HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN COUNCIL 2023-12-06 2022-2024 Hawaii County Council
27th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
December 6, 2023
INVOCATION: Pastor Dion K. Maeda of Connect Point Church gave the morning's invocation.
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Hawaii County Council was called to order at
ORDER: 9:02 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Chair
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Vice Chair
Ms. Cindy Evans, Member(via videoconference from Kona)
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member (came in later)
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member (came in later)
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
PLEDGE OF The Chair directed the Council to the next order of business, Pledge of
ALLEGIANCE: Allegiance.
(At this time, County Clerk Jon Henricks led the Council in
the Pledge of Allegiance.)
PETITIONS, The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Petitions,
MEMORIALS, Memorials, Certificates of Merit, and Expressions of Condolence.
CERTIFICATES
OF MERIT, AND (Note: At this time:
EXPRESSIONS OF 1) Mr. Inaba presented the December 2023 Haweo Award to Detective John
CONDOLENCE: Balberde of the Hawaii Police Department;
2) Ms. Kierkiewicz presented a Certificate of Merit to Lisa Rantz for her
contributions to the Hilo Medical Center Foundation and for being awarded the
"Community Star" award from the National Organization of State Offices of
Rural Health. Ms. Kierkiewicz also presented a Certificate of Merit to
Stanward Oshiro for his efforts in hosting the Puna Light Show at his home for
the past 15 years and contributing donations for The Food Basket since 2018;
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3) Ms. Lee Loy presented a Certificate of Merit to Miss Francis Dela Cruz of
Waiakea High School for winning the Hawaii High School Athletic
Association Sporter Air Rifle State Championship.)
Recess: At 9:31 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 9:37 a.m.
(Note: At this time, Council Member Kierkiewicz introduced students
from the Pahoa and Keonopoko Schools who were present to observe a
portion of today's Council meeting.)
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Susan Aronson: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
Alan Rolph: Res. 337-23 (Comm. 569), in support.
(representing Amy
Greenwell Garden)
Toni Withington: Res. 328-23 (Comm. 557), in support.
Linda Halbritter: Res. 328-23 (Comm. 557), in support.
Mike Nakachi: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
Ainaaloha Ioane: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
Laurie Tavares: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
Hokunani Faisao: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
CHR. KIMBALL: Mr. Araceley, before we go on to the you guys can take a
seat. Thank you. I'm going to give you young folks a little lesson in civics. You
may go ahead and take a seat; apologies. We actually don't clap or make booing
noises or anything like that when folks testify. And the reason for that is
everybody should feel comfortable coming to a public session and stating what
they believe and how they feel, and what decision they want us to make. And so
we don't want to cheer or boo because it might make some people uncomfortable
in that situation. So, in order to make it fair and make sure that everybody has an
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opportunity to share with the public,please refrain from making any responses to
the testifiers. Thank you. With that, Mr. Araceley, we can go on to the next
testifier.
Vicky Rowe: Res. 328-23 (Comm. 557), in support.
Adrian Soochek: Res. 328-23 (Comm. 557), in support.
Janice Palma-Glennie: Res. 287-23 (Comm. 497), in support;
Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition;
Bill 83 (Comm. 498), in opposition;
Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition; and
Bill 101, Draft 2 (Comm. 590.2), in opposition.
(See Comms. 497.22, 498.2, 520.25, 590.3,
and 620.43)
Kilihea Inaba: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
Rico Ferrari: Res. 363-23 (Comm. 601), in support.
James Hanley: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in support.
Nathan Eggen: Res. 328-23 (Comm. 557), in support.
(See Comm. 557.23)
Kimberly Crawford: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
(See Comm. 620.10)
Sam De La Paz: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
Maurice Goulding: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
Breeani Kobayashi: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
(representing SCP Hilo
Hotel and Keaukaha General
Store)
Chuck Flaherty: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620); and
(representing Sierra Club - Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
Hawaii Island Group) (See Comm. 620.55)
Isaac Harp: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
(representing Makani Hou
o Kaloko-Honokohau)
Christine Nguyen: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
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Patrick Kahawaiola`a: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
(representing Keaukaha (See Comm. 520.17)
Community Association, Inc.)
Claudia Rohr: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition;
Bill 83 (Comm. 498), comment;
Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition; and
Bill 95, Draft 2 (Comm. 543.2), comment.
(See Comms. 498.3, 520.27, and 620.47)
Clare Loprinzi: Res. 337-23 (Comm. 569), in support; and
Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
Jacob Smith: Bill 87 (Comm. 520), in opposition.
(representing Leaky
Mountain Tours)
Indy Rishi Singh: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), comment.
Cindy Freitas: Res. 372-23 (Comm. 620), in opposition.
(See Comm. 620.17)
CHR. KIMBALL: We do need to take about a five-minute recess to reset
technology, and then we will come back and go into the agenda for the day, yeah.
We just need to take a quick break.
Recess: At 11:23 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 11:34 a.m.
APPROVAL The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Approval
OF MINUTES: of Minutes.
Vote on Approval Ms. Kagiwada moved to approve the Minutes of
of Minutes: November 1, 2023. Seconded by Mr. Inaba and carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Lee Loy — 1.
Excused: None.
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
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Res. 372-23: AUTHORIZES: (1) THE HIRING OF SCHLACK ITO, A LIMITED LIABILITY
LAW COMPANY, AS SPECIAL COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY
OF HAWAII IN HUI MALAMA HONOKOHAU V. COUNTY OF HAWAII,
CIVIL NO. 1:23-CV-00393; AND (2) THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER
FISCAL YEAR AND OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-
YEAR AGREEMENT WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR THE COUNTY'S
LEGAL DEFENSE IN HUI MALAMA HONOKOHAU V. COUNTY OF
HAWAII, CIVIL NO. 1:23-CV-00393
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a multi-year agreement with Schlack Ito to
provide legal services, with expenses not to exceed $200,000.
Reference: Comm. 620
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Waived: FC
Note: Requires 2/3 vote of the entire
membership, pursuant to Section 6-5.5,
Hawaii County Charter
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 372-23.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: At this time, I'd like to invite our Corporation Counsel to get
us situated. Just as a note to my colleagues here on the dais, deliberation whether
or not to approve or disapprove the resolution should occur in open session, but
we do have the option to go into Executive Session to review our rights,
privileges, and liabilities under Chapter 92. So, Judge Strance, if you would
please kick us off on this.
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Elizabeth Strance came forward
to address the members of the Council.)
MS. STRANCE: Good morning, Council. Elizabeth Strance, Corporation
Counsel, and with me is Lerisa Heroldt. She is our Litigation Division Supervisor
in the Office of Corporation Counsel. I read your approval of Corporation
Counsel's submitted Resolution 372 for the appointment of special counsel to
defend the County of Hawaii in the Hui Malama Honok6hau versus County of
Hawaii case.
This is a citizen lawsuit brought alleging violations of the Federal Clean Water
Act as to the County's Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant seeking
declaratory and injunctive relief and seeks imposition of fines until the County
complies. Citizen lawsuits can be brought regardless of whether the regulatory
agency tasked with oversight is actually enforcing or has administrative processes
to accommodate the process sought in a lawsuit and regardless of whether a
regulatory agency has found violation of the law.
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We are seeing this case because of the Maui decision, which has been discussed
quite a bit, and gray areas left by that decision. As stated in the resolution, the
County general—specifically the Office of Corporation Counsel, lacks the
expertise and personnel necessary to provide the level of legal services necessary
to represent the County.
And so I wanted to clarify some public statements that were made. This is not a
request being made by the Mayor. This is a request being made by my office
after an assessment of what it would take to defend this lawsuit, the resources that
we have in our office, and our current workload. After several meetings on that
and after the lawsuit was filed, we made the decision that we felt that we needed
additional resources and expertise in this area.
As some of you who were present for my confirmation hearing might recall, the
question was asked of me about what I thought we might need in our office. And
one of the statements I made was that having expertise in the area of
environmental law would be very helpful, given some of the challenges of the
County. We have not been able to retain those types of lawyers because simply
the current pay schedule and structure of our office does not attract that type of
lawyer.
Also, prior to making this request to Council, our office engaged in good-faith
negotiations with the Earthjustice legal team to avoid this lawsuit to no avail. So,
contrary to public statements or implications, the County did not initiate this
lawsuit and has never refused to negotiate. The Office of Corporation Counsel,
by Charter, is tasked with defending the County in lawsuits filed against it. We
don't choose the lawsuits that are filed. We have an obligation to the County to
defend those lawsuits.
There have been concerns expressed about the County should have modified the
Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant long ago to avoid the lawsuits, and this
resolution should be denied, essentially as punishing the County for refusing to
make those improvements some time ago. So I want to just take a look at that
kind of assessment. So the opposition to the resolution is that the County
shouldn't spend funds to defend itself in this lawsuit.
So, if, for example, and this is based upon the public documents that are available
from Earthjustice and in their complaint, that Earthjustice states that it may seek
penalties in the amount of$64,618 per day for each violation should it be
successful on its claim. Furthermore, it states an intention to prevent further
discharge. Given the amount of time required to make any improvements to the
Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant, this means that the County could be
forced to choose between the $64,000-a-day fine or closing the Kealakehe
Wastewater Treatment Plant or both.
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Earthjustice, who represents Hui Malama Honok6hau, possesses national
resources and specializes in environmental impact litigation. Its intention appears
to be to make this a high-profile case. And, for example, we learned of both the
demand made on the County and the lawsuit through media. This is unusual in
normal litigation where rules of courtesy often prevail and courtesy copies are
provided at least simultaneously with filing.
While our office is highly competent, it lacks expertise in this type of
environmental litigation. And given the specialty nature of environmental law
and more so in environmental litigation, we feel that having skilled lawyers in this
area would be helpful to defending the County in this lawsuit.
In addition, based upon recent discovery requests, we expect this case to be both
document intensive and technically specific and intensive. We are a relatively
small office and do not have the resources to devote to such a large case and
comply with the court deadlines while managing our other work. Currently, we
have six lawyers in our litigation division handling over a hundred lawsuits.
Further, the landscape of wastewater permitting is evolving. The State
Department of Health has not made revisions to its NPDES (National Pollutant
Discharge Elimination System)permit process since the Maui case, although we
understand that there are efforts in progress. The EPA (Environmental Protection
Agency) has made some changes to its rules and advisement, but they don't
appear to apply to the Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant. Having legal
expertise in the area of environmental law, and specifically in the Clean Water
Act, will help the County navigate changes should they occur during the course of
the lawsuit.
There have been some statements made about the desire to see negotiations. The
County has always been open to negotiations. We have never refused to
negotiate, and the lawsuit was filed regardless. While lawsuits are rarely one-
sided, the County does not really have an interest in taking this case to the United
States Supreme Court as some public comments have been made. But this does
not mean that the plaintiffs or the Earthjustice legal group don't have that interest.
Well over 90 percent or 95 percent of all lawsuits eventually settle, and we have
little reason to believe that this case will not ultimately settle. And the County is
and will be open to mediation. The courts will even sometimes order this over the
objection of aparty.
The purpose of Resolution 372 is to meet what we believe in our office is a real
necessity required by this lawsuit, and we request your favorable support for it.
These are public comments. If the Council has specific questions about the
lawsuit that would require us to discuss attorney-client privilege matters, we can
go into Executive Session. But the basic format and the rationale and reasons for
the resolution are pretty clear. We stated them in public. Thank you.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Judge Strance. All right. So, at this time, I'll
open the floor up for discussion on the resolution. Does anybody have questions
for Judge Strance or Deputy? Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. I'd like to go into Executive Session.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Sure, if it isI think that might be a good thing just to get us
started, and then the deliberations can occur in the public space.
Vote on Motion to Mr. Inaba moved to enter into Executive Session in order to
Enter into hold attorney-client privilege discussion regarding
Executive Session: Res. 372-23, as authorized by Section 92-5(a)(4) of the
(Approved) Hawaii Revised Statutes. Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada and
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Lee Loy — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: We will enter into Executive Session at this time. Thank you.
Recess: At 11:54 a.m., the Chair called for a recess in order to clear the
room.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 1:05 p.m.
CHR. KIMBALL: All right, folks. Thank you for your patience. We are back
out of Executive Session. The motion on the floor is to adopt Resolution 372-23.
I will open up the floor to discussion. Who would like to kick us off? Council
Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Do we need a summary of what was discussed?
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, we do. Thank you. Would you like to provide that?
MR. INABA: Yes. In Executive Session, the Council consulted with the
Corporation Counsel of specifics in the case, and specifically background
information of the case that some of us were not aware of,just so that we had a
good foundation to start off our deliberations here in open session. Thank you. I
yield.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Anyone else? A discussion on
the resolution? Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. All right. So, given what Council
Member Inaba just said, we did learn some additional information in our session.
Please, I don't think I'm going to say anything that shouldn't be shared, but I
just—general. I learned that the County was willing to negotiate before the
lawsuit was filed and was not successful, and that they really need this expertise
going forward in order to go into the discovery phase of the suit and really find
out what do we know about the situation, what does Earthjustice know about it,
what—share all information, what do we still need to learn and figure that out.
And that hopefully, then, they could potentially go into negotiations once again.
And also that this is not at all—my feeling after learning more about this is this is
not so the County gets out of working on improving the Kealakehe Wastewater
system, and that we will continue to do that, look at ways to do that. And I hope
that our Environmental Management Commission, our DEM (Department of
Environmental Management),potentially our Council Members that might want
to work with their constituents in that area will find ways to work on this together
going forward. And I don't think it needs to wait until after this lawsuit is
wrapped up. So I will be voting in favor of supporting the Corp. (Corporation)
Counsel's request because I think the expertise is needed to do these things and to
get the best results for our County. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Anyone else?
Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: This is a really tough one. And in our conversations in
Executive Session I really appreciated the sharing. And to clarify for a number of
the testifiers, those that have sent in written testimony and also testified today,
that the resolution was not formulated or brought forth from the Mayor's office.
It was explained specifically to us that Corp. Counsel's job and the part of that
office that handles litigation is incredibly small. Our County is navigating
upwards of maybe up to a hundred cases against the County, and your job is
specifically to defend the County. I always like to say there is no "the County";
it's the people that work in the County. But essentially from a financial
standpoint, there is a County that has fiscal impacts and all that kind of stuff.
So this came from you in the request for the resources because you're already at
capacity. And it's recognized that this case is worthy of the best legal focus as
possible with an organization that has been shared with us, it's believed, a legal
firm who has a record of being ethical and allied with finding the highest, best
solution for environmental issues and having worked with organizations and
clients and with the EPA and with Clean Water Act and in those arenas and have
had success without being the win-at-any-cost cutthroat.
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I, myself, have challenges with this because prior to the discovery and expos6 of
the dire circumstances of the Hilo Wastewater Treatment facility, the Kealakehe
wastewater facility has been on my radar since I was a teenager. And with
concerns about wanting to help start our Surfrider chapter in Kona and whatnot,
that has always been a big focus. I've worked closely with some of the activists,
scientists, and experts on the west side. There's some who are now listed in this
case.
And so I'm going to do my best right now to make a decision based on my
relationship with Corp. Counsel personally and professionally in trusting that the
intention of hiring outside counsel and the investment of this money, taxpayer
money, in hiring outside counsel is not, as it's been implied in claims by testifiers,
with the intention of following the same path as the Maui lawsuit, is with the
intention of fighting this saying the County isn't doing anything wrong, it's not
causing any harm, but that we get where we need to go to.
