HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/01/07 (2024-2026)Committee on Finance
Is' Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
January 7, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 2:02 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member (came in later)
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
Absent & Excused: Ms. Heather Kimball, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Laura Sayre:
(representing the Daniel
Sayre Foundation)
Frank Sayre:
(representing the Daniel
Sayre Foundation)
Shirley David:
(representing St. Michaels
Catholic Church)
Andi Pawasarat-Losalio:
(representing Bridge House)
Comm. 27, in support.
Comm. 27, in support.
Res. 46 (Comm. 67); and
Res. 47 (Comm. 68), in support.
Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
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Ryan Naka:
(representing Project Vision
Hawaii)
Hannah Preston -Pita:
(representing Big Island
Substance Abuse Council)
Russell Hamilton:
(representing Lokahi
Treatment Center)
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Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support
Res. 46 (Comm. 67); and
Res. 47 (Comm. 68), in support.
Les Estrella: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing Going Home Hawaii)
Michelle Manalo: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing Going Home Hawaii)
Koohan Paik-Mander:
Torey Keltner:
(representing the Hawaii
Police Department)
Res. 47 (Comm. 68), in support.
Bill 6 (Comm. 31);
Bill 7 (Comm. 32);
Bill 8 (Comm. 33);
Bill 9 (Comm. 34); and
Bill 13 (Comm. 69), in support.
Roger Christie: Res. 30 (Comm. 28), in support.
(representing the Cannabis Ministry)
Paul Norman:
(representing Neighborhood
Place of Puna)
Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
Mary Ramos: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing the Salvation
Army Family Intervention Services)
Raquel Gali: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing the Salvation
Army Family Intervention Services)
Iopa Mauna Kea: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing Men of Pa`a)
Brandee Menino: Res. 46 (Comm. 67), in support.
(representing Hope Services Hawaii)
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Change Order
of Business:
Res. 46-25:
Austin Martin:
(representing the Libertarian
Party of Hawaii)
Dudley Caravalho:
(representing Roots Advocates
for Youth)
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Res. 30 (Comm. 28), comment.
Res. 45 (Comm. 66), in support.
As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Committee Members, the
following items were taken out of order:
APPROVES THE AWARD OF FUNDS TO VARIOUS NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS FOR PROGRAMS ADDRESSING HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS BY THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT
Proposes 15 grant awards to 9 different nonprofit organizations for a total of
$10,500,000 in funding that was derived from Residential Tier Two property tax
revenues.
Reference: Comm.67
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
(Note: Comm. 67.1, from Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa, dated
January 3, 2025, transmitting additional information to Res. 46-25, was
circulated.)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 46-25. Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We have our Housing and Development
team here. Would you like to say anything before we go to Council Members?
Please introduce yourselves and your new titles, please.
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa and
Assistant Housing Administrator Keiko Mercado came forward to address
the members of the Committee.)
MS. COSTA: Aloha. I'm Kehau Costa, Housing Administrator of the Office of
Housing and Community Development (OHCD); introducing Keiko Mercado,
Assistant Housing Administrator, and thank you for having us here today. So,
today we're asking for your support of Resolution 46-25, awarding funds to
various nonprofit organizations for programs addressing housing and
homelessness through the homelessness and housing fund or HHF, as you've
heard it called today.
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On August 14, 2024, just this last year, the Office of Housing and Community
Development issued a request for proposals (RFP) focused on effectively
reducing homelessness in the number of individuals or the duration and
reoccurrence of homelessness. Proposals were required to align with the
13 strategic roadmap priorities with emphasis on pathways to housing, data
collection, and collaboration with partner agencies. We received 30 proposals
with a total request of just over $34 million. And initial prescreening process
confirmed that all proposals were document ready and met eligibility
requirements as listed in Section 1.3 of the RFP. I want to provide assurance that
these awards have been made in compliance with the appropriate Section of
Chapter 2, Article 25, of the County Code, and we'll answer questions around that
a little later.
A proposal review committee consisting of representatives of the Mayor's Office,
Parks and Recreation, and the OHCD used publicly available scoring rubric to
assess and rank the 30 submissions. With $10.5 million in funding available, the
top 14 ranked projects were selected for full funding and the remaining balance of
funds were allocated to the 151h ranked project for partial funding. The committee
forwarded a recommendation for funding 15 projects from nine organizations.
So, a synopsis of each project has been provided to the Council as an exhibit to
Communication 67.1. These 15 projects will address homelessness and housing
instability across various vulnerable populations. Key efforts include case
management, housing navigation, street medicine, and rental assistance.
Programs also offer recovery housing, counseling, reintegration services for
substance abuse and justice involved individuals.
In that communication that we've provided, we've also provided the detail on
proposed intended outcomes of this year three award, and I hope you had an
opportunity to review that. What I really wanted to talk about a little bit or share
a little bit is this is an award for year three of the fund. In this past year, just the
second year of the fund, OHCD has been in the process of assessing and building
capacity for better management and reporting of this fund and its impact. So,
some of the highlights or the activities we've engaged in, we've hired an in house
Program Data Manager. So, we've just hired someone in house. We are in
procurement of data management software to streamline operations and improve
reporting. We've developed a data dashboard and that will be launched next
month, February, on our website.
Additionally we've contracted SAS Services to consult on design, evaluation, and
administration of the fund moving forward. We are actively engaged with the
consultant team in planning, training, and technical assistance for the
administration and the evaluation of the fund, developing a process and outcomes
evaluation for the fund, communicating the funds outcomes and progress to the
community using data information, and they've just completed widespread
interviews with key stakeholders to gain insights on the fund's activities,
outcomes, and suggested improvements. So, I'm sharing this with you because I
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know that responsibly managing that fund is important to all of us, critically
important, for the funds longevity and I hope you can appreciate the work that
we're doing there.
I actually feel really emotional by the group that's behind us and all the testimony
we heard today. Last year, I got to participate in some of the community practice
convenings and the strength of the team that has grown from this fund and the
way they interact is really impressive. And I see how this fund is building
capacity in our community through the group that I have my back to, I apologize.
I'd also like to maybe ask Keiko to introduce the Community Engagement
Division, where this work is housed, and then we can answer any questions.
MS. MERCADO: Good afternoon. Keiko Mercado, Office of Housing Assistant
Housing Administrator. With us today, on the Community Engagement team, we
have Courtney Vincent; we have Allison Gardner, and Holly Hreha. So, you
folks know that we've had a lot of change happening within the division and our
office, and so we're all kind of transitioning into new positions and we're all
supporting each other as we move through that.
MS. COSTA: So, these three staff are the team, along with Keiko and I, are the
team that are managing this fund. And so, the incredible impact that the
community is doing, we just have three staff in our office managing all of that, so
I wanted to acknowledge them.
CHR. KANEALI`1-KLEINFELDER: Beautiful. Thank you very much for the
overview, Administrator Costa and Assistant Administrator. It's a nice change
and wonderful to have you here today. To the Council Members for questions,
conversation regarding the resolution. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you for being here. You guys have a heavy lift. With
the opportunity of such large funding also comes large responsibility. I was
listening and you mentioned that you guys have now hired an in house data
manager and are investing in software? So, my first question comes, and if I
remember correctly, historically, under the prior administration, one of the
beneficiaries of the fund was actually given the contract to be the data manager.
Correct?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MS. VILLEGAS: So, that's no longer the case.
MS. COSTA: Moving it in house.
MS. VILLEGAS: Moving it in house and hiring a person to do that.
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MS. COSTA: Yes. And that's Holly, and she's new. She was just hired in
December. She just completed her PhD. Really interesting; I just want to share
about Holly is that her PhD was in looking at datasets from various medical
datasets to look at the outcomes of certain environmental factors on health and
longevity. And so, it's just really exciting to have somebody that has been
looking at datasets, collecting datasets through her own PhD work to show the
outcomes and tell the story of how programs or environmental factors can affect
what we're trying to do here.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you. I appreciate that. It's kind of using the IQ
(Intelligence Quotient) and the EQ (Emotional Quotient), right, and connecting
them for outcomes?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MS. VILLEGAS: So, I suppose I was just a little concerned because if I
remember correctly, in a prior report from the prior administration, we had
already funded software to do this. So, I mean, I'm just wondering if you —I get
it, we changed administrations, and a lot of things go back to zero and then have
to be built up again. So, I just wondered what the status of that was or the
software that was purchased by the organization who had been prior contracted to
manage the data. What happened to all that?
MS. COSTA: So, I'll have to give you a report on that later.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay.
MS. COSTA: I don't have that answer now.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. No worries. Just a question. And then; if I heard you
correctly, an outside consultant has been hired to basically do an inventory of the
whole fund, take a look at everything, and then provide a report in order to see
how it's going?
MS. COSTA: Yup.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. When do they anticipate having that; and are you at
liberty to share who that contract is with?
MS. COSTA: SAS Services. And I'll let you know when the contract ends, when
the final report's going to be available.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Just a couple
more questions. As I look through this report, I just find it a little bit confusing
and difficult in the notes, and perhaps this is why the consultant is there and the
data, but I noticed, you know, it's the elephant in the room but not really for me. I
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see two organizations, each one was assigned 24.97 percent of this $10.5 million
and the other organization, another one has been allocated 29.35 percent of this
funding. And as I've stated for years up here, I have questions about the equity
and then the returns. When I do the numbers on $2,622,414, what I can best
guess, because this report is on participants per year at facilities, it totals to 259
people served in that whole year. And then when I do the math, so that's like
$10,000 a person per year, which isn't so bad when we've done math on some of
the other things.
I just have questions, and I'll humbly admit, I have worked closely with an
organization on the Kona side who in one year sent 152 people home and had them
permanently housed, and when I try to do the math here for the number of people
served, it's hard to tell because of the way it's presented. 2,000 engagements per
year, enrolled 60 households, 100 homeless at risk families per year, then it's
engagements with 650 households, participants; the numbers, I just feel like there
has to a better system because I have the fortunate or unfortunate job of sitting here
and speaking the concerns of my constituents and the people who hold me
accountable for what I vote for and support an allocation of funding and how it's
authentically reported and what's getting done for this amount of money.
And thank you for stepping into this role. This is, as much as I would love to
believe that with the right amount of money, we can solve homelessness. I don't
think that's true. I think it's a social epidemic and it's related to too many other
causes. But we do have an obligation to hold the organizations that have been
funded with tens of millions of dollars to provide actual results because my district
is suffering and the people that are trying to provide services, I know it's a really
tough job, but somewhere in the middle, the millions are filtering down and
somehow, it's just not getting us where we need to. So, I'm asking you, I'm
begging. Thank you for those answers, and we can talk offline and let me know
how we can work together.
MS. COSTA: I appreciate your statements and really the challenge of
accountability that you are entrusting us with, me with, in this new administration.
So, I appreciate it.
MS. VILLEGAS: Thank you. Likewise, likewise. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHI: Thank you. Good afternoon. I guess I'm new, so I don't know
about this right. I guess this started from last year.
MS. COSTA: Two years ago.
MR. ONISHI: Two years ago.
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MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. So, you mentioned earlier, I guess, they had to go through a
process of being awarded, right?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MS. KAGIWADA: And so, from this list of 15 organizations, how many times —
so this is like their third and final or the second?
MS. COSTA: Not always. No. So, it's an annual proposal.
MR. ONISHL• But the funding comes every year.
MS. COSTA: Every year, annually.
MR. ONISHI: Okay.
MS. COSTA: And it's a five year fund.
MR. ONISHI: Five year fund.
