HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN LAAC 2024/05/14 (2022-2024)Committee on Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions
26th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
May 14, 2024
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions
ORDER: was called to order at 10:47 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by
Mr.
Holeka Goro Inaba, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr.
Holeka Goro Inaba, Chair
Ms.
Michelle M. Galimba, Vice Chair
Ms.
Cindy Evans, Member
Ms.
Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Ms.
Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms.
Heather L. Kimball, Member (came in later)
Ms.
Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms.
Rebecca Villegas, Member (came in later)
Absent & Excused: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 761: REQUESTS FORMATION OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE
PURPOSE OF REVIEWING APPLICATIONS AND DEVELOPING
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 NONPROFIT
GRANTS-IN-AID AWARDS
From Council Member Holeka Goro Inaba, dated March 1, 2024.
Postponed: March 19, 2024
(Note: There is a motion by Ms. Kimball, seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz, to close
file on Comm. 761.)
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; and
Comm. 761.1: From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated March 5, 2024,
transmitting the applications from eligible nonprofit organizations.
; and
Comm. 761.2: From Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions Committee Chair
Holeka Goro Inaba, dated May 6, 2024, transmitting the Ad Hoc Committee's
recommendations for grant funding in the amount of $2,027,500 to nonprofit
organizations for inclusion in the County of Hawaii Operating Budget for Fiscal
Year 2024-2025.
CHR. INABA: Thank you, Mr. Clerk. I've asked Council Member Lee Loy to
give us just a quick overview of the communication and the recommendation, and
then we'll hold this matter over for two weeks until our next meeting where we
can discuss and answer any questions that the body may have. So, Council
Member Lee Loy, if you will please?
MS. LEE LOY: Yes. Thank you, Chair. In accordance with Chapter 2,
Article 25, Section 2-139(a)(1)(A) of the Hawaii County Code, $2.5 million is
appropriated to the Hawaii County Waiwai Nonprofit Grant Program. On
January 31, 2024, the application submittal deadline, the Department of Finance
received 196 applications. 60 applications were determined ineligible due to
incomplete packet information. A total of 136 applications were determined
eligible with requests totaling $4.792 million. In comparison, in 2023 there were
155 eligible applications with requests totaling just over $5 million for which the
County fully funded 75 requests totaling $2,497,500.
On March 19, 2024, at the meeting of the Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions
Committee, members of the Ad Hoc Committee were Council Members Jennifer
Kagiwada, myself, Sue Lee Loy, Council Member Galimba, and Holeka Goro
Inaba as Chair.
On April 1, 2024, eligible applicants and the grading rubric were distributed to all
Council Members for scoring. On April 23 through the 25, 2024, in compliance
with the Hawaii Revised Statutes, Section 92-2.5, and Hawaii County Code
Chapter 2-25, the Ad Hoc Committee met to review scored applications and make
final award recommendations. Attached hereto as Exhibit A, is the Ad Hoc
Committee's recommendation for fiscal year 2024-2025.
On a personal note, I do want to thank members of the Committee. We
deliberated a lot and actually went back and forth every lunch hour I think it was
for three days straight, and I really do want to thank each and every one of our
staffers who helped keep us on task, make sure we were online looking at the
applications together, and quickly finding them through search engines. So, it
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really has been an honor and a privilege to do this work alongside my colleagues.
So, thank you very much. Mr. Inaba, I yield.
CHR. INABA: Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy, for that presentation. I
was just having a quick conversation with the Clerk. This year we took up the
process a little bit differently and that rather than planning to insert each of these
awards into the budget as line items as we've done in the past, we were going to
award via resolution, as we do with other County grants. And to kind of be
consistent there and we did have support from the Finance Department there. But
rather than holding this matter over, the Clerk advised —Mr. Clerk, perhaps if you
want to just share what you've shared with me instead?
MR. HENRICKS: You're doing great.
CHR.INABA: Alright.
MR. HENRICKS: But yeah, just normally it's a three meeting process. This is
the second. The findings were just presented, those all been made aware of. And
then the third meeting is for deliberation decision making. My understanding is
though there's going to be a presentation, a resolution with the award
recommendations in it that will be up for discussion, perhaps revision, and then
approval. So, that would be your third meeting. So, because of that, that's
eminent, I believe that the Committee, if it so desires, could vote to close file on
this today and then move forward with the resolution as its action item.