And as was pointed out I think very articulately, unfortunately lawsuits are the
way in the environmental world that shit gets done or cleaned up, literally. And
that's how we set new precedent, and that's how we clarify things. And
unfortunately, the way we treat our lands and our waters and our ecosystems has
not been enough of a priority for it to have been established per se on the front
end, but it's been kind of on the back end—once again another pun because
profit margins and whatnot have always kind of been more of a priority,
unfortunately.
So I will be, much to the chagrin I'm sure from a number of people I will hear
from, but I will be voting in favor of the allocation of these resources.
Judge Strance, I see your eyes today and how exhausted you must already be
mitigating all of these issues and with a six-member staff, I believe, and how
much that takes out of you. And I know, for myself, self-care is imperative in this
job because you can never really be prepared for what's coming next, but taking
care of your team is what I really feel.
I have concerns about this becoming a bottomless pit of money and vada vada,
but that's where I have to trust also in this Administration and Mayor Roth's
consistent claims—I'll just wrap it up—consistent claims of sustainability,
resilience, and returning to regenerative practices that eliminate the degradation
and contamination of our lands and waters are truly the goal, and that's where
we're going to get to. And that's the intentionality of this, and having legal
counsel that can help get us there without taxpayers paying millions upon millions
in fines and restitution and all those kinds of things. So that's my mana`o for
today. So thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Anyone else? Checking in, Council
Member Evans?
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MS. EVANS: Are we on the resolution, or are we just reporting back on what—?
CHR. KIMBALL: We are on the resolution.
MS. EVANS: Okay. So I want to get into the details. Okay. So I'm really
having issue with the process of how this came in front of us and what I'm
reading. And I'm looking at the fact that there was a lawsuit filed and then there
was a request for law firms to weigh in on if they have the qualifications to
represent us, and I feel like we're being asked to approve something after the fact
instead of coming to the Council before the fact. So I wanted to have our
Corporation Counsel explain why this wasn't brought to us prior to them going
out and soliciting on publishing a notice of providers to represent us on this
lawsuit.
MS. STRANCE: Thank you, Council Member Evans. We follow the process
that's required under the Code and the Charter. We come to you when we need to
retain outside counsel. That includes identification of the attorney or the law firm
and including a budget. And so we follow the process that is laid out for us.
MS. EVANS: So you need to choose someone, come up with the cost, and then
you bring it to us and say, "This is what we would hope you support"?
MS. STRANCE: Correct.
MS. EVANS: Okay. Would it be possible to hire some additional staff to put in
your litigation team and hire someone to come to work for us, considering—
there's—the
onsideringthere'sthe way you wrote theI guess I'm getting back to the language of your
resolution. There's implied, in the resolution, that it could take years. But it's
also implied that we're on the cusp of quite a bit of changes when it comes maybe
to environmental law, based on the Maui lawsuit, and that is the Department of
Health and the EPA have yet to really look at Hawai`i's geography and the impact
of lava tubes and how stormwater runoff and the water runs off from our
mountaintop into the ocean and our shorelines.
We're an island state. We're unique. And yet it seems like EPA and DOH
(Department of Health), it's a little out of their comfort zone. And so we're kind
of in this area that it appears to me is going to become where we're headed into
the future, like this is the beginning of something that could take many years and
a lot of debate at the State level, the Federal level. Would it not behoove us to go
out and hire and get you some additional help instead of going this route?
MS. STRANCE: Thank you, Council Member. I'm not sure I agree that the EPA
and Department of Health don't understand island communities or geography.
And if I could hire somebody and the team, I would have, but we haven't. And so
we're here because we have an immediate need.
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MS. EVANS: So tell me about the immediate need. How quickly do you have to
respond to this lawsuit and come back with a filing?
MS. STRANCE: We've already filed an answer. Discovery requests have been
made and we're in the process of having to respond to those. And so the lawsuit
is already proceeding, and we're needing to respond to requests from the
plaintiffs. So the need is kind of passed already, and we're managing as we can,
but we need to get somebody onboard.
MS. EVANS: Okay. The other thing in the resolution, it's asking for us to
approve beyond one fiscal year and to enter into a multiple-year agreement.
Multiple-year, what would be the—would it just be kind of like an automatic
renewal based on your decision? How would that play out?
MS. STRANCE: The way that the resolution is crafted is that the retention would
be through the lawsuit. So it's not like a one year or two year or a year with
options. It's for a project and that is to represent us in this lawsuit.
MS. EVANS: The other question, so the public knows the financial impact of
this, there's going to be more cost than just the 200,000 fee to the law firm.
There's going to be costs. It was anticipated that there's going to be studies
required. Can you give us a little more information on the additional cost that
might come along with this?
MS. STRANCE: Well, at the present time, we can't predict very precisely. And
when counsel comes on board, they may have ideas that might be different than
the ones that I have right now, but typically, there are costs. And almost every
lawsuit that involves hiring experts, if there's a lot of documents, it's collecting
documents and sometimes summarizing documents.
So, as I mentioned, this phase of the lawsuit, after the complaint is filed and the
answer is filed, becomes the discovery process. And during that process, we learn
more about the case and we identify what the needs of the case are. And so we
don't know everything that the plaintiffs know, and they'll be providing us with
information. We'll be providing them with information. And then, along the
way, if there is a need for other interpretations, then experts are filed. Sometimes
witnesses are identified, and those witnesses need to be interviewed. And the
formal word for interview where you preserve what they say are depositions. And
motions need to be filed. Those all have costs associated with them.
MS. EVANS: Okay. I want you to know that I do not support this resolution for
the following reasons: I do think you have a lot of talent on your litigation team.
I would like to see us go out and hire more people into your litigation. You say
you have six. I think we need to hire more people. I do think that I just approved,
as a Council Member, last week I think, or two weeks ago, were approving
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positions for other departments. I think that there's probably money in the budget
that the Mayor and the Finance Director can look to what we can do to support
you.
And I think if we have to pay money for certain expertises, then we should look at
really what we're paying for our lawyers and revisit that so we get people on staff.
And the reason I say that is I think that this particular lawsuit is just on the cusp of
other things that are going on around the island when it comes to stormwater
runoff, what's going out into the ocean. A lot of people are very upset. I see this
as an area of law that is just going to keep moving. It's not going to retreat.
And as I mentioned to you when we talked about the lawsuit, I'm one that leans
more towards sometimes the precautionary principle. Sometimes we have to
move on things not always knowing the correct answer, but we know that
something is clearly not right. And so it's good to be precautionary.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Evans,just a heads up, your buzzer went off
a little bit ago over here. So if you can summarize.
MS. EVANS: Okay. So, anyway, thank you for the latitude, Chair. And with
that, I just want the public to know that I will not support this resolution today.
Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Anyone else? Council
Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. And I really appreciated the time in Executive
Session where you could come to us with I think a lot of humility and deep
contemplation around what we needed to protect the interest of our County and
future generations. And so I will be supporting this resolution kind of reluctantly
because I just don't know how much this is going to cost us in the long run, legal
fee-wise. But then also whatever comes of this process, there is going to have to
be investments in improvements to that facility. We all know they have to
happen. And there are other communities, other facilities, that do need time and
attention in this space as well. But I know that you need that expertise if you're
going to have a fighting chance.
It was disheartening to hear that Earthjustice was not willing to negotiate. But I
am hopeful, as you mentioned in Executive Session, that through this process, we
can communicate everything that the County is doing to address wastewater
treatment issues at this facility and facilities island-wide, right, that holistic
approach that we are taking, and forcing mediation. Some kind of collaborative
solution where the County, Earthjustice, and all relevant stakeholders are coming
to the table to come up with a realistic plan for how we will achieve clean water
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and preserving our `aina for future generations. So I will be supporting this and
just ask that, when you can,please do make reports to the Council so that we
know how this is progressing. Thank you, Chair.
I'll add one more thing. I'm not always a fan of lawsuits, but sometimes they do
provide us with an opportunity to provide clarity when different agencies often
want to pass the buck to the other to figure out. So it'll be great to finally have a
chance to get some clarity in the situation. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. Council Member
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I always wonder why when I email you or I
call you, Betsy, you don't answer your phone. But in moments like these, I
recognize why you're not answering because this is one thing of many that you're
juggling, but it's not a small issue. It's much bigger than the things that I'm
bringing to you. And so I appreciate that you've very humbly said, "This isn't
from the Mayor. This is our office requesting this in the form that it's required, in
the process required so that we can figure out what to do." And this is, I think,
your way of saying this is how we've been required, and this is how we are going
to sit down at the table with everyone in the community and find a solution.
I'll be supporting it today, and we're being asked not to. This seems like the
proper way to proceed at this point, and I need you guys to be able to do your job.
And this is our role in ensuring that we're all taken care of. This is hard for me
because I feel like this is pitting county against county; it's our constituents versus
us in government. I hate being in that position because it just—it's how it works
sometimes, but it's also difficult. So, instead of looking at it like that—I'm trying
to find a positive—is this is going to force us to sit down at the table together.
And if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. And if this is the method we get
there by, this is the method we get there by. So I'll be supporting. I look forward
to the solutions that come out of this. And, albeit it's a lawsuit, maybe that's the
vehicle that is going to take to get there. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. I'm not
sure who was first over here. Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. Just very briefly. I also will be supporting this. I
feel it's a very worthy investment in coming to the best solution. It may not be
soon, but I think it will be definitely getting good expertise in this. It's going to
bring us to the best solution for everyone, and that's why I'll be supporting it.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Council
Member Lee Loy.
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MS. LEE LOY: Thanks, Chair. All through Executive Session, I was real quiet; I
just listened, and I just continue to listen. For me, I'm going to be voting
"kanalua-yes," on this one. I'll tell you why. I've been around this County for a
very long time since my early twenties, and I've watched a lot of decisions being
made. I also understand the subject-matter expertise that is needed for this type of
lawsuit, and I will not—and I feel it is my duty to make sure the County is not
trying to punch up against their weight class, let alone punch up against their
weight class with one hand tied behind their back. I didn't raise my hand and
swear an oath to do this work. I want it to be where everybody's fair and we have
the best subject-matter experts on board.
But I also reflect on a lot of things that have come through the County over the
course of the last 20 years that have changed the landscape of how we handle
waste, solid waste, and our wastewater specifically on the west side. And some of
the things that were planned to help us address some of these solid waste and
wastewater issues either ran out of time, ran out of funding, or the community had
different sentiments over time because there were more people coming into that
area and they missed why we were headed in one direction because we needed to
address these longstanding infrastructure issues that take a long time to address.
So I'm sitting here really asking myself how much of this is really some of our
own making and doing over time too. But we're here. And that's why I will be
voting "kanalua-yes" on this one. Because if not anything I know I'm making the
right decision to give us the best shot that we have right now to come to some
kind of conclusion. Thank you. Thank you, Judge Strance. Thank you for being
here. I really appreciate just the humility and the vulnerability you provided to us
in Executive Session, which is why I can vote "yes,"but I'm having a hard time
with some of the other decisions that came long before us. Thank you, Chair, I
yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Okay. Well, we did hear a lot from community, and we got to hear
from Corporation Counsel in terms of lack of staff and lack of expertise when it
comes to what's needed for this case. The $200,000 being requested, that was
budgeted in your annual budget for your office?
MS. STRANCE: Yes.
MR. INABA: Okay. For me, and with the people that I represent, also
understanding my duty as a Council Member and what is in the best interest of the
County, and seeing where the votes are right now, I'll be voting "kanalua-no."
"Kanalua"because I do understand the strain on your office and seeing the
attempts that had been made by the office to not just go find an attorney who is
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aware to win on the County's behalf, but to also be sensitive and to take into
account the value that`aina and kai play for us as residents of this land and as
Native Hawaiians, especially for those who were providing testimony.
I have to vote "no"just because I have not seen very updated or clear plans. I've
seen plans that are I think outrageous in terms of the cost that it would take to
convert to R-1. And at the same time, I haven't seen where we've really looked at
other options for even perhaps the R-2 water currently being discharged could be
used, whether it be on construction sites for dust, keeping the dust down where
folks are not around. I haven't seen that.
I'm afraid that we crack this can open today for $200,000, and depending on if we
experience a bit of success, how far are we going to go. Will it be 400,000?
600,000? How many more resolutions is it going to take for us to address this
issue? In the meantime, I would hope that the department is able to come back
and really provide us an updated kind of presentation and not something long-
winded, something really to show us what are short-term potential options in the
meantime that really shows the County's true goodwill to try and address this
problem. But with that, I have to vote "no"today but with reservations obviously.
Thank you so much.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Just quickly kind of circling back to something that I
remembered. I have aI was trying to sound confident and determined in my
choice, but there's a lot of kanalua in my system over all this as well. So I really
respect and appreciate the words from my counterparts on the Council here.
And in a recent article by Pat Tummons at Environment Hawaii, she's talking
about a time extension for a specific development in Kona. And she specifically
points to this lawsuit as being a potential obstruction for any future development
or large zoning changes, because the new requirements are to connect to a
wastewater treatment facility, right. In most predominantly—any large
development would be ideally they need to be connecting to that. Now, my
question for you this was implied in this article—now, is that in fact the case?
Because, any future developments that need to connect to this wastewater
treatment facility, can they be connecting to a wastewater treatment facility that's
currently in litigation in a major lawsuit?
MS. STRANCE: One of the requested relief is for injunctive relief that hasn't
gone before the court. So I don't want to say yes, and I don't want to say no.
MS. VILLEGAS: That's why you're a lawyer.
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MS. STRANCE: It depends. But I think that one of the concerns raised in the
case, one of the impetus to the case is that the plaintiffs are concerned that things
haven't been taken care of
MS. VILLEGAS: Exactly.
MS. STRANCE: To their satisfaction or what their belief(inaudible)now, and
there are plans to expand. And so the goal of the case would be to not allow
expansions unless or until there are upgrades to the treatment plant. And so
there's not something in place right now, but I think that's part of the impetus for
the case. And that would be part of something that would be worked out in the
relief if they're successful.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you. And so, ironically, I find myself sitting here. And
if I wasn't sitting here, I'd be on the side of Earthjustice. And so that's the
challenge for me here, but in my role also protecting and supporting the staff in
our County. And everybody's heard me go on and on about District 7 being at
capacity until infrastructure improvements are put in place. And so, for that, my
greatest hope is that Earthjustice brings all the evidence necessary to require the
County to upgrade, install, and get us to the next level of wastewater treatment
and capacity in order to not waste this priceless resource of water. And I
understand their frustration and those that filed the case because the County has
drug their feet for decades.
I'm trying to remain hopeful in all of this at the best possible solution, and that we
have the people that will be involved and that this legal firm that you spoke so
highly about does operate with that level of integrity and intentionality. I'll be
making some phone calls and finding out some stuff myself, but holding feet to
the fire.
And also trying to provide you guys with the support as I continue to dance this
dance and navigate both sides of trying to figure out how we get to where we need
to go, and the community wins, the water wins, the land wins, and our future
generations win by having a safe and healthy ocean ecosystem and groundwater.
