HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2024/11/19 (2022-2024) DRAFT Committee on Finance
48th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
November 19, 2024
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 11:30 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Ms. Cindy Evans, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
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Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member (videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz,,Member(came in later, videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceedto the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm, 12:42: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: OCTOBER 1 — 15, 2024
From Controller Kay Oshiro, dated October 18, 2024.
Vote on Comm.12.42: Mr-Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 12.42.
Filed Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Moving on.
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Comm. 13.45: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: SEPTEMBER 1 — 15, 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated October 30, 2024, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 13.45. Seconded
by Ms. Galimba.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion? I have one for Mass
Transit. I don't know if they're here?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Administrator Kandle is here and coming forward.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you for
being here today, Administrator. Please introduce yourself andthen I'll ask my
question.
(Note: At this time, Mass Transit Administrator Victor Kandle came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KANDLE: Yes. Victor Kandle, Administrator for Mass Transit, Hawaii
County.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLENFELDER: Thank you. Can you talk to me a little bit
about the, what is this, removal of mobile eye,shield plus system from each of the
eight buses and then the cost of is a substantial percent of the original contract
increase?
MR. KANDLE: So, we had ordered two and we ended up needing more because
we've had the severe issue with the transmissions in the paratransit vans. So, we
had placed an order thrrrugh Soderholm for two and then realized we were going
to need more. And in the few months that we had requested information for the
costs,ithad gone up by the time it was actually proposed to us. And we did work
with Diane to push back So ultimately, we ended up removing a little bit
equipmentthat we had added to six out of the eight and that was an effort to kind
of reduce that overall cost. And we definitely pushed into trying to understand
what the increase was, and it was just simply still during a period of time when
things were still going up pretty rapidly. And so, I believe that we ended up on a
tectal of actually seven that we're going to order that we haven't got to yet. But
that's where that's headed because we had to reduce the cost even further.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So,we went from two buses to
eight buses to seven buses?
MR. KANDLE: Yup.
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CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And what is the removal of mobile eye
shield plus system; what is that?
MR. KANDLE: So, that's a system that's designed to help the visual ability of an
operator to see around like the post, and I can't remember how they technically do
that. But it's like part of a video camera that positioned in place of like the pilar
that blocks the view, and it's got cameras that are designed to be able to see that.
It's pretty high tech stuff that is nice to have but it's also a little bit frivolous in
the face of the need of what we need for these buses.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So,we eliminated the high tech
components and went for more buses over more high tech stuff on the buses, does
that wrap it up?
MR. KANDLE: Yes. It does.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: ,Okay. Beautiful. Thank you. Appreciate
that. And I have one more for Environmental Management. This is for the
contract regarding the Organics Diversion Program for Hawaiian Earth Recycling.
I'm not sure who that is. Alright, cool. Thanks for being out with us today.
Sorry. Introduce yourself,please.
(Note: At this time, Environmental Management Business Manager Robin
Bauman came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. BAUMAN: Yes. Good morning. I'm Robin Bauman, Business Manager
for the Department of Environmental Management.
CHR. IANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. I'm looking at the contract for
Hawaiian Earth Recycling,,a pretty substantial increase but looks like this is for a
new portion or programming for what they do already, or this is an increase in
their cost for contracting?
MS. BAUMAN: So, this supplemental contract is strictly to certify funds for the
current fiscal year 2024-2025. So, it's just certifying our obligation to meet the
minimum tonnage required under the contract and just to meet our existing
obligations for the current year. It's no changes to the services or the contract.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Is it an increase from what we paid last
year, or has it stayed the same?
MS. BAUMAN: Each year, the contract has a provision for increase based on the
consumer price index. So, I think there's maybe a, you know, three to four
percent increase based on whatever the consumer price index was.
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CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Okay. Perfect. Thank you very
much. Appreciate it. Okay. Council Member Evans, go ahead.
MS. EVANS: Thank you. I think this is for Finance and maybe Environmental
Management. So, we have the Finance Director here in Kona. I had a question in
terms of writing of contract. On the first line item there's towing of vehicles by
the Department of Environment Management and the Hawaii Police Department.
Is it common for us to join different departments into an agreement or do we like,
like of has that become more of a norm or is that unusual tocombine two different
departments?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director'Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure. Good morning. Diane Nakagawa, Finance
Department. Where we can, we'd like to combine these solicitations. It is much
more efficient for our process if we are able to know our needs ahead of time.