CHR. INABA: Thank you. So, I think that would just expedite agendizing one
less item, being that we would still have the opportunity to make changes to that
resolution. And if there's no concern from the Committee, then we can just close
out on this and then we would have the resolution at Council at our next set of
meetings and then we can take up all of the discussions there. I'll take any
questions though. So, Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Yeah. Question. So, the report; the presentation, is it possible to
get a copy of it? The background report.
MS. LEE LOY: Of the scoring rubrics?
MS. EVANS: No, of the Ad Hoc Committee and meeting all the requirements of
Code. I'd really like to have what you
CHR. INABA: So, Communication 761.2 outlines all of the meetings that were
held and then the actually proposed recommendations, which would then be
reflected in the resolution that we'd see.
MS. EVANS: Good. Okay. Thanks for the clarity. Thank you.
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CHR. INABA: Any other questions? Council Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah. I'm not sure if you have this somewhere else, but I
would also request at that time to have, of the eligible applicants, those that did
not receive funding and some indication as to the reason that they were not
awarded, just for completeness of deliberations.
CHR. INABA: For sure. We can definitely provide the list of those who were
not awarded. The lift of providing, there were just numerous reasons why and
I'm not sure if it's going to be possible to provide something that's substantial
enough to explain the reasons in a document. But for anyone who isn't awarded,
we're more than happy to have our staff work with them and share the specifics of
why they were not recommended for award.
MS. KIMBALL: If I may?
CHR. INABA: Yeah.
MS. KIMBALL: The two datapoints that I'm particularly interested in is those
that where upon further investigation found to be ineligible because maybe
potentially it was covering costs that our grant-in-aid don't allow coverage of or
they scored below that, I forget what you said the threshold, was it 70? They
scored below 70. Those are the two key datapoints that I'm interested in.
CHR. INABA: Sure. So, we can definitely provide everyone who isn't being
recommended, and whether they were disqualified for being under 70 versus
being disqualified for either public purpose issues or overhead costs, yes. We can
provide that in those three sections. Council Members?
MR. HENRICKS: Chair Inaba?
CHR. INABA: Yes.
MR. HENRICKS: I'd just exercise caution. Some of this discussion sounds like
it could certainly veer into deliberations and perhaps we'd best reserve for when
the resolution is before the Committee or Council.
CHR. INABA: Got it.
MS. EVANS: It's fine. I mean, I can wait. I just want to know if you had an
appeal process and if not, we can talk about that when we do the resolution.
Thank you.
CHR. INABA: We can take that up via the resolution. Okay. So, with that,
thank you. And we'll prepare those documents as exhibits to the resolution. So,
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there's a motion on the floor to close file on Communication 761 and all
accompanying communications. All those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 761: The motion to close file on Comm. 761 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy,
and Chair Inaba — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Villegas — 2.
Excused: None.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 517-24: AUTHORIZES THE ACQUISITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY BY EMINENT
DOMAIN OF TAX MAP KEY: 8-6-008:011, SITUATED AT WAIEA,
DISTRICT OF SOUTH KONA, COUNTY AND STATE OF HAWAI`I, FOR
CONTINUED USE OF THE WAIEA CONVENIENCE CENTER BY THE
SOLID WASTE DIVISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
MANAGEMENT
The County seeks to acquire approximately 2.282 acres of land to continue to
operate the Waiea Convenience Center, also known as the Waiea Recycling and
Transfer Station.
Reference: Comm. 874
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend adoption of Res. 517-24.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. INABA: We have Deputy Corporation Counsel, as well as our DEM
(Department of Environmental Management) Deputy Director to share on this
resolution. Good morning.
Point of Order: MS. LEE LOY: Chair, point of order.
CHR. INABA: Yes. Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: I've noticed that there's an amendment. And I'm not sure if our
Deputy wants to speak to the memo with the amendment or without —how she
would like to proceed. I just don't want her to get started and then —
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CHR.INABA: Yeah.
(Note: At this time, Deputy Corporation Counsel Diana Mellon -Lacey
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. MELLON-LACEY: This is Deputy Corporation Counsel Diana
Mellon -Lacey. Good morning, Council Members. We would like to speak to
the amended resolution.
MS. LEE LOY: Sure. Chair, if you don't mind.
Motion to Amend: Ms. Lee Loy moved to amend Res. 517-24 with the
contents of Comm. 874.1. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. INABA: And we'll hand it over now, if you folks want to share the
overview and the reason for the change being requested in this communication?