And damn if we can't—we really need to figure out a better way to manage our
human waste. So we've got a lot of work to do, but it is a focus within not only
our County but the State and the country and globally. So I'm oddly grateful for
the lawsuit because that's how we sometimes get answers. So I can oddly be
grateful for this job too. And I'm very grateful for you guys. So thank you. I
yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. I do want to wrap this up
because we have people who have been waiting all morning for some other
things, but go ahead.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: All too often, I think it is (inaudible)
statements sometimes. I forget to ask questions. It's kind of a simple question;
maybe you can and maybe you cannot answer. What would you consider a win in
this case, Betsy? Because you're going to be you're not going to be the Schlack
Ito, but you are going to be guiding this in a way, I would assume. So, for you,
what would a win be? Because, I don't think the win is, "We won. We're the
County." I think the win is something else. What would that be for you?
MS. STRANCE: I guess the—what I'm hearing from you folks and one of the
reasons that it's a heavy lift to consider this resolution, and listening to the public
comment, is that people are unhappy with the condition of the Kealakehe
Wastewater Treatment Plant and feel that concerns have not been heard and acted
on. And so a win would be to see those actions taken regardless of the lawsuit. A
lawsuit is sometimes a means to an end. Sometimes it's about clarification of
legal issues that aren't clear, but that's not what I heard mostly today. Mostly
today, what I heard was people saying they're unhappy with the way things are
and would like to see things change. And either good or odd or whatever, that's
not necessarily a part of the lawsuit. And so I guess my hope would be that
concerns are heard and acted on regardless of the lawsuit.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you for listening, Betsy.
I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Anyone
else? I just had a couple quick questions. First of all, when we were in Executive
Session, I mentioned to the newer Council Members that in the previous term, the
2020-2022 term, we had had a presentation by DEM on Kealakehe. That is
Communication 98.1. So if folks would like to review that.
Judge Strance, you have how many positions in your litigation section available
or open at this point? Do you have any open positions that you're actually trying
to hire for?
MS. STRANCE: One.
CHR. KIMBALL: Have you had any success in finding candidates for that
position?
MS. STRANCE: No. We recently hired a deputy who is doing double duty;
doing some litigation work,primarily litigation work, and then some counseling
and drafting work. And so, like many departments, we're struggling with trying
to fill positions. And part of our leadership team discussions surround whether
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a
different result—whether we should be looking at a little bit different structure for
our office.
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CHR. KIMBALL: So, in response to some of the previous comments, if you
could actually hire somebody internally to be the lead on this lawsuit, you would.
We just are not getting the candidates in to fill the positions.
MS. STRANCE: That's correct.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Additionally, the process of professional services,
which is pretty typical, we don't need professional services all the time in given
departments, but there is, on an annual basis, a request for qualifications to go out.
Entities can go ahead and submit their qualifications, and then they become part
of a list that a department or the Corporation Counsel can select from for services,
correct. So it's not that you go out and hire specifically. It's that people get on
this list for professional services. That is the typical process.
MS. STRANCE: That's correct. And then we have a panel that does not include
me that goes through a rating process.
CHR. KIMBALL: And that's something that we do, not just for attorneys, but for
other engineering or, as an example, other types of services that the County
doesn't need on a consistent basis. But we do need to hire occasionally, rather
than going through the RFP (Request for Proposals)process.
MS. STRANCE: That's correct.
CHR. KIMBALL: Okay, thank you. I'm going to be supporting this as well.
Mr. Clerk, can you remind me, this is a two-thirds vote, right?
MR. HENRICKS: Of the entire membership.
CHR. KIMBALL: Great. Thank you. All right, I will ask you to do a roll call,
please.
Vote on Res. 372-23: The motion to adopt Res. 372-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following roll call vote:
Ayes: Council Members Galimba, Kagiwada,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—7.
Noes: Council Members Evans and Inaba—2.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
(Note: Ms. Lee Loy and Ms. Villegas voted "kanalua"then
"aye." Mr. Inaba voted"kanalua"then "no.")
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STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public.
PUBLIC ON
BILL 87 The following individual registered to speak and came forward when called by
(COMM. 520): the Chair:
Susan Champeny: In opposition.
(representing Leleiwi Community Association,
Waiuli We Count, and Keaukaha Stewardship
Program)
Bill 87: AMENDS SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO DISTRICT ZONE MAP),
ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983
(2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY CHANGING THE DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION FROM RESORT HOTEL—750 SQUARE FEET (V-.75) TO
LIMITED INDUSTRIAL—20,000 SQUARE FEET (ML-20) AT HILO,
HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY: 2-1-006:002
(Applicant: Aloha Kia) (Area: 1.795 acres)
The Windward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation for
this change of zone request, which would allow the applicant to develop a new car
dealership and service station for Aloha Kia. The property is located at
92 Kalaniana`ole Street in South Hilo.
Reference: Comm. 520
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba(B/R)
Approve: LAAC-39
Postponed: November 1, 2023
(Note: There is a motion by Ms. Lee Loy, seconded by Ms. Galimba, to pass
Bill 87 on first reading.)
(Note: Comm. 520.2, from Council Member Holeka Goro Inaba dated
November 8, 2023, transmitting proposed amendments to Bill 87, was circulated.
Comm. 520.3, from Council Member Holeka Goro Inaba dated December 5,
2023, transmitting a letter from Land Planning Hawaii LLC, relating to Bill 87,
was also circulated.)
MR. INABA: Thank you. Before we have further discussion on the bill, we do
have an amendment in our pinkie (folder).
CHR. KIMBALL: We need a motion on the bill, actually, first.
MR. HENRICKS: You do have a motion. I'm just wondering why you're not
chairing.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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MR. INABA: Okay. So, Communication 520.2, again putting language for time
conditions in line with the Code.
Motion to Amend: Mr. Inaba moved to amend Bill 87 with the contents of
Comm. 520.2. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. KIMBALL: On the amendment, Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Just ask for everyone's support. Sorry, I got ahead
with the explanation.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any further discussion on the amendment? Seeing none, all
those say "aye."
Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Bill 87 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 520.2 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Back to the discussion on the main motion.
MR. INABA: We do have the applicant and their representative here today, I
believe. At the last reading in early November, three of us were missing, but
there was concern that the current lessees had not been notified, and there's been
some ongoing discussion as well regarding extensions of the lease. So I would
like to provide the opportunity to Mr. Pipan and the applicant to explain anything.
And contained within our pinkies as well is Communication 520.3, which are
letters that were sent from Aloha Kia to the current lessees. So, Mr. Pipan, if
you'd like to make any statements, please do so at this time.
(Note: At this time, John Pipan, consultant, and Russell Wong,
applicant's representative, came forward to address the members of the
Council.)
MR. PIPAN: Thank you very much. Aloha kakou. Thank you, Madam Chair,
members of the Council. Since our last meeting, I trust you've received our
communication, which is affirmed. We've been speaking with the tenants,
Aloha Kia, the landowner. Sorry, I failed to introduce myself. John Pipan,
consultant, here with Russ Wong of Aloha Kia. Chris Tamm, the landowner, is
behind us.
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We've offered to extend the leases of the three current tenants through the end of
November 2025, and we feel that this is a fair compromise that would allow them
opportunity to find alternatives through this transition period. I might add that
should this potential purchase fail, there's nothing that would prevent the
landowner from selling to another person. And basically killing this bill does not
ensure that Millie's remains. So I just want to be sure that we're not
disadvantaging a business by wanting to support a business. We shouldn't
necessarily think about this in that way. This is a rezone request, and we should
remember the original reason for the rezone. It's very hard to find properties that
are appropriate that do have a General Plan industrial designation that would
support a rezone like this to allow a car dealership. Car dealerships are very hard
to site.
There is public benefit to this project. Increased property taxes generated by the
increased property value of this use would add to the County's coffers. The last I
checked, I and probably most of us used a car to get here this morning. And
Aloha Kia, for the last 20 years, has provided transportation for our community.
And increasingly, those options are hybrid and EVs (electrical vehicles). So they
are helping to address electrification of our transportation industry.
Again, the proposal is aligned with the General Plan industrial designation, and
this is law adopted by Ordinance 05-25. This project is consistent with and would
implement the General Plan. This has been affirmed at each of our previous steps
with the County agencies, the planning commission, and our Committee meeting
with this body. The surrounding uses are of a commercial and industrial
character. Again, Big Island Coffee Roasters, the Suisan warehouses are on either
side. The airport is to the south. Industrial and commercial uses all around.
Car sales and car rentals are just a short drive down Kalaniana`ole. Reeds Bay
and Ice Pond are across the street, and they are natural beauty sites. They will be
protected under the proposed action. The proposed development has been
thoughtfully planned to minimize the impacts to the natural beauty of the area.
The site will be landscaped per Planning Department Rule 17. And the proposed
development would utilize the existing structure and add on to the mauka side a
new building with a similar height, and this would minimize any view impacts
from the development.
The proposed use was evaluated with respect to its potential impacts to the
environment, cultural, historic resources, shoreline access, and scenic views and
was approved by SMA (Special Management Area) Major Permit 2023-32 with
conditions requiring protections and mitigations for the project's modest impacts.
These include limitations on exterior lighting fixtures, requirements for a drainage
study, construction best management practices, the NPDES permit—the National
Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit—which will include the
stormwater prevention plan. All of these would prevent impacts to nearby
sensitive sites.
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Again, the SMA permitting process evaluated all of these impacts and determined
that, with the permit conditions, the project could proceed, pending approval of
the change of zone. Any other industrial uses of this site that testifiers may have
referenced junkyards, etcetera they would have to go through the SMA
process all over again.
The traffic impacts due to the proposed use are very modest, actually less than
currently exists. Twenty peak-hour trips would be associated with the auto
dealership, and that's including every oneemployees, visitors. Both DOT
(Department of Transportation) and Department of Public Works' reviews of the
project expected no adverse impacts to traffic based on the proposed use. So,
again, please recall there are virtually no suitable sites for Aloha Kia to relocate
from their leasehold to a fee simple property like this one. This is a very-few-
and-far-between property.
We have the opportunity here to permit a zoning consistent with the General Plan,
and that has already satisfied the required environmental review. And again, I
would respectfully caution the Council against making a decision to disregard the
General Plan in this case and the work of the agencies, and favor one business
while disadvantaging another. With that, Russ Wong, I think he had just a few
words about Aloha Kia and their history here.
MR. WONG: Yeah. Having sat through a lot of the testimony today, first I want
to say I've heard all of it. Appreciate the testimony. It's always important.
Obviously with any testimony, there's some things we agree with andI'm
Russell Wong, I'm sorry. I'm responsible for the statewide operations of
Aloha Kia. I identify myselfI was born and raised on Oahu. I identify myself
as a Native Hawaiian. Proud graduate of Kamehameha Schools. And appreciate
the opportunity I have with respect to this business. I definitely respect the
community and understand the values of our culture.
Aloha Kia has been in business in Hilo for over 20 years. In fact, our initial lease
expired earlier this year. About five years ago, knowing our lease was expiring,
we started looking for a suitable alternative where we could build our—so we
have grown. The company has grown. And just a few things: 20 years ago, we
started in Hilo supporting the community. The community supported us and
allowed us to grow.
We then invested and 12 years ago established a facility in Kona because our
customers in Kona didn't want to drive all the way to Hilo for service. We
decided it made business sense to invest in the community in Kona and have
another dealership in Kona. So one of the things I want to say is it's not like
there's going to be a new dealership in Hilo. Basically, we've got a three-year
extension, and we are hoping to accomplish this objective so that we can move in
three years to the new location. We're on a one-acre property right now. This is
1.79 acres. I think it's been stated many times. It will allow us the opportunity to
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double our service facility. It will improve the flow. Because, if you know where
we're at now, it's really kind of not a good flowing operation. It's going to have a
lot of community benefit, in my opinion.
And we understand the challenges of being at lease-end because that's what we
are facing. And I truly have empathy for the existing tenants because that's what
we've been going through the last four or five years, trying to figure out what
we're going to do.
So I want to take you through the process. We started looking five years ago and
couldn't find anything. Dealerships like to be around other dealerships because
we like like-businesses being around like businesses. And it supports the
community because you're all in a similar area. We're not adding a dealership to
Hilo. We are relocating a dealership from one location to another.
As we looked for different properties, we studied all the available properties.
There was nothing on the market. We looked at the tax map keys, and we found
that this property was being tax assessed as an industrial property. And we had no
idea this was a visitor-zoned property. So, for some reason, I don't know what
happens in the County, but someone must have decided that this was more of an
industrial property. And I think it was on what you guys call a General Plan. I
don't understand that process. But it was on the General Plan as industrial
property. And so we thought, "No problem."
So we made an unsolicited offer to thea letter of intent that we wanted to enter
into negotiations with the owner saying, "Hey, look, you've got industrial
property in an industrial area." We are probablya car dealership is probably
one of the best industrial businesses because we're clean; we're compliant. It's
not, as I heard in testimony, a junkyard. You've got to have standards that the
manufacturer requires of you in order to represent the manufacturer in the market.
And so we thought this was a great—and not until we got into the letter of intent
did somebody say, "Hey, it's master planned. It makes sense. It works. But
you're going to have to go get zoning to change the current zoning to meet the
master plan." John understands this stuff. I don't. I understand cars but I don't
understand as much about the County stuff. So that's what brought us to this
point.
But I wanted to just share because I heard a lot of things about there's no
community benefit to a big business in a market. And I just want to share a little
bit. In our nation, car dealerships are often referred to as the backbone of
Main Street, U.S.A. (United States of America). And they refer to car dealers as
that because we generally are locally managed and locally run. And I am sure if
you folks think of some car dealers, the names of the dealer principals in this
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community, you'll know how much they care and commit to the community.
And I think we've shown that over 20 years in Hilo and 12 years in Kona how
much we care and commit to the community.
I heard a guy here asking you guys today for support for soccer organizations.
You don't know how many requests we get daily, weekly, monthly to support
teams, to support—and that's the kind of stuff that car dealers do nationwide. We
do support the communities we operate in, and we contribute a lot to the
communities we operate in.
We are an essential business. During the pandemic, I had employees that wanted
to be furloughed because they wanted to collect on government-provided
subsidies because they had to come to work. And people that weren't working
were able to support their families as well as these guys that were there working
every day. So I have a lot of respect for the healthcare workers, the grocery
store because these guys had to go to work and greet people.
MR. INABA: Mr. Wong, I'm going to ask if you can summarize, please.
MR. WONG: I'm sorry. Okay, so we support Bill 87 as it allows us to invest
further in the community if we get the approval, because a significant investment
in building, and continue to support the community. I also don't—while we were
outside waiting, a 20-year mechanic says, "Hey, what's going to happen if they
vote against the zoning?" And I said, "We'll have to figure something out, but I
don't know because we don't have options." So it's not like we're adding an
operation to the Hilo community; we are continuing an operation. Your vote will
help us continue an operation in this Hilo community.
There's a lot of benefits that we provide. We care about the community. We love
the communities we operate in. And I do ask for your support in considering to
rezone this—we've (inaudible) for 15 months trying to do everything that we're
supposed to do in the right way, and we just ask for your support to get us through
the final hurdle.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Just to confirm, the current landownerI'm looking
at the real property tax map, and Aloha Kia is the applicant on this application.
Mr. Pipan, can you clarify?
MR. PIPAN: Correct. Chris Tamm is the owner of the property Bay Lighting.
He's here if you have any questions.
MR. INABA: Okay, so a non-property owner is the one submitting the
application.
MR. PIPAN: Correct. Yes. The applicant is a potential purchaser of the
property.
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MR. INABA: Okay. And if it isn't granted a rezoning, your intention is not to
purchase.
MR. WONG: Yeah. We couldn't purchase the property.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Deputy Director, anything to add on the current
application at this time?