MS. COSTA: Five year fund.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. So, for five years, we get this money, right?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. So, out of this 15, how many of these organizations got it
from last year?
MS. COSTA: I can give you a report on that. I'm not entirely sure if it's in the
communication that we sent to you but if it's not then I —
MR. ONISHI: It's kind of like the one that you sent on January 3`d .
MS. COSTA: Yes. And I can let you know who are returning, what programs are
being re -funded, and what are some of the new programs.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. So, my question is, like you said you had how many,
70 something?
MS. COSTA: 30 proposals.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah, 30 proposals. And so, 15 got.
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MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. ONISHI: To me, I would like to see it being spread among the different
services because every organization from what I've seen before when I was on the
Council, it kind of like, everybody does almost so much of the same, right, but
then it's just different organizations. So, if somehow you guys could work with
the ones that never got any funding and see how you guys can help them to
qualify, right, to be awarded?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. ONISHI: So, they can at least expand their program or at least provide more
services from their side.
MS. COSTA: Agreed.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah, okay.
MS. COSTA: You know, that's the challenge with that. It is competitive. And
there are organizations that have been funded in the past and did not receive
funding just based on how their proposal came in and was ranked this year.
There's new organizations. You know, I didn't get to say aloha to Iopa, but he's
one of the new organizations that has applied for funding the past two years, Men
of Pa`a. So, it is nice to see new organizations building capacity to apply
appropriate proposals and be funded, but it's not without the acknowledgement of
organizations that were not funded, and some of those organizations provided
excellent services in past years. It's one of the challenges of this fund, not being a
multiyear contract, so some organizations receive funding and really ramp up and
when they don't receive funding the following year, it has consequences in our
community. So, your point is noted, and I think it also goes to Rebecca's point on
some organizations that have been funded in that past and did good work. We're
working with our consultants to look at that and to see how we can better
administer the fund.
MR. ONISHI: Because usually like how I see it in the past was that we help with
starting up, right. It's not a continuous where the County is going to be providing
this funding every year and you're going to depend on that. They need to look out,
right, into other areas too and then see how they can create their revenue to help
provide those services, right. And that's what, you know, I want to see that, if that
can happen. And the last thing is, so those that had repeated awarded, do you folks
have some kind of data on their success rate?
MS. COSTA: Yes. So, you know, and just a reminder that year one; we've
completed year one, we're in completion of year two. So, the data is coming in.
But this program is really in its infancy in that respect. So, as we're awarding year
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three, we're collecting our data on year two, and we should have an impact report
out shortly for year two. So, it is a relatively new fund.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. And then like you have goals set for these organizations that
have repeated funding that they got us that's excelling more and more and more,
right, yeah, not just being sustainable?
MS. COSTA: Yes. Yes.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. Good. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Hustace.
MR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Chair. Good afternoon, Administrator. Thank you
for your time. Just to the point of my fellow Council Members, I think it's a
challenge, right, with trying to give out equitable funds across the board. But I
don't know if that is necessarily effective for the programs that were trials and
trying to run. You know, maybe they need the full amount of the funding. So, I
hear you on that and trying to find that balance. Happy to work on, you know,
trying to understand that and what we can do more effectively there. Would it be
possible to —I think last year the previous administration delivered some budget
forms to kind of match the funds that were requested to kind of see as part of the
communication, the funds they received, the budget requests that kind of came in
from the different agencies and community partners to kind of see how that all
matches up as this goes to Council, if that would be alright?
And then the last point I kind of wanted to make is about sustainability. You
mentioned sustainability a little bit. You know, the ordinance that this put into
effect has a shelf life and, you know, it would be good to have a conversation with
the office if this should be extended and with the community partners, if we should
be extending this or are we on a path of setting them up, you know, as Member
Onishi said, that they can go off on their own; are they there yet; what can we do to
help them, you know, be there in a comfortable place, or do we need to kind of put
more guardrails up and keep supporting these impacts on our community? I mean,
the testimony received is, you know, it's heartbreaking. And the affect that they're
doing in our community to really support our different districts and our residents.
So, I'm grateful for the work that they're doing and just curious to see how we can
affect this going forward, whether we extend it or what more we can do to support
them. So, thank you.
MS. COSTA: Thank you.
MR. HUSTACE: I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Inaba.
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MR. INABA: Thank you, Chair. Mahalo, Administrator, for the extra
information provided. And I think it just speaks to, you know, I always talk about
our grants and across all offices and departments of the County, how are we
putting grants out there; how are we reporting on it? Because you folks do it
different from us and we do it differently from PONC (Public Access, Open
Space, and Natural Resources Preservation) maintenance, and we really need to
get on the same page there. I always bring that up with Director Nakagawa, and I
believe we're going to head in that direction with this new administration. For the
position for managing data, is that funded by this program's funds?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. INABA: Okay. So, it's not a permanent position then?
MS. COSTA: No.
MR. INABA: Got it. And then, yes, going back to what Council Member
Villegas said, that data reporting, there was a contract for that, was that from the
first year or the second year; do we remember?
MS. COSTA: First and second year.
MR. INABA: Okay. Both. Okay. So, as you folks worked towards getting that
management, is the idea to hopefully be able to build off of what we had
previously funded?
MS. COSTA: Yes and then bringing it in house.
MR. INABA: Okay. Someone in the audience nodded their head when we talked
about supporting some of those who were not qualified. How did that happen?
And I don't know if your staff wants to come up to explain that for the 15 who
were not awarded, how were they supported to try and make sure that they were
given the best chance to be successful?
MS. MERCADO: So it looks a little different for each year. The first year there
were a few organizations that were not funded but the team really felt like the
programs were important, so we sought other funding to support those
organizations and have included them in our community of practice as we went
forward. And then this year, I think what the nod was about was us meeting with
the organizations that were not awarded, that were not going to be awarded, to go
through their applications and kind of point out the questions that the evaluators
had and maybe some of the concerns and then provide any insights that might
help them for the next round.
MR. INABA: Okay. So, when I compared this information with the next
resolution, the next resolution showed which organizations had applied that were
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not awarded and which were disqualified. Can we also get that information for
this resolution just so we can see, you know, what that total ask was; what the
potential outcomes were proposed by those organizations?
And then, I don't believe that the ordinance, when this was passed, specified like
a year to year grant application process. Is that something that is required
somewhere, or did that get put into rules of the office? I'm just wondering if we
can transition. Obviously, we're at year three now of five. I don't support
continued funding in the current mechanism based on the real property tax
system. I think we have to reevaluate that. But if we are going to continue, I'm
wondering if we have that ability to go for two or three year contracts so we're
giving the nonprofits also the opportunity to carry out and they're not coming
year for year to try and get funding again.
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. INABA: So, that's an option then?
(Note: At this time, Deputy Corporation Counsel Sylvia Wan came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. WAN: Deputy Corporation Counsel Sylvia Wan. I'm also Counsel for
Office of Housing and Community Development, so I do provide them legal
guidance. As far as the contracts being for one year, my understanding is that the
funding is annual, so they are provided a certain amount of funding based on the
income that happens for that particular fiscal year and that is what is governing
the fact that the contract is for one year because they don't know, and they can't
anticipate what the funding is going to be for next year. And in this instance,
because the funding is supposed to be for programs and services, the contracts are
just that, just one year for programs and services.
So, if it is going to extend into multiyear, there will probably need to be an
amendment to the ordinance right now that allows for this fund. Preferably, it
would allow for maybe revolving funds. So, this is a completely different fund as
far as the way that it's set up than like the affordable housing production fund,
which does allow for that rollover.
MR. INABA: Is there anything that prevents us though from actually because we
know that we have this amount this coming year to be spent, so what prevents us
from using that money across multiple years? We're not tapping into future
funding. We're assigning this year's allotted amount across multiple years
moving forward.
MS. WAN: So the contract itself, the term can extend longer, but the money they
are going to be spending would just be from this year. So, at this point, when
they're asking for proposals, they're asking for proposals that would be for this
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year's funding. And they have extended for programs that have not met all of
their deliverables within the one-year timeframe. There has been short extensions
to allow them to finish their work with no additional funding. So, that has
happened and that is allowable under the ordinances. But if you're talking about
them doing contracts for multiple years, getting funds for multiple years, that's a
completely different animal, legally speaking.
MR. INABA: Okay. I think we need to have more discussion with Finance
because I don't think this one year model is working in the best interest of our
deliverables and I'm seeing a lot of nods from office staff and recipients. So,
something we can maybe revisit together, yeah. Okay. Thank you, Deputy.
MS. WAN: There's always room for improvement.
MR. INABA: And then lastly, yeah, I'm going to follow up on how our funding
mechanism is working, whereas some of our funding is a set amount and I know
we are doing others with real property, you know, what is it, 25 percent of the-
75 percent of the tier two amount, over $2 million. Administrator (Lisa) Miura
from Real Property Tax is here, and I don't know, especially for such a new
program, I think the intension was good but it's almost like runaway funding now
with the assessments of our real property tax having grown recently. So,
something that maybe we need to revisit at such time that this five year period is
going to expire and, you know, really talk story ahead of time to make sure that
we're planning accordingly and able to get those funds out and use it effectively
for our community. So, thank you, Administrator, and let's talk story regarding
how to present information for grants at least until we all, as a County, can get on
the same system together so we have the information we need here at Council.
Thank you.
MS. COSTA: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you, Chair. Thank you all for being here; thank you,
Administrator, Assistant Administrator, for bringing this additional information;
and for all the testifiers. You really brought forth amazing progress and work
that's being done with this funding. I do want to just bring something up because
I don't want to leave the public and other people with the impression that, I think,
might have been made earlier, which is if you could speak to a little bit about;
there are different people experiencing homelessness that have varying, varying
different needs. Some could be as simple as a plane ticket somewhere. And those
numbers could seem like that's the easiest, best way to use our money because
they're simple and we can get it. But there are people who are born and raised
here, have been homeless for 30 years, have addiction issues, justice involved
issues; that is not going to be the same amount of support and funding needed to
help that person get into a situation that's better than the other person. So, I just
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want to make sure that we're not comparing apples and oranges. So, if you have
any input on that, I'd love to hear it.
MS. COSTA: I'm definitely not the expert. It's such a complex issue. I just feel
really privileged that I was with Office of Housing last year as the Section 8
Division Manager and I had the opportunity to be invited to some of the trainings
and community of practice events that community engagement held, and I learned
a lot. And that's what's really hard about reporting on the data because some
people might need just rental assistance, and maybe just for a month, and that's
one touchpoint. Some people need something every single day. And so, you
know, just looking at the transaction numbers or the engagement numbers, it's
really hard to just look at the number. And that's what we're working on, looking
at the data, but also showing the impact.
You know, and I also know that I'm part of the community, we often focus on the
visible homeless and we don't always see that decreasing but just learning how
many people are sleeping cars, just to go to work, and you don't see those cars
along the highway if you don't wake up early enough to get out there. But just
knowing there are a lot of families in our community experiencing homelessness
that we don't see. And some of those families, we are able to help but it's not as
visible as, you know, our visible homeless. So, it's just such a complex issue.
And I hope we're making a really significant impact, and I hope the community
can appreciate that.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you so much. Yeah, I just hope as we get this really
important valuable data that along with it, we have some context that's written up
with it so that it's not just, let's look at these numbers. We should just put all of
our money in this thing because it's a better bang for our buck. But that isn't
necessarily who we need to reach and who we need to help. You know, it's a
very complex issue. I know the folks out here understand it way better than I do.
