I"are approved. We're going to take a
few things out of order. We have one quick resolution to address: 213-23.
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
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Res. 213-23: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE NATIONAL OCEANIC
AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION
Allows the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to utilize the County
of Hawai`i's Radio Repeater site at South Point to support its South Point Weather
Radio Communication Network.
Reference: Comm. 383
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 213-23.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. This was waived to
Council to expedite the process. We do have the Director and Corporation
Counsel here. Please go ahead when you're ready, if you want to give us some
background on the resolution and the waiver.
(Note: At this time, Civil Defense Administrator Talmadge Magno and
Deputy Corporation Counsel Dakota Frenz came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
MR. MAGNO: Good morning, Council. Talmadge Magno with Hawaii County
Civil Defense.
MS. FRENZ: Good morning. Deputy Corporation Counsel Cody Frenz.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good morning.
MS. FRENZ: So, as to the waiver, I made that request—thank you for the
consideration to Chair Kimball. So there was a lot of work with NOAA
(National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), going back to sometime last
year in fact. And there were various delays, unfortunately, and NOAA has been
extremely patient with Civil Defense and the County of Hawaii to get this
squared away to where it needs to be today. So that was the reason for the
request. They had been extremely patient. We currently do not have an
agreement in place, and they have equipment there. So it was critical that we get
this expedited, if possible, and that was the basis for my request on the waiver.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Director?
MR. MAGNO: Just acknowledging there has not been a break in their service to
the public as far as weather messaging and emergency messaging. So we just
wanted this to continue.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Chair, I yield to the Council for
further questions.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Any questions?
MS. EVANS: Chair? In Kona.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. Just one question. Do we have other people on our
cell tower? And if so, do we charge other people to put their equipment on our
cell tower? Thank you.
MR. MAGNO: Councilwoman Evans, thanks for the question. I'll offer
clarification to all the Council Members as to our radio system, which we call a
land mobile radio system. These are actually radio towers, not specifically cell
towers. So that's for clarification. So these are radio towers that serve as
repeaters for the County radio system. Our co-locators, which we do have
multiple at the different sites, do pay a fee and is specifically for maintenance of
the sites and the radio system. It is pretty much industry standards that we
co-locate on other sites with the State on government lands or on private lands,
such as this one at South Point on Kamehameha Schools' property.
MS. EVANS: So does the County of Hawaii pay Kamehameha Schools an
annual fee?
MR. MAGNO: Yes. There is a fee for that location.
MS. EVANS: So then we charge any other user of that—so, basically, if no one's
on it, would they be paying a fee to Kamehameha Schools?
MR. MAGNO: No. They pay us for the maintenance of the site, and we pay
Kamehameha Schools for the lease of that property.
MS. EVANS: Okay. So, the way the resolution is written, it says "cell tower,"
but that won't make a difference because you said it's a radio tower. So
(inaudible) the other, nobody's going to make an issue of that?
MR. MAGNO: No. It's, you know, like you say, one way or the other, it's still a
tower.
MS. EVANS: Good. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Chair, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Council Member
Kierkiewicz.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Talmadge, Cody, for being
here, for your patience. I do support this resolution and appreciate when there are
times in which County, State, Federal can sort of collaborate. And this is one of
those ways where we can build good will. Are we charging enough, $1,900 a
year? I want to understand the metric that you guys used to enter into these
agreements and determine what is a fair amount. So that's Question 1.
And then the second question is, this is a ten-year agreement. It's the longest,
most extensive agreement that I've seen come before Council. It's typically, I
think, like three years with options to renew going forward. What makes this case
a little different from others that we've reviewed?
MS. FRENZ: Let me speak first to the—I'll defer to Talmadge as to how those
numbers came about. I wanted to make a correction. We had a couple of
different B-52s get submitted. And the final one submitted, there are incorrect
numbers as to the amounts. So it's a quarterly payment that the County of
Hawaii receives from NOAA. That's $964.77. That actually works out to be
$3,859-and-some-odd cents a year. After ten years, we're looking at the 38,000.
So there was a minor correction that needs your attention,just as to the amounts.
In this case, we actually started off with a much shorter lease with NOAA, and
they came to us saying, "We generally prefer a 20-year lease. At a bare
minimum, could we do a ten-year lease," so that we didn't have to continuously
renew them. There wasn't a risk that it could potentially lapse because there are
so many different lease agreements they have all over the place. So they were the
ones that asked us to consider a longer-term lease agreement. As to the valuation
of those, I'll defer to Talmadge.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Because our B-52 says $1,900 a year. Okay.
MS. FRENZ: Yes, it actually should be $3,859.08. We receive a little bit more
than yeah.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Thank you. I just want to make sure like there is
maintenance that goes into the upkeep of our towers. And so I just want to make
sure that this number reflects all of the work that you guys do to maintain our
systems.
MR. MAGNO: So several things. I don't know if you guys remember earlier this
year, you approved, for contract, a service agreement for our radio tower sites. So
that would be part of the cyclic maintenance to avoid problems out there. Like we
have with South Point where, you know, I've been in Civil Defense seven years,
or six years, and that thing, I'm surprised it stood up those six years. Every
hurricane season, we waited for the next high winds to blow it down. So we've
gotten a new tower there. And, hopefully, the annual service agreement, we'll be
looking at the tower so that we don't get into this problem again.
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And so part of the fee was working through the Police Department, who had the
radio system previously, and the Finance Department as to what the annual
maintenance of the whole system was, and that was calculated. And the per-site
agreement was able to be put together for our co-locators. So it should be
equitable to what we need for maintenance.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. I trust you to make that determination. I just
wanted to ensure that there was a metric in place. And then finally, I don't know
if you mentioned this already, when did this sort of partnership agreement take
place? When did we first get into an agreement with NOAA? Because, they had
an existing one that expired last year. So did they remove their equipment? Did
it just stay? We had no agreement in place? Ooh, liability. Okay. No, seriously,
though. Those are things we have to consider, right?
MR. MAGNO: They've been on that site ever since I've been here. So I guess
for a while. That's part of their
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Can we celebrate the number of years of service you've
had with the County, Talmadge? How long is that?
MR. MAGNO: Seven years.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. All right.
MR. MAGNO: That's after 30 years with the National Park Service. So that's
part of NOAA's mandate to provide weather radio. Plus on that weather radio
service, they'll issue emergency messages as well. And so, like I said earlier,
there has not been a break in service at that site despite not having an active
contract with them, or agreement with them at the site.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. I'm hoping that, as our Director of Finance looks at
our next sort of financial management system, that it does include—maybe this
one does that we have right now; I don't know but like just the contract
management piece so that we're not lapsing. Because, I do have concerns about
what liability we may be absorbing if we have, say, NOAA's equipment, and then
something happens, no contract in place, who's responsible. Right?