(Note: At this time, Planning Deputy Director Jeffrey Darrow
came forward to address the members of the Council.)
MR. DARROW: Aloha, Chair Kimball, Vice Chair Inaba, and members of the
Council. Jeff Darrow with the Planning Department. Seeing the comments that
had come in for this application, a lot of passion, a lot of strong emotions that this
application is bringing out. It prompted me to take a good look at the history of
this particular area as well as this property. This property actually was originally
zoned in 1968 with the City of Hilo Zone Map. And at that time, basically what
happens is they take that particular location, and they identify the zoning that's
usually in place at that time. And then they approve the map through ordinance.
So the City of Hilo Zone Map was approved in 1968. At that time, this property
as well as the properties to the west and to the makai east property was zoned
resort. In 1975, the Hilo Community Development Plan was approved by
resolution. In that plan, it identified this particular triangle that's in this location
where the resort zonings are as being proposed to be general industrial one acre
by the community development plan.
And so, shortly after that, in 1981, the property to the northeast had come in for a
rezoning from resort to limited industrial or light industrial. And in that, it's
interesting, the language they use in the ordinance. It says, "An ordinance
amending Section 7.29, the City of Hilo Zone Map, Article 2, Chapter 8, Zoning
Code of the Hawaii County Code, as amended, to conform with the County of
Hawaii General Plan, as amended on July 5h, 1979." Let me back up for a
minute. So the first General Plan was approved in 1971. And at that time, it had
pretty much reflected the current zoning, which was these properties being resort
and then the properties to the east being industrial.
And so in 1979, after the Hilo CDP (Community Development Plan) was
approved, apparently there was an amendment to the Geneal Plan changing this
area to industrial. My thought would be in response to the Hilo Community
Development Plan. And since that time till the current General Plan, it's
remained industrial, this property as well as the properties to the east and to the
west.
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The last time we were here, I believe it was Council Member Evans asked if the
draft General Plan is also proposing industrial for this property as well as the
properties to the east. That is correct. They are continuing to propose this area
for industrial.
When you look at the General Plan in the South Hilo District under the industrial
land use element, it identifies three primary industrial locations within Hilo: One
is the Kanoelehua area, another is the Hilo Harbor area, and the last is the Hilo
airport area. And they are trying to concentrate these industrial areas in an area
where these transportation facilities are in close proximity to these industrial
areas. Now that's from a general picture.
So, again, I'm just trying to provide some background as to how we got here, how
these properties all of a sudden changed from resort to industrial on the General
Plan, and why the Planning Department feels that this is an appropriate request,
being consistent with the General Plan goals, policies, and objectives as well as
the graphic depiction of the Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide Map for this
particular area.
We've taken a good look at this. There's been a lot of concerns regarding
potential impacts to the Ice Pond, potential impacts to beautiful nature, beauty
sites that are proposed in the General Plan. Those all are located on the makai
side of Kalaniana`ole Highway. This is on the mauka side of that road. There's
been a lot of activity in this area currently with improvements to that particular
roadway. And again, the main reason most likely that I'm assuming is the traffic
to the harbor with all the large trucks coming in and out. Again, the
transportation facilities. This location has all essential utilities available. It has
sewer. It has storm wells, correct, for runoff. It has utilities as far as electrical,
water; everything is available. So, again, this is why the Planning Department
does feel that this request is appropriate for this particular location.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Deputy Director. I do want to hear, myself, from the
Council Member of the district. Prior to that, though, I just want to state public
benefit has been brought up today. The public benefit is often brought up in the
perspective of adding to the County coffers. County coffers doesn't necessarily
mean public benefit all the time, and I said this before: Do not caution the
Council against making decisions that are within our powers, duties, and
functions. We can choose whatever we want to do with an application that is
before us. I'd like to hear from Council Member Lee Loy at some point. Thank
you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Okay, kick us off,please.
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MS. LEE LOY: Thanks, Mr. Darrow. Thanks, Mr. Pipan, Mr. Wong, for being
here. Jeff, walk me through that dates of the original zoning maps, the General
Plan, the City of Hilo Map, and then kind of that overall broad strokes. Tell me
the dates again. And you mentioned a previous change of zone
MR. DARROW: Correct.
MS. LEE LOY: And the way that ordinance was structured.
MR. DARROW: So, originally, the Hilo City Zone Map, which identified this
particular location's original zoning, was approved in 1968. This identified this
property as well as the properties in that triangle to the west and then one property
to the east on the makai east side. That was in 1968. The first General Plan was
approved in January of 1971, which basically reflected the current zoning. So it
identified the industrial zoning to the east. And this property and the property
adjacent to it to the east and the west were identified as resort.
In 1975, the Hilo Community Development Plan was approved. The plan
identified this area to be industrial, general industrial one acre. So instead of
doing a land use designation, it gave more of a zoning designation. So it gave one
of the highest industrial designations for this area. And it wasn't just this way; it
was also to the east as well.
In 1981, there was the rezoning to the east on the makai side of a property that
was currently zoned resort. And they requested the rezoning to light industrial.
And again, the way that the wording was on the title of the zoning was that it was
going to conform with the Amended General Plan of 1979. And so that was
interesting. Again, I tried to locate that and I couldn't find it, but it was
referenced in that ordinance. The next major General Plan update was in 1989,
2005, and then currently. And from 1989 until the current General Plan, it's
remained industrial. Thank you.
MS. LEE LOY: Thanks, Mr. Darrow. And when we talk about zoning
designations, "V" is resort and this one would be "ML,"right, for light industrial?
MR. DARROW: Correct.
MS. LEE LOY: Thanks. If I could, Chair, I wanted to call up Pat Kahawaiola`a
and maybe even qualify him as a subject-matter expert. Uncle Pat, if that's okay?
(Note: At this time, Patrick Kahawaiola`a, representing Keaukaha
Community Association, Inc., came forward to address the members of
the Council.)
MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: Hello, my name is Pat Kahawaiola`a.
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MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Uncle Pat. The tract, so eloquently called Keaukaha,
established when?
MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: The tract is in 1924.
MS. LEE LOY: And the establishment of the harbor?
MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: 1929.
MS. LEE LOY: And then the establishment of the airport?
MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: 1929.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you so much, Uncle Pat. For me, I have to stand with my
community. They've been there long before any of this, and they will continue to
be there. They're homestead. They can't be gentrified. Their lands are held in
trust under the Hawaiian Homes Act, and so they'll continue to be there. And so
what I heard loud and clear is people no ask. People no come talk to them. What
helps enhance our Native Hawaiians in that area?
Currently, the port of Hilo is going through a harbor expansion. They never talk
to the lessees of the warehouse that will then be transformed into expansion of the
pier. So we're going to see more people be displaced and need industrial lands.
The area KIAA, Kanoelehua Industrial Area—stop giggling Uncle Pat—State
Department of Land and Natural Resources and Hawaiian Home Lands. And so I
find it really ironic that a trust that is supposed to empower and rehabilitate Native
Hawaiians is actually stepping on them along with the State.
As a planner, I absolutely understand zoning and rational nexus and evaluation of
how things transform communities, including the conditions of approval and the
SMA process. But this one's a little close to home for me because our homestead
community just a mile down the road has been there long before the original plan
of 1968, the General Plan of '71, the CDP of'75, a rezoning of'81, and now a
current General Plan of'89. And so there's a lot going on down in Keaukaha, and
I've said this many times on the dais: We have carried. We heard one testifier
today: hapai. Hapai the airport. Hapai the harbor. Hapai the wastewater
treatment plant. Yeah.
This one's tough for me, John, but I'm going to be saying no. I've got to stand by
my community because plenty times, nobody even went to ask. In fact, nobody
did. Thanks, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Council
Member Kagiwada.
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MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair, and thank you for sharing, Council
Member Lee Loy. Deputy Darrow, can I ask you a question? It was actually me
who asked about the zoning and the intent of the General Plan, but has Hilo the
first Hilo CDP in 1975, have we ever had an action committee for our CDP?
MR. DARROW: I'm not sure. I don't believe so.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. For me, this is one of the biggest issues here. Hilo
does not have an action committee, and so people do not know what's going on.
They don't have support from the County for giving their input. And so we have
other places around the island that have this support and Hilo does not, including
the homestead communities. So, to me, this is one of the biggest issues here, is
that they were not included, as Sue said. And I think one of the reasons why is
they have no standing in the same way that all the other communities have on the
island.
So that really—I've been saying this for the last year and a half, and to me this is
a result of AP (action plan), because they would have known and not be in this
situation if they had reached out to the community when they started looking five
years ago. And this is a horrible position now; they spent all this time and money,
and the community really doesn't want it. And they would have known this if we
had a community action group that could give input. Sorry I'm getting upset;
there's a lot of emotion here today.
The other one thing I want to say is when I first saw this plan and I was told that
the General Plan was already planning to rezone that triangle, which includes both
the Big Island Coffee Roasters and this land, I believe, when I look at it on paper,
it makes a lot of sense. But if you actually go there and you are there and you're
going into the entrance of a very special place on our island, you're not going to
go through and just look in one direction. This is a whole area when you're
entering. And so, to me, while it seems to make sense on paper, I don't know that
it makes sense when you're actually there in person. So, at this point, I'm also
leaning to voting "no" on this, and I'd like to hear from my other colleagues.
Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Council
Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I think the moment of enlightenment for me
was last month at Council when Aunty Laurie came and said that, "Hey, nobody
knocked on my door. Nobody asked. Nobody told me what the plan was so that I
could make plans for my future." And so that rubbed me the wrong way in so
many ways, because prior to being on the Council, the work that I did was
communication and community outreach. And I can respect and appreciate the
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applicant going through this process, but before you even start that process, you
engage the community, the stakeholders, that are potentially impacted. That in
and of itself needed to happen before all of this rezoning had been requested.
I remember that area when Ponds was Harringtons. My dad would pay me five
bucks to do the hula, and I would pick all the cheese off the escargot. On the
weekends, almost every other weekend, I'm taking my kids and sometimes I will
join them: We'd jump off the guardrail into Ice Pond. I will park at Lili`uokalani
and I will run all the way down to Richardsons and back.
I think to myself as I pass all of the industrial development that is there: "Wow!
They got it wrong. They got it so wrong." And here we have, at this moment, an
opportunity to maybe get it right this time. I just cannot support this request. I
understand you want to relocate your business. I know that there was so much
time and effort on your end put into finding the best location, but this location is
not it. It goes beyond potentially displacing these local establishments, and these
establishments are important because they contribute to the character that makes
Keaukaha and the Hilo community so special.
I want to preserve some of that. Right? I want to preserve some of that. So I'm
going to be supporting my colleague who represents this district, and stand by our
community and say no. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. I'm going to go to
Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: I really appreciate the passionate comments from my
colleagues here. We've had a day of rough ones after yesterday, a very long day.
Yeah,just everything Ms. Kierkiewicz was sharing reminds meI was actually
born on this side and grew up down these ways a little bit, but it was really
hanabata days so I don't have as many memories.
I appreciate you bringing up all the years of the different plans, but what resonates
more with me is the history of the environmental degradation. And it's actually
now termed "environmental racism"when industrial and airports and harbors and
ports and wastewater treatment facilities and oil refineries and all these things are
put in areas of indigenous people and land allocation.
And so I really wish we could go back and change that but we can't. But this is
an opportunity today to say no. And the General Plan,just because it's the
General Plan doesn't mean it's right. It doesn't mean it is ideal land use. It
means that there are people that decided in a room, looking at pages and pieces of
flat paper, that this looked like this on a thing. But it doesn't mean it's the best,
greatest use for that piece of property, or in alignment with the current utilization
of that area.
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And sitting at Ponds and looking at the turtles and koi and watching the kids play
has become one of my favorite means of self-care, other than going to temple,
when I'm in Hilo. And just the thought of that being at all degraded;
unfortunately, sir, I recognize it's not your intention. And you are in a rock and a
hard place because you need to find another place to go. But I don't think this is
the place for you.
And you, sir, purchased a piece of property years ago, resort zoning. Ironically,
I'm going to recognize you can't get anything upzoned to resort, really, in very
many places anymore. So it's a rock and a hard place, but I don't think I can be
—
I can't support this today. I also—Mr. Pipan, it's not convincing that a car lot
would be across the street from cold ponds. Water rolls downhill and it will go
towards the other water most predominantly. So that doesn't guarantee that from
a pavement or a parking lot or whatnot that things won't land in the ocean or in
those sacred areas.
So, from a fundamental place of protecting what's left of this entrance to
Keaukaha and trying to ensure that it remains in the hands of the people who have
stewarded it, and that we can do what we can to ensure the legacy of what
families appreciate there is protected and perpetuated. I recognize the irony; the
property could be sold still in resort zoning, and then we'd get back here and it's a
hotel or all these other things. Another beauty and joy of this job. But my
apologies, sir; I won't be supporting this today. And once again to the Planning
Department, we can get that General Plan. But without an action committee and
people actually getting to participate, I won't be supporting this today. So I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Villegas. Checking in quickly
with Kona. Council Member Evans, any comments on this one?
MS. EVANS: I'm very pleased by the discussion we've had. I'll be voting "no,"
but I just wanted to let the person who's put a lot of energy into doing this, I do
follow the logic that was presented by the Planning Department and how they
came to the conclusion. And, yes, you could follow that, but one thing that I
found here, being on the Council, I think the big challenge is some of these ideas
and proposals will go through the Planning Department and then into the planning
commission. And the planning commission meets during the week, and a lot of
people don't even know what their process is and what they do, and why they
should show up to the planning commission. And then, all of a sudden, it ends up
in the Council.
And I would have to say I think Chair Inaba hit it spot on, that when it comes to
the Council, we're here to listen to the people. It is a public hearing, an
opportunity for people to weigh in. Yeah, it's unfortunate there was not a lot
more weigh in before it got to us. And you're kind of part of the process we have
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that I'd love to see changed and more community engagement before it gets to us.
But I truly believe what my colleagues and everybody's spoken of. I agree with
their thoughts, and for that reason, I'll be voting "no." Thank you, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Just quick summary thoughts. Usually, I feel like these discussions
happen around open space or undeveloped land going to residential or industrial
or commercial. Today, we have land that's already developed, and the question is
whether we change the zoning that allows for a use that currently wouldn't be
allowed. But I do appreciate, Deputy Director, you providing that history. Look
where the General Plans have gotten us; sorry to say it. They're good documents
and they might have prevented some things, but look at where we are in Kona and
in Puna and in Hilo. In areas where there's concentrations, we have issues.
So I'll just wrap up. I'll be supporting the Council Member's decision of the
district, and do want to mahalo the public for coming to testify because your
voices were heard. And if not at previous hearings, we did get to hear you today.
So I'll be voting against passage of this bill.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Anyone else? Council
Member Galimba and then Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Chair. I think it's a little bit academic at this point.
I think you can see where things are going, and I do reallyI mean I feel sort of
badly that you had to go so far into the process to get to this point. And it's sort
of ironic that we all voted for it in Committee, and now it's that's kind of hard.
But the community has come out against it, and probably that would not bode
well for your business even if it were approved.
As people have said, it looks good on paper. I mean, next door to it are other
industrial properties, and I think that was why we made that decision. And I do
definitely hear you about there not being any place else for you to go. I mean,
there is but it's hard to find a place that would be appropriate in Hilo, and I think
that is a problem. We might not like looking at industrial places; warehouses; and
car lots, although we all love new cars of course. So that's, I think, something
that I think we have to be careful that we not forget what the realities are of living
in a city; you need to have city infrastructure.