But I just don't want to leave the public with this idea that if we simply look at
who is effectively, you know, taking care of numbers at a certain rate, and if we
just put all our money there, we'd be done, and it's just not like that. It's so
complicated with all the different needs out there.
MS. COSTA: Multiple strategies.
MS. KAGIWADA: Yeah. And I will just say, from my perspective, I have heard
back from people in the downtown Hilo area that they have seen some
improvement. So, I'm very thankful for that because I think some of those folks
have been, you know, needing those multiple touchpoints every day, hardest
people to reach, and I think some of those people are getting the help they need so
I'm very thankful for everybody here and for the work you're doing.
MS. COSTA: I am as well. Thank you.
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MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. I also want to thank all the folks here that work
around this issue. It's so, so important. I think it's really great that you're getting
a consultant to help with the data and the presentation of that so that the work
that's being done can be properly acknowledged and presented. It's not an easy
thing.
You know, and the other thing is, I mean, I think this funding is really important
because it addresses —I give kudos to the former Council Members that set this up
because there's structural issues in our society and on our island that are not going
away and that are actually getting worse. So, I think we really need to stick with
it. And I love that in some ways the funding source almost, it tries to balance out
the problem by getting funding. You know, the very rich basically are helping the
folks that are being impacted by some of the affordability trends that are hurting
people here. So, I do think we really need to stick together.
The think that I think would be really interesting for me would be to see, I think
we're a little early at this point, but to see if there's any flow from the homeless
fund to the affordable production fund because that's really where we want to go.
We need to get the housing that's affordable so that we, at least some portion of
the population, can move from one fund to the other. So, in looking at the data,
I'd love to be able to see if we could start to make progress around that. Thank
you, everyone, for the work you do.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. For my freshman colleagues, this
program was established by former Council Chairman Aaron Chung. In his
wisdom, he coordinated, you know, presentations from community to kind of
speak to the issues that they were facing on the ground dealing with, you know,
individuals experiencing homelessness island -wide and talking about there being
very little flexible funding to implement programs that make sense for our island
community. A lot of restrictions from state and federal government and so he
recognized the opportunity to create something that was community driven,
government supported.
And to your point, Council Member Galimba, we are in the infancy of this and,
you know, kudos to everybody that is working tirelessly in this space with so
much compassion and innovation to serve our most needy and vulnerable. You
are doing God's work, and I have nothing but tremendous gratitude for you. And
thank you, Administrator and Assistant, for kind of stepping into this and helping
to continue to champion this work. There's a lot of work to do. There's a lot of
refinement that can be done in this program.
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I'm very excited to have Holly on board to evaluate the progress we've made
according to the roadmap that was architected for this fund. There were themes
and priorities that were identified several years ago. It'd be really interesting to
see how much progress we've made in the last few years. And so, I'm hoping at
Council in two weeks, I believe January 22°d, we could get a sense of where SAS
Services is on the contract and exactly what they're scope is. If there's a little bit
of room to do a little bit more based on the kind of data and information we're
hoping to see, we'd love to be able to relay that at that time. But I think that the
work that our community partners are doing is so critical.
Over the last few years I've gotten to know Michelle Kauhane with Hawaii
Community Foundation quite well. And she said, "Ash, there's no way you're
going to make folks that work in nonprofits especially social services
sustainable." They're not running a business. They're doing work that
government cannot do. So, it's our job as philanthropy and government to
support the amazing work that they're doing.
Again, lots of room for improvement within the program. I do want to challenge
ourselves to figure out ways we can do multiyear contracts but also, have a better
sense of all of the County funding that nonprofit organizations are getting and
also who's not getting. Don't forget we have the Waiwai grant program that the
Council runs and each of us have pretty generous contingency relief funding. I
think braiding all of those resources together will be just enough to help all of our
nonprofits do the good work that they're doing. So, we're here to support you.
I'll be supporting this resolution, and please come with more information to the
Council meeting. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHI: Thank you. Maybe Corporation Counsel might want to come up.
So, you talked about like we have families that are living in cars and so forth,
right? Now, just hearing about the funding that we're getting now, it's like not
restrictive too much like federal or state, right, guidelines?
MS. WAN: Yes. When you're talking about federal funding and you're talking
about state funding, there's usually a number of general terms and conditions for
those types of entities.
MR. ONISHI: Right. Correct.
MS. WAN: I mean, right now I'm talking generally, but like federal has their
own procurement standards and they will make sure that also grantees comply
with those some procurement standards and like.
MR. ONISHI: So, my thought is like Section 8, the funding that you folks
provide the rental assistance, it's limited right? And you folks are to a limit
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already where there's a waiting list, right? So, could we use some of these funds
to help with that subsidy?
MS. WAN: So, my understanding of that kind of thing is it would have to come
in as a proposal for a program in order for that type of work to be done. My
understanding is they're already a rent subsidy program.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah. So, within the Housing, right?
MS. WAN: Within what's already being presented to —
MR. ONISHI: Yeah, so what I'm saying is like a portion of this given back to
Housing so you guys can continue to write more subsidies for rental assistance.
MS. WAN: So, are you asking them to hold back funding?
MR. ONISHI: No.
MS. WAN: Because right now they're allotted a certain amount, and I think it
was $10.5 million this year. And so, they've allocated all of the funds.
MR. ONISHI: No, I understand.
MS. WAN: I'm sorry. Maybe I'm not understanding.
MR. ONISHI: So, moving forward what I'm asking is if it's possible to use a
portion like say even like one percent or two percent or five percent of the total,
and that goes back to County Housing to help with Section 8, with the assisting of
the rental because this is being coordinated with the County, right; this is property
tax?
MS. COSTA: I understand what you're saying. That would be us administering
that program.
MR. ONISHI: Correct.
MS, COSTA: Over the past maybe two years, we've had the emergency rental
assistance program. So, we do have a program existing right now that helps with
rental assistance, so we haven't needed to use additional funds for rental
assistance. But I absolutely understand what you're saying. Some of our
programs that are funded through this program are providing rental assistance and
sometimes it's for specific vulnerable populations, like the justice involved, you
know, to help them with housing. That might not be the case for this, but some of
the programs do offer rental assistance through their programs.
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MR. ONISHI: But there's a possibility it could go back; a portion could go back
to you guys? Council, we can reword it, or we can, you know, like amend the
requirements.
MS. COSTA: I think anything is possible, but the details, we'd have to work at
the details.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah.
MS. COSTA: I understand what you're saying though. I do know what you're
asking. Could we provide more rental assistance?
MR. ONISHI: Yeah, because then, like you seeing, back on the Council, I did
hear stories about families living in cars down in the bayfront area like that, right?
So, we were looking at trying to establish a parking area where the families could
go and stay there and they would have, I guess, the showers and the restrooms
that they could go to, right, and it was a safe place where they would have
security for them, you know, for protection. But, yeah, so I just was thinking
outside the box, maybe there's a possibility, you know, how we can help.
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. Thanks.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Yeah, quickly. I think that's a good point, Vice Chair Onishi, with
regards to we might have priorities within the office that we don't have other
funding for and if we can just allocate some of this funding. And I know the
former administrator would require staff to submit applications. I personally
think that's a waste of time. You know, you folks have direct oversight over your
own office and if we need to bolster up some of the Section 8 and, you know, you
took care of that division and that program, so that might be something that we
can really try and follow up on with what Council Member Onishi mentioned.
And I had one other thing, but the day is getting long, and I forgot now. But
thank you again for being here.
MS. COSTA: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Ms. Miura, I have a question.
You may not be able to answer it but it's just a wandering thought. I know you're
here for something else, but it does relate to this. I was looking at the background
report. Please introduce yourself.
(Note: At this time, Real Property Tax Administrator Lisa Miura came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
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MS. MIURA: Real Property Tax Administrator Lisa Miura.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. So, I'm looking at it and I like
when they do the background report. March 23, 2022, County of Hawaii past
Ordinance 22-26, which appropriates 75 percent of tier two property tax revenues
for the next five years to address homelessness and housing. Question for you is,
tier two property tax revenue, has it increased because of our assessments? Yes.
That's interesting.
MS. MIURA: Yes.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Because, yeah, the rates don't change.
Thank you, Mr. Inaba.
MS. MIURA: Well, the tax rates could change but we haven't changed it.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Could change? But we didn't. We
actually decreased them for certain categories, not this one.
MS. MIURA: Correct.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: But so, the assessments going up, then the
revenues increase. So, this dollar amount that we're talking about right now
increases as well. If the assessments go down, which is currently what's trending,
then this dollar amount would decrease?
MS. MIURA: I wouldn't say it's trending for us quite yet, but if it does go down,
then yes.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. So, right now we're holding steady?
MS. MIURA: Correct.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: With the potential five year window for
this fund specifically.
MS. MIURA: Two years left to go after this.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Two years left to go. So, we should be
holding around the same dollar amount; it's not going to fluctuate crazily, I would
think?
MS. MIURA: Well, I'm not good at two years into the future. This year, I think
we're doing okay considering there's also been some construction in the area.
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Vote on Res. 46-25:
(Approved)
January 7, 2025
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah,
ultimately, I'm looking to two resolutions; 46 and 47. Between the two of them,
it's about $23 million, $24 million. What I heard today, what I like is
accountability. $10 million does a lot of work in the County regardless of what's
it's being applied to. That's new community centers; that is homeless projects;
that is anything and everything. So, accountability for taxpayer dollars to the tune
of $10 million is important and I like the accountability piece. Yeah, so, agree.
And thank you for the information you provided today. I was going to ask if any
grant awards were less than $25,000, but you explained that there weren't any,
yeah? Okay.
I like this being done in the community. This fund, to me, was always meant to
address homelessness and there's a lot of aspects of homelessness, but the key to
this was always homelessness. We have housing funds; we have other funds for
housing. I know this can be applied to housing. I don't like that. I want this
focused on homeless and addressing homelessness, and I'm going to keep
hammering on that because that was my original thought for this and that was the
original intention of this bill, and I like that. It can be addressed into things that
you need, but homelessness was the key component of this fund and it's being
taken, as Ms. Galimba said, from I guess mostly the west side of the island at
properties valued at over $2 million. So, I'd like to see a point reflecting that. So,
thank you for doing the work and thank you for providing the information. I think
we have some homework to do before coming back to Council.
MS. COSTA: Yes. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Council Members? Okay, seeing
nothing further, motion is on the floor. All in favor?
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 46-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 47-25, please.
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Res. 47-25: APPROVES THE AWARD OF FUNDS TO VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS
FOR PROGRAMS ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY THE
OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Allows for grant awards to Hale Ola O Mohouli LLLP ($3,200,000) and Kuakini
Family I LP ($5,000,000) for the development of affordable rental units and
$5,075,000 to be retained by the Office of Housing and Community Development
for the development of 25 single-family dwellings for workforce housing
($4,200,000) and to provide financial assistance to 17 low-income homeowners to
conduct essential repair work ($875,000).
Reference: Comm.68
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
(Note: Comm. 68.1, from Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa, dated
December 30, 2024, transmitting additional information to Res. 47-25, was
circulated.)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 47-25. Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We have the department here again. Do
you want to open anything for this resolution, or you want to go to questions from
the Council? Let's go to questions from the Council. If there are any then you
can kind of shoot back. Okay, Council Members, anything on the resolution?
Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Yes. Can you please give us the overview? Thank you. And then
I think if you could just distinguish also between the two funds to make sure
everyone's clear on what the purpose is for each of them?
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. COSTA: Yes. So, Kehau Costa, Housing Administrator. I also have Royce
Shiroma here with me today, so he can help answer some questions. Brief
overview, we're asking for support of Resolution 47-25, approving the award of
these funds to various organizations for programs addressing affordable housing.