MS. FRENZ: I won't bore you with all the details as to how we ended up here,
because there were multiple steps resulting in my request for the waiver to
expedite the process. But they initially wanted to remove their equipment, and
that's why we looked at there was this holding pattern where they were going to
remove the equipment, and we were no longer going to need the lease. And then
they decided they would not, and they wanted to continue. And then this, the rush
to get it all squared away, came in. So that was a piece of the puzzle.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Thank you so much for the additional information,
the clarifications, and working to usher this through so quickly. Chair, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. Council Member
Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. In complete support of it. And
springboarding off of Council Member Kierkiewicz, I think that's where I was,
you know. Where are we on our leases? Are we charging enough? My larger
concern,just from a holistic perspective, is I don't know how we're extrapolating
these numbers to make sure that what we're collecting is actually taking care of
the asset.
I feel like I've been on this long ride with you, Talmadge, for this particular site.
Know some friends over at KS (Kamehameha Schools) and the back-and-forth.
So I'm glad that we're here. But in the future, if we could really kind of think
more globally of how we kind of attack these things, and make sure that we're
providing enough resources over the course of time to make sure. Because, this is
a huge component to our Civil Defense and our readiness, and I would hate for
that to get tangled up in some of this paperwork.
MS. FRENZ: Our contact at NOAA, that is a conversation that we had, trying to
figure out that the current agreed-upon payment per quarter would actually be
appropriate in nine years, for example, not knowing what sort of increases there
may be. So that is a conversation we had. We found it difficult to figure out how
to extrapolate, for example, and figure out what would be appropriate at that time.
He did leave the door open for us to renegotiate at a higher amount if necessary
and appropriate when the time came. So we have had that conversation with
NOAA.
MS. LEE LOY: Absolutely. And if there is, like, offramps within the contracts
that we can go back to them and—Ms. Kierkiewicz just mentioned, I mean, we're
at 14 percent inflation rates right now. So things are going to cost a lot. Thank
you, Chair. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Anyone else? Seeing
none, all those in favor of adopting Resolution 213-23, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 213-23: The motion to adopt Res. 213-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 213-23 is adopted. Thank you both for being here.
At this time, we're going to move to "Reports," and I'm going to go in order of
who I know is present either in person or via Zoom, starting with the nomination
No. 58, Communication 343.
GOEAC-58 NOMINATION OF JOHN D. PELLETIER TO THE KONA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 343): PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee John D. Pelletier came forward to address
the members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-58: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 58. Seconded
Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of John D. Pelletier to the Kona CDP
(Community Development Plan) Action Committee is affirmed.
GOEAC-59 NOMINATION OF GARY JASTER TO THE KONA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 344): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
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(Note: At this time, nominee Gary Jaster came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-59: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 59. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Gary Jaster to the Kona CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
GOEAC-61 NOMINATION OF ZARINE DORABJI TO THE KONA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 346): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee Zarine Dorabji came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-61: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 61. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
GOEAC-64 NOMINATION OF TISHA MAIKUI TO THE HAMAKUA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 349): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
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(Note: At this time, Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i
Bartolome and nominee Tisha Maikui came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-64: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 64. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
(Council Members spoke in favor of the appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Tisha Mahealani Maikui is approved.
GOEAC-57 NOMINATION OF HEATHER KOROTIE TO THE KONA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 342): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee Heather Korotie came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-57: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 57. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Heather Korotie to the Kona CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
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GOEAC-60 NOMINATION OF NANCY PISICCHIO TO THE KONA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 345): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee Nancy Pisicchio came forward to address
the members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-60: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 60. Seconded by
Ms. Villegas and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
(Council Members spoke in favor of the appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Nancy Pisicchio to the Kona CDP Action
Committee is affirmed. Let's just keep going in order. We do have other people
waiting, but I think at this point, we might as well just push through.
GOEAC-62 NOMINATION OF RICHARD BIDLEMAN TO THE HAMAKUA
(Comm. 347): COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
Vote on GOEAC-62: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 62. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Richard Bidleman is affirmed.
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GOEAC-63 NOMINATION OF DAVID MEYER TO THE HAMAKUA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 348): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
Vote on GOEAC-63: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 63. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of David Meyer to the Hamakua CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
GOEAC-65 NOMINATION OF GREGORY HENKEL TO THE PUNA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 350): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
Vote on GOEAC-65: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 65. Seconded by
Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
(Council Member Lee Loy spoke in favor of the appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Gregory Henkel to the Puna CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
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GOEAC-66 NOMINATION OF JENNIFER SCHEFFEL TO THE PUNA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 351): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee Jennifer Scheffel came forward to address
the members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-66: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 66. Seconded by
Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Jennifer Scheffel to the Puna CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
GOEAC-67 NOMINATION OF MARTHA MORISHIGE TO THE PUNA COMMUNITY
(Comm. 352): DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACTION COMMITTEE
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 10, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, Executive Assistant to the Mayor Pomaika`i
Bartolome and nominee Martha Morishige came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Vote on GOEAC-67: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 67. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
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(Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder spoke in favor of the appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Martha Morishige to the Puna CDP Action
Committee is affirmed.
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public.
PUBLIC ON
GOEAC-68 The following individual registered to speak and came forward when called by
(COMM. 353): the Chair:
David Blancett-Maddock: In opposition.
GOEAC-68 NOMINATION OF JASON EISERT TO THE TAX BOARD OF REVIEW
(Comm. 353):
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 12, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
(Note: At this time, nominee Jason Eisert came forward to address the
members of the Council.)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
External Affairs Committee Report No. 68. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. I'd be remiss if I didn't
give credit to Mr. David Blancett-Maddock because, as far as I remember, his
background is both in government and I believe accounting within different
municipalities across the United States, maybe just a few, but I'm going from
memory. Given his testimony and, Mr. Blancett-Maddock, I'm more in the mode
to confirm the nominations because we need the Tax Board of Review, but your
testimony was concerning on a few levels. I'm going to ask, actually, of
Corporation Counsel to kind of clarify what I just heard from Mr. Blancett-
Maddock. He is currently on the Tax Board of Review. Is that right? His wife is.
Okay. So, with that, I'm just looking for some clarity on what he's saying and
what our process is, and ensuring that we are following proper process.
CHR. KIMBALL: I'm going to ask Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and
Judge Strance to keep this sort of sideline communication to a minimum, as it is
not pertinent to the matter on the table except in the slight capacity. So if you can
just keep the comments brief. This conversation about the testimony is probably
not appropriate under the item that's on the table currently. So, Judge Strance, if
you could briefly respond to my colleagues' comments.
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(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Elizabeth Strance came forward
to address the members of the Council.)
MS. STRANCE: Thank you. Elizabeth Strance, Corporation Counsel. Just a
couple of things. The Tax Board of Review is designed to review disputes. And
so when the Department of Finance settles a case, or in many cases the cases are
withdrawn, they no longer become disputes.
To place in context some of the remarks that were made, you folks received an
annual report from the Tax Board of Review. One of the comments made was a
specific reference to the appreciation to the Administration in settling 63 percent
of the cases. So the board specifically recognized and appreciated the work of the
department in settling cases.