MS. MELLON-LACEY: This is Deputy Corporation Counsel Diana
Mellon -Lacey. Well the purpose of this, of course, is to allow the County to
actually purchase the property on which the transfer station sits. And this transfer
station, I believe, has been operating from this location for over 30 years. And of
course, it's difficult to do upgrades and maintain property and advance things
when it isn't your property. And so, that's the impetus behind the County seeking
to purchase the property.
Initially, the County was seeking to purchase it with what turned out to be one of
the owners. And the problem with that was the possibility of a defective title or a
clouded title because that owner was not the sole owner listed and was not
comfortable going forward with anything but a quit claim deed. And of course a
quit claim deed is not something that the County should be considering because
we want full ownership and not to find out subsequently that other owners of
record would continue to be on. So, the decision was made to seek a
condemnation action, which would enable us to effectively address the title issue
at the same time and the County could then get clear title.
And as for the amendments, I think one of them is simply addressing the name
convenience center, which I think is an old title, to call it now recycling and
transfer station. And the others are to have conformed with statutory
requirements regarding a condemnation rather than a purchase agreement, and to
add also the meets of balance description, which is included here in the map
outlining the area. So, I think that's generally it. If there's questions.
(Note: At this time, Environmental Management Deputy Director Brenda
Iokepa-Moses came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
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MS. IOKEPA-MOSES: I just want to add a little bit to this because this is kind of
my baby here in Ka`u. As you know, they closed down Miloli`i Transfer Station.
This is the closest transfer station for our community down there. It's very vital
that we keep this open. If you guys have drove by, it's a little spot, not very
beautiful but we're on like a revokable license, 30 days, since 1970's. I mean, it
was a bad thing. So, getting the Department of Health permit signoff by the
owners, we came into a little bit of a hesitation about them signing off on that
Department of Health permit. So, I had a face-to-face with one of the owners and
they were nice enough to give us one more extension to allow us to do this
operation there with the Department of Health permit, but said we need to do
something different.
And so, this is a I mean, hopefully, this is going to be a friendly condemnation.
They know that we're going this route and they're all on board with it. So, this
would be, I think, a positive for our community to have some security in having
that transfer station secured by the County in order for us to do some necessary
improvements and also just the longevity to make sure that there is a transfer
station that's semi close to Miloli`i, in order for them to have that peace of mind
that they don't have to go all the way to Ocean View because even this site, it's a
little bit of a distance when you're coming out of the depths of Miloli`i down
there. So, thank you.
MS. MELLON-LACEY: And one more thing. This is Deputy Corporation
Counsel Diana Mellon -Lacey again. There was an appraisal done on the
property which the value is listed in the resolution of $247,000. So, we do have
a value for it.
CHR. INABA: Thank you. With that, we are on the amendment. Any
discussion? Council Member Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Mr. Inaba. I was just curious. I know you
mentioned condemnation at eminent domain. What's the timeline on that? It
sounds like all the permits have been lined up. Department of Health permit, we
have an appraisal. I'm just kind of curious as to how long it would take to get
this asset into our County portfolio?
MS. MELLON-LACEY: Well, of course the condemnation requires filing a
court action and then if there's other owners that come forward that have issues
or claim title or ownership, that could take some time. It's hard to predict. I
think one of the big issues is that the money for this purchase was allocated for
this fiscal year. And when you file the condemnation action, then you're
required to put the value in the court. So, that will ensure that the funds were
preserved for the purchase, and you know, I would hope there would be no issue
continuing to operate during that condemnation period. But we would ask the
court for an order to allow us to continue while that's in progress. But it's a little
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hard to —guess but we would want to move as quickly as possible, so we get this
filed and money encumbered filed with the court before the end of the fiscal
year.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you for sharing that, Deputy. Really in support of. Let's
get that money encumbered and let the process take its course. Thank you,
Chair. I yield.
CHR. INABA: Thank you. Anyone else on the amendment? Okay. I just have
a comment and I'm thinking that maybe we can take this up at the Council
hearing. I do think that the language in Section 4 of this amendment, the first
"Be it Resolved", should actually maybe be a "Whereas" in the way that it's
reading. It's saying, `Be it Resolved by the Council of the County of Hawaii
finds it necessary in the public interest to take private property..." it's not
necessary any kind of enacting words, it's more of statement that sounds like it
would be a "Whereas." So, just a comment there. But with that, there is a
motion to amend. All those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Motion The motion to amend Res. 517-24 with the contents of
to Amend: Comm. 874.1 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Inaba — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder —1.
Excused: None.
CHR. INABA: We are back to the main motion, Resolution 517-24, as amended.