That is one of the areas we are definitely looking to improve on is the more we
can get a handle of all the needs of the different departments and provide these
solicitations in one, the less contracts we have to manage and more efficient and
timesaving the process is.:So, where we know there's a,need for multiple
departments, we do try to combine the solicitation, andwe do have the flexibility
to adapt the specifications per the department if they're different.
MS. EVANS: Is this predominantly for abandoned vehicles, because you have
the Police Department, and you have Environmental Management and I'm
wondering if it's
MS. NAKAGAWA'; Sure For DEM (Department of Environmental
Management), maybe Robin, if you could fill in on the purpose of this one?
MS. BAUMAN: Yeah, I'm not sure I can answer that completely. For the
Police Department, it's possible it could include tows of vehicles that have been
involved in accidents. But I mean, we can look further into that and get back to
you.
MS. EVANS: Yeah, because I can see a lot of opportunities to be towing by you
know,even the County. The County could have vehicles that break down on the
road that need to be towed. But in addition to that, I'd noticed the way you wrote
the contract says we're going to extend it or until the new agreement is in place.
So, you kind of have an open ended—in some ways you have an open ended
agreement. And I'm wondering what the requirement is for you to go out and
rebid this so that other towing companies can participate, you know, because how
many years before you'd have to go back out and have the towing services bid on
this?
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MS. NAKAGAWA: So, we can extend our contracts up to 180 days. Normally,
when you see the language on the purpose for extension for a short period of time
until a new contract is in place, it is because our participating team is working
with the department to issue on the solicitation, and it is to get them through that
period.
MS. EVANS: So, that implies there is going to be a new solicitation, and maybe
other towing companies can bid.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yeah.
MS. EVANS: Okay. Good. Okay. Thank you.
MS. NAKAGAWA: You're welcome.
MS. EVANS: I yield.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Checking with Hilo? Hearing
none, motion is on the floor to close file on,Communication 13.45. All in favor?
Vote on Comm. 13.45: The motion to close file on Comm. 13.45 was carried
Filed by the following voice vette:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans; Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Communication 13.46, please.
Comm: 13.46: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: SEPTEMBER 16 —30, 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated October 31, 2024, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
Motion to Close File Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 13.45. Seconded
by Ms. Galimba.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion on the
motion?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair?
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Kierkiewicz.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I see our Director for Research and
Development in chambers and just had questions about the nature of the contracts
for statewide Farm Bill data analysis, and what we can expect from HACBED
(Hawaii Alliance for Community-Based Economic Development) regarding
empowering Hawaii Island businesses? Hi, Director.
(Note: At this time, Research and Development Director Douglas Adams
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. ADAMS: Thank you, Council Member. Doug Adams, Director of Research
and Development. The first one that you referred to is,a completed action. It had
to do with the efforts we were making with the other counties and with the State
DOA (Department of Agriculture) and it"was a data development analysis work.
And that information is actually available on our website.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Perfect. Thank you.
MR. ADAMS: And then the second one,it has to do with the technical analysis
of entrepreneurship and entrepreneurship opportunities here on the island, and
that carries through to the end of the fiscal year. So, that's a no cost extension to
June 30, 2025.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So;that projects that analysis, the engagement with
Hawaii Island Entrepreneurs is still in progress?
MR. ADAMS: That's correct.
MS.'KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. And we can expect that report by the end of next
fiscal year?
MR. ADAMS: Well, the contract will be done. The report still has another
30 days to be provided to us beyond the end of the contract.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it. And Michelle is listed as the specialist in charge.
MR. ADAMS: That's correct.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Perfect. Thank you for those details. I appreciate it. I
yield.
MR. ADAMS: Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Evans.
MS. EVANS: Just a quick question on the stewardship grants. So, thank you.
We have Deputy Director Aaron.
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(Note: At this time, Finance Deputy Director Aaron Brown came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. BROWN: Good morning.
MS. EVANS: Morning.
MR. BROWN: Aaron Brown, Department of Finance.
MS. EVANS: Okay. So, I noticed that the stewardship grant, you're extending it
by a year. So, I just want to make sure. The Council approved the resolution to
give the grant. I didn't realize that if that grant didn't get spent that you would
have the authority to go ahead and work with them to extend-it.