There is a recommendation about"board review." That's a very different role
than "board approval" of settlements. Just to give the nominees to this position
some context, the importance of this board is, as Council Member Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder mentioned is important, it's a board that goes and has a fairly
extensive training before it starts its work.
The issues that are raised in the report, such as having information about
settlements, my understanding is that the practice will be that, going forward, in
light of the request in the report, that the board will be provided with information
about settlements so that the board will have that available. The practice
implemented by this County is consistent with the other counties in the State. So
the tax board of reviews is something that is called for in the Hawaii Revised
Statutes. So each county has their own tax board review. Our practices are
consistent with the other counties statewide.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Judge Strance. I'll pass it back to you, Council
Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, although let's stay on the subject of this particular
nomination. And I would recommend a communication around a presentation
regarding the Tax Board of Review from RPT (Real Property Tax) if you want to
dig deeper into the comments from the testifier today.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, mahalo, Chair, given that I still have
the floor. With these Tax Board of Review nominations in front of us, from my
understanding then, and given your comments and some of those by the testifier,
"board approval"versus "board review,"these are covered in our Code, correct?
And the process by which they are reviewingI heard "review" and I heard
"approval."
MS. STRANCE: The Code is silent as to settled cases. What the Code
specifically states is that the board will resolve disputes. When there's no longer
a dispute, there is no reason for a case to proceed to the board.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And in your eyes, we are following
our Code.
MS. STRANCE: Yes. I've reviewed this matter and I concur with the practice
that's being followed.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you, Ms. Strance. I will
follow up with Mr. Blancett-Maddock off the line,just to discuss and get a feel
for where they sit, especially given some of the recommendations that sounds like
we may be following. But more so for my own information. And I think this is
important—and I can hear the murmuring going on this is important for our
members being nominated to the Tax Board of Review to fully understand what
you're walking into and the importance of what you are being nominated to in
your committee role. So, Ms. Chair, I do appreciate the leeway. Ms. Strance,
thank you very much for the information. I yield, Chair.
Vote on GOEAC-68: The motion to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 68 was carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba– 1.
Excused: None.
(Council Members Evans and Kierkiewicz spoke in favor of the appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Jason Eisert to the Tax Board of Review is
confirmed.
GOEAC-69 NOMINATION OF KURT E. SULLIVAN TO THE TAX BOARD OF REVIEW
(Comm. 354):
Requires Council
Confirmation by: August 12, 2023 (Section 13-4(k),
Hawaii County Charter)
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Vote on GOEAC-69: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Governmental Operations and
(Adopted) External Affairs Committee Report No. 69. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
(During Council deliberation of GOEAC-68, Council Member Kierkiewicz spoke
in favor of Mr. Sullivan's appointment.)
CHR. KIMBALL: The nomination of Kurt E. Sullivan is confirmed. With that,
we'll return to the top of the agenda, please.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Council to return to the order of business.
of Business:
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Order of
RESOLUTIONS: Resolutions.
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Res. 201-23: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT
Allows for the receipt of$10 million which would be used to support the planning,
design, and construction cost of the Kukuiola Assessment Center and Emergency
Shelter in North Kona.
Reference: Comm. 358
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-56
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 201-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 56. Seconded by
Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. We did have extensive
discussion with Sharon Hirota at our last meeting at Committee level. Look
forward to everyone's support.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Any other discussion? Seeing
none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 201-23: The motion to adopt Res. 201-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 56 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 201-23 is adopted. At this time, at the request of
some of my colleagues, we're going to take a quick five-minute break. So we
will return at 11:20. Thank you.
Recess: At 11:15 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 11:21 a.m.
Res. 202-23: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD OF $200,000
FROM HAWAII COMMUNITY FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT FINANCIAL
EMPOWERMENT SERVICES
Funds would be used to support no-cost financial and homeownership counseling
provided by the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Reference: Comm. 359
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-57
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 202-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 57. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Given our discussion at Committee level, I
look forward to everyone's support. And I do appreciate Ms. Hirota's efforts to
make these last two resolutions happen and get it in front of us. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any additional discussion? All those in favor,
please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 202-23: The motion to adopt Res. 202-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 57 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 202-23 is adopted.
Res. 203-23: ADOPTS THE 2023 INTEGRATED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AS THE
COUNTY'S OFFICIAL STRATEGIC PLAN TO ACHIEVE ITS EMISSIONS
MITIGATION AND CLIMATE ADAPTATION GOALS AND TARGETS
Seeks to mitigate the County's greenhouse gas emissions and reinforce County
assets, services, and infrastructure to adapt to the impacts and hazards of climate
change.
Reference: Comm. 361
Intr. by: Ms. Galimba(B/R)
Approve: PCCRRA-1
Motion to Approve: Ms. Galimba moved to adopt Res. 203-23 and Policy
Committee on Climate Resilience and Regenerative
Agriculture Report No. 1. Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Chair. I urge my colleagues to join me in
approving Resolution 203-23 and thank the Department of Research and
Development for their work on this important plan. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Any other discussion? Council
Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. I wasn't here so thank you for advancing this. But
also just creating a document that when they grab the resolution, everything's
attached. I really like that that's what we do now as a body. Oftentimes, there's
policy but the documentation that they're pointing to is housed somewhere else.
So thank you so much for this great work. I will be in support. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Any additional
discussion? I just want to quickly acknowledge the Planning Department as well,
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who was in partnership with R&D (Research and Development) to develop the
Climate Action Plan. And with that, we'll take the vote. All those in favor please
say "aye."
Vote on Res. 203-23: The motion to adopt Res. 203-23 and Policy Committee on
(Adopted) Climate Resilience and Regenerative Agriculture Report
No. 1 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 203-23 is adopted.
Res. 204-23: STRONGLY URGES THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE TO EXPAND
POST OFFICE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DISTRICT OF PUNA, HAWAII
Reference: Comm. 365
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
Approve: GOEAC-70
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 204-23 and
Governmental Operations and External Affairs Committee
Report No. 70. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Just for the members'
information, some of whom were not here last time, this really comes on behalf of
the community requesting, for a long period of time, that this be addressed, given
the increase in population, the expansion of our district. I mean, everything
across the board really screams we need help. I've had a number of people reach
out to me about this.
Again perusing social media, what caught my attention was people saying, "Oh,
this doesn't mention Mountain View," and I've been trying to catch up with those
comments. But it's more this is meant for the entire district of Puna, which really
does cover, from my eyes and many other people's eyes, Glenwood to Pahoa. I
mean, really all the way to Kalapana, if you will. This covers the entire district,
and it's important to point out that this is aimed at all of our post offices and
facilities in the District of Puna, Volcano, Mountain View, I mean across our
district of both representative Kierkiewicz and myself.