Where I live in Ka`u, you don't have to have a car lot because there's nothing
there, and that's the way we like it. But if you live in the city. So there does need
to be industrial areas, and so I think we need to think really carefully in our
General Plan and make sure we have areas for your business to go to because we
doI do value Kias. I mean, Kia is a leader in EVs, which we need. We need to
do an EV transition desperately, and Kias are one of the best. They're very
affordable. You see Kias everywhere; very popular. I was looking at them. I
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may still even buy a Kia EV yet. They're going to be surprised because I drive a
Ford F-350 right now. But, yeah, I guess I just wanted to sort of recognize your
difficulties. We do want to support the necessary businesses in our community.
So it's a tough one for me to change my vote, but I guess I will be. Thanks.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. While I do appreciate today,
there's a few things, sort of numbering them. One, there's a number of small
businesses in this room who showed up. I'm a small business owner, and I
appreciate small businesses. They're the backbone of our community. And
you're each here for a different purpose. The beautiful thing about today was
seeing our process work. Our small businesses came in; they voiced. We have a
small business trying to grow. We have another small business behind them who
is doing, in his mind, what it takes to be a small business. Each of you is trying to
promote growth in our economy and in our community in your own way.
I think it's beautiful that we've actually had this conversation and gotten to a
point here. And this is how our process works, and for a good reason; it gives
people the ability to come in and say, "yes," "no," "I don't like this," "I like this,"
"I want to see this happen." Our community spoke today. They're listening and
they showed up, and that's important for us to recognize. Perhaps we do things
differently next time. Perhaps we have the conversations needed. Maybe we shift
direction as a whole for our community. But I like what I'm seeing. This is a
beautiful collaboration of different folks in our community who don't usually talk
to each other. So, to me, this is good.
Jeff, did I hear you right? The CDP for Hilo hasn't been updated since 1975?
MR. DARROW: Correct.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: So almost 50 years old. I'm just going to
say 50 years is a long time. I think Suisan was groundbreaking before our
General Plan even came into existence. And I've heard that from a testifier in the
past, so thank you for clarifying. I was looking at our General Plan,just trying to
get some background.
I'm going to read this quote from the General Plan, and then I'll just leave it alone
already: "Government has responsibility to identify, understand, forecast, protect
and promote local economic sectors and to balance economic growth with desired
environmental, social and other objectives of the community. Government has
many policy instruments available to influence and guide developments,
investment, and operation of private and public interests.
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"The economy, however, should not be considered as the primary focus of the
General Plan. The planning process is geared towards the achievement of a
higher quality of life for the residents of the County. Working towards the goals,
policies, and standards of the economic element are only one aspect of
accomplishing this desired end." That's from our General Plan.
I'm going to use that today because the community is saying, "We understand
economy. We understand business. We understand what we're trying to do
today, but this isn't what we want to see for our community." I'm going to leave
it at that because that's a County document. That's a guiding light for how we
grow and how we make decisions. That's also a good, to me, wrap up today for
all of us to understand the decision in front of us and why we're coming to it
today.
I do want to recognize our businesses in the back who came in. And you spoke
for your aunty, correct? Yup. And I watched her almost cry, and I know what
that means because I've been through similar things. It's like losing a baby when
you lose a business. But it's also not our job to tell the landlord what to do with
the tenants that are in the building. I think it's important to know. But I really
appreciate the emotion I saw from her, because it's like losing a child when you
lose a business. So thank you. Thank you for everyone being here today. This is
not an easy decision. And I appreciate each of your perspectives, and I appreciate
the discussion we've had today at the Council as well. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, go ahead, Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Sorry, it's just kind of burning in me. There's a lot of
reference made to General Plan and different community plans. These plans are
meant to serve as guides to help folks in our position, on the commission, in the
department, help guide our decision. But we do not have to adhere to what is in
those documents. It is our job to evaluate every single application, every single
request that comes before us. And for us to evaluate is what is being requested
the highest and best use of that property. And I think in this situation, the request
before us is not the highest and best use. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. I'm going to take
this opportunity to wrap up the discussion and also add that with respect to
rezoning, and this has come up quite frequently having to do with the time
extensions, is we are not rezoning for a car dealership. We are rezoning to
industrial. And that means we are saying that this property is appropriate for all
of the uses in the light industrial section of the Code.
And so this isn't about this business versus that business. It's about, over time,
looking at the surrounding area, is this a use—are all of these uses things that we
think are reasonable for this area? I was reminded of that recently regarding
another matter, and so I did go and look and say, "Okay, what are all the uses,
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then?" And frankly, there are some but I'm not comfortable seeing right across
the street from Ice Pond. So this isn't a ruling about Aloha Kia. This is a ruling
about are all the industrial uses appropriate in that location, and I can't say that I
feel that they are. With that said, I think we have enough to go forward with the
vote.
MR. DARROW: Council Chair?
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, go ahead.
MR. DARROW: I would like to respond, if I could.
CHR. KIMBALL: Make it brief,please.
MR. DARROW: I will. The Planning Department really takes the General Plan
as well as the community plans to heart, and it's almost considered as a sacred
document to us. And the reason why is because the people of those areas and the
island have put that plan together, and it's been approved by Council as the
appropriate document to guide us in our decisions for land use and direction. And
that's why we put so much emphasis on those documents when we do make our
decisions. We
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Go ahead.
MR. DARROW: There's two things, yeah. One is our current General Plan is
open at this time for comments. So I do want to encourage people that testified
today to also comment on the General Plan in relation to what happened today in
regards to that particular area, so that can be documented and considered moving
forward, and the other areas that they may consider.
Lastly, in this particular request, because it's in the SMA, any use that is
proposed, regardless if it's permitted in the zoning, would still have to go through
an SMA permit, which is a public hearing before the planning commission. So
it's not just allowing all of the uses in that. It would have to get approval and
public hearing for the additional uses. Thank you for the opportunity.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you for that clarification, Deputy Director, and for the
important reminder to everyone that the updated General Plan is open right now
for public comment. And we're operating off of the 2005 plan right now. So
these things are lasting for a long time, and they are considered very strong
guidance. And we certainly take that guidance into consideration as well as the
recommendation of the planning commission. So I appreciate you highlighting
the importance of the public's participation in the generation of that document.
I do want to get us off this, but real quickly, Council Member Lee Loy.
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MS. LEE LOY: I'm going to take this a little differently, Chair.
Motion to Postpone: Ms. Lee Loy moved to postpone Bill 87 indefinitely.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
MS. LEE LOY: Chair, on the motion to postpone indefinitely. Thank you, Chair.
I know the rules. I'm actually pulling this one out because I want to recognize
that I have to put a community back together after times like this. And I don't
want to walk out of this room feeling like winners and losers. In essence, John,
and you know this, it basically kills the matter, right. But I think it gives us an
opportunity to still reconnect, still talk story, still look at other options for how we
do grow economy here in Hilo, and especially in that area.
I also recognize that when my colleague mentioned very eloquently about we're
going to a designation, in this particular one the SMA really would have
controlled that, right. Couldn't be anything else unless it was this. And I think it
gives us an opportunity to talk story a little bit more; really,people lean in on the
General Plan, as Mr. Darrow mentioned, with all these land use levers and
switches that we have. And so I am asking for that because it gives me an
opportunity so that we can really reconnect the community after something like
this.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy.
MR. HENRICKS: I just thought it'd be helpful to interject. This is not a motion
that's used very often. So,just so that the applicant, the department,people of
interest, understand what this motion means, I can read directly from our rules,
rather than interpreting it. Would that be
CHR. KIMBALL: That would be great.
MR. HENRICKS: Good for the Council too?
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes. Thank you, Mr. Clerk.
MR. HENRICKS: "When a question is postponed indefinitely, the same shall not
be acted upon again or revived at any subsequent meeting of the Council which so
disposed of such questions unless by consent of the majority of the Council. This
motion indicates that the Committee or Council declines to take a position on the
main question and the adoption of the amendment effectively kills the main
motion. The motion must be seconded, is debatable . . ."yada, vada, vada. So the
brunt is the first part, that it effectively kills it and should not be acted upon again
unless there is a consent of the majority.
CHR. KIMBALL: Just to clarify again for everyone, is that"acted upon" in this
term or in perpetuity?
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MR. HENRICKS: I read it as, well—and bills don't really carry over that far in
the future anyway, and they're also, at some point, the Planning Department
might be concerned about the Council acting upon a bill that the planning
commission hadn't seen for years. So there's other considerations. But in here it
says, shall not be revived at any subsequent meeting of the Council which so
disposed of it. So that would be this Council.
CHR. KIMBALL: Okay. Thank you for the clarification. All right, we'll go to
Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: So, if we vote "yes" on this motion, it could be brought back in the
next term because it's a new Council?
MR. HENRICKS: I think that's a very nuanced question because of again the
other things I mentioned about other planning matters, when the planning
commission's recommendation and director's recommendation that conditions
might expire for other reasons. And also—you've been here. Bills do cross over
from one term to another, but not typically with this kind of a duration of a whole
year before the next term comes in. So I wouldn't anticipate the next CouncilI
don't know what the next Council is or what they might do, but trying to revive
this particular Bill 87, as amended to Draft 2, into that discussion. But it would
appear to be possible through the rules.
MR. INABA: All right, thank you.
MR. HENRICKS: But there's other considerations that would take place too,
beyond this rule itself.
MR. INABA: Lots of discussion. Going back to Chair Kimball's comments
regarding all of the permitted uses of light industrial, I can't support this. If it's
possible that it could be brought up in January of 2025 exactly as we're seeing it
today, that's not okay with me. So it's a"no" on postponement. I'd like to vote
on the main motion, which would be to pass it.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kagiwada on the postponement.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. I'll be supporting my colleague on this. I
understand her wanting to work with community on it, and I don't see a threat, if
you will. So I think it's a tool in the toolbox that can be used to try to bring the
community together. So I'll support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Council Member
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, on the postponement.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Given the Clerk's comments, Mr. Darrow, if
it did come back January 2025, would the Windward Planning Commission,
would their ruling still hold at that time?
MR. DARROW: If the request was exactly the same. But I can be honest with
you: In all the years I've been working with the Planning Department, I've never
seen a bill that was postponed indefinitely come back. What we would probably
do is request for it to go back to the planning commission just to review it because
it'll be a new commission if the commission had changed, and then bring it back
up.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you.
MR. DARROW: Thank you.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Chair, I think I'm going to concur with
Mr. Inaba. What I felt today was a decisive listening to the community and
setting a bar so it's very clear what's going on. But the postponing indefinitely
feels different and it is different. So I'm going to be siding with or voting in
accordance with what I heard from Mr. Inaba today. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Any
further discussion on the postponement? Council Member Evans, checking in
with you.
MS. EVANS: Chair?
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, go ahead, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. I'm going to be voting "no" on the postponement. I
don't want to lead anybody into false hopes that they can change. I think there's a
lot of things in play, like the General Plan being updated, this need to have a lot
more community engagement, and the other thing is the owner. If the owner
decides they want to come into a rezone, maybe the owner has to come in and ask
for a rezone. But this, as presented, this use and this great discussion we've had
with the community I think lends itself to we just shouldn't be postponing this
bill. So I will be voting "no." Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. I'm going to move to the
question on this matter. A roll call vote, please, Mr. Clerk.
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Vote on Motion to The motion to postpone Bill 87 indefinitely failed by the
Postpone: following roll call vote:
Failed
Ayes: Council Members Kagiwada and Lee Loy —2.
Noes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Villegas,
and Chair Kimball —7.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Please, again, a roll call vote on the main unless there are
any final comments. Okay. Let's go for it. All right. Roll call again, please.
Vote on Bill 87: The motion to pass Bill 87, as amended to Draft 2, on first
Draft 2 reading and adopt Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions
Failed Committee Report No. 39 failed by the following roll call
vote:
Ayes: None.
Noes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you to our applicant and Mr. Pipan.
MR. PIPAN: Mahalo. I'll be sticking around for Bill 101 as well.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yeah, so actually,just for everybody, we're going to do 101
now and then I'm going to give everybody a break, because we've been sitting
here for a while.
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Bill 101: AMENDS SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO DISTRICT ZONE MAP),
(Draft 2) ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983
(2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY CHANGING THE DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION FROM AGRICULTURAL–3 ACRES (A-3a) TO SINGLE-
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL–20,000 SQUARE FEET (RS-20) AT HILO,
HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY: 2-4-079:002
(Applicant: Constance Imamura) (Area: 23,012 square feet)
The Windward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation for
this change of zone request, which would allow the applicant to subdivide the
property into two lots to accommodate an existing dwelling. The property is
located at 1212 West Kawailani Street, Waiakea Homesteads, South Hilo.
Reference: Comm. 590.2
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba(B/R)
Approve: LAAC-43
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to pass Bill 101, Draft 2, on first reading
and adopt Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions
Committee Report No. 43. Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder.
CHR. KIMBALL: Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Yes, we did have discussion at the Committee hearing
on this rezoning. Again, it was to carve out a piece of the property. Pretty
straightforward unless the applicant's representative has anything to add at this
point. For anyone who has questions, I think we might be ready for the vote.
Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Anybody has questions for the applicant or applicant's
representative or the department on this one?
MS. EVANS: Chair, I have a question for the department.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: On Section 2 of the Draft 2, there's language in here that I think is
standard language that you put in these resolutions. I just wanted to know, this is
Section 2, Subsection 2, it's on page 2—isn't that interesting: two, two, two—it's
under—you have an "A"that says, "Protection of the public from the potentially
deleterious effects of the proposed use . . . ." How do you evaluate that when you
look at the fact that you're going to go from one resident on three acres to RS-20,
which means you're going to have, what, seven, eight homes, potentially?
(Note: At this time, Planning Deputy Director Jeffrey Darrow
came forward to address the members of the Council.)
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MR. DARROW: Aloha, Council Member Evans. At our last discussion, we had
made it known that the applicant was only requesting for one portion of the
property to be rezoned to residential, and the remainder to remain agricultural. So
it's only creating one residential lot.
MS. EVANS: So it's in the title for me. I'm not quite seeing it. Is it in the title
that it's three acres minus 20,000 square feet? Is that a minus sign instead of a
dash? Because, the way I read it is you want us to change it from A-3a to RS-20.
MR. DARROW: Correct. And then if you just a little further in the bill, it has
the metes and bounds of the area that will be rezoned from agricultural three acres
to residential 20,000 square feet, which is a total of 23,012 square feet.
MS. EVANS: So, basically, it's the to know what's really being done by this,
you have to look to the legal description
MR. DARROW: Correct.
MS. EVANS: To understand. So we're not approving the whole entire property
being RS-20? If I look at the tax map key in the future, will it—it won't beI
guess what I'm saying is that impact of this is we're taking it out of A-3a. We're
actually giving them the ability to do RS-20 in the future, even if they're only
doing one right now. Because if I look at the tax map key for whatever, it's going
to show the whole entire thing now is RS-20. Am I right in assuming that or
wrong?
MR. DARROW: That would be incorrect, Council Member. It would be the
map reflects the visual depiction of the zoning, which would be approximately I
think a little over three acres or four acres remains in FA three acres. And then
the remainder of it will be RS-20, which is a total of 23,012 square feet. So it
ends up being a type of dual zoning.