MR. BROWN: So, we'll talk a littlebit more about the entire PONC (Public
Access, Open Space and Natural,Resources Preservation) stewardship grant
process that we've been working on pretty extensively over the past year. But for
this one, on the report, this was a previous contract that already was awarded.
The Council at the time had passed that reso. And what happened was it took us a
while to execute the contract. So, the applicantdidn't have enough time to run
through their program. So, what we're doing is extending the timeline to give that
applicant more time so that they can execute what was on their original
application. So, that's actually from,a couple years ago, the 2023 contracts. So,
this is a six-month extension, I'm sorry. But gain, it was because it took us a
little while to execute the contract that the Council had approved.
1S: EVANS: Okay. That's good to know. I was just going back to the original
resolution. Soy really, you do have the authority of not asking the Council. But
you do`have the authority to go beyond the fiscal year into another fiscal year?
MR—BROWN—Yes. Yes. As long as the original authorization by approved by
Council to execute that program that was provided to us, which it was.
MS. EVANS: Alright. Good to know. Thank you. I yield.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Any further discussion?
Hearing and seeing none, motion is on the floor to close file on
Communication 13.46. All in favor?
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Vote on Comm. 13.46: The motion to close file on Comm. 13.46 was carried
Filed by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item,please.
Comm. 13.47: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: OCTOBER 1 — 15, 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated November 1,2024, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County,Code.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm'. 13.47. Seconded
by Ms. Villegas.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion on the
measure? Council Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Yes. Just disclosing that one of the change order items relates
to a business that I own with my husband: I have no day to day involvement with
the operations, but since we are just receiving this report there's no need to
recuse. But I am disclosing. Thank you.
CHR, KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Council Member Kimball.
Anyone else on the communication? Council Members in Hilo? Okay. I have
eine question,for Finance,, ell, actually this is more Public Works, but you
probably could help me on this one. In review of the amount of times our air
conditioning system has failed at the Hawai`i County Building, and looking over
the continuing agreements for our maintenance of air conditioning systems in
various locations of the County of Hawaii, I'm just thinking out loud, you know,
who is servicing the Hilo Buildings, do you know?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
NfS. NAKAGAWA: Not off the top of my head. I'm not sure if it's Oahu Air,
but I would confirm with DPW (Department of Public Works) if they're in Hilo.
MS. KAGIWADA: We have the Deputy Director here. They're coming up.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here, Malia. Can you
please introduce yourself for the record.
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(Note: At this time, Public Works Deputy Director Malia Kekai came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. KEKAL Yes. Malia Kekai, Deputy Director of Public Works. She's
current. Currently, the contract is with Oahu Air.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Just putting it out there. We have
had numerous occasions, perhaps maintenance, perhaps equipment, perhaps
whatever, but we're had a lot of ups and downs in our A/C (air conditioning)
system, some persisting for more than two weeks,which has caused great
discomfort to the staff in the building. So, maybe a review of our contract; or just
doing a once over on that contract to see what's being deme, who's doing what
and for how much, might be a good visit into our abilities as a County. That's it.
MS. KEKAL Okay. Thank you. Yeah. We're happy to do that. I think, you
know, with our aging infrastructure,we're definitely trying to keep up with it. but
there's been a number of chillers been replaced in the last couple years and we'll
continue to look at those and, you know,try and get it done quicker because I
don't have any windows in my office, so T know what it's like when the AC goes
down. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Deputy Director.
I appreciate that. And everyone in the County Building appreciate you too.
Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it: Any further discussion from the
body? ;Seeing and hearing none, we do have the motion on the floor to close file
on Communication 13.47. All in favor?
Vote on Comm. 13.47: The motion to close file ori Comm. 13.47 was carried
Filed by the following voice vete:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and'Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item,please.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
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Res. 713-24: CHANGES TIME ELEMENT OF A HALF-TIME RECREATION
TECHNICIAN 11 POSITION TO FULL-TIME
Requests adjustment to full-time with the intent to reallocate the position to a
position that would increase public safety and reduce the County's liability.
Reference: Comm. 1159
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption
of Res. 713-24. Seconded by Ms. Villegas
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We do have Parks,and Recreation Director
Maurice Messina in our Hilo Chambers,I do believe.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yes. You have Parks leadership here.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER ,Alright. Please introduce yourself for the
record please.