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And then much to my chagrin, yesterday, as I was reading over—again perusing
social medial came across that the U.S. (United States) Postal Service is
considering relocation of the Kailua-Kona retail operations. And I point this out
because I found their facility to be adequate. Maybe it could be better. But if this
is purely based on census data, given Puna is about one-third of the population of
Hawaii Island, I really do have concerns that we're catching the short end of the
stick in our district. And I'm pointing this out both for anyone watching, but for
our district to know that we are watching, and that the purpose of this resolution
could not be more straightforward than asking for help in our area. So I look
forward to everyone's support, and hopefully, we'll see some movement from our
Federal representatives, who I've spoken to about this. This definitely sends a
clear message. Thank you very much. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Anyone
else? Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. EVANS: Chair? Kona.
CHR. KIMBALL: I'll come to you in a second. Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair. Thank you for bringing this forward. I'll
be supporting. I've talked to several people that live in the Puna area, and this is a
huge frustration. I know there are lots of people that work in this building that
live down in Puna, and they experience these issues around not being able to get
their mail and services. So I'll be completely supporting this. Thank you for
bringing it forward. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Council
Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: I'm in strong support of this and really want to thank the
introducer—Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—for doing this. And it really
brings forth I'm going to think about this, Waikoloa who is growing rapidly
does not have an adequate post office. So this is a bigger issue probably in other
areas on our island, but thank you to the introducer. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Council
Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: I also wanted to thank Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
because it is inspiration, and Ocean View desperately needs post office
infrastructure. So thank you for the inspiration.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Anyone else?
Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I've got to mention something else too. I
was thinking about this yesterday on my way home. I was reading through our
Broadband Hui group and some of the online data that they present. In most
cases, Puna, Districts 4 and 5 specifically and in some cases District 6, and
District 1 actually, both either underserved or unserved, the highest amount of
ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed), Native Hawaiian
populations. We don't get mail in Puna. You have to have a post office box to go
get it.
And if you can't get that at your house and you don't have access to, sorry, you're
not connected, you don't have connectivity, you don't have broadband, in what
other form or way do people have to access critical information, especially our
kupuna or our folks who are disadvantaged? So,when we don't have access to
mail and you don't have access to the internet, how else are you supposed to vote?
How else are you supposed to pay your bills, get medical attention and care?
Through your mail system.
This is a critical need for Puna, and I'm really frustrated that we're not considered
in need because our population doesn't grant that need. It really is frustrating to
me. Usually, I don't make such comments, but in this case, I feel very adamantly
about this. So I look forward to everyone's support. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. All right, all those in favor of
adopting Resolution 204-23, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 204-23: The motion to adopt Res. 204-23 and Governmental
(Adopted) Operations and External Affairs Committee Report No. 70
was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 204-23 is adopted.
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Res. 214-23: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR AND
OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE FOR
ONE MULTI-FUNCTION COPY MACHINE FOR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an approximate
monthly cost of$174, to be used by the department's Community Engagement
Division in Hilo.
Reference: Comm. 384
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Waived: FC
Vote on Res. 214-23: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 214-23.
(Adopted) Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Resolution 214-23 is adopted.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Bills for
ORDINANCES Ordinances (First Reading).
(FIRST READING):
Bill 53: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Appropriates revenues in the Federal Housing and Urban Development—
Community Project Funding Kukuiola account($10,000,000); and appropriates the
same to the following Housing and Urban Development—Community Project
Funding Kukuiola programs: Program account($9,500,000) and Administration
account($500,000). Funds would be used to support the planning, design, and
construction cost of the Kukuiola Assessment Center and Emergency Shelter in
North Kona.
Reference: Comm. 358
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-58
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Vote on Bill 53: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 53 on first
(Approved) reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 58.
Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 53 is approved for first reading.
Bill 54: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Appropriates revenues in the Hawaii Community Foundation—Financial
Empowerment Services (Private) account($200,000); and appropriates the same to
the Hawaii Community Foundation—Financial Empowerment Services —Program
account. Funds would be used to support no-cost financial and homeownership
counseling provided by the United States Department of Housing and Urban
Development.
Reference: Comm. 359
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-59
Vote on Bill 54: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 54 on first
(Approved) reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 59.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 54 is approved at first reading.
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Bill 55: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Increases revenues in Federal Grants —High Intensity Impact Grant account
($27,100); and appropriates the same to the High Intensity Impact Grant account.
These additional funds would be used by the Hawaii Police Department for
overtime, travel, training, services, and equipment needed for operations to
investigate drug related cases.
Reference: Comm. 360
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-60
Vote on Bill 55: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 55 on first
(Approved) reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 60.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 55 is approved at first reading.
Bill 56: AMENDS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 47, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983
(2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO THE APPROPRIATION OF
DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS FOR DAMAGES, LOSSES, AND SUFFERING
CAUSED BY THE 2018 KILAUEA ERUPTION
To establish standards for the appropriation of disaster relief funds that the County
received, or may receive, for the purpose of providing relief, recovery, mitigation,
and long-term resilience for disaster damages, losses, and suffering caused by the
2018 Kilauea eruption.
Reference: Comm. 362
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz
Approve: GOEAC-71
(Note: Communication Nos. 362.1 through 362.3,transmitting proposed
amendments to Bill 56, were circulated.)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to pass Bill 56 on first reading and
adopt Governmental Operations and External Affairs
Committee Report No. 71. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, if it's okay with you, I just wanted to give a high
level overview once again because a couple of our colleagues, Council
Members Evans and Kagiwada weren't here, and they also weren't here when we
experienced the eruption and were beginning with recovery. Thank you for that.
So, Council Members Kagiwada and Evans, our County was very grateful to
receive $60 million from the Hawaii State Legislature in 2019, following the
aftermath of the Kilauea eruption. Forty million dollars is a loan and is intended
for the County to use as matching funds for Federal grants that we have received
to restore infrastructure like roads, water systems, and parks. Twenty million is
kind of unheard of. It was flexible funding for the County to essentially do what
it needs to do to support community members, organizations in their journey
towards recovery and resilience.
One of the ways in which we are able to unlock those funds so that more of our
community partners, who we rely on and work with to implement recovery
initiatives because recovery is a kakou thing, one of the programs we developed
was a Kilauea Recovery Grant Program. And that allows nonprofits to access
funding up to $500,000 to be able to initiate and implement projects.
We, as in the County and recovery team, which is responsible for administering
this program in partnership with Finance, were able to run an initial application
round in 2020 where 18 applicants were awarded, 17 accepted and were able to
move forward on their projects, and a little over $3.5 million was provided to our
community partners. In order to grant additional funds to community members,
updates to the ordinance we had originally introduced were required; hence,
Bill 56 was put forward after really great discussion and comments from my
colleagues.
And I appreciate everybody's willingness to move this to Council, although we do
have a couple of amendments, which I wanted to go over and address now. The
first is related to the definition of long-term resilience and wanting that to be
aligned with what this Council adopted earlier this year related to OSCER, the
Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity, and Resilience.
