HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN CRCOC 2023/12/19 (2022-2024) Committee on Communications,
Reports, and Council Oversight
18th Session
West Hawai`i Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawai`i
December 19, 2023
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Communications, Reports, and
ORDER: Council Oversight was called to order at 9:04 a.m., in the Council Chambers,
Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Chair
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Vice Chair
Ms. Cindy Evans, Member
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member(came in later)
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member(via videoconference from Hilo,
came in later)
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member (came in later)
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 322.2: QUARTERLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING REPORT: JULY 1, 2023 —
SEPTEMBER 30, 2023
From Housing Administrator Susan K. Kunz, dated November 29, 2023,
transmitting the above report pursuant to Section 11-19 of the Hawai`i County
Code.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 322.2.
Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
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CHR. VILLEGAS: Do we have Administrator Kunz? Should we take a short
recess and wait for her, or table it and go to the next one? Oh, here she is,
welcome. No worries. Good morning, Susan.
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Susan K. Kunz came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. KUNZ: Good morning, everyone. Sorry for my tardiness.
CHR. VILLEGAS: No worries. The floor is yours.
MS. KUNZ: Okay. So, I am providing a quarterly report per the ordinance
number 23-20. This is going to be for the period of July 1st, 2023, to
September 30th, 2023. So, for this period, we did not see any activity with excess
credits reporting. So, you can see that the report reflects 1,301.2 credits, same as
the last period. And the other information that the Council has asked for is
populated in exhibits two and three. I'm sorry, two. There was a change in the
rental housing number, we added Waikoloa Family Affordable which was
completed during this period. They are not fully leased as far as we know, but
they are in the process of actively leasing. So, we're looking at an additional 110
units to the rental housing inventory.
There was also a change to the senior rental housing list of projects. You can see
that we added Sacred Hearts Affordable Housing Project towards the bottom of
the list. So that's for an additional 12 units, and now a total of 981 units for
senior rental housing.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Ms. Kunz.
MS. KUNZ: And I think those were the only changes that—yes, that we made.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay, thank you. Alright, and let the record show that
Council Member Galimba is with us now. And with that, I'll open up to any
questions or comments from my colleagues on the Council. Council Member
Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. So,the 122 rental units constructed in Waikoloa,
where does it appear on your housing report?
MS. KUNZ: Okay, so the 122 additional units includes the Waikoloa Family
Affordable for 110. So, you will see that on the rental housing inventory list.
Waikoloa Family Affordable is the second from the bottom.
MS. EVANS: So, the reason it's not 122? You have only 110.
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MS. KUNZ: So, 110 is for Waikoloa Family Affordable, and the other 12 is
Sacred Hearts. So, it's a total number.
MS. EVANS: Oh, I see.
MS. KUNZ: Yeah. And the Sacred Hearts is listed on your senior rental housing
list.
MS. EVANS: Got it. Okay, thank you. And I have one more question on the—
you have the report on what people are doing with these tax credits and no
activity. Is that kind of normal?
MS. KUNZ: Tax credits, or housing credits?
MS. EVANS: Yeah, these affordable housing excess credits. July to September
30, there was no action.
MS. KUNZ: Well, it's not that we're not working with developers. It's just
during this period, there were no excess credits earned.
MS. EVANS: Okay. Do you anticipate in process that we're going to see more
excess?
MS. KUNZ: We're actually working with the developer called Mailani. So, I
think that's the next one that you're going to definitely see in the next reporting
period. I believe he purchased five and half credits, but he redeemed them to
meet his affordable housing requirement. So, you're going to see that activity on
the report during the next period.
MS. EVANS: Okay.
MS. KUNZ: Yeah, we were really careful to try and recognize when this activity
was recorded, and which period to report it in. So, it is going on right now, but it
wasn't completed by the end of September. So, it will be reflected in your next
report.
MS. EVANS: Alright, good. Alright, thank you. I yield.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Anyone else? Council
Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Thank you, Administrator. So just wondering,
you had in a report at one point that said we needed an additional 6,600 rental
units for our county. I think that was in 2020, and it was by 2025. Is that correct,
the time period?
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MS. KUNZ: So, the number of affordable housing units that we recognize is a
need by this community was actually 10,000—a little bit more than 10,000, by the
year 2025. So those are actually, that's data that's being reported in the Hawai`i
Housing Planning Study. That's where I got that number.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay, and that's from 2020?
MS. KUNZ: 2020.