This fund, the affordable housing production fund is made possible through
Ordinance 22-77, which appropriates at least $5 million per year for the Office of
Housing and Community Development to facilitate programs that support
affordable housing production in the County of Hawaii.
In January, we initiated the process to amend the AHP (Affordable Housing
Program) program administrative rules. So, this fund does have administrative
rules. So we amended those administrative rules to enhance the program's overall
effectiveness. We went to public comment and public hearing on those rules. We
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gathered community feedback on the County's affordable housing needs and key
input from these meetings highlighted the need for homeownership incentives
addressing gap group needs, which is the above 80 percent to 140 percent AMI
(Area Median Income) housing, workforce housing development, infrastructure
development to support housing construction. So, those were the key inputs from
community meetings.
Based on that community feedback, we updated the goals and priorities for this
year, 2024-2025; we prioritized the three goals and priorities for this fund for this
year; were to prioritize the gap group. So, prioritizing projects that serve
households earning between 81 percent and 140 percent of the AMI. That focus
aimed to expand traditionally subsidized projects typically targeted at the lower,
below 80 percent AMI. So, this includes units up to 140 percent AMI.
The second priority was homeownership incentives, prioritizing homeownership
incentives such as for sale housing, down payment assistance, and rent to own
models, specifically catering to workforce families within the 81 to 140 percent
AMI bracket.
And the third priority was new construction and adaptive reused, prioritizing new
construction and adaptive reuse projects to address demands for both new
construction and adaptive reuse solutions, transforming existing buildings into
residential spaces.
After incorporating these priorities into the RFP, we issued the RPF in May.
OHCD received 13 proposals totaling approximately $48 million in funding
request. Each proposal was reviewed in accordance with the AHP program
administrative rules and the program proposal guide. And Royce is here, he can
present on the proposed projects, and we have some of the projects available also.
And we can answer any questions from there.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Administrator. Mr. Shiroma, I just want to put a plug
in for you and your team, the information provided in this packet clearly explains
all the projects. So, four of them, right; or is it five? Yeah, four of them. The
able explains it and you folks went into detail. So, no questions for you folks.
thank you. And Administrator, when we're looking at funding for future years, I
know this current fiscal year we had $9 million. Are you advocating for the same
amount or do we anticipate going to the required five in this upcoming fiscal
year?
MS. COSTA: We advocate for as much as we can fund.
MR. INABA: Perfect. No, this looks like really great projects and just mahalo,
Council Member Kierkiewicz, it looks like the work that you put in and the
ordinance that this Council passed those years ago is really starting to catch
traction now. So, thank you. I look forward to supporting this.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay, see no discussion
except for—nope. Okay, seeing no discussion. Council Members, motion is on
the floor. Thank you very much. Good job, Housing and Community
Development team.
MS. KAGIWADA: I have a quick question.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Ms. Kagiwada, go ahead.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Just a quick question. For these projects, can
these be for profits as well as nonprofits or are they all nonprofits?
(Note: At this time, Economic Development Specialists Royce Shiroma
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. SHIROMA: These actually, two of them are for profit. However, the
eligible entities can be nonprofit also and government agencies. Two of them are
also government agencies; one of them is the Community Development Division
in our office, who we do —
MS. KAGIWADA: Yeah.
MR. SHIROMA: And the other one is for the RRP (Residential Repair Program),
which Courtney at Community Engagement handles that.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Alright. I'm interested in as we go forward with this
and if we have more nonprofits out there willing to do some of this work, I guess I
would feel better about urging us to go that direction as opposed to potentially
doing projects that put profit in developers pocket.
MR. SHIROMA: So far, the only nonprofit that actually has gone forward and
applied and received funding is the land trust.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Okay. Thank you. Just something to, I guess, keep
out there in our discussions going forward. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Seeing no discussion,
Council Members, motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 47-25 to Council
with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
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The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 47-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Let's go back to the top of the agenda,
Mr. Clerk. Communication 23.
The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business.
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Communications.
Comm. 23: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JUNE 16 — 30 AND
OCTOBER 16 — 31 2024
From Controller Kay Oshiro, dated November 15, 2024.
Vote on Comm. 23: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 23.
Filed Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item, please.
Comm. 23. 1: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: NOVEMBER 1 — 15 2024
From Acting Controller Kay Oshiro, dated December 2, 2024.
Motion to Close File: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 23.1.
Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, we do have the Fire
Department here. Just give us an overview on this because this is a substantial
amount of funding.
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(Note: At this time, Deputy Fire Chief Daniel Volpe came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. VOLPE: Yeah, absolutely. Deputy Chief Daniel Volpe, Hawaii Fire
Department. So, what this is, is a transfer from lease funds for equipment
purchases. In anticipation of Fire Department, that big apparatus fire trucks, very
expensive, we're usually on a lease to own package. So what that means is the
lease payments are in a line item within the budget. So, what we've created today
was a bunch of leases that actually were paid in full, which resulted in an excess
amount of money into that line item with that lease payments.
With permission and discussion with Finance Director, we were able to repurpose
some of those funds and then transfer them into some of these additional
purchases. It does not affect any future leases; it's just part of the line item.
Essentially, when we're looking at the two purchases here, $55,000, that's an
MSA supplied air system. That is different from the air packs that we wear when
we walk into structure fires. What this is, is kind of a long; this is for confined
space rescue. Any of our specialized rescue or specialized hazmat companies that
have to go underground, below grade, basement, you know, people that fall into
silos or pipes or any confined space area, it's what gives them a lot longer travel
time and then a much more continuous air supply. In order to provide kind of
required training to maintain OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health
Administration) standards for our hazmat company, that equipment is required for
that.
The second purchase you see there is going to be primary for a brush truck
vehicle that's a replacement for Honoka`a. That brush truck has been through its
bases over the last 15 to 20 years. Considering in that district, we've got Waipi`o
Valley, we've got all the mauka areas, Kalopa, Pauka`a, a lot of those. And then
come the makai side, a lot of those kind of areas, kind of bridges, a lot of old
areas. So, what they need is a lighter, more nimble vehicle. The vehicle they
have has been through 20 years of active use. This is a replacement for that
vehicle. So, these funds that are transferred over are just repuiposing this existing
lease money.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you.
MR. VOLPE: Sure thing.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Questions?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: No. Just a comment. Fire Chief, I'm just so impressed
with the depth of knowledge that you possess and how prepared you are for our
questions. So, thank you for being here.
MR. VOLPE: Yup, my pleasure. Thank you.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Seeing no further
discussion, motion is on the floor to close file on Communication 23.1, all in
favor?
Vote on Comm. 23.1: The motion to close file on Comm. 23.1 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item, please.
Comm. 23.2: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JUNE 16 — 30 AND
NOVEMBER 16 — 30 2024
From Acting Controller Kay Oshiro, dated December 12, 2024.
Vote on Comm. 23.2: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 23.2.
Filed Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
Comm. 24: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: OCTOBER 16 — 31 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated November 21, 2024, transmitting
the above pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
Motion to Close File: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 24.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion?
MS. GALIMBA: Yes.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Galimba, go ahead.
MS. GALIMBA: I just would like some explanation of the first line item that the
buses; it's a very large amount.
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(Note: At this time, Acting Mass Transit Administrator Jennifer Martin
and Finance Manager Kelly Anne Fujii came forward to address the
members of the Committee.)
MS. MARTIN: Hi. Good afternoon. I'm Acting Administrator Jennifer Martin
for the Mass Transit Agency. Our Administrator is on vacation. Here I have
Kelly Anne Fujii, our Finance person. So, in regard to the extra funds on our bus
purchase, that amount of money included other items that are needed to help track
what our bus does.
So for example, it includes safety vision to keep our riders safe and also to help
use GPS (Global Positioning System) to find where our buses are located. It also
included an Amerex fire detection system to let the driver know, should their
engine be on fire. A B400 retarder upgrade is part of the transmission that helps
with all of our hills and all of our terrain that our island has so that it reduces the
amount of wear and tear on the actual brake system of the bus; aluminum rims,
which act better in the weather condition that we have here. Our Rosco stainless
steel side arms are just another item that helps with weather; and Genfare
fareboxes are for when we do start to charge riders for fares again. The queue
strength, queue pod positions are for our ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act)
compliance. GMV is another GPS system that we have. Our Sportsworks three -
position bike rack is that the riders can use the buses with their bicycles. Then we
also increased our security options on the vehicles just to make sure that riders as
well as drivers are safe. That's pretty much the additional items that were put into
the bus build after the original build was approved.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you very much. That all sounds very reasonable. I
guess I was just wondering; number one, easy question, how many buses; is that
seven?
MS. MARTIN: Eight.
MS. GALIMBA: Eight buses.
MS. MARTIN: Yeah.
MS. GALIMBA: I guess, next question would be are those items then going to be
included in any orders going forward so that we don't have the same kind of
overage?
MS. MARTIN: Yes. That is correct. I believe that some of the items were left
out of the original build by our previous administrator prior to Mr. Kandle. So,
our other, other administrator. So, when the original specs for this build was
submitted it lacked items that are already on our existing fleet. So, moving
forward, we are looking to standardize the different options that will be included
into our specs for our vehicle purchases.
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MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. And when will these buses get here or are they
already here?
MS. MARTIN: So, one is actually scheduled to arrive sometime this month and
the other seven are supposed to be here around March, I believe, March of 2025.
MS. GALIMBA: Thanks. So, this additional million something just comes out of
your budget? It already was in there, but you just needed to cover this additional
amount, correct?
MS. MARTIN: Correct.
MS. GALIMBA: Thanks. That's all my questions. I don't know if anyone else
has others. Thanks.
MS. MARTIN: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yeah. Thanks for clarifying this up. There's some more to my
questions. How many buses; why the additions were needed; and the original
build was approved by then not prior Administrator John Andoh, but then
whoever was before him?
MS. MARTIN: I think it was —go ahead.
MS. FUJII: By John Andoh, yes.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. It was by John Andoh. But it hadn't, I feel like this is
like a list of how to pimp your bus, you know, like a pimp my ride kind of a thing.
But I can see, you know, the need for these things and I do appreciate all the hard
work that's been put into getting our transportation division and our buses and
everything up into the 21" century. And so, in comparison to when I started
serving in this role until now, the difference is massive. So, thank you for that
and thank you for stepping in, in this interim while your boss is on vacation.
MS. MARTIN: Thank you.
MS. VILLEGAS: But yeah, thanks. So, if I got this correct though, the original
contract before was about $1.3 million and then it added another $1 million, but
then it says, cumulative $4.922 million.
MS. FUJII: So, originally it was $1.2 million, that is correct. That was originally
for just two buses. And then we added on six more buses, which resulted in
$3.8 million to be added onto the $1.2 million. So, around $5 million. And then
we had added on that additional options to the buses.
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MS. VILLEGAS: See, now that makes a lot of sense because I was like, wow,
this is a really expensive pimp my ride.
MS. FUJII: But yeah, it's for eight buses.
MS. VILLEGAS: It's for eight buses. Great. Because it's an increase of
380 percent, but also you got six more buses. Thank you. That helps clarify why
the number went so big. I yield. That's perfect.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Actually, a question for Civil Defense.
Mr. Uehara, just hoping to get an update on the progress being made under your
leadership for our County's radio system.
(Note: At this time, Radio Systems Manager Scott Uehara came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. UEHARA: Good afternoon. Scott Uehara, Radio Systems Manager with
the Hawaii County Civil Defense Agency.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So it says here, rescheduling deployment and installation
services of Motorola and changes to equipment needed to be added to our
emergency call center. Original contract date for this work was 2014, so a lot of
progress over the last decade. I'm just trying to understand where we are with
this work?