Motion to Amend: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to amend Bill 56 with the contents
of Comm. 362.1. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I'll note that the OSCER definition talked
about resilience meaning the ability to withstand social, environmental, economic
shocks and stressors with minimal human, environmental, and economic costs,
risks, and damages. I wanted to leave in language that we had there related to
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adapting to changing conditions and encouraging folks to prepare and rapidly
recover from. So it's an amalgamation of what we currently have and what is
contained in OSCER, which I think is very specific and important for us to be
recognizing as we move our community toward a more resilient space. Happy to
answer any questions folks might have about this.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. On the amendment. Council Member Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I appreciate the effort. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Anyone else? I'll just note that I appreciate you taking this
into account. I think this is perfectly logical in terms of, you know, in OSCER
we're defining resilience here. We're defining long-term resilience. So there is
this relationship, but I think that you nailed it. So thank you for this. I'm happy
to support the amendment. All right, all those in favor of amending Bill 56 with
the contents of Communication 362.1, please say "aye."
Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Bill 56 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 362.1 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. The next amendment is related to
eligibility. There were some discussions at the Council level around who would
be able to access these funds. And I also have our recovery officer here joining
us, Douglas Nam Le, and do want to call him forward to provide additional
context or answer questions folks might have. So, in order to start discussion, I'll
introduce the amendment.
Motion to Amend: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to amend Bill 56 with the contents
of Comm. 362.3. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. There have been concerns raised by
community partners about where this money can go. And so we wanted to quell
any fears about this money going outside of the impacted region, so we're very
specific to identify the communities that would be benefiting in Lower Puna, as
they were most intensely impacted by the eruption.
One of the things that we also wanted to ensure was explicitly clear, right. It's not
just the intention of the bill, but having the words to back up that intention and
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ensuring that folks who were impacted who may be serving the Lower Puna
community but might not be located in Lower Puna are eligible. And so that is
what this additional bullet here will do, is identify that nonprofit organizations
who were directly impacted by the 2018 eruption would be eligible to access
funds. I do want to turn it over to Douglas to see if he has anything else to add.
Thanks, Douglas, for being here.
(Note: At this time, Disaster Recovery Officer Douglas Le, Planning
Department, came forward to address the members of the Council.)
MR. LE: Good morning. Douglas Nam Le, Disaster Recovery Officer with the
County. I'm here to ask for your support to this amendment. I appreciate your
support for the bill as a whole. Council Member Kierkiewicz spoke to a lot of the
intention and the impact that these funds really need to be focused on.
As anyone can imagine, after the 2018 eruption, families, farms, businesses,
nonprofit organizations were just disrupted in so many ways that one cannot have
ever experienced prior. And so we really want to hone in kind of on the impact of
these grant dollars to those farms and businesses and families and individuals who
were directly impacted. I feel like these amendments, as presented, do that. And
so I'm really seeking your support. And from our program side, we also feel that
they're practical, and we can make them work in the administration of the grant
funds.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Douglas. Here to answer any questions folks
might have. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any questions on the amendment? Council
Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair. Just so I understand this clearly, with the
amendment it is one and two, and then it says "or." Is that correct?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, if I may?
CHR. KIMBALL: Go ahead, Council Member.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yes, that is correct. So an eligible organization must meet
No. 1, and they must either have been directly impacted or are a nonprofit
providing services in the Lower Puna community. It's not both. It's either one of
them
MS. KAGIWADA: Services to the Lower
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yes, correct.
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MS. KAGIWADA: Not in. Okay. Got it. Okay, so yeah. So I was just
doublechecking because I was thinking there might be nonprofits that kind of
arose after this that jumped in to help but might not have already been in
existence, but it looks like it could meet the second one. All right, thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada.
MR. HENRICKS: Madam Chair? I'm over here. Just from a technical or
grammatical standpoint, I think it might be helpful if the Council amended this
communication to remove the semicolon that appears after "Kilauea" so that it
becomes a clean sentence that reads from beginning to end. I think that might
help. And then you can kind of imagine what it would look like when it would be
codified. I don't think that semicolon's needed, and it could be problematic.
CHR. KIMBALL: I would concur with that. Is that a motion we can make on the
floor? Can we amend the amendment to remove the semicolon?
MR. HENRICKS: Sure, because this is in writing now. And if you're
comfortable doing that, that is clear, and I would appreciate that.
Vote on Motion to Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to amend Comm. 362.3 by
Amend: removing the semicolon from Section 2-250(a)(2) after the
(Approved) word "Kilauea." Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba– 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The amendment contained in Communication 362.3 is
amended by the removal of the semicolon. Back to the main amendment.
Ms. Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Clerk, for beingI'm going to follow him and be
very picky on this in a very minor way, but just reading it grammatically, I do
think we need to have another verb in front of"service," or turn "service" into a
verb. I mean, I get the point but—"provide service" or "that service,"yeah.
Because, it's "demonstrate the following" and then we just—there's evidence that
the "nonprofit was directly impacted" or "provides service." It just needs a verb.
CHR. KIMBALL: To the comment of my colleague, the appropriate thing here
would be to do a further amendment on the amendment, but actually "service" is a
verb. And so I actually think it is okay. It's a little stilted but, yes, I service
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MS. GALIMBA: You would have to take out the"to"then.
MS. KAGIWADA: Take out"to"then.
MS. GALIMBA: Yeah. Sorry I'm picky but it is Code, so we have to kind of be
picky.
CHR. KIMBALL: Would the introducer of the amendment—?
MR. HENRICKS: I would just make a recommendation. Since we've already
amended this one time verbally,perhaps just maybe taking another look at second
reading, maybe trying to shore that up.
CHR. KIMBALL: I concur. I'll let the introducer kind of figure out what is best
to say there. So we'll leave this as is, and then you can tweak it.
MR. HENRICKS: It will look a little cleaner too
CHR. KIMBALL: I think so, yeah.
MR. HENRICKS: With another piece of paper.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yeah, agreed. We're still on the amendment. Any discussion
on the amendment?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: If we can move forward with what is presented here, I
think why it just seems a little off is that both the evidence paragraph and the
service paragraph are not combined. And so because Council Member Galimba
was able to read it all together, she kind of honed in on perhaps we need to have
the word "provides"there. We will work with LRB (Legislative Research
Branch) to kind of clean that up and have something that works grammatically,
and makes sense to this body and those implementing the legislation. Thank you,
Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any other comments on the amendment? I would
just like to make one, and maybe the best thing is to have you respond for the
legislative record, is how will you define "directly impacted"? Directly impacted
is somewhat subjective, and I can see people that would maybe be useful to
support that are maybe indirectly affected. So is there a standardized measure, if
you will, of how you are saying that an organization is directly affected? Or
directly impacted, apologies.
MR. LE: Chair, I think that it is a relevant and thoughtful question; I've got to
think on it, though. In my role, I work very closely with individuals, with groups.
So I maybe sort of take for granted a critical definition of what"directly" means.
But to kind of help answer the question, one way we would implement this
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provision of the Code in the program, if it is adopted as written, we really look at
these eligibility questions as kind of screening questions on the application form
itself. So not so much, "Were you directly impacted? Yes/No,"but more so in
the application process, really, so that the program staff reviewing the
applications can make an informed decision to ask the applicant to describe in
what ways they were directly impacted.