Any further discussion? Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. Definitely need to have this facility. It was an
important facility in the long stretch and serves a lot of folks in South Kona. I am
a little curious about the statement in the resolution that the condemnation will
also serve as a quiet title. Could you kind of explain that to me a little bit?
MS. MELLON-LACEY: We will be required to notice all owners of the
property and we will likely need to publish to identify anyone that may feel they
have a claim because I believe there's a history with this property. So, you
know, doubt we'll ensure that everyone gets notice and we'll be dealing with
anyone who believes they have an issue regarding the property as opposed to a
quit claim deed from one owner. So, that's —
MS. GALIMBA: Completely understand that. Yeah. I think that's really a
good process to make sureI mean this area, it is very, very complicated. Land
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title issues in this whole area, especially, I think these ranches. So, yeah, I think
that my main concern would be just to make sure that we are fairly providing
notice to all owners so that they can, if they are, you know, still available.
MS. MELLON-LACEY: Yes. And we will do our best to get the most
comprehensive title search done as possible. It's proving to be difficult to get
some of these title searches done and even be insurable because they're so
complicated. So, the research required can be time consuming, which is another
element that goes to the length of time actually completing a transaction will
take.
MS. GALIMBA: Alright. That's my whole district. Yeah. Have you had any, I
see just four owners listed on our real property tax website, but do you have an
idea of sort of other owners, the number of them and whether there's been any?
MS. MELLON-LACEY: No. I do not. But I know that the owner that we were
initially dealing with was unwilling to make any representations beyond the quit
claim deed, so that's telling.
MS. GALIMBA: Gotcha. Understood. Okay. Thanks.
CHR. INABA: Thank you. Any further discussion? If not, all those in favor of
forwarding Resolution 517-24, as amended, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 517-24: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 517-24, as
Draft 2 amended to Draft 2, was carried by the following voice
(Approved) vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Inaba — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder —1.
Excused: None.
CHR. INABA: Thank you very much. I'll prepare the amendment for that
"Whereas." Thank you. Last agenda item, please.
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Res. 518-24: AUTHORIZES THE ACQUISITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTIES BY
EMINENT DOMAIN, BEING PORTIONS OF TAX MAP KEYS: 1-4-001:002
AND 1-4-001:003, SITUATED AT KAPOHO, PUNA, COUNTY AND STATE
OF HAWAI`I, FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF LAVA INUNDATED
ROADS, COUNTY JOB NUMBER E-4523, SPECIFICALLY POHOIKI ROAD
Authorizes the Corporation Counsel to initiate proceedings in eminent domain
for the taking, acquisition, and condemnation of private property for the purpose
of widening Pohoiki Road to comply with current roadway standards.
Reference: Comm. 875
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of Res. 518-24.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. INABA: Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Hi, guys. Nice to see you. Maybe you
can come forward. We're six years into eruption anniversary. And I'm going to
say that I'm a little bit surprised that I'm seeing this here today without a heads up
given to my office, and after numerous attempts of emailing your boss, and even
you, Mr. Thompson, just asking for an updated timeline on road restoration. I
don't need to pull up the emails and go by the dates in which I've sent notes, but I
think I've been pretty clear about wanting to get the most updated information
and to understand if there are any obstacles in the way. And you have to
understand from my viewpoint and the community's viewpoint, it's kind of hard
to trust at this point that the road's actually going to get restored and that the
timelines that are being pushed out are going to be honored.
And so, I would love for you to just kind of take a moment to explain what's here
before us because I think the resolution that we just heard was a friendly
condemnation and this one is not so friendly. So, just the details on this. How
many landowners are we talking about? I think it's only one, but if there are
more, just want to understand how we got to this place?
(Note: At this time, Department of Public Works Engineering Division
Chief Keoni Thompson came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MR. THOMPSON: Hi. Good morning. Keoni Thompson, Engineering Division
Chief. Actually, Steve was planning to speak on this resolution.
CHR. INABA: Director Pause in joining us from Kona. Director Pause, go
ahead.
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(Note: At this time, Department of Public Works Director Stephen Pause
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. PAUSE: Thank you, Council Member. So, just an opening statement where
I think we've been pretty transparent with our schedule. We have a Public
Information Officer that I know has communicated extensively via website, via
Facebook, via a multitude of options here. So, I'm a little taken back by the fact
that you're suggesting that we're not communicating. We communicate as best as
we can. We put the information out there.