MR. UEHARA: Sure. So, the original date, that's the original date that the
whole system was procured. Are you referring to just the items for the call center
or for every single change order that we have on this?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: No. Just for this change order for the radio system. Yup.
MR. UEHARA: Sure. So, the facility has been certified to occupy. So, we have
been installing the equipment with our contractor, Motorola, and then their
subcontractors have also been installing the additional equipment. All of the
console positions have been installed and currently this week we're working on
configuration right now.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. And when can we anticipate being wrapped up with
this work?
MR. UEHARA: There's still some items that need to be installed and we're still
waiting for some of these items. One of them is an internet connection so that we
can get remote monitoring on the system.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Is that something you're working with IT (Information
Technology) to coordinate?
MR. UEHARA: Yes. IT and the Police Department.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Great. You feel everything's on track for the
project?
MR. UEHARA: Yes. As well as it can be.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Great. Thank you for being here. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Is anyone from
Housing still here? Royce, maybe you can help me on this one? The Vibrant
Hawaii contract for the community based social services navigators pilot
program. Thank you. Sorry, Keiko, it's got your name on it. But is the Vibrant
Hawaii Social Services Navigator's Pilot Program with Vibrant. It's a
communication; it was a change order for the total price of their program. It looks
like the original contract amount was $800,000. We're increasing by $590,000.
So, 14 navigators?
(Note: At this time, Assistant Housing Administrator Keiko Mercado
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. MERCADO: And a program manager.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And a program manager. So, is this a one-
time shot or this is a program we're running.
MS. MERCADO: Keiko Mercado, Assistant Housing Administrator for the
Office of Housing. So, this is an expansion of the program that was originally
started. And these community navigators, it's kind of an adjustment. The first
part of the program started with navigators in each district and then very quickly,
Vibrant Hawaii noticed the need was greater than that, and so they made
adjustments. And so, in some districts where the need is heavier or the
geographic area is larger, they've added additional navigators. And the work has
also gotten more complex.
Initially the idea was for the navigators to operate out of the hubs that are on the
island and connect community to the different resources that are available,
whether it be SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits or
emergency rental assistance, but they very quickly found that the needs were
much greater than that so they're doing a little bit of everything.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Where did the funding come from for this?
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MS. MERCADO: This is ARPA (American Rescue Plan Act) SLFRF (State and
Local Fiscal Recovery Funds).
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: ARPA funding. Okay. Thank you.
MS. MERCADO: You're welcome.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Seeing no further discussion, we do
have the motion on the floor to close file on Communication 24. All in favor?
Vote on Comm. 24: The motion to close file on Comm. 24 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kimball and Villegas — 2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 24.1: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: NOVEMBER 1 — 15 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated December 11, 2024, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
Vote on Comm. 24.1: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 24.1.
Filed Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kimball and Villegas — 2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 25: NOTIFICATION OF FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated November 15, 2024, transmitting
the above pursuant to Section 2-12.4 of the Hawaii County Code, indicating a
total budgetary fund balance of $212,488,113.65.
Motion to Close File: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 25.
Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, we do have the Finance
Director here. Can you give us an overview and then we'll go to Council Member
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questions. We do have new Council Members, maybe a real quick, of the fund
balance.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Managing
Director William V. Brilhante Jr., came forward to address the members
of the Committee. )
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure. Diane Nakagawa, Finance Director. I actually had
the pleasure of talking with our newer Council Members a little bit about
Finance 101, Budget 101; talked a little bit about our fund balance. So today,
what we bring forward is our fund balance for year ending June 30, 2024. As
shown in our communication, our fund balance is $174,911,022.65. Fund balance
designated for future year; in this case future year is our current fiscal year 2025,
and that's $37,577,91. So, with a total budgetary fund balance for year ending
June 30, 2024, $212,488,113.65.
Primarily, as explained in the communication, this fund balance is due to higher
than expected collections in real property tax in TAT (Transient Accommodation
Tax), you know, so a little bit more on our interest revenues this past year. On the
expenditure side, we continue as we've talked about today is vacancies. So there
are less in salaries and wages and a reduction our expenditures as well as some
other OCE (Other Current Expenses) and equipment needs that were not spent in
the budget. So, that is in front of you, our fund balance.
As we've been talking about all day, we are still in the middle of our budget
process for this year and of course this fund balance and all the things that we
think about when we talk about how we spend this money, and our obligations
will be heavily weighted and discussed as we get into what the plan is for our
budget year.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Director. Council Member
Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. So, I keep a little spreadsheet from
when I first sat on the Council to track our fund balance over the years. When I
first came on the Council, and it'll be interesting to know what the fund balance
looked like when you were first on the Council, Council Member Onishi. But in
2019, the fund balance was $33 million; 2020, it was $40 million; 2021,
$52 million; 2022, $70 million; 2023, was like sticker shock for me at
$132 million; and this year we have a whopping $212 million. And so, Director,
one of the questions that I have is, you know, should the state legislature decide
not to continue the County to leverage the general excise tax (GET), that half
percent, and thinking about all the different revenue streams that we have, we can
still maintain operations, fulfill obligations without that additional source.
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MS. NAKAGAWA: Councilwoman Kierkiewicz, great question. So, one of the
many things that we will need to consider when talking about the usage of our
fund balance. So, as we've talked about, there are obligations. So, the last few
years, specifically, we have been ensuring that we have this funding in place to
pay for those obligations that are yet to come. That's one area that I think we will
need to look at. As you talked about, there are possible decreases in revenue
sources and are the different strategies that we are going to put into place to make
sure that those services continue, and then what are the priorities that we'll have
to increase funding for.
So, as we look at a fund balance of this size, I think we have to still consider all of
the other things that we have yet to determine and to be placed in our budget,
right? So, we have debt service considerations as we continue to look at our
infrastructure projects in the hundreds of millions of dollars and how that will
increase and how we will need to continue to make sure that we can pay that debt
service and those projects. So, a lot of discussions that will happen over the next
several months, you know, working closely —thank you, Managing Director, for
being here today in a topic that I know we will have many more conversations
about because there are a lot of issues and priorities and, you know, how we get
there will take the input of all of us to figure that out.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Great. Thank you for that. Is there a target fund balance
that we should have for the County and how is that determined?
MS. NAKAGAWA: So, we spent a lot of time last year at budget and I
appreciate your willingness to understand that. Two things we've talked about in
the County Code is between five and fifteen percent to be kept in that budget
stabilization, rainy day, fund. GFOA (Government Finance Officers Association)
talks about, they went between five to fifteen percent at one point and now we're
looking at two months of expenditures. So, two months of your General Fund
expenditures. So, as we take a look at this budget year, when we come back to
present the budget to you, that will definitely be one of the areas that we will
break down in terms of what is the total General Fund and what does that mean as
far as percentage of our recommendation and where we are at. Just a little early,
but I will definitely make sure that we talk about that and where we stand.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Fantastic. How does our fund balance contribute to
our credit rating; does it have any effect on our credit worthiness?
MS. NAKAGAWA: It does. It does. So, this is a good thing. Having this much
in our fund balance, as we talk to our financial advisors, as we're getting ready to
issue bonds, you know, their statement is, let's lead with this. Let's lead with
your ability to pay.
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MS, KIERKIEWICZ: And then final question. New federal administration, you
know, any economic factors, policy changes that you foresee could impact our
fund balance, or still too tell?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Still early to tell. I think we're all a little nervous
anticipating, but nothing that we know of at the moment but, you know, I think
we're all on the same page as wondering what those changes; how are those
changes going to impact our federal contribution to some of our programs.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, yeah. Let's continue to keep a pulse on that. Thank
you for being here and, Managing Director, both of you, for safeguarding our
fund balance. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Director.
Comments, Managing Director?
MR. BRILHANTE: William Brilhante, Managing Director. You know,
Ms. Nakagawa has hit the nail on the head. It's a problem. But for the
administration that's coming in, it's somewhat a good problem to have. You
know, but unfortunately, with everything good there's a, you know, every day in
order to appreciate the beauty of Hawaii Island, there has to be a little rain. So,
the bad associated with this is, you know, as we move forward then, you know,
we do have expenditures that we're going to have to address.
You know, the tremendous need for infrastructure improvements, you know,
which we talked about earlier, the wastewater treatment facilities in Hilo, in
Nd`dlehu, in Pahala, in Kealakehe, you know, Pepe`ekeo, Pdpa`ikou, you know,
all those are going to have to be addressed because so much of these, you know,
structures and hard capital projects, you know, we've had a lot of deferred
maintenance and now it's to the point where we can't push the can down the road
anymore. We have to address it because we have the AOC (Administrative Order
on Consent) from the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). So, you know,
that's something we have to think about.
We also have to anticipate negotiations with the unions for possible raises. You
know, that's going to be something on the table. We've just initiated those
discussions with all four of the unions. So, we're going to have to come up with
funds. We still haven't addressed the issue with, you know, COVID (Coronavirus
Disease) hazard pay. You know, that's something that's still out there that, again,
with all four of the unions. And so, you know, we're going to have the debt
service associated with the bond loan we just made. And so, these are all factors
that, you know, as we're addressing, you know, the current budget cycle and as
we're sitting down and we're dotting the I's, crossing the T's, you know, this
discussion and this fund balance is just something part of the entire puzzle. It's
just one of the pieces of the puzzle that we're going to have fit. And fortunately,
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it gives us a little maneuverability but it's not going to be the silver bullet that
fixes all of our problems.
So, going forward the target is five to fifteen percent, you know, for fund balance
in order to be compliant. So, that's something that we're definitely going to look
at going forward. I don't think, you know, our future fund balances are going to
be this high. You know, maybe next year we don't anticipate that. There will be
some tightening of the estimations. And, you know, again, what's out of our
control is what we've seen a lot is the increase in real property tax values. And I
think, you know, that's a supply and demand issue. It's somewhat out of our
hands, you know, a little bit. And we definitely want to address the problem but,
you know, that's what's creating so much of this fund balance at this time, are
those increases.
And then the final thing we talked about this morning was a lot of this money is a
as result of vacant positions. You know, and that's something we definitely want
to address as we heard this morning, almost across the board, every department
director that came in said that they're really short of positions, and if you're short
of position, that's where you see these realized savings is you're not having to pay
the salaries for them. So, with the anticipation of filling those positions, again,
it's going to, you know, be a reduction in the next year's fund balance. Thank
you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yeah. Just a quick question. So, if I understood correctly,
then the hazard pay, has that been resolved or is that still?
MR. BRILHANTE: I'm not speaking out of turn, hopefully. But what we're
understanding of is, there has been an arbitration award for only the HGEA
(Hawai`i Government Employees Association) bargaining unit. SHOPO (State of
Hawaii Organization of Police Officers), Fire, and UPW (United Public
Workers) are still unresolved.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. Okay. Because that's what we had talked about prior is
that's what some of that big fund reflected. So, thanks for helping to clarify and
confirm that. And that's all I had.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no further discussion,
thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Motion is on the
floor to close file on Communication 25. All in favor?
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Vote on Comm. 25:
Filed
The motion to close file on Comm. 25 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Communication 26, please.
January 7, 2025
Comm. 26: 2024 ANNUAL REPORT: REAL PROPERTY TAX BOARD OF REVIEW
From Real Property Tax Board of Review Chairman Michael Okumoto, dated
October 8, 2024, transmitting the above report pursuant to Section 19-97(e) of the
Hawaii County Code.