MS. KAGIWADA: Yeah. So, I guess my question is, how far along have we
gone? Because this is all the units available. But how many have been built or
made available since 2020?
MS. KUNZ: So, when this Administration came on board, there were
approximately 1,200 units that were being worked on. So, we say it's in the
pipeline. To date, in fact just as of last week, we updated our activity numbers so,
it's looking like 6,992 units that are actively being worked on right now. And I
can report that about 5,000 of that number is here in West Hawai`i, Waikoloa
through the Kona area.
MS. KAGIWADA: Wait, 5,000 of them?
MS. KUNZ: Approximately 5,000 of the 6,992 units is in West Hawai`i, and the
remaining number is on the east side. So, it could be Puna, Hilo area.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Alright. But as far as how many have been completed
since 2020 that people are moving into, are those those Waikoloa Family and the
Sacred Hearts?
MS. KUNZ: So, we've been populating completion numbers since 2021, when
we came aboard. You know, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it hasn't
been huge numbers. I want to say, two to three hundred units per year is what
we've been producing. What we've anticipated, especially for this year, and
maybe a little bit higher for next year. But maybe a few hundred units per year is
what we're seeing. It's not fast enough.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. I just was trying to gage where we are within those.
Thank you so much. Appreciate that.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Anyone else? I also
want the record to show that Council Member Kaneali`i—Kleinfelder has joined
us. Mr. Kaneali`i—Kleinfelder, any comments or questions from your end?
MR. KANEALI`I—KLEINFELDER: No. Just good morning to you all. Thank
you.
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CHR. VILLEGAS: Good morning. And if no one else has any then I'll come
back to you, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Sony.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Oh, okay. You're good? Fantastic. Alright. Then I'll just
take a couple minutes to express my gratitude, Ms. Kunz, for bringing this
forward to us every three months. And for—I don't have the prior reports with
me, but I see some consistency now in how it's being presented and being able to
follow that rental housing comes before senior housing. So, it's just easier to
track and compare to the prior reports. Thank you to you and your team for
putting that together. I also am grateful that, ironically, we don't have any more
or new outstanding affordable housing credits. Because what this represents,
essentially on our balance sheet for building homes, could be upwards in nine
million dollars of homes that don't need to be built, because the credits are
already there.
So, I'm grateful to hear of the projects that are being built. And congratulations,
the blessing for that 110 units in Waikoloa. My apologies, I wasn't able to attend
but I understand Council Member Inaba was. And those units are really nice
units, and I'm excited to see those being filled. In today's paper there's already
an article about Mr. Benioff and his wife Lynne, and their contribution of a few
hundred acres, and the contribution being specifically allocated for more
affordable housing. So, the train has left the station, and it's headed for a good
location. And I also want to be sensitive to my colleague, Ms. Kagiwada, and her
desires for more affordable housing on the east side as well. But I am grateful
that the majority of these units are being built on the west side because most
predominately what we hear is that people are working here and having to
commute in order to work on this side.
So, providing more affordable housing on this side of the island, in comparison to
what I'm told is a housing market that's more affordable on the east side. So
somehow, we're going to get to the sweet spot of the equitable distribution, and
opportunity, and getting people into homes they can raise their families in. I also
just want to—as we navigate the holiday seasons, send out a heart felt blessing,
and prayers for comfort and support for those families who have lost their homes
and who are navigating this first holiday without a place to live. So, as we
continue to move in the right direction of providing shelter and homes for the
families that reside on the Big Island,just being sensitive to those who are
navigating this loss under that tragedy. So, with that, I think we're good to go
with this report. But thank you for being here with us today. With that, I'll go
ahead and take the vote to close file on Communication 322.2. All those in favor?
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Vote on Comm. 322.2: The motion to close file on Comm. 322.2 was carried
(Filed) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i—Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Kimball, and Chair Villegas—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Lee Loy— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Mr. Clerk.
Comm. 628: 2023 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE PUBLIC ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND
NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION COMMISSION
From Mayor Mitchell D. Roth, dated November 17, 2023,transmitting the above
report pursuant to Hawai`i County Code Section 2-218, providing a detailed
summary of the purchasing history and status of lands acquired through the fund,
a report on management and stewardship of acquired lands, and the updated
prioritized list for proposed acquisition of land.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Communication 628.
Seconded by Ms. Kimball.