I'll start by saying that we issued a contract yesterday to Isemoto for just under
$18 million to begin the construction work on the first portion of the four portions
of the work for lava recovery. That would be from four corners Highway 137
down to Pohoiki Road. That work is progressing as we've said all along that it
would be getting before the end of the second quarter. This particular portion of
the work would be for the second portion, which would be for doing Pohoiki
Road restoration. And again, as we've reported, we're in the design phase,
completing that, getting ready to put out a good package out onto the street. This
is one component, and I think that we have had conversations in the past
regarding rights of entry and the need for acquiring additional land.
The Pohoiki project constitutes about 4.63 miles of new restored road. Of that we
have obtained approximately 129 rights of entry to allow us to go into people's
property to survey, to do construction activities. All of them were acquired with
our help of Corporation Counsel, and Sinclair I know is there. We've had to do a
land acquisition for 50 properties. All of that has progressed. What we have in
front of us today is a condemnation issue for two properties. This particular
property owner had made it clear early on, and I know that you were part of those
conversations, Council Member Kierkiewicz, that they had signaled their
reluctance to work out any sorts of land deals with the County so, we proceeded
in this respect. These are two parcels of land adjacent to Pohoiki Road that are
necessary to allow us to complete the widening, as well as the slope cutbacks et
cetera associated with the road. It's on upper Pohoiki Road and it's near the
intersection of Kapoho Pahoa Road.
So, the request here or the condemnation is to just take the minimum amount of
land necessary to effectuate our project. I believe the north side parcel is about
.577 acres and the south side parcel is .365 acres. So, again, the intent here is to
allow us to continue with the necessary steps to complete the design of the road
and to start construction.
I'm going to ask Mr. Thompson if he has anything to add to that. Keoni, as you
know, is the Chief of Engineering.
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MR. THOMPSON: Thank you, Steve. Well, the existing right of way is 50 feet
wide. We need to acquire the property so we can do some cut slopes, in order to
build the road. And since we don't have an entry to his property, we will need to
acquire it in order to construct the ordinance. It's right at the top of the road, right
below the Y. We try and balance the excavation and fill as much as we can, but at
his property there's —it crosses the lava channel and that lava channel, this would
be the biggest cut would be approximately 20 feet high, the cut. But that's just
the mouth right before the channels. Other than that, it's pretty, not as much cut
and fill. But we're thinking about 15 feet from each side from their property
fronting the road. So, it's going to be 80 feet, the finished —way.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Does this process at all impact timeline for construction?
Like is there an appeals process that could take place as we move through this? I
just want to make sure that we're on track. We said that we would start
construction this summer. Does this resolution help us get there or is there
something that the property owner can do to kind of stand in the way and delay
construction and road restoration?
(Note: At this time, Deputy Corporation Counsel Sinclair Salas-Ferguson
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. SALAS-FERGUSON: Ultimately. Deputy Corporation Counsel Sinclair
Salas-Ferguson. I think to answer your question, not really. If the County
authorizes Corporation Counsel to file a condemnation action, there's a few steps
that are required. Depositing the money into the court, filing a lis pendens, a few
other ministerial things. But then the County can file an ex parte motion for
possession to actually get onto the property and start conducting construction
work. And the court, as I recall, is required to issue a decision on that motion
within ten days. So, very quickly. After filing that action the County can go and
take possession of that property. Any, I guess, defendant in these type of actions;
the landowners can fight the condemnation and I've seen them win on
technicalities and get it dismissed. But then, you know, the County could just
refile and fix whatever issue was there.
But the fight in condemnations is typically evaluation. It's really, there's no merit
to the —once the County establishes that it's a public use, there's really, the
defendants don't have any merit to defend against that. So, it's usually just the
fight about valuation. And in this case, it's very clear. There's actually additional
authority authorizing the County to take property in this road. There's like an
additional authority saying specifically for county roadways the County has that
authority. So, I don't think this is going to stall the project at all.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. I just want to be super clear, Deputy Corporation
Counsel. This is moving out of Committee into Council and I'm going to
encourage my colleagues to support this. My community of lower Puna has been
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incredibly patient. There have been numerous delays in this project, so we need
to get this done. So, Council adopts the resolution, how long is the judicial
process that you just mentioned? I know you said ten days for the ex parte motion
but is there anything before or after that, that we are having to wait for so that we
have the green light, and we can proceed with the restoration?
MR. SALAS-FERGUSON: For the condemnation, once this resolution passes it
would just be the time necessary for our office to file that complaint. The last one
I did, you know, it took me, I don't know, I did it pretty quickly. It was really
quick.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Define quick?