I know that that approach in terms of how this could be implemented does not
directly address the question you raise in terms of how one would define
"directly." But if you were to kind of ask me right now, for the record it would be
kind of those individuals, families, businesses, and organizations that experienced
isolation or displacement as a result of the lava flow inundation. Those that may
have had to have sought temporary housing from where they are, and were able to
return after the conclusion of the eruption when it was safe to return. I often go to
those places in terms of understanding who is directly impacted.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. I don't know if you want to make any additional
comments, Council Member Kierkiewicz. The reason it kind of came to mind
was because of how kind of little of these funds have been used to date. And
while I recognize you're trying to contain this to who really should receive this, I
just wonder if there's a possibility of folks that indirectly were impacted, that they
could be eligible too. Anyway, take some time to think on it before second
reading. But I think this idea of being directly impacted like yes, we've done
with other grants, you know, the more clarity we can provide to potential
applicant organizations up front, the better. But did you have any idea in your
mind about what"directly impacted"would mean?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I don't know if it's appropriate to use actual names of
organizations in this situation, but I will just so that folks have a sense of what it
means to be directly impacted. Kua O Ka U. Right? They were at Pu`ala`a.
They lost their entire campus, and this charter school has absolutely no resource
support coming from the stateside. That is what I would define as an organization
that was directly impacted by the eruption.
I also think of the number of orchid and anthurium and other flower growers in
the area who, some of them, to their credit, are kupuna and still have decided,
"You know what? I'm committed to being a farmer, and I'm going to continue
this work and support the Lower Puna community,"but they may not be operating
within Lower Puna. They were directly impacted.
We can find ways to more generally describe what that means, but that is the
spirit and intention of what comes to mind for me when I think of an organization
that was directly impacted. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Great. Thank you. I appreciate the examples because I think
that will make the legislative record more complete. Council Member Lee Loy.
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MS. LEE LOY: Just adding to the conversation. I had the privilege and honor to
work with Ms. Kierkiewicz at the State Legislature to secure a lot of these funds.
Just to put it point blankly, it is exactly to go back to the businesses and people
who were displaced. That's the long and short of it.
And I can actually support very crystal clear language for programs and
nonprofits and farmers of what it was like in 2018, and coming back with this
incredible gift with a promise that we're going to help. And I also believe that
they held onto that promise, which is why they kept sticking it out; and we did all
the community interaction and the stakeholder engagement, helped push for
reestablishing the road.
I have absolutely no problem if Ms. Kierkiewicz defines very clearly who these
funds were intended to help. That's where I stand. I look forward to the next
iteration, and ready to support this bill moving forward. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. We're still on the
amendment. Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I think this ties into the amendment. The
question is, Section 2-250, at our previous discussion I asked the question, "Who
is eligible for this,"but it looks like this has been amended to say, "eligible
nonprofit organizations,"which is in addition, as I'm looking at this bill in front
of me. And this isn't pertinent to the amendment—fine, it does tie into the
amendment because it's part of the same section. I can wait on the question or we
can
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, to clarify your
question, you think that(a)(1) nonprofit was not in there in the previous draft of
the bill? Is that what you're pointing at?
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: As I remember in our previous
discussions—are we in recess?
MR. HENRICKS: Yeah.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay.
MR. HENRICKS: We just got word that Kona disconnected. So we could take a
recess. I think they're going to be okay to be able to log back on to continue the
meeting in time, but I don't think—Ms. Evans is not there. Just a brief recess.
CHR. KIMBALL: Okay. We'll take a five-minute recess, till noon?
MR. HENRICKS: Yeah. Thank you.
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CHR. KIMBALL: All right, thank you.
Recess: At 11:54 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 12:00 p.m.
CHR. KIMBALL: We are still on the amendment contained in
(Communication) 362.3 to Bill 56. Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, you
have the floor.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. I yield. I was looking at the
wrong thing. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. All right, any further discussion on the
amendment?
MS. EVANS: Chair?
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Right before we lost, kind of a power surge, and we lost that
conversation kind of in the middle, we were on that discussion about who might
be eligible for the grants, depending on who's impacted. And I'm just curious
because there was a statement that there was a loan, about$40 million—was it a
loan?—and it was from the State government. And would that not have the
language or the conditions of, like what we were talking about, like who might be
impacted, would that give us the direction that we need so we wouldn't have to
put anything in Code or in legislation?
MR. LE: Council Member Evans, I think that's a helpful suggestion. When the
Legislature did provide the $20 million grant and the $40 million loan, there are
Committee reports and other kinds of legislative records where they also took
time to spell out what kind of direct impact of these funds should be. So we can
revisit that in terms of preparing any amendment for the second reading, from
what I understand.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. Thank you, Chair, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Anyone else on the
amendment? All right, seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Bill 56 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 362.3, as amended, was carried by the following
(Approved) voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
and Chair Kimball —7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Members Inaba and Villegas —2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 56 is amended with the contents of
Communication 362.3. Back to the main motion. Council Member Kierkiewicz,
you have the floor.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I just wanted to say a few more things as we
wrap this up. There was mention of 20 million being available as a grant to our
County. Some of that's already been spent through this initial program. We've
earmarked some for a second round. Money has also been used to support a Puna
Strong grants program, which is building the capacity of nonprofits in Puna and
getting them to work more regionally. And that is being used as inspiration for
other work that's happening around the County.
As much as I would love to just write checks all day long to support our
community partners, I also know that would be irresponsible of us to do. We
have committed to restoring critical infrastructure like roads and water systems.
It's very possible that the money that we have received from the State and Federal
Governments may not be enough. So some of this 20 million may be positioned
to ensure that we can follow through on our commitment to restore that
infrastructure. So that's Comment 1.
The second comment. There was testimony around what it means to support
economic development and how that's tied to long-term resilience. We don't
have, like, corporate America in Pahoa. Cruise through Pahoa; it's like any
downtown around the island. It's charming. These are mom-and-pop shops.
These are small businesses I think that would be really grateful for some kind of
support from a nonprofit or an intermediary that is able to provide advice and
resources on how to write a business plan, or scale up their business. Provide
them with market opportunities and even access to non-diluted capital. So that is
the intention. It is absolutely to support local businesses. Again, there needs to
be a nonprofit intermediary to deliver these programs, but we were very
intentional in wanting to honor what our community was saying. And they need
support with economic development.
Finally, supporting this bill helps to bring my community a bit closer to closure.
This has been a very rocky and tenuous and frustrating time for so many folks.
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Not everybody has fully recovered. They are still recovering. But these grant
funds help to make folks and organizations a little bit more whole. So thank you,
everyone, for your really great comments and suggestions, and I look forward to
everyone's continued support on this bill. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 56, as amended. Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Just one question or maybe a comment.
This really does shift the whole funding source to nonprofits, which isn't a bad
thing. But if we're talking about farmers or individual businesses that were
affected by the eruption, they're no longer eligible to apply for these funds, unless
under a nonprofit. Correct?