MS. EVANS: Okay. I think that's important to know because I've never seen
this before. It's my first one. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Chair, I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. With that, we'll proceed
to the vote. All those in favor of adopting Bill 101, Draft 2, at first reading,
please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 101: The motion to pass Bill 101, Draft 2, on first reading and
Draft 2 adopt Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions Committee
(Approved) Report No. 43 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you again, Director, for being here and Mr. Pipan.
Recess: At 3:03 p.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 3:16 p.m.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Council to return to the order of business.
of Business:
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Order of
RESOLUTIONS: Resolutions.
Res. 287-23: URGES THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR TO REQUIRE THAT ALL BOARD
AND COMMISSION MEETINGS PROVIDE VIRTUAL ACCESS FOR PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION, LIVE VIEWING, AND POST-MEETING VIEWING
Seeks to ensure maximum levels of involvement, transparency, and accountability
of government activity.
Reference: Comm. 497
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba
Approve: GOEAC-84
(Note: Comm. 497.18, from Council Member Holeka Goro Inaba dated
November 21, 2023, transmitting proposed amendments to Res. 287-23, was
circulated.)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to adopt Res. 287-23 and Governmental
Operations and External Affairs Committee Report No. 84.
Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada.
CHR. KIMBALL: Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Mahalo. We did have some good discussions with the
Administration on this, and there are some amendments today.
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Motion to Amend: Mr. Inaba moved to amend Res. 287-23 with the contents
of Comm. 497.18. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. KIMBALL: Vice Chair Inaba, on the amendment.
MR. INABA: Just adding a last"WHEREAS." It reads that the Office of the
Mayor is requested to provide us a report regarding its progress for virtual access
for public participation, live viewing, and post viewing by March 31", in line with
the budget process, so that we can see that hopefully at the beginning of the fiscal
year we'd be in a good position to get these things going. And it gives the
Administration six months to look at those that currently do and do not have these
remote virtual access for the public. And then, sorry, there is also on the back
side corrections to misspellings or errors in the Exhibit A that shows which
boards and commissions currently do and do not offer virtual access. So I ask for
your support on this amendment.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. On the amendment, Council
Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes,please. I do believe—on the back of
the amendment, correct, 497.18?
MR. INABA: Yeah.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I did ask for some rewording on some of our
boards and commissions, and I do appreciate that being taken care of as well.
Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. On the amendment. I will be
supporting it. I really do appreciate there being a very clear deadline, reasonable
deadline, for the Administration to respond and let us know about feasibility to
implement this. A very important request by the Council that's also very much
supported by the community. Were we able to get confirmation from the Mayor's
office if they're able to do this by that time frame? I think it's more than enough
time, but it is holiday season. And so I just want to make sure that they're
comfortable with this.
CHR. KIMBALL: You may respond, Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Beyond the conversation that we had where they represented, there
was no further conversation than that. But, yes, they were indicating that they
could provide us an update by March.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, sounds good to me. And they'll be getting a copy of
the resolution anyway, so they'll know what the deadline is. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kierkiewicz. Anyone else on
the amendment? Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Res. 287-23 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 497.18 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Vote on Motion to Mr. Inaba moved to suspend Council Rule 23 to waive the
Suspend Council holdover for the substantive amendment of Res. 287-23.
Rules: Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following
(Approved) voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: We will go forward on the discussion of Resolution 287-23, as
amended.
MR. INABA: Thank you. We did have good discussion. We have some ongoing
projects outside of this as well, not just for relooking at Code and how we might
be able to incorporate it, but also looking at how we (inaudible) staff our boards
and commissions. So a lot of effort going into making sure that our boards and
commissions are representative, they're fully staffed, and that our public has
access to the meetings no matter where they may be on this island or in this
world. So I ask for everyone's support on this resolution, as amended. Thank
you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any further conversation? Seeing none, all those
in favor of adopting Resolution 287-23, as amended, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 287-23: The motion to adopt Res. 287-23, as amended to Draft 2,
Draft 2 and Governmental Operations and External Affairs
(Adopted) Committee Report No. 84 was carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Villegas,
and Chair Kimball —8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 328-23: URGES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP
KEY: 5-6-001:062, KNOWN AS OLD COAST GUARD ROAD, AND OTHER
ADJACENT FEDERAL LANDS AS MAY BE NECESSARY, SITUATED IN
THE AHUPUA`A OF `UPOLU, DISTRICT OF NORTH KOHALA
The County seeks to acquire property to provide secure, safe, and legal public
access to the Honoipu/Puakea portion of the Ala Kahakai trail system, including the
Mo`okini Heiau and birth site of Kamehameha I.
Reference: Comm. 557
Intr. by: Ms. Evans
Approve: LAAC-40
(Note: Comm. 557.14, from Council Member Cindy Evans dated November 27,
2023, transmitting proposed amendments to Res. 328-23, was circulated.)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Evans moved to adopt Res. 328-23 and Legislative
Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Report No. 40.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. I want to offer an amendment.
Motion to Amend: Ms. Evans moved to amend Res. 328-23 with the contents
of Comm. 557.14. Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: On the amendment, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. This is just in the `BE IT RESOLVED." After we
had the discussion about we need to make sure the road is in fair condition when
we hopefully can finalize an agreement for the transfer, that I'm going to make
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sure that our honorable congressman and the head of the parks department and the
Department of the Interior get our resolution, a copy of it. And so I added them in
the `BE IT RESOLVED."
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Any further discussion
on the amendment? Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Res. 328-23 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 557.14 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Vote on Motion to Mr. Inaba moved to suspend Council Rule 23 to waive the
Suspend Council holdover for the substantive amendment of Res. 328-23.
Rules: Seconded by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and carried by the
(Approved) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Back to the main motion, adoption of Resolution 328-23, as
amended. Any further discussion? Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: I just want to thank the community for showing up this morning,
which seems like a long time ago, and how they really supported and I think
really articulated well why this is important that it comes to the County. So thank
you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Any further discussion
on this resolution? Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 328-23: The motion to adopt Res. 328-23, as amended to Draft 2,
Draft 2 and Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 40 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Kimball—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 337-23: AWARDS A PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION MAINTENANCE FUND STEWARDSHIP GRANT TO THE
FRIENDS OF AMY B.H. GREENWELL ETHNOBOTANICAL GARDEN
Approves a grant of$171,370 to the Friends of Amy B.H. Greenwell
Ethnobotanical Garden, a 501(c)(3)nonprofit organization, to continue providing
land stewardship and cultural education for properties in Kealakekua(Tax Map
Keys: 8-2-013:002, 003, 014; 8-2-014:043 and 8-2-015:059), pursuant to
Section 10-16(h) of the Hawaii County Charter.
Reference: Comm. 569
Intr. by: Ms. Galimba
Approve: LAAC-41
Motion to Approve: Ms. Galimba moved to adopt Res. 337-23 and Legislative
Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Report No. 41.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: I ask for my colleagues' support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any additional comments? Seeing none, all those
in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 337-23: The motion to adopt Res. 337-23 and Legislative
(Adopted) Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Report No. 41 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
Res. 341-23: CREATES ONE NEW PERMIT SYSTEMS COORDINATOR POSITION AND
ONE NEW FACILITIES PROGRAM MANAGER POSITION FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Establishes two new positions to (1) maintain the EPIC permitting system and
(2) manage the Building Division's Design and Engineering, General Services, and
Repair and Maintenance sections.
Reference: Comm. 573
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-110
Vote on Res. 341-23: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 341-23 and
(Adopted) Finance Committee Report No. 110. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Bill 83: AMENDS CHAPTER 24, ARTICLE 10, DIVISION 5, SECTION 24-280,
SCHEDULE 28, AND SECTION 24-281, SCHEDULE 29 OF THE HAWAII
COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION), RELATING TO NO PARKING AT
ANYTIME UPON CERTAIN STREETS OR PORTION OF STREETS AND
PARKING PROHIBITED DURING CERTAIN HOURS ON CERTAIN
STREETS
Amends and adds provisions to prohibit parking at all times and adds provisions to
prohibit parking between the hours of 8:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. for certain portions
of Alii Drive that front Kahalu`u Beach Park.
Reference: Comm. 498
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy (B/R)
Postponed: November 1, 2023
First Reading: November 15, 2023
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to pass Bill 83 on second and final
reading. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Lee Loy.
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MS. LEE LOY: This is in Ms. Villegas's district. Any comments, but I'm asking
for my colleagues' support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thanks. I think we've had lengthy discussion on this, and I
just ask for continued support in moving this along.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Villegas. Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: There was concern regarding just the hours for nighttime fishing,
being that the restriction zones would start at 8 p.m. Understanding kind of where
we need to shift with the park right now. Is that something that, if there really is
pushback and adverse effects on the fishing community or those trying to access
between sunset and midnight, that we might be able to revisit this? And this
might be something joint between Police and DPW (Department of Public
Works). But I just want to address a concern that was brought up by community.
(Note: At this time, Public Works Director Stephen Pause came forward
to address the members of the Council.)
MR. PAUSE: Good evening. Steve Pause, Director of Public Works. I just
conferred with Reid. Yeah, no, I was aware of that. It came up in conversations
earlier. I think the intent here is to just prevent the overnight parking. So if we
were to need or if it was warranted to shift that 8 p.m. to a little bit later, that's
something we could clearly consider. I think when we did this, as well as we had
another—what we were looking at is just to prevent the overnight parking.
Again, I think we could be amenable if that becomes an issue.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Director. I'll be supporting it as is, and if we do need
to revisit, we can revisit. But I think it does—eight o'clock is, for anybody who
sets up after sunset, enough time to wrap up their things and head out. So we'll
go from there for now.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yes, and just quickly to clarify, these signs have been up for
four months, six months already?
MR. PAUSE: That's correct. I have the ability to put them up, and then it needs
to pass through Council for final approval. But, yes, they have been up for at
least three or four months, correct.
MS. VILLEGAS: And my point being that they have been up, and there have
been no complaints of such things. And having worked with a park at Kohanaiki
and the sensitivity to nighttime fishing in that area, and that is actually a County
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park, that shoreline is not easily accessible without access through the gates. So I
just want to express my sensitivity to those concerns thank you, Mr. Inaba—and
point out that we haven't had any issues. But if or when we did or do, I would
look forward to working with DPW and Parks and Rec. (Recreation) to help
rectify. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Villegas. Checking in on Kona.
Council Member Evans, looks like your light may be on.
MS. EVANS: Yes. I want to do a follow-up to a comment made by
Director Pause, and that is you have the authority to put up signs, but you still
have to come in front of the Council. And would this be on any County road?
MR. PAUSE: I believe that is exactly accurate, yes.
MS. EVANS: Wow! That's great. I'm glad I know now. I've got one to come
to you on. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. That sounds like you'll
be printing some signs, Steve. All right, any further discussion on this item?
Seeing none, all those in favor of approving Bill 83 at second and final reading,
please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 83: The motion to pass Bill 83 on second and final reading was
(Adopted) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
Bill 95: AMENDS CHAPTER 24, ARTICLE 10, DIVISION 5, SECTION 24-280,
(Draft 2) SCHEDULE 28, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION),
RELATING TO NO PARKING AT ANYTIME UPON CERTAIN STREETS OR
PORTIONS OF STREETS
Adds a provision to prohibit parking alongside a section of Old Mamalahoa
Highway that fronts the De Luz Quarry adjacent to an exposed lava tube.
Reference: Comm. 543.2
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy (B/R)
First Reading: November 15, 2023
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to pass Bill 95, Draft 2, on second and
final reading. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Asking for my colleagues' support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any further discussion? Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Just as a comment, there was testimony on this today regarding this
description, and in the future, if we might at least get a TMK (tax map key) or
something to really help orient us on a map, it might be helpful. But in support
and in following Chair Kimball's support of this. So thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in
favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 95: The motion to pass Bill 95, Draft 2, on second and final
Draft 2 reading was carried by the following voice vote:
(Adopted)
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 342-23: CREATES ONE NEW GRANT COORDINATOR POSITION, ONE NEW
PUBLIC SAFETY COUNSELOR POSITION, AND ONE NEW HUMAN
RESOURCES SPECIALIST II POSITION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
Establishes three new positions to (1) identify and evaluate potential funding
sources, (2) support employees and their families by maintaining a safe and
productive work environment, and (3) address the department's personnel
expansion.
Reference: Comm. 574
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-111
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 342-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 111. Seconded by
Mr. Inaba.
(Note: At this time, Police Major Reed Mahuna came forward to address
the members of the Council.)
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
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MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. There were some questions
regarding the positions at the last meeting. Thank you for being here today,
Mr. Mahuna. I'll lean to my other Council Members. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
Discussion? Any further questions? Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Is it Acting Deputy Chief Mahuna?
MR. MAHUNA: Yes.
MR. INABA: Thank you for being here. Just a question on the grant coordinator.
I know the Police Department has been getting a lot of grants lately, and great
work. So is this position to support an existing employee in that role and in that
kuleana, or is it—where is this position focused on?
MR. MAHUNA: So, right now, we have individual division and section heads
that do grants for their own for example, when we had a grant for two school
resource officers, I was at the time, this was many years ago, I happened to be the
acting captain out in Puna, and I was brought in to do that grant. So, basically,
you have people in the department that are trained, that look out for grants and
apply when they can.
In this case, we are now going to have a specialized person who is very good at
looking for and applying for grants. So we anticipate that our success rate will of
course improve, and what we can apply for will improve as well.
MR. INABA: Awesome. Thank you so much for being here today. Chair, I
yield.
MR. MAHUNA: Not at all. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Any further discussion on this one? Seeing none,
all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 342-23: The motion to adopt Res. 342-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 111 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
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Res. 340-23: CREATES TWO NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST IV
POSITIONS, ONE NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST V
POSITION, ONE NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST VI
POSITION AND ONE NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST VII
POSITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Establishes five new positions to maintain operational standards, increase vigilance
in cybersecurity, and focus on in-depth strategies to increase cyber maturity.
Reference: Comm. 572
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-109
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 340-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 109. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
(Note: At this time, Information Technology Director Robert Ewbank
came forward to address the members of the Council.)
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you for being here today,
Director. There were some questions last time, and I think you folks couldn't
make it down. I'll lean to my other Council Members for further questions.
Thank you.
MR. EWBANK: Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Are there questions for the Director from anyone? Council
Member Villegas, yes.
MS. VILLEGAS: Just a quick mahalo for fixing our email boxes so that we no
longer are constantly having full emails. Really appreciate it.
MR. EWBANK: I made a promise and I tried to follow through.
CHR. KIMBALL: You've been nominated for best-dressed director today. You
look good too (inaudible), but I'm sorry, he's got the suit and tie. Yeah. We'll
take the vote later today and let you know what the outcome is, but you've been
nominated.
MR. EWBANK: Thank you, Chair and County Council.
CHR. KIMBALL: I just want to take a moment to mahalo Director Ewbank. He
and I sat down and had a really great conversation last week about his vision for
the direction of the department and some of the areas that you're working to close
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some gaps. I just want to say I was really impressed with our conversation. Even
though you're a Buckeye, I will forgive you for that. But, no, I think all of us can
rest assured that you're doing an excellent job ensuring that we're going to have a
functioning DIT (Department of Information Technology) division, and our data
in the County is going to be safe, which I think is another great part of these
positions that you're bringing in. So I just wanted to mahalo you and let you
know I really appreciate our conversation.
MR. EWBANK: Thank you, Chair. Likewise.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. There was a question as far as
terminology the terminology used in the resolution, "cyber maturity," and then
what the meaning of that was.