MR. SALAS-FERGUSON: You know, I can't recall but I remember the Director
of Finance called me to get that done and I think I had it filed within two weeks. I
want to say I even got it filed that week maybe, but two weeks —it's pretty quick.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Do you have the motion ready to file, all the paperwork
complete, ready to go, trigger ready? It's what I've been advocating for, let's be
trigger ready.
MR. SALAS-FERGUSON: Yeah. I don't. But I don't actually institute the
condemnation proceedings. We have a litigation deputy that does that. But we
have standard forms that we use. Condemnation is one of the unique things in
litigation where it's pretty standard. You know, governments have been doing
this since, you know, a few hundred years at least in America. So, they really just
got to institute, you know, change some language and file that form and get it
moving.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: And in terms of timeframe, is there a reason why we're
doing this now or why we didn't do it immediately after the EA (Environmental
Assessment) was published by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management
Agency)? Because we knew that this was a problematic property owner.
MR. PAUSE: So, my understanding and I'm going to ask Keoni to fill in the
blanks. But my understanding is there's a process and after the EA we did, then
had to out and do the surveys, repair the plaque information for the specifics
around the land that we actually needed to take, and then complete the meets and
bounds and the write up to go with that. Keoni?
MR. THOMPSON: Yeah. So, we had to do some partial maps and we had to do
some appraisals, so we know how much to deposit for the condemnation action.
MR. PAUSE: That's right. I forgot the appraisals had to get done as well. We
had to hire a consultant to do the appraisal.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. And so, this is it? Last step before we can award
the contract or the contract's been awarded?
MR. THOMPSON: No, no, no. So, this one, so only 137 was awarded, that
section.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MR. THOMPSON: This one is the Pohoiki one. So, as soon as we get this action
approved and we file, we will go out to bid.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MR. THOMPSON: Yes.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Alright.
MR. THOMPSON: And that's ready to go as soon as this is completed.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. So, this was a necessary step before you could even
put this project out for bid?
MR. THOMPSON: Correct.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it.
MR. THOMPSON: It's a big part of it. Yes.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yes. Clearly. Clearly. Okay, I also want to just take a
moment to thank Council Chair for checking in with me. I know that there was a
request to move this forward directly to Council, but I think if we are going to be
condemning property and there is tension between the County and the property
owner, I think it's very important that we do the right thing and we start these
conversations in Committee and make a recommendation to the full Council.
And I also just want to stress the importance of keeping community partners like
my office and the recovery team, just involved. I know that Jen Meyers from the
recovery team does a lot to support DPW's (Department of Public Works) PIO
(Public Information Officer) in getting information out. And so, just —we're all
one team here. We all want to be successful and get these roads restored so that
people can get back to their homes and their farms and then begin that healing
process. So, just want to reemphasize that, again, here to support, but I just need
to hear from you. Thanks for your work to get this together. I yield.
CHR. INABA: Thank you. Any further discussion? If not, just a comment and
it's for the last resolution too. If there's a way for us to be provided a map that's
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more clear on what we're actually condemning or what we're authorizing for
condemnation. It's really hard to tell in the map and we do have the boundary
descriptions but I'm not a surveyor so it's not helpful to me. With that —
MR. PAUSE: Council Member, I apologize. I have a map. I thought that was
included in your package. If it wasn't, we can get it to you. My apologies.
CHR. INABA: There is a map at the end of the resolution. It's just really hard to
tell what sections of the map are actually relevant to the resolution. So, if we can
maybe be provided a little bit more support there so we're clear on what we are
authorizing.
And then I just wanted to follow-up on Council Member Kierkiewicz's
comments. This resolution and the previous were requested a waiver and I don't
think it matters if there's support or opposition. I think condemnation resolutions
should always be heard at Committee and Council for the County's sake. So, as
long as I'm chairing this Committee, if we could just not even request that. Okay.
There's a motion on the floor to forward Resolution 518-24 to Council with a
favorable recommendation. All those in favor, please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 518-24: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 518-24
(Approved) was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Lee Loy,
Villegas, and Chair Inaba — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder —1.
Excused: None.
CHR. INABA: Thank you, DPW. Thank you, Director Pause. This brings us to
the end of our agenda.
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ADJOURN-
MENT:
Approved:
There being no Wrther business, Chair Inaba adjourned the meeting
at 11:26 a.m.
CHR.INABA: Mahalo.
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