(Note: At this time, Recreation Division Administrator Lindsey Iyo came
forward to address,the members of the Committee.)
MS. IYO: Lindsey Iyo, Recreation,Division Administrator.
CHR,KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here this morning,
Lindsey. Give us a little background on the resolution for changing the time
element of the position for the resolution.
MS. II 0: Okay. So, currently the position is a half-time Recreation Technician.
This position,the way that it stands right now, does not require any type of
certification to run the track and skeet range facility. And as you can imagine that
facility„holds a 16t of liability with, you know, the public walking around with
guns. SO, we would like to elevate it to a full-time position as well as reallocate it
to a Specialist I position, which is comparable to the gun ranges on Oahu.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Are we detracting from the facility
position at all or are we taking away from that facility?
MS:IYO: No. We are actually adding. So, it would become a full-time position,
and we would then be able to offer more services to the public.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Beautiful. Thank you for the
background. Council Members? Council Member Evans, go ahead.
MS. EVANS: Just a technicality again in title. So, the title is changing the
Recreation Tech II position to full-time, but later it's also you plan on changing
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it to Recreation Specialist, so the Recreation Specialist does not have to be in the
resolution that you can do that internally and you don't need it done by the
Council?
MS. IYO: From what I understand, the time element has to be changed first and
then we will move for reallocation to the Specialist I.
MS. EVANS: And the reallocation will be just internally in the Department of
Human Resources?
MS. IYO: I believe so.
MS. EVANS: Okay. Alright. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you.
MS. KAGIWADA: Chair?
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair. Just wondering I think I heard you say
that the current half-time position does not have certification maybe, so does that
mean that the new full-time position,wll have some additional training or
certification?
MS. IYO: Yes. So, when we plan to reallocate to the Specialist I position, we'll
be able to include a basic range safety officer certification and basic shot gun
safety.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay". Great. Well, that is very good to hear and seems like
it should be necessary. So, thank you. Happy to support.
MS. IYO., Thank you..
MS. KAGIWADA: I yield.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no further discussion.
Thank you very much, Ms. Iyo, for being here this morning. Motion is on the
floor to forward Resolution 713-24 to Council with a favorable recommendation.
All in favor?
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Vote on Res. 713-24: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 713-24 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans, Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the Next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 218: AMENDS CHAPTER 19, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 19-2, OF THE HAWAII
COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO
REAL PROPERTY TAXES
Amends the definition of"Affordable rental rate"to mean a monthly rent not to
exceed the most recent affordable rental guideline for 100 percent of the area
median income as established by the Hawai`ihousing finance and development
corporation.
Reference: Comm. 1109
Intr. by: Mr. Inaba
Postponed, October 15and November 7, 2024
(Note: There'is a motion by Mr. Inaba, seconded by Ms. Villegas, to recommend
passage of Bill 218 on first reading.)
and
Comm. 1109,1: From Council Member Holeka Goro Inaba, dated October 29, 2024, transmitting
RentComparison Tables.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Chair. I just want to mahalo everyone for the
conservation, Mr. Takai, for his input in our last meeting. So, I'm going to
withdraw this bill and bring us a nice clean version that allows us to set our
affordable rental rates by resolution and provide that flexibility on a year-to-year
basis. So, with that, I will withdraw the motion. Thank you.
Withdraw Bill 218: Mr. Inaba announced the withdrawal of Bill 218.
CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Mr. Clerk, any further action
needed?
MR. HENRICKS: I'm just assuming there are no objections from the rest of the
body, then the bill would be withdrawn from further consideration.
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CHR KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Next item,please.
Bill 226: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants —National Instant Criminal Background
Check Act Record Improvement Program account($15,579); and appropriates the
same to the National Instant Criminal Background Check Act Record
Improvement Program account for a total appropriation of$561,339. Funds
would be used to enhance firearms registration, record keeping, and data
accessibility.
Reference: Comm. 1158
Intr. by: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder(B/R)
Vote on Bill 226: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage,of Bill 226 on
(Approved) first reading. Seconded by Ms. Kimball and carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Evans,Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwadd, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneah'i-Kleinfelder-=8.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI'l-KLEINFELDER: That brings us to the end of our agenda.
ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
MENT: adaourned,the meeting at'11:58 a.m.
Approved:
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair (Date)
Finance Committee
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