MR. EWBANK: Yes, sir. That is actually an industry standard terminology. I'm
reminded of what we saw earlier with our recipient of—our state champion, the
young lady that won the air rifle state championship. And she talked about if you
had asked her three years ago, would she ever experience this type of moment.
There was a maturity there. We're looking for the same type of maturity.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you. Thank you for the
clarification. Thank you.
MR. EWBANK: Sure.
CHR. KIMBALL: All right, thank you. With that, we'll move to the vote. All
those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 340-23: The motion to adopt Res. 340-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 109 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: I believe that's all for you, right, Director?
MR. EWBANK: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Council.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Have a great day.
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Res. 344-23: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR AND
OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE FOR
ONE GREENS MOWER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an approximate
monthly cost of$1,200, to be used at the Hilo Municipal Golf Course.
Reference: Comm. 576
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-113
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 344-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 113. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
(Note: At this time, Business Manager Reid Sewake and Golf Course
Administrator Troy Tamiya, Parks and Recreation Department, came
forward to address the members of the Council.)
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here today. There were
some questions that arose at Council I think regarding lease amounts and the cost
of the equipment. So maybe you could give us a little background and then go to
questions from the members if there are any. And thank you for being here again.
MR. SEWAKE: Yeah, sure. Reid Sewake, Business Manager. To my right, I
have Troy Tamiya, Golf Course Administrator. Yeah. So these requests are for
five-year lease agreements, which will essentially be added to our fleet of mowers
for golf course daily maintenance, and happy to answer any questions.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I'm going to yield. Thank you.
MS. GALIMBA: I just wanted to get more info (information)because—well,
before us is GP400. I looked up GP400. It's quite a lot less than 68,000, even a
diesel. So I'm just wondering what is it. Why is it so much? I looked upI
couldn't find too many quotes for GP400 diesel, but in the UK (United Kingdom),
there's one fora diesel for—and I don't know if it's a diesel. It's not a diesel.
The gas is like 18,000 on the Mainland. The diesel in the UK is 30,000 pounds,
which is $40,000 more or less, still quite off from 68,000. So I'm wondering
why.
MR. SEWAKE: The way we got this amount is pretty much based on historical
bids that went out. I believe our last greens mower that we obtained was in the
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neighborhood of 55,000, around there. For this particular mower, we did get a
quote and that's how we got our figure of 65,000. So that includes shipping and
tax as well. And it is a specialized equipment, yeah.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay. Maybe (inaudible) I wanted to find out more, like, yeah,
I would like to know the justification. So if this is specialized, is there a special
mower that you guys are buying in addition to the main part, because the main
mower doesn't seem that expensive?
MR. TAMIYA: I can answer that. Troy Tamiya, Golf Course Administrator.
The GP400 is a greens mower. On the golf course, there are greens. The grass is
cut at three-sixteenths of an inch. So nothing but something like that piece of
equipment would be able to cut it at that level. So a normal mower wouldn't be
able to do the job. We currently have two. One is broken. So that one greens
mower is cutting 20 greens, 7 days a week.
MS. GALIMBA: I'm not I mean, I totally understand the need to get new
equipment and all that.
MR. TAMIYA: It's a specialized mower and you can't rent it. It's not for rent.
And it's not really a piece of equipment that we can ask to borrow.
MS. GALIMBA: Yeah. But is this a single—did you guys get multiple quotes,
or is that just from one?
MR. TAMIYA: I think it went out to bid.
MR. SEWAKE: Oh, no. We got the quote just for the purpose of budgeting. It
still would need to go out to bid, and that would be handled by our purchasing
division. I mean, it's possible that the low bidder would be less than 65,000.
MS. GALIMBA: I see. Okay.
MR. TAMIYA: We would love to get it at 18, though.
MS. GALIMBA: Yeah. Can go on the internet and find that person that's selling
it for 18. And I mean shipping's only like four or five at the max. So I wish you
guys luck on that.
MR. TAMIYA: Thank you.
MR. SEWAKE: Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Vice Chair Inaba.
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MR. INABA: So the 1,200 a month, I think it comes out—are you estimating
$4,000 for shipping or ?
MS. GALIMBA: They haven't—
MR.
aven'tMR. INABA: How does that work? Because 1,200 a month across 60 months
comes out to
MR. SEWAKE: That monthly amount is kind of forecasted the interest rate ofI
think I used three-and-a-half percent. I know recently our interest rates have been
pretty good, even less than 2 percent. But, in understanding the market today, it's
still higher than that. So we entered three-and-a-half percent just to calculate the
estimate on the amortization over the five-year life of the loan.
MR. INABA: Okay. So 1,200 comes out to 72,000. So that 4,000 is the interest.
MR. SEWAKE: Correct.
MR. INABA: Got it. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Galimba, I assume you're done?
MS. GALIMBA: Yes.
CHR. KIMBALL: Your light's still on.
MS. GALIMBA: Oh, sorry. I guess I'm done, but I guess I would like to—is
there a way for you guys to come back and let me know what the results are?
MR. SEWAKE: Yeah, absolutely.
MS. GALIMBA: That would be awesome. Thanks.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: With all those questions in mind, if you
don't spend 68,000, then what happens?
MR. SEWAKE: Because it's a lease, we would just take that actual monthly
payments and put it in our budget for the next year.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor of
adopting Resolution 344-23, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 344-23: The motion to adopt Res. 344-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 113 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 345-23: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR AND
(Draft 2) OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE FOR
FOUR 60-INCH DECK ROTARY MOWERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an approximate
monthly cost of$1,350, to be used at the Hilo Municipal Golf Course.
Reference: Comm. 577.2
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-114
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 345-23,
Draft 2, and Finance Committee Report No. 114. Seconded
by Ms. Lee Loy.
(Note: At this time, Business Manager Reid Sewake and Golf Course
Administrator Troy Tamiya, Parks and Recreation Department, came
forward to address the members of the Council.)
CHR. KIMBALL: Any discussion on this item? Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. So, similarly, I would like to know more because
just looking at again the internet wait, I'm trying to find your total budget, what
you're asking for is somewhere the monthly cost of 1,350 before there was a
total cost of 77,000 for four mowers. And this is just the mower part that goes
behind, right? It's not the whole tractor. Is it a tractor too, or is it just the mower
part?
MR. TAMIYA: These are riding mowers.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay.
MR. TAMIYA: Yes.
MS. GALIMBA: It's a whole mower plus tractor. Because if you look up
60-inch deck rotary motor, it just shows the tractor part. So I was little confused.
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MR. TAMIYA: No, it's one piece.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. The amounts listed in the B-52, the total of 77,000, is
that for one or is that for a combined four?
MR. SEWAKE: That is for the combined four.
MR. INABA: Okay. All right, thank you. I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Again, this still has to go out, right? This is just an estimate.
MR. SEWAKE: Yeah,just an estimate. It still needs to go through our bid
solicitation.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay, thanks.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor please
say "aye."
Vote on Res. 345-23: The motion to adopt Res. 345-23, Draft 2, and Finance
Draft 2 Committee Report No. 114 was carried by the following
(Adopted) voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 346-23: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR AND
OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE FOR
ONE 5 GANG ROTARY MOWER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an approximate
monthly cost of$1,900, to be used at the Hilo Municipal Golf Course.
Reference: Comm. 578
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-115
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Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 346-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 115. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
(Note: At this time, Business Manager Reid Sewake and Golf Course
Administrator Troy Tamiya, Parks and Recreation Department, came
forward to address the members of the Council.)
CHR. KIMBALL: Discussion? Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: At this point, I'll just go "ditto,"yeah. I mean, this one's a
little closer. I think it was but it's still kind of off. So I would, yeah, love to see
what you guys actually come back with because we do want to get good value and
not get abused by our vendors. As a rancher, I'm very passionate about that.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. You are now known
at the mower expert on the Council.
MS. GALIMBA: Yes. Heavy equipment.
CHR. KIMBALL: Heavy equipment, okay. We'll just—yeah. And Ram trucks
or Borg? Okay. Ram trucks, okay. Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I have a question. Every day I drive into
town, and I see the signs in the grass just going bshk around the sign, yeah,
because you can't hit it with the driving or riding lawn mower. Do they make a
machine that actually goes, like, whoock, around it?
MR. TAMIYA: Not that I know of.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Wouldn't that be amazing?
MR. TAMIYA: Yes, it would actually.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. That's my random thought for
the day.
CHR. KIMBALL: There's opportunity, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. All right, any
further discussion? Yes.
MS. LEE LOY: Hi, fellas. Thanks for being here. Absolutely in support of the
purchase of all of this equipment for the golf course. Just wondering how much
we can maybe offset some of this through some other green fees or other things.
Is that possible?
MR. TAMIYA: Reid?
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MR. SEWAKE: Yeah, so, because they're a special revenue, we kind of have
to—we're kind of restricted year to year based on revenues we bring in. But in
recent years, the golf course has been doing pretty good as far as rounds. So we
are looking at budgeting some of the fund balance maybe to purchase needed
equipment.
MS. LEE LOY: Yeah,perfect. I just know it's a real popular course, and we
have amazing talent that comes off of that course through the junior golf program.
And by the way, what high school you guys went? I yield.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 346-23: The motion to adopt Res. 346-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 115 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 370-23: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF AN
ADA-COMPLIANT ELKAY WATER REFILLING STATION WITH
INSTALLATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
The donation from Keiki of Da Aina Foundation,with an estimated value of
$2,000, would be installed at the Kekuaokalani Gymnasium in Kailua-Kona.
Reference: Comm. 618
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Waived: FC
Vote on Res. 370-23: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 370-23.
(Adopted) Seconded by Mr. Inaba and carried by the following voice
vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
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Res. 371-23: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF AN AWNING
WITH INSTALLATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION
The donation from West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery Development and Expansion
Association, with an estimated value of$13,000, would be installed at the
West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery.
Reference: Comm. 619
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Waived: FC
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 371-23.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any discussion? Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: I'd just like to take the opportunity to mahalo the organization for
this donation. At the Veterans Day Celebration, we got to see it in use. And it
really does provide a lot of space for the community, especially on those days
where we go to recognize and pay tribute to those who served. It's a very nice
addition to the cemetery. So, for my district and for those in Kona, sending our
mahalo. And taking the opportunity as well for the last resolution to also thank
Keiki O Ka `Rina for their donation. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Vice Chair Inaba. Council Member Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder. All right. Anyone else? Seeing none, all those in favor please say
Ic aye.
Vote on Res. 371-23: The motion to adopt Res. 371-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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Res. 361-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO NORTH KOHALA
COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER TO ASSIST WITH EXPENSES
RELATED TO THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW BOAT CRANE AT
MAHUKONA WHARF
Transfers $4,160 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 9); and credits to the Department of Parks and Recreation,
Administration Other Current Expenses account.
Reference: Comm. 596
Intr. by: Ms. Evans
Motion to Approve: Ms. Evans moved to adopt Res. 361-23. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. This was an effort with the community working with
our Parks Department, and this is really going to help them. This money is to
help them with the valuation of the pier at Mahukona Wharf, serving the pier and
also evaluating and certifying this new boat crane that the community has put a lot
of energy and effort into making this happen. So it's my pleasure to support
them, and I ask for your support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Anyone else? Council
Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. This is really neat. I've
been to this area quite a few times. My family and I enjoy this spot. I have
always wondered about that big rusting metal object on the pier. I mean, it's neat
but I didn't expect to see something like this resolution come forward and looking
at putting a new one in. That's very interesting. I like that. So, well done.
Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Anyone else? Seeing none, all
those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 361-23: The motion to adopt Res. 361-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 343-23: CREATES ONE NEW ASSISTANT CONTROLLER POSITION FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
Establishes a new position to assist the Controller with the implementation of new
accounting standards statements and the new Enterprise Resource Planning system,
as well as address additional requirements for the Employee's Retirement System.
Reference: Comm. 575
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-112
Vote on Res. 343-23: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 343-23 and
(Adopted) Finance Committee Report No. 112. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Just a reminder, future Managing Director,
remind folks we need all resolutions and bills in by the 20'h for the January
meeting. Thank you.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Council to return to the order of business.
of Business:
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Res. 338-23: AWARDS A PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES
PRESERVATION MAINTENANCE FUND STEWARDSHIP GRANT TO
POHAHA I KA LANI
Approves a grant of$56,100 to P6h5h5 I Ka Lani, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit
organization, to continue providing land stewardship and cultural education for the
Waipi`o Valley Lookout in the Hamakua District(Tax Map Key: 4-8-004:006),
pursuant to Section 10-16(h) of the Hawaii County Charter.
Reference: Comm. 570
Intr. by: Ms. Kimball
Approve: LAAC-42
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Res. 338-23 and Legislative
Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Report No. 42.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Just asking for my colleagues' support for the continued work
of Jesse and Kulia up there at the Waipi`o lookout. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 338-23: The motion to adopt Res. 338-23 and Legislative
(Adopted) Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Report No. 42 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 339-23: CREATES ONE NEW CLERK III POSITION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
Establishes a new position to provide clerical support to the Administrative
Services Assistant and numerous Specialists in the department.
Reference: Comm. 571
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-108
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 339-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 108. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
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MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: The Deputy was here a few minutes ago,
and I've texted her but I don't see her. So if there's any questions for her, I will
go down and grab her and come back, but I don't have any at the time.
CHR. KIMBALL: Any further discussion on this item? Seeing none, all those in
favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 339-23: The motion to adopt Res. 339-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 108 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 347-23: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
CORPORATION FOR NATIONAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICE,
PURSUANT TO HAWAII REVISED STATUTES SECTION 46-7, FOR A
GRANT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
Allows for the receipt of$50,000 of federally-derived funds to provide community-
based training and regional education from local historians, cultural practitioners,
and other sources to AmeriCorps Volunteers in Service to America personnel.
Reference: Comm. 579
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-116
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 347-23 and
Finance Committee Report No. 116. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: I have her via text. If there's any questions,
I will have her come down, otherwise we can move this forward. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. I think we had a good discussion about this in
Committee. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor please say
Ic aye.
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Vote on Res. 347-23: The motion to adopt Res. 347-23 and Finance Committee
(Adopted) Report No. 116 was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 359-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO BIG ISLAND RESOURCE
CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR REIMBURSEMENT
OF EXPENSES RELATED TO THE 37TH ANNUAL BIG ISLAND PRO-AM
SURFING TRIALS
Transfers $1,500 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 4); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 594
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Res. 359-23. Seconded by
Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Discussion? Yeah, Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: I just had a question for Corp. Counsel, actually. J, sir?
CHR. KIMBALL: Corporation Counsel?
MS. KAGIWADA: Yoohoo.
CHR. KIMBALL: Assistant Corporation Counsel.
MS. KAGIWADA: J.
(Note: At this time, Assistant Corporation Counsel J Yoshimoto came
forward to address the members of the Council.)
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Deputy Corporation Counsel. I just have a
question on the CRF (Contingency Relief Fund)because I was told that we
couldn't reimburse our nonprofits for things after they've already happened if we
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hadn't even voted on it before it happened, and this is from September 2nd
reimbursing folks for an event that happened September 2nd. So I just want some
clarification for myself going forward for CRFs.
MS. LEE LOY: I might have a little to add to this.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay.
CHR. KIMBALL: Go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: I got a note from Council Member Kierkiewicz. They applied.