MR. LE: Correct. So, similar to other grant programs that the County
administers and how we implemented the first year of funds, not-for-profit
organizations with 501(c)(3)tax-exempt status are those that are eligible
applicants. For the private communities, like many associations, are organized
under 501(c)(4)-type entities, which aren't otherwise eligible. And so we would
really—we're also trying the administration of the program to identify
organizations that do have 501(c)(3) status. So folks who do not and are looking
to apply towards their projects for recovery are able to connect with people who
could support their projects.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And just really making that very
clear, this is being designed solely for nonprofits. Again, not a bad thing. I just
want everyone to understand that as we pass this bill. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Let me see if there's anybody else before I go
back to you, Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. And to respond to that, this is not new.
This eligibility of 501(c)(3) nonprofits being eligible to access these funds is not
new. This has been the way that the program has been operated. There have been
a number of organizations, like Malama O Puna, like Pahoa Lava Zone Museum,
that have served as a fiscal sponsor because we just don't have enough (c)(3)
organizations in the area that understand Puna's issues and are in a position to be
able to support groups in this capacity.
So, yes, nonprofits are the entities that must apply because they have all of the
internal controls and guardrails in place to be able to monitor money going out the
door, and report accordingly to the County government. So this was just a way to
ensure—and we've made it very clear in the Code: nonprofits, and also ensuring
that entities, grassroots groups, are eligible. Again, they need to be working with
a nonprofit 501(c)(3). Thank you, Chair.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Anyone else? All right, seeing
none, all those in favor of adopting Bill 56, as amended at first reading,please say
Ic aye.
Vote on Bill 56: The motion to pass Bill 56, as amended to Draft 2, on first
Draft 2 reading and adopt Governmental Operations and External
(Approved) Affairs Committee Report No. 71 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
and Chair Kimball —7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Members Inaba and Villegas —2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Bill 56 is approved at first reading, as amended. At the
request of the author, we're going to skip Bill 51 for right now and move to 57.
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
Bill 57: AMENDS CHAPTER 19, ARTICLES 1 AND 7, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY
CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO
NONDEDICATED AGRICULTURAL USE ASSESSMENTS
Seeks to implement recommendations of the Real Property Tax Review Working
Group and Agricultural Committee's September 2019 Final Report and the
2021 Annual Report of the Real Property Tax Board of Review by establishing a
sunset date for the definition of"Nondedicated agricultural use assessment" and for
Section 19-57 of the Hawaii County Code.
Reference: Comm. 369
Intr. by: Ms. Kimball and Ms. Galimba
First Reading: July 26, 2023
Relinquish Chair: At this time, Chair Kimball relinquished the chair to Acting
Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kimball moved to pass Bill 57 on second and final
reading. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
ACTING CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Kimball, go
ahead.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you. So, for the folks that were not here last week, what
we decided to do is split the two components of Bill 44 into its individual actions.
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So Bill 57 is the bill that contains the sunset language around the nondedicated ag
program. The language is identical to what was in Bill 44. And then Bill 58 is
the portion of Bill 44 that created the food sustainability program. We thought it
would be better to deliberate those independently. And I think—did we pass
Bill-43 has passed. I can't remember if it was last week or the week before
it's all a blur. At any rate, Bill 43 has passed.
So we have created that short-term dedicated program, and I think there was
potentially some confusion out there that that had not happened. But I wanted to
make sure the record was clear that 43 has passed. So some of the folks that are
in the nondedicated ag program that would be sunsetted through Bill 57, that
would be the best pathway for them because they would essentially be taxed at the
same rate they currently are under the nondedicated program. With that I yield,
Chair, for discussion.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Sorry. Thank
you, Council Member Kimball. Okay, seeing no further discussion
MS. EVANS: Chair? In Kona.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council
Member Evans, go ahead.
MS. EVANS: Thank you for that explanation. I'm just wondering, is it normal to
do second—so we're doing this at second and final reading? Or this is second
reading, and then it's time for the community and the public to have another
couple weeks to look at what we're doing? I just think even this was a lot for
people to take in, and the agricultural community, I know they're really busy in
what they do. And so would it be good to have it as second reading, and then
we'll have final reading in a couple weeks? I don't know. Since I've been here
as a Council Member, it seems we do a lot of second and final reading at the same
time, and I'm not used to that. So I'm just—any input from you on this needing
to be second and final reading? Or is this just second reading?
MS. KIMBALL: If I may? Just so you're clear, we had a first reading on these
two bills last week. We did expedite it and didn't hear it in Committee, as we had
already heard Bill 44 multiple times. But it is our rules of procedure for the
Council that the second reading is the final reading. There's no separating those
two. It is second and final reading. So there's not another reading.
MS. EVANS: Really? Okay. So there's never—okay. So my index, and here's
the confusion, my index says second or final reading. And so I'm under the
impression we get three readings when it comes to Council. So we don't get three
readings; we only basically get two?
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MS. KIMBALL: Council Member Evans, the index is not an official document
of the Council.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Evans, if I
could, the three readings actually occurs because we have one at Committee, then
we have two readings at Council. So that is your three readings of a bill.
MS. EVANS: Got it.
MR. HENRICKS: Sorry, Matt, if we could just take a step back. The agenda also
says, "second or final reading." That's intentional. And there are two readings at
Council. But sometimes we have Charter amendments on the agenda, which
require three which is why we use the standard language of"second or final
reading." But second reading for all bills, other than Charter amendment bills, is
the final reading, as that's what our Charter requires is two affirmative votes on
separate meetings for a bill to pass. Thank you.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Does that help, Ms. Evans?
MS. EVANS: It helps a lot, actually.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, beautiful.
MS. EVANS: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I would offer this: If you were
looking for a third reading, your correct motion would be to postpone until the
next meeting to offer people more ability to come in and testify. That would be
one way of having one more reading on the bill if you are concerned.
MS. EVANS: Okay.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. Okay, I yield.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you very much,
Ms. Evans. Okay, we're back to the motion on the floor. Seeing no further
discussion, all in favor?
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Vote on Bill 57: The motion to pass Bill 57 on second and final reading was
(Adopted) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Motion carries.
Bill 58: AMENDS CHAPTER 19, ARTICLES 1 AND 7, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY
CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO COMMUNITY
FOOD SUSTAINABILITY USE ASSESSMENTS
Seeks to implement recommendations of the Real Property Tax Review Working
Group and Agricultural Committee's September 2019 Final Report and the
2021 Annual Report of the Real Property Tax Board of Review by adding a new
definition for "Community food sustainability use" and establishing a new section
titled "Community food sustainability use assessment."
Reference: Comm. 370
Intr. by: Ms. Kimball and Ms. Galimba
First Reading: July 26, 2023
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kimball moved to pass Bill 58 on second and final
reading. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
ACTING CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion?
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Chair. Again, we had the discussion about this last
time. It's the same language that was in Bill 44. It's now its own piece of
legislation, and I just wanted to—we talked a little bit about the kind of examples
of the people that this would cover. And the story today in the Tribune-Herald
about the 15 folks that were finally assigned subsistence farming lots in
Pana`ewa, those are the folks exactly that I'm thinking might be able to take
advantage of this program. They're growing food for themselves and their
family. They might have a little bit over that they can sell or donate, but they're
not a commercial operation. That's the kind of folks that this community food
sustainability program is intended to help. So thank you. I'm asking for my
colleagues' support.