Motion to Close File: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 26.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We do have Real Property in the
Chambers. Let's go to the Council. Do you have any questions off of that?
Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I mean, our Administrator and Deputy Administrator are
here. Thank you for all of the work that you are doing, you've done to support
our Tax Board of Review. We do have their list of recommendations. A lot of it
is, please continue to support this office. But I wanted to spend a little bit of time
talking about where they felt we can improve when it comes to a community
engagement and communication. Did they have anything specific? Their
suggestions were very general, like go talk to the chamber, but not everybody's a
member of the chamber. And so, I just wonder how we can have a better
connection with our community so they're aware of bills that are coming down
the pipe, proposed programs that could be impacting them, and ideas that they had
to just strengthen communication all around.
(Note: At this time, Real Property Tax Administrator Lisa Miura and
Assistant Administrator Keita Jo came forward to address the members of
the Committee.)
MS. MIURA: Lisa Miura, Real Property Tax Administrator, here with Keita Jo,
Assistant Real Property Tax Administrator. That is a good question because as
we went through a major Code change in 2023, there was a lot of public outreach
by our office this year as that Code was implemented. And so, as we were talking
to a lot of the farmers and ranchers, I was asking them, how do you get your
information? It's not from necessarily always the newspaper. It's not social
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media; they're not reading our assessment notice inserts. Is it our website? Well,
no, not really; it's not that, but it's a little bit of everything and maybe making our
assessment notice inserts simpler and less government like so it didn't have so
much things on it that it just focused on how to lower taxes, getting the point
across. And we can't do a mailing every time there's a proposal by Council
because we would spend a lot of money on mailing and by the time we do the
RFP or the quotes and get it out, it might've already died or it might've
completely changed. So, it just takes a long time.
It's been very difficult for our office, but I will tell you from our side and talking
to staff, we've decided to modify our website. And we're going through that
change now. So, right now you go to it; it's a little archaic. It's about 18 years
old. And so, we need to make it much more simpler where you're just seeing
buttons and not a ton of words. And even though we like vanilla at government,
we need to make it a lot more user-friendly and mobile -friendly. It's not a
mobile -friendly application. So, I wish I could say there's one easy button, but
it's going to be a combination of several things at low to minimal cost to the
budget.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Great. And I know we talked about mailings as being
maybe sometimes effective but very expensive. Maybe piloting some text
notifications and survey monkeys to get a sense of folks. Everybody has a phone
we can, you know, I believe that information is available where we can send those
notifications out to folks. So, that might be something to explore.
I was also curious about the one legislative matter that they put forward about the
need for equitable enforcement of tax regulations. I know that over the last
couple of years there's been more of a consorted effort from your office to make
sure that uses are aligned; maybe speak to how that's unfolding and additional
support that you'd like to see this upcoming budget cycle.
MS. MIURA: So, Keita and I are not present when they create this report. And
it's the boards report to the Mayor and County Council. When it came to this
legislative matter, it was our understanding that it was more around compliance
and some of the appellants came to the appeal hearings feeling like, you know,
they got caught doing the short-term rental and lost their homeowner tax class,
where we should go after everybody at the whole island at the same time, and
that's where it would be nice. I mean, if we didn't have to go after anybody and
everything was just honest and clean, or everybody understood. But in reality, we
have one compliance officer, and I would say a lot of taxpayers feel like that's
one too many and the ones that get caught feel like that's not enough because they
want everybody else to get caught as well. And so, I don't know how to properly
address that. It was in the supplemental before; it was the request last year. But
there have been other items that are of higher priority, not just for our office but
Finance as a whole.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it. Thank you for your insights into this. Deputy
Administrator, anything you want to add?
MR. JO: No. Just other than thanking the board for their time. I mean, these are
members from the community that come from a wide range of backgrounds. I
just want to thank them for their time. We had Chairperson (Michael) Okumoto,
Member (Dale) Tokuuke, Member (Mark) Davis, and Member (Jason) Eisert. It
is an important part of our real property tax program to have this avenue for
individuals who feel agreed with our assessments. So, to see this in action is
really important.
One thing I do want to put out there is we are looking for more members. We
have two vacancies, and we are right at quorum with three members. So, it's an
important, you know, position in our board that we need to look at filling. So,
we're going to be working with the Mayor's Office to get the word out.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I know the EA (Executive Assistant) in charge, Micah
Alameda, is working very, very hard to get folks to apply. And I did appreciate
the board members talking about knowing upfront the time commitment and
travel that is involved to fully step into the role. So, Micah, if you're watching,
make sure that folks know in advance before they say yes. Thank you, both, for
supporting this board and thank you to members of the public for their service.
yield. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Real Property. I appreciate
you. Anything else? Good, good. Council Members? Council Member
Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Just one quick question. The Chairperson's
reflection said that they'd characterize the year as the numbers of appeals being
down this year. Do you have anything to attribute that or thoughts on why that is?
MR. JO: So, this is the first year that the appeal fee became nonrefundable. So,
there's a $50 appeal fee that's paid by any individual who feels agreed to go
through the process. And our staff work really, really hard to educate, have
discussions ahead of time, ahead of individuals paying that $50 to help them
understand our process and the values for their specific properties. So, that's
why, to a large extent, the number of appeals were low is because of those two
things at play.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Good. Alright, thank you so much. Appreciate that.
I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no further discussion,
motion is on the floor to close file on Communication 26. Thank you for being
here today. All in favor?
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Vote on Comm. 26:
Filed
Comm. 27:
Motion to Close File:
January 7, 2025
The motion to close file on Comm. 26 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Communication 27, please.
REPORT OF DONATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE DANIEL R. SAYRE
MEMORIAL FOUNDATION AS OF NOVEMBER 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated November 29, 2024, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Resolution 468-20.
Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 27.
Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We do have the Fire Department here.
Anything to offer? This is the report of donations from the Daniel Sayre
Foundation.
(Note: At this time, Assistant Fire Chief Darwin Okinaka came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. OKINAKA: Good afternoon, everybody. Happy new year. My name is
Darwin Okinaka, Assistant Fire Chief with the Hawaii Fire Department. I guess
I'll give a little brief overview of the donations that we're reporting today. One of
them is a wild land tanker for the Waiki`i Ranch Volunteer Fire Company. This
apparatus was actually received in 2023, and I guess we just overlooked the
submittal of the donation. So, just catching up on that one. It's one of those
off -road tankers; so, you know, lifted, high tanker that can assist with going
off -road and fighting many of our wild land fires in West Hawaii and has done so
much great work already.
The second donation is a brand new fire engine; a pumper for the South Kohala
Fire Station, which has been in the works for almost as long as we've had this
other one. It's been about three years at least since we've started this project.
And as you may know, with COVID and the delays with getting, you know,
equipment and being able to build these apparatus, and not only that but the
demand for fire apparatus nowadays, it takes upwards of three to four years to
build a fire apparatus. But we finally received the apparatus and it's just about
ready to be placed in service. It's a brand new pumper, state of the art pumper,
for the South Kohala Fire Station that was donated with a bunch of equipment
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also by the Sayre Foundation. So, very grateful for, again, the countless millions
of dollars of donations that both Frank and Laura Sayre and the organizations as
well as the donors from our community and abroad that commit to supporting the
Hawaii Fire Department and our needs. Open for any questions.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much, Assistant Fire Chief
Okinaka. Well said. Thank you to the Sayre's. Council Members? Okay, thank
you. Motion is on the floor to close file on Communication 27. All in favor?
Vote on Comm. 27: The motion to close file on Comm. 27 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 30-25, please.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(Note: Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
Res. 30-25: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD OF $23,750
FROM THE URBAN SUSTAINABILITY DIRECTOR'S NETWORK TO THE
OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY, CLIMATE, EQUITY AND RESILIENCE
Funds would be used to conduct a pilot project to train county staff and partner
community -based organizations in participatory storytelling in relationship to
place and what sustainability and climate action means to our community.
Reference: Comm.28
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 30-25. Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here, Administrator
Morrison. Go ahead.
(Note: At this time, Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity, and
Resilience Administrator Bethany Morrison came forward to address the
members of the Committee.)
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MS. MORRISON: Good afternoon and thank you guys. I know you've had a
long day. I appreciate you holding out for this. Bethany Morrison, Interim
Administrator for the Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity, and Resilience
(OSCER). Just a couple things I'd like to share about this. It's a pretty small
opportunity, but it has a really big impact. When we started off with our Climate
Action Plan, as most of you know, it was very focused on getting our County
processes in order, making sure that we are holding ourselves accountable before
we go engaging with the community. So this year is really about engaging with
community, and part of that is making sure that we're building trust and
relationships before we really begin to engage with folks.
Throughout my career, I've seen a lot of ways that we've engaged. Some
positive, some negative. And this project really allows us the opportunity to
provide capacity within our community -based organizations, to work with our
communities to do their own storytelling rather than us going to them and saying,
"Hey, here's this thing; what do you think?" and getting some reactions and
feedback. It's really going to them and talking about what does sustainability and
climate change look like in your community and giving them the tools and the
resources to be able to share that in any way that they're comfortable sharing.
We've seen this demonstrated across the world, frankly, in really beginning to
engage with our indigenous communities and providing them the tools to use their
own voice to share their stories. So, as we start to think about, you know,
engaging our community partnerships and that side as part of our Climate Action
Plan, we really wanted to do it correctly and really find a way that allows folks to
share with us where they're comfortable sharing, and this project allows for us to
do that. So, again, it's a very small project but it will have a big impact.
The project itself is really a train the trainer project, so we will be engaging with
our community based organizations and the office itself to train staff and
organizations in how to work with community to help them tell their own stories
and give them the tools to do that.
Objectives of this project; deepen partnerships with historically marginalized and
underserved community members, further the implementation of our ICAP
(Integrated Climate Action Plan) by engaging communities for place based
feedback and qualitative data to guide implementation, priorities, and decision -
making, empower community members to take control of their narrative around
what sustainability and climate action mean to them, and finally to pilot pathways
for equitable place space community engagement to serve as an example on
foundation for future engagement for Hawaii County's Office of Sustainability,
Climate, Equity, and Resilience. That's what I have to share and I'm open to any
questions.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much. Council Member
Kagiwada.
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MS, KAGIWADA: Thank you. Thank you, Administrator. Just wondering how
you'll be selecting the community organizations to participate for this?
MS. MORRISON: We decided we're going to do an RFP for a couple of reasons.
One is we want to build capacity. And so, rather than selecting one or two that
we're already partnering with, we wanted to broaden it and allow folks that
haven't participated to have that opportunity to build their capacity.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. And what, do you have a sense of what people are
going to be asked to be sharing in their RFP, like what do they need to bring to
the table?
MS. MORRISON: Yeah. So, they have to be community -based, they have to
have built some kind of trust and relationship already in community so that when
they begin to engage and help roll this out, they have that trust and those
relationships. This is meant to be a very low -tech opportunity for storytelling and
so there is not a lot of technology need. But they will need to have some capacity
in being able to roll out, you know, the practices. And then finally, part of this
project is to develop platform. So, where does all this land, after we've done
some of this really good intake of storytelling, where does that land. So, they will
have to have capacity to engage with that platform as well.
MS. KAGIWADA: Alright. Sounds really interesting. Thank you so much for
bringing it forward. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Administrator, for the
details. Does this mean we get to work with Kristin Baja?
MS. MORRISON: She is no longer with USDN (Urban Sustainability Directors
Network).
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: She's not? Okay.