MR. HENRICKS: Madam Chair, if I could just note that Mr. Hamana Ventura is
available from Property Management, Department of Finance if you have any
questions, or if you'd like for him to provide comment on the report. Available
by Zoom.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Okay. Yes, that would be wonderful if we could bring him
in. And also,just for the record, Council Member Lee Loy has joined us. Is
Mr. Ventura then going to jump on?
(Note: At this time, Property Manager Hamana Ventura came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. VENTURA: Aloha Chair, can you hear me?
CHR. VILLEGAS: Yes. Aloha, Hamana. Thank you for being here.
MR. VENTURA: Aloha Chair, and members of our committee, and happy
holidays. We'd just like to take this time to thank our commission for moving
forward in an expedited way to provide the annual recommendations to our
mayor. And thank you to the Administration for forwarding. And so, this year
Christmas basically comes early, this is a procedural process. But it's vital that
part of our open space funds, that the annual report comes to you, the Council,
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and then moving forward, you have the opportunities to bring forth resolutions to
tell us to move forward with acquisitions. Mahalo.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Fantastic. Thank you, Mr. Ventura. With that, we'll open up
to any questions or comments from my colleagues. Council Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you, Chair. I just also want to take a moment to thank
the members of the commission. You know, we've had this transition from
oversight of the PONC (Public Access, Open Space, and Natural Resources
Preservation Commission) process from Parks and Rec to the Finance
Department. We want to definitely thank Hamana, and then of course, Maxine,
who is retiring from the County. Without their guidance and leadership, I think
we wouldn't have seen this real pivot in the commission. The commissioners that
are on the board right now are very active, have done a lot in terms of setting a
standard of protocols and procedures for the committee to make evaluations. As
well as providing a lot of support to community members either wishing to
nominate properties, or to apply for the stewardship grant program. So,just
wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their hard work in
continuing to advance and develop this program further. Thank you, Chair. I
yield.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Kimball. Council
Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair. Yeah, ditto. I would like to thank
everybody who's worked so hard to bring us these recommendations, as well as
give us all the information we need so we can choose to go forward with pursuing
these PONC properties. I just want to say I'm extremely grateful that my district
will have its first possibility of getting a PONC property, and that it's actually
going to be interesting because it's a water shed property up in the more like the
hills, the mountains, as opposed to most of our coastal properties. So, it should be
really interesting I think, and looking forward to bringing a resolution before you
all. Yeah, but thank you everybody that's worked on this, Hamana and Maxine,
and Jean from Corp Counsel, and everybody, of course, on the commission.
Thank you so much.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Kagiwada. Council
Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. I noticed in here it said that we can go into public
folders to look at ongoing list of what has been done by previous PONC. What is
the name of that public folder? It doesn't mention that in terms of finding what
other years, past previous years. What's the name of that public folder?
MR. VENTURA: Council Member Evans, I'll get that information to you.
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MS. EVANS: Thank you. I appreciate that. And I just want to say, I look at this
report and it's just pretty amazing. Very, very, thorough, a lot of work, so, I just
appreciate all the effort. Whoever put all this information together, it's really,
really, good, and I'm very excited to see two of the three are in my district. And
so, I'm real excited about this. So anyway, thank you so much, and happy
holidays. I yield.
MR. VENTURA: Mahalo.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Evans. Council
Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Chair. Hamana, I just wanted to ask one clarifying
question. On the report, under summary of authorized land acquisitions, you have
those two that are there. And I think they were both authorized this year, right?
MR. VENTURA: Not sure. I'm on the road so, I'll have to get back to you on
that one as well. It's hard, you know. We don't drink and drive and we don't
look down at our laptop and drive at the same time.
MS. GALIMBA: Alright. I'll get with you later. Thanks. Thanks very much.
MR. VENTURA: Thank you.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Thank you, Council Member Galimba. Anyone else? Okay
with that, I just want to also express my gratitude, Mr. Ventura. We worked
together on a number of different properties and resolutions. Some have come to
fruition, some have not for extenuating circumstances or prioritization. However,
I continue to be deeply grateful for the properties that have been purchased in
District 7, and are continuing to be navigated in District 7, and throughout the
island in general. Congratulations to the closing of the purchase and the
collaboration with the land trust for the Mahukona purchase. Wow, to finally see
that come to fruition and be closed is amazing.
I'm also grateful to see on here the `Anaeho`omalu Kapalaoa property. I had been
notified about the potential of that property. It seems just incredibly rich and
historic and culture resources. As well as this coastline and potentially some of
the ponds that exist there. Absolutely priceless for being purchased and available
for the public in perpetuity. My one quick question here is, I see there are three
properties on the 2023 prioritized list. And I thought I remembered the prioritized
list, and the list of properties being longer in prior years.