ACTING CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much. Council
Member Kierkiewicz.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I was a little on the fence when this had
initially come forward. I mean, my feelings on this are a little bit complex.
We've gotten rid of the nondedicated ag, and we had the short-term component
and wanting to just make sure that we weren't inundating real property tax with
all of these complex programs that we're asking them to facilitate.
But the article in the paper made me realize that we just need that additional
safety net to make sure that we are catching everybody that is contributing to our
food system but may not fit in existing categories. And so, even if it is 15 folks,
they are doing tremendous work to contribute, and we want to make sure that they
are provided incentives through real property tax. So I will be supporting this
today. Thank you. I yield.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council
Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: No comment. I yield.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you. Okay, coming
back to Hilo, seeing no lights on. I had a phone call from a Gayle Burns, who's
part of the Hawaii Organics Farmer Association, and she had some concerns.
Anyway, Mr. Jo, in the back, can you come up to the front? I just have a quick,
well hopefully a quick question for you.
(Note: At this time, Assistant Real Property Tax Administrator Keita Jo,
Finance Department, came forward to address the members of the
Council.)
MR. JO: Hello.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Hello. So her short message is
well-intended but concerns doesn't value non-food crops. And her guesstimation
is $600 right now, under the nondedicated ag program, going to $2,900 a year.
And I don't know what this is in reference to—her land size, what kind of parcel
she has but she's a farmer. Her husband co-founded the organic farmer
association, so I'm taking this person seriously.
The definition provided, I think this should be diversified agriculture. Is there
anything for the folks who may not be growing an actual food crop or an orchard,
that they can lean on to help reduce some of the cost so we can kind of massage
her fears?
MR. JO: Yeah, absolutely. As I read the legislation, Bill 43 allows for a carve-
out for individuals who are orchid growers and whatnot. It's an important
industry on the Big Island. There's a carve-out for them as well. Even though
there's a minimum size requirement, there's a recognition that a greenhouse might
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not be five acres in size. I mean, that's a massive operation. But you can submit
additional documentation to help support that you're commercially viable if
you're not meeting those minimum size requirements. So the short-term three-
year dedication would provide a place for an individual like that.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So she should really be
maybe she has good concerns regarding Bill 58, but there could be some saving
grace in Bill 43 that was passed.
MR. JO: Correct.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. I'll relay that to her, and
I'll ask her to follow up with Department of(Real)Property Tax, Real Property
Division, if she has further questions.
MS. KIMBALL: Chair, may I ask for some flexibility to respond to this
particular item?
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes, please.
MS. KIMBALL: I actually spoke to Gayle at length. She was unaware of the
passage of Bill 43. So I talked her through all of her options, and she's aware that
the short-term program is what she would ultimately fit under, and it would be no
different. That's why I made the comment before about Bill 43 having passed
because she just wasn't aware that that existed.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And I think that does
highlight—thank you for that, Ms. Kimball that does highlight kind of what
Ms. Evans was speaking to. And a lot of our farmers, they're not watching our
Council meetings. They're out in the fields. So we really need to do our work as
far as getting this in front of them, and understanding all the different
complexities of our Code now, and how that applies to each and every situation.
And that touches on what I asked you folks the other day: How do we get this in
front of the right people, whether it's senior, property tax exemptions, or
reductions in value, or is it getting out in front of our farmers. I know we have
different programs available as we end certain programs.
Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Jo. That was a fairly short answer, yeah. Okay.
With that, I do not see any further discussion. We have the motion on the floor to
adopt Bill 58. Council Members, all in favor?
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Vote on Bill 58: The motion to pass Bill 58 on second and final reading was
(Adopted) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: The motion carries.
Relinquish Chair: At this time, Acting Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
relinquished the chair to Chair Kimball.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Order of
THE DAY the Day (Second or Final Reading).
(SECOND OR
FINAL READING): (Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Bill 51: AMENDS CHAPTER 24, ARTICLE 10, DIVISION 1, OF THE HAWAII
COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO
SPEED LIMITS
Amends Section 24-256, Schedule 3 by adding Kalaniana`ole Street,
James Kealoha Park Access Road to Leleiwi Street to decrease the speed limit from
30 to 25 miles per hour, and removes the same from Section 24-256, Schedule 4.
Reference: Comm. 321
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
First Reading: July 26, 2023
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to pass Bill 51 on second and final
reading. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. Thank you for letting me go last. I had hoped
that someone from DPW (Department of Public Works) could get over and give
us the next steps, but we're going to do that at another time. So I just ask for my
colleagues' support. This was definitely a community-driven request, and look
forward to getting the work done to slow things down on that road. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Council Member
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I will be supporting this measure today. I
took a minute to drive down to Keaukaha the other day, and I was thinking about
this as I was driving down. And the more I thought about it, it's so important
because that area, people get going, especially the small, little loud cars, they
could possibly be Hondas doing 70 around those bends. And you have, on a
crowded weekend, you get people and kids walking along the sides of the road;
and this would be completely appropriate for public safety, yeah. Thank you,
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy,
for advancing this and working so diligently in partnership with community to
come up with the data,present the evidence, and then justify this change to our
Code. I'm wondering if you were able to speak to any of the movement within
Public Works that has happened since we had first heard this bill in Committee.
MS. LEE LOY: Yeah, thank you. And that's why I had hoped DPW could have
highlighted the work they did. So they've already gone out and established areas
in which they would be putting in speed tables to help slow the traffic down, some
other areas in which they would be erecting vertical delineators to keep people
kind of on the road, rather than on the sides of the road, and other areas in which
guardrails would be established.
There's some other thoughts about some visual prompts, as far as striping and/or
painting on the road, again to alert people, slow them down. And of course,just
the obvious signage, right: the speed limit, along with some other wildlife
crossing. And then of course, finally, with Police Department, empowering them
with all of these tools that sometimes all you need to do is ticket one or two, and
the word goes out. So that's the goal. And all of that is, hopefully, to be done by
the end of November or the end of the year. That's the goal. Thank you.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's really wonderful. Well done. I know that it took a
lot to kind of bring everybody together and get them to this point. So thank you
for being a source of inspiration for all of us. I can already see many bills coming
forward on a similar topic. Thank you, Chair, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. Anyone else? All
right, seeing none, all those in favor of adopting Bill 51 at second and final
reading, please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 51: The motion to pass Bill 51 on second and final reading was
(Adopted) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
REPORTS: The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Reports.
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
OTHER The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Other
BUSINESS: Business.
(There were none.)
ANNOUNCE- The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
MENTS: Announcements.
(There were none.)
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 12:25 p.m., Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to adjourn
MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Inaba— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: The time is 12:25 and we are now adjourned. Thank you,
everyone.
SEP 2 0 2023
Council Approval:
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