MS. MORRISON: That doesn't mean we won't get to work with her, but she has
left that organization.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. I remember she was the keynote for a planning
conference I went to on Maui; totally blown away. I love what the organization
does. They work globally. And I remember being really inspired by the
resilience hub framework, which is what I use to kind of stand things up here. So,
I just want to understand. The deliverable for this grant is by June 2025, the
contractor would have completed a train the trainer program. And then from there
is there additional funding to go out into the community to collect stories and
what is the tangible item that we can expect from this place, space, storytelling
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narrative? Is it written narrative; is it audio; is it video? Just trying to understand
how the stories are going to be captured.
MS. MORRISON: Yeah. And part of that is that we don't know yet, and we're
going to be working with a provider that's going to give us options. So, some
community members, maybe they want to make their own video reels; some
community members, maybe they want to submit something written. So, there is
a breath of media that we'll be engaging folks on. The office itself will be
supporting that work, working with our community -based partners after this
training is completed.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MS. MORRISON: And that would be the rest of 2025.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it. So, it could also be like poetry or mixed media?
MS. MORRISON: Exactly.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MS. MORRISON: Which is, again, trying to meet people where they are and
where they're comfortable sharing. So, it could be a variety of media that comes
in.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Great. So, capturing the stories, understanding the
impact of climate change, and then using that mana`o to inform County actions
and ways we can better support our community.
MS. MORRISON: Exactly. Exactly. Yes.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Great. I understand and am in full support. Thank
you for making this happen. I yield.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Sure. Thank you for being here today, Bethany; and for your
creativity in finding funding like this in order to really connect the people with the
places for the purpose so we could bring their desires most authentically to light.
I just have kind of a quick question too. You know, in my visioning for OSCER
and its inception, I had imagined and nand you, you can't do everything, I totally
get it, and you're already been saddled with. But there being work directly with
the different departments and divisions in order to, I don't know, for instance,
provide other options? You know, we no longer spray glyphosate, now they
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spray glyphosonate. But to be able to really get in with each of the divisions to
help with transition away from practices that are the antithesis of what we want to
be doing to our soils and our waters and dadadadada, and all the reasons in
providing that support within the departments to help them to transition to more
sustainable regenerative practices. Are there —and I may be totally off topic here,
but it just had me thinking of like, I love this, but I want to make sure that's
happening too.
MS. MORRISON: Absolutely. So, this first year has been setting up those
processes and one of the positions that's going to be coming on board is a special
projects coordinator to do that in word coordination with those departments
towards those efforts. In the budget, you guys will also see, hopefully, a
supplemental ask for another special projects coordinator to focus on the
community side, so that we are making sure that we are in one space listening and
providing that feedback back to the departments in that role that OSCER is
supposed to be playing.
MS. VILLEGAS: Perfect. I think that's a perfect synchronicity. You know, for
instance, I get lots fun communication from constituents griping about weeds on
the side of the road; and we stopped spraying poison and now we've got these
weeds. And I'm thinking, yeah, this week because it rained, but next week those
weeks will be dead whether or not you poison them or don't poison them and then
they'll still just be dead on the side of the road. But trying to be a cross connector
with community to share and educate so they understand, you know, what's going
on in the transitions and continue to support the departments when they make
hard decisions like that in order to step away from a practice that in the long run is
more detrimental. Yeah. Thank you, Bethany. I appreciate it.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you.
MS. VILLEGAS: Administrator. I want to call you Bethany Hamilton for some
reason right now. Morrison, sorry. Thank you so much. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thanks. I just wanted to say real quickly, I do think this is a
brilliant project. And though small could have big impacts like you were saying,
helping folks to generate their own story because we all live in our narratives.
That's where we live. So, instead of trying to sort of impose a narrative on
people, helping to generate those narratives so that it's in line with their own
place and experiences and not some kind of alien concept. So, I think this is
brilliant and thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Morrison. I
appreciate it. Motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 30-25 to Council with
a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
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Vote on Res. 30-25:
(Approved)
Res. 31-25
Motion to Approve:
January 7, 2025
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 30-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item please.
AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE STATE OF HAWAI`I DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, PURSUANT
TO HAWAI`I REVISED STATUTES SECTION 46-7
Allows for the receipt of $135,000 to assist coffee farmers by offsetting the cost
of the insecticide used to control the Coffee Berry Borer and/or approved
fungicides to control Coffee Leaf Rust.
Reference: Comm.29
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 31-25. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We do have Mr. Sako here from Research
and Development. You want to add anything? You don't have to. I'm just
giving you that option. Okay. Council Members? Mr. Onishi, go ahead.
MR. ONISHI: Thank you. Mr. Sako, can you please come up? If you could
introduce yourself.
(Note: At this time, Economic Development Specialist Glenn Sako came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. SAKO: Hi. Good afternoon. I'm Glenn Sako, Economic Development
Specialist with the Department of Research and Development (R&D).
MR. ONISHI: Thank you. You know, I look at this and I'm really happy that, I
guess, did you apply for this grant?
MR. SAKO: No. This is something that has been the Department of Agriculture
since 2015 has been providing funds intermittently up to and yeah, has
continuously provided funds up to this point.
MR. ONISHI: And then, how do you disburse this funds?
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MR. SAKO: So, what it is, is there's a program manager that is hired by the state
to work with the producers. Originally, they had to mark all of the acreage that is
in coffee; the producers had to submit an application and what other legal forms
that were needed. And then the program manager receives the receipts for the
pesticides that are qualified for this program, reviews them, makes sure that
they're the proper ones and that the amount that they are requesting does not
exceed $600 per acre per year, with a cap I believe was either $6,000 or $9,000
per producer. Then the manager sends the receipts to our accountant with R&D
who then reviews and processes the payments for this and sends it back to the
producers.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. Okay. So, could we somehow do the same thing with the
fire ants treatments if there were funding?
MR. SAKO: Well, there's always a way that we can look into a program to see
how we can support the purchase of pesticides to help control the fire ants on this
island.
MR. ONISHI: Because I don't know if you remember but back then when I was
on the Council, you know, we created the fire ant crew and then we also went
back to the Hawaii Invasive Species Council to get funding, right, to help the
public.
MR. SAKO: Right.
MR. ONISHI: Right. But that money was, I guess, allocated to Big Island
Invasive Species to distribute, correct?
MR. SAKO: Correct.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah. So, this program is totally different, like not how we got
the money for the fire ants.
MR. SAKO: Yeah. Because for the fire ant program we had to submit a proposal
to Hawaii Invasive Species Council to receive funding for it.
MR. ONISHI: Right. And I'm the one who got lobbied for that and got the
money for that.
MR. SAKO: But in this case, I guess, Department of Agriculture had responded
to requests from the coffee producers.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. Okay. So, is it possible where the County could request or
ask the Department of Agriculture to help provide funding for the fire ants?
MR. SAKO: You can always ask.
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Vote on Res. 31-25:
(Approved)
Res. 32-25:
January 7, 2025
MR.ONISHI: Yeah.
MR. SAKO: Yeah. And there's a big push on controlling invasive species in the
past two sessions.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. Okay. So I'll be contacting your office and then we can
see what we can do and see if we can get some funding. Thank you.
MR. SAKO: You're welcome.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sako. Okay,
Mr. Brown. Motion is on the floor. All in favor?
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 31-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, HAWAI`I CRIMINAL
JUSTICE DATA CENTER, PURSUANT TO HAWAI`I REVISED STATUTES
SECTION 46-7, FOR A GRANT TO THE HAWAI`I COUNTY POLICE
DEPARTMENT
Allows for the receipt of $318,240 of federally -derived funds to enhance the
department's Records Section to improve accuracy, quality, timeliness, immediate
accessibility, and integration of national systems of criminal history and related
records.
Reference: Comm.30
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
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Vote on Res. 32-25:
(Approved)
Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 32-25. Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 45-25, please.
January 7, 2025
Res. 45-25: APPROVES THE AWARD OF FUNDS TO ROOTS ADVOCATES FOR
YOUTH BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
Provides $50,000 of grant funds for the Roots Skate Park Phase three project at
Kamehameha Park in North Kohala.
Reference: Comm.66
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 45-25. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Hustace, your district.
MR. HUSTACE: This was by request, I believe, from Parks and Recreation.
And we have representative from Parks and Recreation, if you want to just
provide a little update on the current application?
(Note: At this time, Parks and Recreation Business Manager Charmaine
Felipe came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. FELIPE: Charmaine Felipe, Parks and Recreation Business Manager. Parks
and Recreation is requesting support from Council to provide a $50,000 grant to
Roots Advocates for Youth and their Roots Skate Park Phase 3 project at the
Kamehameha Park in North Kohala. The construction value of this project is
estimated at $239,000. $50,000 would help cover some of the labor that they will
incur for this project. The Phase 3 project will consist of just under 3,000 square
feet of concrete to expand the skate park with another substantial addition, which
will be utilized by the Kohala Community and the skate enthusiasts from around
the island. And so, this phase is a, what we consider a bowl, which will be in the
center of the existing project.
MR. HUSTACE: Thank you. I know there were some contingency funds given
last year for the same purpose from Council Members here and just curious how
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they're doing. And I'll reach out to them on what they've connecting with route
through you; if they're progressing on the funds that they're needing, you know,
going forward for this phase in its entirety.
MS. FELIPE: Correct. Council Member Cindy Evans awarded them $20,000,
which they're utilizing through our department by ordering materials for this
project.
MR. HUSTACE: Thank you. I yield. Thank you, Chair.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Charmaine. It's pretty
awesome. $50,000 for the skate park in Kohala. Any other funding applied
already; how much was applied from Cindy? $70,000. And then Phase 3
completes, or still got more to go?
MS. FELIPE: I'm not sure on that. I did see the park myself and I think it's a
great addition to the whole complex. Completing the bowl looks like it might be
a complete project, but it all depends on the skaters.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Awesome. Awesome. I love it. Kids need
it. That's awesome. Thank you for being here. Council Members, anything
further? Hearing and seeing none, motion is on the floor to forward
Resolution 45-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 45-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 45-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kimball — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 48-25, please.
Res. 48-25: AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE STATE OF HAWAI`I DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
HIGHWAY SAFETY OFFICE, PURSUANT TO HAWAI`I REVISED
STATUTES SECTION 46-7, FOR A GRANT TO THE HAWAI`I POLICE
DEPARTMENT
Allows for the receipt of $41,792 of federally -derived funds to conduct
community engagement and enforcement activities related to pedestrian safety.
Reference: Comm.69
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
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Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 48-25. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mr. Keltner.
(Note: At this time, Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Members. I appreciate your
time and one thing I have to say before I say this is I sat here today and realized
how lucky we are to have you guys and how you're actually contemplating all
these things. Makes me have a lot of respect, and I'm not just saying that. Truly,
I've noticed that. I know it's been a long day. So, thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, sir.
MR. KELTNER: So, this is actually a new grant that we put it. I spoke with the
DOT (Department of Transportation) about this, and it's an opportunity for us to
have pedestrian and bicycle safety that we haven't had in a way previously, since
I've been here in the ten years doing it. So, the idea is to have additional officers
on bicycles and also on foot and in vehicles in areas where we have high volumes
of pedestrian bicycle traffic. And it's not strictly enforcement, there will be
enforcement, but there's also an educational piece to it in trying to engage. And
that's why it's worded that way so that there's actually public engagement. So, I
think it's something that's a step forward in how we're going to address some of
the things we do. But I think and I hope that this is another positive step. We
have too many people that get killed and hit by cars and this was an avenue I
thought maybe could help us. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, sir. Council Members?
Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Thank you. Just quick. Do you have like an example? I'm
trying to picture what that would be like. So, you see somebody jaywalking and
you stop them and talk to them; is that what you're talking about?
MR. KELTNER: That could be one thing. And I have a perfect example that
come up just today. Waikoloa School; there's some teachers that had concerns
because kids are coming to school on electric bikes. And young kids are coming
on these bikes that travel at high speeds. And I actually spoke with the captain
from South Kohala, Captain (Roylen) Valera, and he brought it up and said, you
know, is this something we could use these funds to go there and do that and give
materials to the kids, to the teachers, and do that? So, we'll have an opportunity
for officers to go and do that as an additional shift, you know, pre and post shift
because we're already very busy and strapped. But this will give that opportunity
for them to do additional things. So, yeah, that's one example that it could be.
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One that I've found in down on our beaches, you know, where we have people
walking in and out of traffic in high volumes. We, unfortunately, get people
being hit by cars, and it's another avenue of being present in areas where it's not
as easy in a car that you could do on foot or on a bike, and it's just a great benefit.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. I'll look forward to
seeing how this plays out.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Keltner, for your
leadership and being proactive in securing us additional funding. One thing I
wanted to suggest was maybe connecting with the Hawaii Public Health Institute.
They do a lot of work in, you know, bicyclist, pedestrian safety. So, perhaps
connecting with them on a couple of activations and community outreach could
help to stretch these dollars. So, just a suggestion. Thank you.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah, thank you. You're getting money from the Department of
Transportation. You know, I remember back then when I was on the Council, and
I always got to refer back to when I was on the Council, but we had a program
before and they used to go to the schools and have these bikes and helmets and
teaching the younger children, I think it was in elementary school, and they used
to go around and inform them and help them learn about the safety and
everything. The other thing was that they used to get money for the seatbelts, the
click it and ticket, and we used to do like this like sports activities to educate the
younger kids. Do you folks still get that funding?
MR. KELTNER: Yes. I believe that's we'll address that in some of the next
upcoming bills that we're going to present. We do things and with Chief Ben
(Moszkowicz) is very supportive of us taking these steps in that way. It's great.
We're poised to do some things that we did, I know we did in the past, that we'll
do again.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah. It was successful. Thank you for all your hard work.
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. One question. Someone asked
me if we could buy mopeds or electric scooters for the officers to get around, kind
of like we do for bikes, but it provides that community engagement piece because
they're physically in the community and in areas that harder accessed with a
vehicle. Is that something that could apply under this grant?
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MR. KELTNER: Actually initially, that's where the discussion came from. And
what I found is we were able to put that, and it'll be listed in our STEP (Sustained
Traffic Enforcement Program) grant. We actually have 12 electric bikes listed in
the STEP grant that DOT has approved. We actually have six of them already
being tested and we'll get an additional 12 in this grant that will do that. And it's
for that specifically. So, we'll deploy those, like the first set; we're lucky. We
had two officers go through and are now instructors for exactly this. So, we have
one on each side of the island and they've already set one class that they've
trained old officers to do, and we'll have another set. And we'll deploy those
12 bikes throughout the island in different locations.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That's cool. I like it. It provides a real in
the community approach for officers and more so than you can in a vehicle, and
you can cover more ground than you would on foot. So, tremendous capability to
be in places where things might be happening or just to be present in the
community and build that community engagement piece. I love it.
MR. KELTNER: Exactly. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thanks for your work on that.
Okay. Council Members, we have to motion on the floor to forward
Resolution 48-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation on the floor. All
in favor?
Vote on Res. 48-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 48-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 3, please.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
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Bill 3: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30. 2025
Appropriates revenues in the Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity and
Resilience Private Contributions account ($23,750); and appropriates the same
to the Emergent Learning Funds account. Funds would be used to conduct a pilot
project to train county staff and partner community -based organizations in
participatory storytelling in relationship to place and what sustainability and
climate action means to our community.
Reference: Comm.28
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Bill 3: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 3 on
(Approved) first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 4, please.
Bill 4: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30. 2025
Appropriates revenues in the State Grants — Coffee Berry Borer Pesticide Subsidy
Program account ($135,000); and appropriates the same to the Coffee Berry Borer
Pesticide Subsidy Program account. Funds would be used to assist coffee farmers
by offsetting the cost of the insecticide used to control the Coffee Berry Borer
and/or approved fungicides to control Coffee Leaf Rust.
Reference: Comm.29
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
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Vote on Bill 4: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 4 on
(Approved) first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
Bill 5: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30 2025
Appropriates revenues in the Federal Grants — National Criminal History
Improvement Program account ($318,240); and appropriates the same to the
National Criminal History Improvement Program account. Funds would be used
to enhance the department's Records Section to improve accuracy, quality,
timeliness, immediate accessibility, and integration of national systems of criminal
history and related records.
Reference: Comm.30
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Bill 5: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 5 on
(Approved) first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Next item, please.
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Bill 6: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30. 2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants — Hawai`i County Police Department
Data Grant account ($27,780); and appropriates the same to the Hawaii County
Police Department Data Grant account, for a total appropriation of $107,780.
Funds would be used to establish a statewide traffic data system and ensure
compliance with national standards.
Reference: Comm.31
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 6 on
first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mr. Keltner, you want to just give us a
brief overview. You've got about five or six lined up in front of us.
(Note: At this time, Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KELTNER: I do. Thank you, Chair. This will be quick. One of the
primary cost in here is an update to the MDTs (Mobile Data Terminal) that the
traffic enforcement unit officers use. They've come to end of life and so we need
to get some new equipment so that they have the same security that they need to
have for accessing our data and then some other updated infer cables and stuff
like that for downloading major crash data from cars that are destroyed. So, that's
all I have. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Members? Hearing
and seeing none, motion is on the floor. All in favor?
Vote on Bill 6: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 6 was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
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Bill 7: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO, 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30.2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants — Hawai`i County Police Department
Roadblock Program account ($37,839.15); and appropriates the same to the
Hawaii County Police Department Roadblock Program account, for a total
appropriation of $532,839.15. Funds would be used to reduce the number of
drivers operating a vehicle while impaired.
Reference: Comm.32
Intr. by: Council Member K5neali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Bill 7: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 7 on
(Approved) first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 8, please.
Bill 8: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30. 2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants — Occupant Protection Program account
($1,724.50); and appropriates the same to the Occupant Protection
Program account, for a total appropriation of $161,724.50. Funds would be used
for occupant protection projects.
Reference: Comm.33
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 8 on
first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mr. Keltner.
(Note: At this time, Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you, Chair. I just have to say, this is one that I'm proud
of, an avenue that we've changed. You may have seen it, and we did publicize a
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road closure that we did and a roadblock that we did it in front Mt. View School.
We paired it with a child safety seat clinic on the side. So, we had vehicles that
came through, about 300 of them. We actually were able to help families with
installing car seats properly, but we gave away I think it was 11 car seats, I
believe, to families in need in that community. And that's kind of the approach
that we're going to take with some of these like that. And I do have to say, one of
the roadblocks we did previously, within six minutes, we had a DUI (Driving
Under the Influence) at 9:00 in the morning.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: There is a hazard to drinking at night and
then thinking you're all good the next day.
MR. KELTNER: Correct.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for that. That was in Mt. View?
MR. KELTNER: Not the DUI, but the roadblock with the child safety seat clinic
was on a Saturday morning, and it was very successful.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: 11 car seats you guys gave away?
MR. KELTNER: Yeah. I believe it was 11. Yeah.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good job. Thank you. Council Members?
Okay, hearing and seeing none, motion is on the floor. All in favor?
Vote on Bill 8: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 8 was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
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Bill 9: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30.2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants — Hawai`i County Police Department
2023 Selective Traffic Enforcement Programs Grant account ($48,764); and
appropriates the same to the Hawaii County Police Department 2023 Selective
Traffic Enforcement Programs Grant account, for a total appropriation of $628,764.
Funds would be used for training, education, enforcement, and community
collaboration to reduce traffic fatalities and injuries.
Reference: Comm.34
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 9 on
first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion from the Council?
Mr. Keltner.
(Note: At this time, Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you, Chair. This is where the 12 electric bikes will be
put in there. And another thing that we have, we've increased the number of
stalker radars and we're going to file for speeding because it's obviously a factor
in major crashes. We're going to be able to purchase 20 more of those to
distribute, and we already have many of those out there. A personal objective of
mine is to make sure that every officer on duty has one of those in their vehicle
with them every time they work. So, thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Awesome. Thank you. Okay. Motion is
on the floor. All in favor?
Vote on Bill 9: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 9 was carried by
(Approved) the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 13, please.
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Bill 13: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30 2025
Appropriates revenues in the Federal Grants — Hawai`i County Police Department
Pedestrian and Bicycle Safety Grant account ($41,792); and appropriates the same
to the Hawaii County Police Department Pedestrian and Bicycle Safety Grant
account. Funds would be used to conduct community engagement and
enforcement activities related to pedestrian safety.
Reference: Comm.69
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 13
on first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion on the measure? Council
Member Kierkiewicz, go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Just speaking globally. Thank you,
Mr. Keltner. I always love seeing you because it means more grant money and
programs that really do make an impact and encourage safety in our community.
So, thank you very much for your diligence and your dedication. I yield.
(Note: At this time, Traffic Safety Coordinator Torey Keltner came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KELTNER: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Mr. Keltner, go ahead.
MR. KELTNER: Chair, I appreciate this. Just quickly on this. You know, this is
the first year that we're going to be doing this again. And if there are events in
your communities that you have a need or see, and have maybe a
recommendation, if you would get in touch with me or I'll reach out, we'll see if
we can help get officers in those areas and see how it works because I really do
believe it's our community working together to make this work, right. Thank
you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much. Appreciate your
patience today. You stayed all the way through. We're way past our deadline for
all of our committees and you're still here and you're still going. So, well done.
With that, motion is on the floor to forward Bill 13 to Council with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor?
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Vote on Bill 13: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 13 was carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Last one.
Bill 14: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30.2025
Increases revenues in the Federal Grants — Housing Trust Fund Grant account
($137,592); and appropriates the same to the Housing Trust Fund Projects account
($130,351) and Housing Trust Fund Administration account ($7,241), for a total
appropriation of $2,987,592. Funds would be used to produce affordable housing
through the acquisition, new construction, reconstruction, and/or rehabilitation of
non -luxury housing with suitable amenities.
Reference: Comm.70
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Kierkiewicz moved to recommend passage of Bill 14
on first reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Administrator Costa, you stayed till the
end. Thank you very much. You might as well give us a little bit of something
on this one.
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. COSTA: We just received a little more money than we expected, federal
funds. That's it.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very
much. Council Members? Council Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Yeah. So, it is kind of a small amount of money for these
kind of things. What are you going to be using it for?
MS. COSTA: I do have Royce on Zoom. He could probably answer. But
Housing Trust Fund, I don't know the awards of this. This is similar to our home
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fund. We use this for affordable housing development, proposals and
applications.
MS. KAGIWADA: So, just a small amount more will be added to something?
MS. COSTA: Yes.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Thanks. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. I think we're good. Thank
you, Royce. Appreciate you. Okay. Council Members, seeing no further
discussion, we have the motion —thank you, Administrator Costa, for sticking it
out with us. Seeing no further discussion, we have Bill 14 on the table. Motion is
to forward Bill 14 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Bill 14: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 14 was carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Inaba and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That does bring us to the end of our
agenda.
ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
MENT: adjourned the meeting at 5:14 p.m. Thank you very much.
Approved:
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