The paperwork kind of got lost in the shuffle. So the request was made and kind
of all the forms were filled out well before the event and was told it was okay, but
I'm not sure what you have.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. So had she cleared it with Corporation Counsel or ?
She already cleared it Corporation Counsel.
MS. LEE LOY: Yes.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay, all right. But for clarity going forward.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: For clarity, right, yeah, I believe Elizabeth Strance opined
in the past, right. The way the Code reads, it's before. But I thought the Council
was thinking about changing that or maybe clarifying that. But, basically, the
interpretation is still the same, yeah. But it sounds like this matter got—
MS.
otMS. KAGIWADA: Special circumstances and got—okay. Okay. I wanted to
make sure we weren't dealing with different things here.
CHR. KIMBALL: So I'll take a moment to clarify what Corporation
Counsel Strance and I have kind of agreed to as far as the interpretation of that
"before" component, which is that if the person receiving the funds has a
reasonable expectation that those funds will be delivered to them, that is what has
to happen. And what we're using as the measure of that is the contingency relief
form going to the department that will be distributing those funds. If that has
happened in advance of the event, then we're considering it to have met the
requirements of our Code and rule.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. And if something happens, it sounds like we can go to
Corporation Counsel and just explain if there's some
CHR. KIMBALL: It sounds like in this case that the paperwork had already gone
through.
MS. KAGIWADA: Oh, I see.
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CHR. KIMBALL: It's just that this final step of the resolution had not. But the
paperwork had already been done in advance of the event.
MS. KAGIWADA: Got it. Okay.
CHR. KIMBALL: So that's kind of—there has to be some reasonable
expectation before the event by the person receiving the funds. (Inaudible), for
our purposes, is the submission of the contingency relief form.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
MR. INABA: On that, I am working on that section of the Code. So, when we do
bring the bill forward, we can have a discussion on how we're going to take that
up. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: I just have a quick question because my staff has worked really
diligently, thank you so much, and received so many different answers under
different circumstances. But one question that I'm getting right now is our
understanding was that it was as long as the Mayor signs off prior to the event.
CHR. KIMBALL: I get to be the decider I'm the Presiding Officer—in this,
with the advice of Corporation Counsel. But the position that I'm going to take at
this time in terms of interpretation of the Code and our rules is that as long as the
contingency relief form paperwork has been submitted with all of the
documentation to the department in advance of the event, we are meeting the
spirit of the Code. That does not mean that the Mayor has signed off on it. The
full package of paperwork has been submitted to the department.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you. Duly noted and will move forward with that
understanding.
CHR. KIMBALL: Yes.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Minute follow-up. Does the department
have to approve, or just has to be submitted to?
CHR. KIMBALL: That was the concern, is that we have no control over how
long it takes the department to actually process it. And so it isour best intention
is to get it to them before the event. But, okay, despite all of that, I'm going to
conclude by saying, please try to get everything in and get it on the agenda in
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resolution form for us to approve before the event. This should be the exception,
not the rule. We're clear? We're clear, okay. To the matter at hand,
Resolution 359-23, any further discussion? All those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 359-23: The motion to adopt Res. 359-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 360-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PURCHASE WREATHS FOR THE WEST HAWAII
VETERANS CEMETERY-PU'U HO`OMAHA O NA POB KOA O HAWAII
KOMOHANA FOR THE NATIONAL WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA DAY
Transfers $1,500 from the Clerk-Council Services –Contingency Relief account
(Council District 6); and credits to the Department of Parks and Recreation,
Administration Other Current Expenses account.
Reference: Comm. 595
Intr. by: Ms. Galimba
Motion to Approve: Ms. Galimba moved to adopt Res. 360-23. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: I'm kind of way behind everyone else on this, but ask for your
favor—for your approval from my colleagues.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Vice Chair Inaba.
MR. INABA: I just would like to point out this is occurring at the West Hawaii
Veterans Cemetery on December 16''. So if anybody from the public does want
to go and help to put the wreaths out on every grave and in front of the
columbariums, I believe it's happening at nine o'clock that day. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you very much. Anyone else? I will just add, pertinent
to our previous conversation, this is also related to CRF. But do be sensitive to
the fiscal year overlap, and you can't reimburse for something that happened in
the previous fiscal year. That's a different scenario. Anyway, onto the item at
hand. All those in favor of adopting Resolution 360-23, please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 360-23: The motion to adopt Res. 360-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 362-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO NA MAMO HA`AHEO TO
ASSIST WITH EXPENSES RELATING TO AN ART SERIES USING
HAWAIIAN PLANTS
Transfers $5,000 from the Clerk-Council Services –Contingency Relief account
(Council District 3); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 597
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Res. 362-23. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: If I could share for a moment, I actually urged this nonprofit to
do this. They are pa`u riders for our Merrie Monarch Festivals and have been the
units for every single island and the court. And we all love that parade,
specifically for the pa`u units, but it's the lei making and the draping that they
have on the horses. And there is a very unique skillset that goes into making
those leis for the horses and the riders. And so I pushed and—you know Merrie
Monarch took a break because of COVID (coronavirus disease) and so did the
parade.
So we're back here now again, and I'm glad they're taking up the challenge. So I
really do want to thank, we all know her, Brittany Iyo, over at Parks Department;
Scott De Sa; and Lucas. They're with the nonprofit but I just look forward to that
art series that they do for them with this money, along with the ability to maybe
even grow capacity in that tradition of lei making for our pa`u units during Merrie
Monarch Festivals. So I do ask for my colleagues' support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Anyone else? Seeing
none, all those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 362-23: The motion to adopt Res. 362-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball–8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz– 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KIMBALL: I hear Council Member Lee Loy and Galimba talking about
riding in Merrie Monarch. We're going next year,right? All right, train your
horses, please.
Res. 363-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO NO NA `OPIO TO ASSIST NA
HOA O PUNA SOCCER WITH ITS NA HOA CUP TOURNAMENT
Transfers $7,500 from the Clerk-Council Services –Contingency Relief account
(Council District 5); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 601
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to adopt Res. 363-23.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Looking for everyone's
support. Rico was one of our testifiers this morning, the one who lost his voice. I
just really commend him for what he's done. He's offered the sport of soccer to
our youth. This last season, the Hilo High versus Waiakea High School game, if
any of you watched, it was an amazing game. It was pretty brutal because there's
two teams going head to head who really are all the same kids who've grown up
together. But the reason I'm saying, Hilo High ended up winning the game. But
a lot of the kids from Hilo High School actually come from Nawahi, and that's
where the charter school's kids go to play. That's the league they play under. So
I was watching that team; amazingly cohesive team. They did well. They went
on to the State champs. I don't think they won.
But what I'm trying to say is Rico has been the coach for those kids since they
were—and I remember them because they were playing soccer with my kids since
they were four or five years old. So to see him as a coach is amazing, but to see
his kids move on and what they've become and how good they are and how great
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of a team they are together really highlights what he does. So I'm glad to give
usually I'm kind of stingy with my CRF money, but for them, I know what he
does. I know what he does for the community.
And this last weekend or two weekends ago, this event at the Shipman Park, I
mean the whole park was just flooded. There's no parking available. Shipman
Park just totally locked out. I'm sure the fields were a disaster. Mo already
knows what's going to happen after the event, but it just draws so many people
and offers so much for our youth. So, looking for everyone's support but I just
wanted to highlight what Rico Ferrari does for our community, as well as his wife
and his kids. I mean just an amazing `ohana. So thank you for your support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Anyone else? Seeing none, all
those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 363-23: The motion to adopt Res. 363-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 364-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO NA MAMO HA`AHEO TO
ASSIST WITH EXPENSES RELATING TO AN ART SERIES USING
HAWAIIAN PLANTS
Transfers $2,500 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 4); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 602
Intr. by: Ms. Kierkiewicz
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Res. 364-23. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Again, really asking for my colleagues' support. So
happy to have Council Member Kierkiewicz kind of help stack the money in this.
And just to keep in mind, when you add it together it looks like a lot, but it is a
series. It's going to go from November through February, and then Merrie
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Monarch's later in April. So the intent really is to provide the series and then
have extra k6kua when it comes to our pa`u units. Asking for my colleagues'
support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy. Any further
discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 364-23: The motion to adopt Res. 364-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 365-23: AUTHORIZES THE FRIENDS OF FIRST RESPONDERS TO USE
CONTINGENCY RELIEF FUNDS FROM COUNCIL DISTRICT 7,
PREVIOUSLY AWARDED BY RESOLUTION NO. 217-23, FOR FIRST
RESPONDERS TRAINING IN WEST HAWAII
Funds would be used to cover expenses for refreshments, brochures, facility rental,
and guest speakers.
Reference: Comm. 603
Intr. by: Ms. Villegas
Motion to Approve: Ms. Villegas moved to adopt Res. 365-23. Seconded by
Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: This money had already been allocated, but then we had been
told that it wasn't in alignment with CRF spending, and so it kind of got put on
hold. And so now it's been identified that everything's in alignment, so I just ask
for my colleagues' support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Villegas. Any further questions,
discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 365-23: The motion to adopt Res. 365-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 366-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO PETFIX SPAY AND NEUTER
TO SUPPORT ITS SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS
Transfers $5,000 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 6); and credits to the Department of Research and Development,
Business Development account.
Reference: Comm. 604
Intr. by: Ms. Galimba
Motion to Approve: Ms. Galimba moved to adopt Res. 366-23. Seconded by
Ms. Kagiwada.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Just ask for my colleagues' support. Trying to get a handle on
our pet issues.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Council
Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Galimba, for doing
this. I will also be giving a CRF to this organization as soon as they schedule a
clinic in my district. I'm feeling a little helpless to some extent around this issue
with animal control, but this is something that we can do, a small thing, and I'm
happy to support. Thank you.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Anyone else?
Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
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Vote on Res. 366-23: The motion to adopt Res. 366-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Res. 367-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO HILO WOMAN'S CLUB FOR
ITS HOLIDAY MAGIC CONCERT
Transfers $3,000 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 2); and credits to the Department of Liquor Control, Public
Programs account.
Reference: Comm. 605
Intr. by: Ms. Kagiwada
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kagiwada moved to adopt Res. 367-23. Seconded by
Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Happy to support this family-friendly event with
`Apapane (Rising) String Quartet playing. It is a free event, although they are
asking for donations, to those willing to do that. It's at the Hilo Woman's Club
this Saturday evening at 6 p.m., and yeah. Any money that they raise will be used
to support education scholarships for students from Hilo. So, I appreciate your
support.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you, Council Member. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 367-23: The motion to adopt Res. 367-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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Res. 368-23: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM A
DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT AND CREDITS SAME TO A DESIGNATED
FUND ACCOUNT TO PROVIDE A GRANT TO PETFIX SPAY AND NEUTER
FOR ITS SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS IN RURAL COUNCIL DISTRICT 1
Transfers $2,500 from the Clerk-Council Services —Contingency Relief account
(Council District 1); and credits to the Department of Research and Development,
Business Development account.
Reference: Comm. 606
Intr. by: Ms. Kimball
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to adopt Res. 368-23. Seconded by
Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KIMBALL: Just joining my colleague from the Ka`u District in supporting
this program. All those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 368-23: The motion to adopt Res. 368-23 was carried by the
(Adopted) following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Bills for
ORDINANCES Ordinances (First Reading).
(FIRST READING):
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Bill 100: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Appropriates revenues in Federal Grants —Fiscal Year 2023 Volunteers in Service
to America Support Grant account($50,000); and appropriates the same to the
Fiscal Year 2023 Volunteers in Service to America Support Grant account. Funds
would be used to provide community-based training and regional education to
VISTA personnel.
Reference: Comm. 579
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Approve: FC-117
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Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 100 on first
reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 117.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. KIMBALL: Aren't you going to make a note of how cool it is that it's
Bill 100, that it's kind of a cool number?
MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Not this time since I totally screwed up the
intro.
CHR. KIMBALL: Okay. All right. Moving on. Any discussion on this one?
Seeing none, all those in favor please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 100: The motion to pass Bill 100 on first reading and adopt
(Approved) Finance Committee Report No. 117 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Order of
THE DAY the Day (Second or Final Reading).
(SECOND OR
FINAL READING): (Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Bill 96: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Decreases appropriations in the Housing Production account(-$17,324,559.46); and
appropriates the same to the following accounts: Kamakoa Nui LP-Construction
($2 million), Mental Health Kokua-Property Acquisition ($5.5 million), Hale O
Hawaii County-Volcano Construction ($300,000), Hale O Hawaii County-Hilo
Construction ($300,000), Ho`omalu at Waikoloa LP-Construction ($3 million),
OHCD-Infrastructure Development Kamakoa Nui ($5.4 million), and Hawaii
Island Community Development Corporation-Construction Mohouli ($824,559.46).
Reference: Comm. 560
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
First Reading: November 15, 2023
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 96 on second
and final reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
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CHR. KIMBALL: Any discussion? Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: I just want to thank the Clerk for taking it all the way down to
the 46 cents.
CHR. KIMBALL: Thank you. All right. Any further discussion? All those in
favor,please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 96: The motion to pass Bill 96 on second and final reading was
(Adopted) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Bill 97: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-51, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2023 TO JUNE 30, 2024
Adds the Public Works Lanikaula Street Rehabilitation Kilauea Avenue to Manono
Street—County project($1,250,000) and the Lanikaula Street Rehabilitation
Kilauea Avenue to Manono Street—Federal project($5 million)to the Capital
Budget. Funds for this project shall be provided from General Obligation Bonds,
Capital Projects Fund—Fund Balance and/or other Sources ($1,250,000) and
Federal Grants Receivable ($5 million), to rehabilitate roadway pavement.
Reference: Comm. 561
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
First Reading: November 15, 2023
Note: Requires 2/3 vote of the entire
membership to amend,pursuant to
Section 10-6(e), Hawai`i County Charter
Vote on Bill 97: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 97 on second
(Adopted) and final reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried
by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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Bill 98: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Increases revenues in the State Grants —Kua Bay account($198,220) and
West Hawaii Ocean Safety account($245,194); and appropriates the same to the
Kua Bay —State Salaries and Wages account and the Hapuna Beach—State Salaries
and Wages account, for total appropriations of$778,220 (Kua Bay) and $1,264,297
(Hapuna Beach). These additional funds would be used for costs associated with
ocean safety at Kua Bay and Hapuna Beach.
Reference: Comm. 562
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
First Reading: November 15, 2023
Vote on Bill 98: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 98 on second
(Adopted) and final reading. Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried
by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
Bill 99: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 23-50, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2024
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —Traffic Safety Training Project account
($11,479.88); and appropriates the same to the Traffic Safety Training Project
account, for a total appropriation of$166,479.88. These additional funds would be
used to support the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney's Traffic Safety Training
Proj ect.
Reference: Comm. 563
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
First Reading: November 15, 2023
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Vote on Bill 99: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to pass Bill 99 on second
(Adopted) and final reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and carried
by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
REFERRALS FOR The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Referrals
EXECUTIVE for Executive Session.
SESSION:
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
OTHER The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Other
BUSINESS: Business.
(There were none.)
ANNOUNCE- The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business,
MENTS: Announcements.
(There were none.)
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 4:33 p.m., Mr. Inaba moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Council Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Kimball—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Council Member Kierkiewicz— 1.
Excused: None.
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CHR. KIMBALL: We are adjourned at 4:31 p.m. Mahalo, everyone, for the
good work today, and have a safe and happy evening.
JAN 2 4 2024
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