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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN GOEAC 2024/10/15 (2022-2024) DRAFT Committee on Governmental Operations and External Affairs 41st Session West Hawaii Civic Center 74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A Kailua-Kona, Hawaii October 15, 2024 CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Governmental Operations and ORDER: External Affairs was called to order at 10:04 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Cindy Evans, Chair. ROLL CALL: Present: Ms. Cindy Evans, Chair Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Vice Chair(,via videoconference from Hilo) Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member Mr. Matt Kaneali`i- Kleitlfelder, Member Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member Absent& Excused: Ms. Ashley'L.Kierkiewicz, Member STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items. PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS; The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by the Chair:-- Talmadge Magno: hair:TalmadgeMagno: Res. 632-24 (Comm. 1048), comment. Tony Kitchen: Res. 632-24 (Comm. 1048), comment. CHR. EVANS: So, with that, I want to announce that the first resolution on our agendais my resolution. So, I'm going to ask the Clerk that we move that resolution to the end of the agenda. And we'll start with Resolution 663-24. Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members, of Business: the following items were taken out of order: GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 Res. 663-24: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A NINE-YEAR INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII FOR A RADIO REPEATER SITE Allows the Civil Defense Agency to extend its one-year license agreement for the installation of a radio repeater on the summit of Mauna Kea to be used as an emergency radio communications network. Reference: Comm. 1089 Intr. by: Ms. Evans (B/R) Motion to Approve: Ms. Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to recommend adoption of Res. 663-24. Seconded by Ms. Villegas. CHR. EVANS: Any discussion? Director Magno are you still there? Do you want to quickly brief us? (Note: At this time, Civil Defense Administrator Talmadge Magno came forward to address the members of the Committee.) MR. MAGNO: Hi good morning again. Sorry,what was your question? CHR. EVANS: Okay, it's a radio repeater site of the University of Hawaii. MR. MA{..irNO: So, we installed`at one of the sites on top of Mauna Kea, an amateur radio repeater site that is active at this point. We have a one-year agreement with University of awai`i (UH), which we'd like to extend. So, we can definitely have this resource up on the mountain available for amateur radio. It serves 4s,a pretty significant repeater on the top of the mountain for Hawaii Island. It provides communication, you know, islandwide. But we do have difficulties on this island because of the size of our mountains. So, we do have plans of putting in otherrepeaters that will support this one. But currently we activate this one during testing every month along with the outdoor siren system. It's tested and people report in. We actually activated it during Hurricane Hone. So, it's an actual site that produces communication. So, you know, back to that initial discussion, we do have communications with the hubs and the community amateur radio networks to get information back to our Emergency Operations Center at Civil Defense. CHR. EVANS: Thank you. Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder. Page 2 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Talmadge, I guess it's been a year already or close to a year. Did we discuss this a few months back? You brought in the radio repeater and the antenna, and you brought it to the Council. Same site, same idea we're talking about, correct? MR. MAGNO: Yes. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, how long doses the State or the University of Hawaii have an agreement for their use of Mauna Kea? Is that never-ending? Are they up for any kind of EA's (Environmental Assessment) or anything? MR. MAGNO: I do not have that answer righthere. I can Iet you know, though. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, if you can by the next meeting. Thank you. I'll be supporting this though. Thank you for being here today. Chair, I yield. CHR. EVANS: Thank you. Members, any other questions? MR. MAGNO: Excuse me. CHR. EVANS: Yes. MR. MAGNO: I was informed, until 2033, is how long Mauna Kea has their agreement. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Agreement that the State has with—does the University,and the State have an agreement? MR. MAGNO Yes. MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Magno. Appreciate it, thank you for your time. CHR. EVANS: Thank you. I have one last question. So, this negotiation, it was directly with the facility people at UH? You didn't have to go through the Office of Mauna Kea Management, Mauna Kea Authority? There's no connection with this particular agreement? It was just directly with UH. MR. MAGNO: It's one in the same, plus the Attorney General's Office. CHR. EVANS: Oh good. Okay, alright, thank you. MR. MAGNO: Office of the General Counsel (OGC). Page 3 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 CHR. EVANS: Alright. Thank you. We have a motion on the floor, all in favor? Vote on Res. 663-24: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 663-24, was (Approved) carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba, Kagiwada, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans—8., Noes: None. Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewic'z—.1. Excused: None. CHR. EVANS: Okay, next. And this is Resolution 665-24,please. Res. 665-24: AMENDS THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND ORGANIZATION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAII 13Y AMENDING RULE NO. 26 Adds a second Special Assistant to the Chairperson's staff. Reference: Comm. 1094 Intr, by Mr. Inaba Motion to Approve: Ms. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 665-24. Seconded by Ms. Galimba. CHR. EVANS: Mr. Inaba. MR. INABA: Thank you. This position for clarification, isn't going to be created it already has been created'. It is currently filled by Jessica Valdez who is taking care of our CRF'§ (Contingency Relief Fund), and most especially, our Waiwai Grant program. So, this resolution just puts our rules in line and reflects that an,additional,position in the Chair's Staff has been created. And just want to offer support and ask for your support. There's a lot of good work happening, especially in grant-reporting and making sure that our grantees are following the agreement that they signed with our County when we were giving out these funds. I got over 15 emails yesterday for some discrepancies that the new position, Ms. Valdez, is catching and making sure that we are appropriately using the taxpayers' dollars. So, ask for your support. Mahalo. CHR. EVANS: Okay, Members any questions? I had just one. So, how is that impacting our Director of the Department of Finance, because they will still have to vet these Waiwai grants? Is there coordination between the Department of Finance and the Special Assistant? Page 4 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 MR. INABA: So, the Council and it's Committee ultimately makes the decision on the award. The applications usually go to the Finance Department. However, that's where they check for compliance with documents. And once everyone who is eligible is determined, they hand it over to us to check who we do the awards to. Finance does the agreement, and then organizations are submitting within the required six months, and final reports for their grants. Those reports are coming to us, specifically Ms. Valdez. And she is checking them for compliance with the original agreement. And if there are any discrepancies, she is contacting them directly. And if we don't receive any reports per the'agreements established and signed by the County and the organization, they will not be eligible for future County Grants until such time that a report is submitted to show what the money was spent on. CHR. EVANS: Thank you. And I think this last year we had ewer 200 of these grants. So, that's quite a few for someone to manage. Thank you. Okay, no more further discussion. We have a motion ori the floor, all in favor? Vote on Res. 665-24: The motion to recommend adoption'of Res. 665-24, was (Approved) carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Inaba, Kagwada, Kaneah'i-K16irifelder, Kimball,Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans-7. Noes: None. Absent Committee Members Galimba and Kierkiewicz—2. Excused- None. CHR EVANS: Thank you. So, now, we have left on the agenda, Resolution'b32-24. 'So, Lill be passing my Chair over to Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder at 10:22 a.m. Relinquish Chair: At thistime, Chair Evans relinquished the chair to Council Member Kaneal `i-Kleinfelder. ACTING,CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair Evans,please let the record reflect, I've assumed the chair at 10:22 a.m. Mr. Clerk, our final order of business today. Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business. Page 5 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions. (Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.) Res. 632-24: REQUESTS THE MAYOR TO CONVENE A WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP A COUNTY RADIO PLAN Seeks to convene a working group consisting of representatives from the Civil Defense Agency, the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, Big Island Amateur Radio Club, and other stakeholders, to improve the County's radio communication infrastructure focusing on emergency response for rural and isolated areas. Reference: Comm. 1048 Intr. by: Ms. Evans Postponed:' October 1,2024 (Note: There is a motion by Ms. Evans, seconded by Mr. Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder to recommend adoption of Resolution 632-24,.) (Note: Comm. 1048.2 from Council Member Cin4 Evans dated October 15, 2024 transmitting proposed amendments to Res. 632-24, was circulated.) Motion to Amend: Ms. Evans moved to amend Res. 6324, with the contents of Comm. 1048.2. Seconded by Mr. Inaba. ACTING CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Evans. MS. EVANS Thank you, Chair. This amendment is just to add a little more clarity and specifics. Last time when we heard it, I realized as we were looking at it, that,a little more direction on outcomes and expectations would really help this working group know exactly what the expectation is. I met with a group of hand-radio operators from across the island. Actually, at that meeting, I had the Civil Defense Agency represented by Scott Uehara who runs the radio program within the Civil Defense Agency. We had a really robust discussion in terms of clarity. And the language that you see is the result of that conversation. So, the "Whereas's", which are in the resolution kind of give background. And then, the `Be it Resolved" is kind of the deliverables. Again, we would like the Mayor to call a working group together. I think that we hold it down to have nine-members to the working group, which we think is a manageable number. We didn't want the group being too big or too little. Page 6 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 