MR. VENTURA: I'll check on that and get back to you.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Did we lose you?
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MR. VENTURA: Nope, I'm still here. I will check on that and get back to you.
MR. KANEALI`I—KLEINFELDER: Chair, I can hear Mr. Ventura. He said he
would check on that and get back to you. Can you hear Hilo?
MR. VENTURA: I can hear you.
MR. KANEALI`I—KLEINFELDER: I can hear you, Mr. Ventura. I think we
may have lost the audio connection with Kona.
MR. VENTURA: Ah, ok. We've got to pay the bill.
MR. KANEALI`I—KLEINFELDER: Ok, thank you. I'll let them know, Hamana.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Hamana, for some reason we can't hear you in chambers, but
your voice is coming through on the computer. So, we're going to check our
systems. Should we take a quick recess? We'll get this set up because I do just
have a couple more questions. So,just ask for everyone's patience. Hamana, if
you would just remain either on the line or on standby for us to reconnect to you,
that would be wonderful. And with that we're in recess.
Recess: At 9:27 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 9:45 a.m.
CHR. VILLEGAS: We're taking this meeting out of recess at 9:45 a.m.
Mr. Ventura, are you still with us?
MR. VENTURA: Can you hear me?
CHR. VILLEGAS: Yes, yay. Thank you to our tech team here, Scott and
Charlie, for getting us back online and everything connected. Okay,just quickly
going back to my question, Mr. Ventura. And I was able to pull up my 2021
annual report to the mayor of the PONC program. My question begs to, in the
2021 report there were 26 properties on the prioritized list, and on this year's,
there are only three. So, I'm just wondering what happened to the other
properties? Did they fall off the list? I know that a couple were in stages of
negotiation. Can you explain how the list shrunk so significantly in the last two
years?
MR. VENTURA: Sure, because each year the list that comes to Council are only
the submissions made to the commission for that year.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Gotcha. So, unless they bring it back every year, they don't
continue on the list.
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MR. VENTURA: They always will be on the list. That's the nice thing is that
once you're on the list, you will always be on the list. And that's part of what we
were able to clarify to our suggesters, is that it's not necessary that you show up
every year to submit. Once you submit, you make the list.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Gotcha. So, the list is still in existence, it's just not included
in this report per say, only the prioritized properties.
MR. VENTURA: This is the ones that came through the commission this year.
And these are their recommendations. And so, for 2023, we had three
submissions.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Gotcha. Thank you. Great, that's what I wanted to ask
about. So, for instance, the Keauhou Bay property that's been on the list for a
number of years you're still working on that one, correct?
MR. VENTURA: No, that's not correct. Actually, we bought Keauhou Bay
about a month back.
MS. VILLEGAS: Oh, my goodness. Well, that's incredible news. It closed.
How did that miss the newspaper?
MR. VENTURA: We've been scrambling. Once we got through the acquisition
it was all hands-on deck to make sure that we met the closing deadline for
Mahukona. So, we were in scramble mode to make sure that we did all of our due
diligence, provided all of the documentation, and monies to get to Mahukona.
MS. VILLEGAS: Well, I am so grateful. This becomes probably one of the best
Christmas presents ever for myself, personally and professionally. And also, for
our community and for all the people that enjoy Keauhou Bay. And for the
opportunity that provides for extra space as the usage there grows, and access to
our shoreline, it's just priceless. Thank you, Hamana. That's incredible news.
I'll look forward to seeing some kind of a press release. And you know, hope to
get to work with you on a blessing as we did for Puapua'a property. And thank
you for catching me up, and reclarifying, all the other properties continue on the
list. They just aren't necessarily included in the report that we have before us
today. Thank you, Hamana. Happy Holidays. Please drive safe, and we'll be in
touch after.
MR. VENTURA: Thanks to all of you. Mahalo.
CHR. VILLEGAS: Alright. Aloha. And with that, if we have no other questions
or comments. All those in favor of closing file on Communication 628, please
say "aye."
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Vote on Comm. 628: The motion to close file on Comm. 628 was carried
(Filed) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i—Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Kimball, Lee Loy, and Chair Villegas—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 9:50 a.m., Ms. Kagiwada moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. Evans and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kaneali`i—Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz,
Kimball, Lee Loy, and Chair Villegas —9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. VILLEGAS: With that, we close this committee.
Approved:
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