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From: Emma-Lei Gerrish
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Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 2:36 PM L..0 CD
To: Council Testimony
Subject: Public testimony in support of resolution 61- 25
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Aloha,
I would like to submit public testimony in support of Resolution 61-25:A RESOLUTION
URGING THE STATE OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF
AGRICULTURE AND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO
CONSULT WITH LOCAL POULTRY FARMERS TO DEVELOP AN AVIAN FLU
RESPONSE PLAN AND TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES TO
DEPOPULATION AS A RESPONSE STRATEGY.
Thank you Heather Kimball for introducing this resolution, and thank you to all county
council members who voted for it at the first hearing.
The USA has been using mass culling (killing) as the main response to bird flu (High
pathogenic Avian Influenza). I do not agree with this method and I am hoping that
alternatives will be considered here in Hawaii. I have lived in Hawaii my whole life and my
family has a small farm in Paauilo. I have a flock of ducks that I raise for eggs. I sell eggs
to the community. My ducks aren't just livestock, I raise them with love and treat them like
pets. As a small farmer and someone who loves my ducks, the government's current
approach to bird flu is extremely discouraging.
On the continental US, the main method of bird flu control is "Stamping Out" also
known as mass culling, or depopulation. What this means is that if one bird tests positive
in a flock, the entire flock will be killed. Even if birds have survived the virus, they will be
killed. Even if birds did not have contact with the sick bird, they will be killed. I have even
heard of newly hatched chicks who had no contact with any other birds on the property
being killed. Other countries such as the Netherlands and France are using poultry
vaccination to prevent bird flu, but unfortunately the USA has chosen to focus on
"stamping out".
I disagree with stamping out for several reasons. It is inhumane, ineffective, and
there are more humane and sustainable alternatives.
Mass culling is inhumane. Poultry are usually killed by cutting off ventilation and
adding heat to their barns which causes death by heat exhaustion. Other times they are
suffocated with firefighting foam or gassed with CO2. Some of these methods can take
hours and none of them are 100% effective - which means some birds will survive the
initial culling attempt and then will be killed by some other method. Then,,t,here is a
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psychological impact on the poultry owners who have their birds killed against their will. I
consider it inhumane and un-American that our government is allowed to come onto our
farms without our permission and kill our poultry.
Poultry can and do survive bird flu. Although the official death toll for domestic chickens
is around 90%, I would argue that we don't know the real death toll since whole flocks are
killed by the government before the birds have a chance to recover from the virus.
Domestic ducks and geese have a much better chance of survival. Some studies have
found between an 0% to 60% death toll for ducks. Wild birds on the mainland also survive
bird flu, and the survivors have some degree of immunity. This is how wild birds adapt to
disease. Unfortunately, if all domestic poultry that survive bird flu are killed by the
government, they will never have a chance to develop immunity and pass on this immunity
to future generations.
Mass culling is ineffective. It has not stopped the disease on the continental US or
elsewhere in the world. It will not keep humans safe from disease either. Bird flu is
already endemic in the wild bird population on the continental US, and it is widespread in
dairy cattle. Culling domestic poultry will not stop the disease when these other sources of
infection exist.
I think that we should explore all alternatives to mass culling. Some of these include
vaccination, quarantining infected flocks, and breeding disease resistant poultry.
The USDA is stockpiling a bird flu vaccine for poultry and I hope it will be available to
farmers soon. France and the Netherlands are already using vaccination to prevent bird
flu. From what I understand, a state can request vaccine use and then the federal
government will make a decision to authorize it or not. I hope that as soon as the
vaccine is available, Hawaii will request to use it. It could help protect small farms, and
our native birds.
Quarantining infected flocks has been used for other variants of bird flu, and it is
also being used in California for non-food producing flocks. Perhaps we could use the
quarantine guidelines used in California to develop a quarantine plan in Hawaii.
Quarantining flocks until they test negative will allow surviving birds to develop immunity,
hopefully paving the way for healthier more resilient flocks.
Another consideration is Hawaii's remote location and the difficulty of importing new
breeding stock. It is illegal to import ducks into Hawaii so the ducks we have here are
already a small gene pool. If entire flocks are culled, they cannot be replaced. Some taro
farmers in Hawaii rely on ducks to eat invasive snails.
Hawaii does not have to follow the current flawed approach - we can create a plan that
keeps people safe, is humane to poultry, and supports small farms. Please support this
resolution.
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Mahalo,
Emma Gerrish
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