The nine members would consist of a member of the Civil Defense Agency, a member of the State Emergency Management Agency, a member of the volunteer organizations that are activated during disaster; as well as Auxiliary Communications Service Group; then five members from Amateur Radio Clubs across the island. Then, we also put in any other non-voting member as the working group may deem appropriate, which I think is important because they;may ask some people to come in and actually give them some advice. The information that they need is critical to develop recommendations. The other thing, important piece is the "Be it'Resolved,"which is actually the deliverables. And we'd like this group,to give recommendations in five areas. One being, Training, certification, and protocols for the use of ham radios during disasters and emergencies. Number two, Continual evaluation of ccoordination efforts between the Civil Defense Agency and ham radio operators. Three, Civil Defense alert and notification systems, and other methods of public information outreach and dissemination during and after times of disaster or emergency. Four, Prioritization of underserved or unserved areas for communication infrastructure improvements. And Five, Determination of human resource capacity and need, including volunteer and personnel hours to be used as abasis for logistical planning and for seeking future funding opportunities. I think this was kind of reinforced to me when I read the report by the Attorney General on the facts as they determined them, when they reviewed and looked at what„happened in Lahaina. Coming out of that, a lot of it was the coordination, the messaging,;and the outreach. And.what I realized is, on our island, because of the size of our island,we have a lot of remote areas. And if, in fact, we lose the ability to have teleph6ne,'internet, and power outages, which is emphasized recently by HELCO (Hawaiian Electric Light Company) during their power shutoff. They were going to shut off the power up in South Kohala where I represent,,if there's high winds and drought. So, how does the word get out? Ham radio operators definitely have the potential to really like be there when they're needed. So, I'm a believer that Civil Defense is doing a good job, but I also believe that every time we have events; that it's an opportunity to re-evaluate and do better, then find a way to maybe get resources from,our Federal government, State government, or County government. If we can stand it up and make it more robust, I think it's opportunity. So, that's kind of my goal by asking for this plan and ask for your favorable support. Thank you, I yield. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Council Member Evans. On the amendment, Council Members? Council Member Kimball. Page 7 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 MS. KIMBALL: Thank you. Support the overall intent, absolutely. I've got a lot of ham radio operators, enthusiastic ones in my district as well. And of course, it's one of those that has lots of gulches and whatnot. So, it's one of the few ways you can reliably communicate across that landscape. But I did want to ask, you know, given the Administrator's testimony, and maybe you can just sort of editorialize on this, was there an attempt to do this working group with Civil Defense outside of having to do a resolution, and have you worked at all directly with Civil Defense on the formulation of this resolution? I just wonder, given what Administrator Magno said, if there's already some systems in place that maybe just need to be augmented err reported to us—like I do like that piece of this a lot, that we getthat report. But L wonder to what extent was there an effort to sort of make this happen without having to�,formulize through a resolution, and to what`extent did you work with Civil Defense on the language? MS. EVANS: Chair, thank you. Two things one is, yes, I've invited Civil Defense to my meeting with the ham radio operators and we had robust discussions. So, they listened. What they haven't seen is the amended language. So, I will say this, that Director Magno has not seen'theamendment that I am proposing today. So, that wouldbe great for him to see it. But the other.side of this is my work at the State Legislature really thought me that when we need to make thugs—like we as a Council need to understand what we can do to assist the agency to get funding; to get staffing; to basically be there to support their operations, that thesetypes of plans are very important. Because that becomes your working group as the ones who flush out—kind of have that discussion and come back with recommendations and priorities. Then we can make determination of which ones do we want to work on, which ones might kind of be at the top,of the list or low-hanging fruit that we can take on to help the agency. So, to me,'it's a document that really supports the Council work to support the agency, and I've seen it very effective. So, it's not to say that people aren't doing things. What it is saying, is how do we do it better and how can we move it forward? But to make that kind of decision, you need information. And to me, this is getting that information that we could use. I yield. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Council Member Kagiwada. MS. KAGIWADA: I also really support the intent. I'm not sure if I really understood the answer there as far as did you attempt to work with Civil Defense on getting your objectives met? Which is what I was kind of what I was Page 8 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 wondering without going through this; things like there might be some conflict. There definitely seems to be some overlap, there might be some confusion. So, I'm just wondering, did you attempt to work with Civil Defense to get your objections met before doing this, or you just saw this as something totally separate that you should go forward with on your own? MS. EVANS: I reached out to Director Magno and told him that I was going to put this together; that I thought it would really help with getting funding and resources and get us focused on ham radio. And'1 think that—and he'd have to speak for himself but my sense of that conversation was,we have people on staff, and I feel we're doing a good job. I told him, this is not a critique at all on what you do and how you do things now. It's about how we as a Council can'support the effort to make itmore robust; get it more in line with the Council supporting whatever resources. They have to be bought. For example, more repeaters oti'more mountaintops; more training, more certification. This again, was out of talking to people that are CERT (Community Emergency Response Team)people and Firewise people in my district who really thought ham radio operators could,server They could do more with ham radio operators during these disasters and emergencies, and they were the ones that brought it to my attention., And I thoughts you're right, you know, they do serve a purpose and maybe the Council, there is way to make it,more robust. But,yes, I reached out to the Director. Again, I did have his staff present when we had our meeting;with the ham radio operators, knowing that I was going to amend this termakeitmore specific. So, that we had the deliverables that I think e could use. Thank you. MS. IGIWADA:' I see Administrator Magno there. Administrator, have you seen the amendment to this resolution? MR. MAGNO: It was given to me this morning when I entered. So, I have not reviewed,it in detail. MS'KAGIWADA: Okay. I guess, I'm wondering, do you feel like given the structure you have now, you could work to meet these requests and deliverables here that are mentioned? I guess, I know you said you haven't looked at it in detail. But I'm just wondering if the structure you're currently under, as opposed to doing a whole separate structure is workable for still getting at what Council Member Evans really wants to see here? Do you feel like the structure is in place to maybe meet some or most or all of these requests. Page 9 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 MR. MAGNO: Yes I do. You know, I think redundancy in communications is critical in emergency management, and a lot of activities we deal with. So, the importance of working with all these other groups, I think is important, and I'd like to throw out that possibly, working through an MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) with these groups to identify these levels of communications and activities, you know, we can make this work. So something that we do already, an MOU process, it gets reviewed by leadership legally could accomplish what this resolution is trying to do. MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. So, I think having,meetings for meetings' sake is something we try to like. So, if you can do itin your structure, maybe that would be a good way, but you know, obviously, leave it up to,you. Sounds like maybe more conversations around that—I'm not,sure if I can support this at this point, because it sounds like it might be overcomplicating things whore it might not be necessary. But love to hear from'everybody else and the maker if you have suggested ideas. I yield. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Checking in with Hilo. MS. LEE LOY: Thank you,Chair. I think listening to Administrator Magno, you know, this is a lengthy amendment,but it also seems like there's another pathway to achieve some of this. I think as Ms.+Kagiwada mentioned, my larger concern is that piece, right, meetings for meetings' sake. And then, how do we staff that? How do we report out? We have a number of boards and',commissions that's already challenged with getting'membeis on this. I would love to have the maker maybe hit the pause button and see if there is another pathway through the Memorandum of Understanding,, ,So that, we can get these organizations together, but also report back in a mariner that doesn't gobble up so much of everybody's valuable time when so much of the work is already being done. Those are my thoughts. I yield. ACTING CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kimball. MS. KIMBALL: Just to say, I think for today, I'm willing to support this amendment in terms of, I think the language provides better clarity about what you are attempting to accomplish. But I'm kind of in the same boat, thinking okay, let's hold it here again now that the Administrator has had a chance to look at it. You guys can have a deeper conversation, and just make sure we're all lined up and in agreement. The other thing I don't want to do is inadvertently create an unfounded mandate, if there's going to be things that they're going to need resources for beyond what Page 10 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 they have already to accomplish this. Again, really appreciate the intent and agree with the need for it. I just want to make sure we're coordinating between ourselves and the Administration. So, request that we hold this after the amendment goes through. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay, seeing no further discussion, Council Member Evans, before we proceed. Actually, on the amendment, I like that you provided more clarity and you've really outlined what you're looking for from all the different groups involved. I'm not hearing major concerns from Administrator'Magno, but I am hearing some possibilities of an MOU or something along those lines. So, I'm willing to support the amendment, and then we'll get to the heart of the resolution after that. Okay, Council Members we have the motion on the floor to amend Resolution 632-24 with the contents of Communication 1048.2. All in favor? Any opposed? Vote on Motion The motion to amend Res. 632-24 with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 1048.2 was carried by the following voice vote: (Approved) Ayes: Committee Members Inaba, Kagiwada, Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder,Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas, and Chair Evans—7. Noes: None. Absent, Committee Members Galimba and Kierkiewicz—2. Excused- None. ACTING CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Back to the main motion, Resolution 632-24, as amended. Council Member Evans. MS. E' ANS: Thank you. So, again, I think it's really important that we always in any disaster or emergency, get better at what we do by learning. So this is again, to Director Magno, this in no way is discussing what you currently do. It's about the future and how we make things better. I do think these types of documents really help us when we work with our Congressional Delegation and our State Legislature to try to get funding for our Civil Defense Agency. I think it's a great working document that serves that we've gone through the effort to know what our priorities are and where media weaknesses are that we need to stand up. I strongly believe in these types of things; I've seen them work well. I did hear you say you offer a Memorandum of Understanding. If you could have that done in two or three months, great. But you know, there's a lot of ham radio groups Page 11 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 out there and a lot of ham radio operators. I don't know if this gets structured. This gives a lot of structure to that discussion. And even in that recommendation by this group could be we need a Memorandum of Understanding. That could come out from this radio study group coming together. Because the reality is, this whole island and the ham radio operators have to work together with you and not as individual clubs or individual entities. So, I see this as also a way to build that relationship by working together on this plan. It is very short. Come together, two, three meetings and have the report to the Mayor by the end of the year. I see some real positive outcomes by bringing everybody together. So, with that, I ask for everybody's'support- I yield. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER Council Members? Council Member Inaba. MR. INABA: Thank you, Council,Member Evans. And thank you, Administrator for sharing that. You know, it is something that you and the existing team are able to carry out. I think there have been a lot of improvements, especially when it comes to a more uniform approach with social media and getting information out. So,thank you to you and your team for getting that done. And look forward to continued improvement and growth in our ability to respond and be prepared for disasters. So, I'll be in support: Thank you. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member teetoy. MS:'LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. You know, I'll probably not support it at this time justbecause of what the Administrator said and the pathway on where this could be addressed'separately. Iam a little concerned with the addition of that one"Whereas" clause for a County Radio Plan. I share that because it's great to share publicly what our weaknesses are, or our vulnerabilities are. But in a larger scale, I don't want to put us at risk when it comes to delivering emergency information. And we often think about the pathways to providing good information. But lets face it we live in a time where some of this information could be utilized in a very nefarious way, and I would love tosee some of this developed in pathways of the MOU. In addition to that, if this does move forward with the body, I would also maybe love to see how this actually helps demonstrate our redundancy for emergency preparedness and couched and framed in a way that we can deliver back to our insurance companies. Because we're going to see our insurance rates continue to climb and it's delivery of emergency information, I think, might be a tool to demonstrate to our insurance carriers that we do have a very robust and redundant system to keep our community and our properties safe. Page 12 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 So again, if we do move this forward, I'm not going to be supporting this at this time. But however, if this moves forward; if there could be those other information points in the development of this path. I yield. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kagiwada. MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. I would love to hold,ithere and give you a chance to work a little more closely with the Administrator and see what you can do on an MOU or getting to these goals, because I think they're really good goals. But if it goes forward today, I will also be voting "no's at this time. Thanks. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER Thank you. Council Member Kimball. MS. KIMBALL: Administrator,do we still have the MOU active with the Resilience Hub Network and Vibrantliawai`i as well, as far as a communication outreach strategy? MR. MAGNO: Yes, it's still active. We are in'the process of updating because of some changes and then particular communcation'that have come up. So, we are still partners with them. MS. KIMBALL: Is that something that could be either modified or expanded to include the 14am Radio Network, because I know that there's a number of the ham radio folks thatactually participate in the Hub system as well. MR. MAGNO' Well, clarification is we've enagaged the Vibrant Hubs to be their own entities and utiliAing amateur radio. All these other groups are other entities. So you know,we would have to look at what they're, I guess, objectives are. If they,match then possibly, under one. But we would have to look at it to see if a separate MOU is'needed. MS. KIMBALL: Great. And then I know that we're going through the conprehesive operation hazard plan process. Is there a communication's radio component to that process that would also have a reporting component to it? MR. MAGNO: If communications is identified, you know as I guess, something that's vulnarable and we could attach it to mitigation efforts, possibly. MS. KIMBALL: When is that report going to be completed? MR. MAGNO: We have to have that wrapped up and to the State by February of 2025. Page 13 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 MS. KIMBALL: Okay. So, this is maybe something else to consider, Council Member Evans, is, we have a consultant working on this plan for us who works on Hazard Mitigation Plans nationally, who probably has some information, best practices wise about what to put out there as far as Communication Plans. In terms of what Council Member Lee Loy was talking about, about potentially putting herself at risk for abuse by nefarious characters, depending on what we put out in the plan. So, again, I think I'm also just going to strongly suggest, I'd rather put out— again, utagain, support the intent, and I want to see this done right. And I think just a couple more conversations with Talmadge. I believe there's a meeting this Thursday. You could maybe touch base with the consultant on that. It could be part of that plan that would come out in'February. So, I think there's just a few other things to look at before we proceed with this. So, I encouarge you to make a motion to postpone. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, seeing no other lights. Talmadge, Administrator, do you have any issues with the resolution? Anything that you find you're unable to comply with? And I would just preface that by saying it is a resolution. MR. MAGNO: You know, I think it coincides or matches what we try to do as far as communcation, look at all avenues to create redundancy, include all our partners, everybody that's part of our community. So, as far as that, I'm in agreement,., But you know, adding another layer of bureaucracy to something that's already"ongoing that we could take care in another manner, that's what I'm concerned about:' ACTING CHR. KAEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Do you feel that our CERT teams' ould be a good fit if this was to move forward? MR. MAGNO: 'Well, our CERT teams, a lot of them are amateur radio already. So, I'm not sure what you're getting at. They're active, you know, they work directly for us. So, amateur radio is part of their function. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, what about Chris Leonard? MR. MAGNO: So, Chris is specifically in public radio broadcasting. So, he is our primary emergency message carrier for public broadcasting radio stations. And so, he usually joins with us in any kind of communication that we want to push out to the public. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I guess what I'm asking Talmadge, is in this `Be it Resolved,"that we convene a working group of nine Page 14 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 members. I really do feel that Chris Leonard should be one of the members, and I'm looking for your input. MR. MAGNO: He definitely, is part of the public messaging. So, I agree. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. To the maker, I support this, and I understand what you're doing. I'll support it today. I think there's work to be done. When you land at Council, I thinly y6u need to get a lot of things in line and really work with the Director to see what happens. If this passes, understand what's already in play, and then more so, add some of the folks that may be missing from this list, if you're going to specify a working group. Make sure that we have all the aright players at the table, and then as well, address the MOU issue that's come up. I'm looking at the last"Be it Resolved," clause. But I will support today with you understanding at the next meeting, there still is a lot that needs to be done. 'Thank you. Anything further? MS. EVANS: Thank you, much. I don't'krtow what Talmadge's schedule is like over the next few weeks,, and it is Election's season. So, I would think, looking at the calendar so, Mr. Clerk,when is our next-meeting? Next Committee meeting is November 7t'? MR. HENRICKS: Yes, the next Committee meeting is scheduled for Thursday, November 7t'. Okay, then I would skip that one and go to the next one. Page 15 GOEAC-41 October 15,2024 Vote on Motion to Ms. Evans moved to postpone Res. 632-24, as amended, to Postpone: November 19, 2024. Seconded by Mr. Inaba and carried (Approved) by the following voice vote: Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba, Kagiwada, Kimball, Lee Loy, Villegas, and Acting Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8. Noes: None. Absent: Committee Member Kierkiewicz 1. Excused: None. ACTING CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That does bring us to the end of this agenda. Thank you. ADJOURN- Seeing no further business, Acting Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder adjourned the MENT: meeting at 10:53 a.m. Approved: Ms. Cindy Evans, Chair> (Date) Committee on Governmental Operations and External Affairs CE/dt Page 16