HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/03/06 (2022-2024)Committee on Finance
5` Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
March 6, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 2:24 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. James E. Hustace, Acting
Chair.
ROLL CALL -
Present: Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Ms. Heather Kimball, Member
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member (came in later)
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member (videoconference from Kona)
Absent & Excused: Mr. Matt Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 23.5: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JANUARY 1 —15 2025
From Acting Controller Wilson Crider, dated January 30, 2025.
Vote on Comm. 23.5: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.5. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba, Kagiwada,
Kimball, Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, and Onishi — 3.
Excused: None.
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ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Next item, please.
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Comm. 23.6: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JANUARY 16 — 31 2025
From Acting Controller Wilson Crider, dated February 6, 2025.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.6. Seconded
by Ms. Kagiwada.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any discussion, Council Members?
MS. GALIMBA: Could I ask a question?
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Please, Ms. Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: Thanks. Director Nakagawa, I think you would be the one.
don't see police. It's this first one —didn't recognize you guys.
(Note: At this time, Police Accountant Hauoli Aiona came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. AIONA: Good afternoon. Hauoli Aiona, accountant for the Hawaii Police
Department.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Ms. Aiona. I just wanted to ask about the first item
here, the transfer of the money from the Ka`u Police, which seems to happen
every year, but this year seems to be an especially big transfer. And I did see that
we're potentially adding positions to Ka`u. So, I wanted to ask if you could talk
through that.
MS. AIONA: Sure. So this transfer in particular is for the $500,000. Ka`u, I am
sure it was $150,000, and the reason for that is the vacant positions. So when we
run the recruit classes, the recruit classes salary and wages (S&W) come out of
our administration until they finish their FTO or Field Training, then they get
assigned to the different districts. So for the time being, while they're doing their
training, the administration will hold their S&W. So what we do is we take from
the vacant positions within in the budget to fill that and pay the S&W, and that's
why we need to do the transfers. We can't do it beforehand because we don't
know how many recruit classes we'll exactly have and how many recruits will be
in each class.
MS. GALIMBA: So, will those then recruits then be assigned to Ka`u?
MS. AIONA: Yes. So once the finish their FTO, field training, they graduate,
and then we assign them to their permanent districts.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay. Fantastic. Looking forward to that. Thank you.
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ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Ms. Galimba. Thanks, Ms. Aiona. Any
other questions from the Council? Mr. Clerk, Mr. Onishi has returned to the
chambers. Hearing no other discussion, all those in favor?
Vote on Comm. 23.6: The motion to close file on Comm. 23.6 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 23.7: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JANUARY 16 — 31 2025
From Acting Controller Wilson Crider, dated February 12, 2025.
Vote on Comm. 23.7: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.7. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Kagiwada and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 24.4: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: DECEMBER 16 — 31 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated February 13, 2025, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
Vote on Comm. 24.4: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 24.4. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Kagiwada and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
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Comm. 73.1: MONTHLY BUDGET STATUS REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDED
JULY 31.2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated February 14, 2025, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 6-6.3(h) of the Hawaii County Charter.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 73.1. Seconded
by Ms. Kagiwada.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Questions; discussion from the dais? Mr. Inaba,
please. The floor is yours.
MR. INABA: Thank you, Chair. Director Nakagawa, I know we're a little
behind. Can you just give us an update as to when we're going to get closer. I
know your office and department have been working on it. So, just a preview of
what's to come.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Acting
Controller Wilson Crider came forward to address the members of the
Committee. )
MS. NAKAGAWA: Of course. Good afternoon. Diane Nakagawa, Finance
Director. I'd also like to introduce to you our Acting Controller Wilson Crider,
who has stepped into this role as we recruit for our Controller position, which is
also one of our challenges is our resources. We are catching up. We are in the
tail end of our audit, wrapping things up and I think Wilson has a status report on
when you'll get some additional monthly budget status reports that we can get
back on track.
MR. CRIDER: So yeah. August should be close, so those should be available —
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Would you just pull the microphone a little closer,
you can pull the whole thing closer.
MR. CRIDER: Okay. Can you hear me now?
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Yes.
MR. CRIDER: So, yeah. August has closed and those should be to you guys
shortly and then the staff is working on these additional months. It takes about a
week once we actually close a filing period to actually process all the information.
And there's only two staff members that are working on this. So, we hope to have
through November by the time April rolls around and then we're just going to
keep rolling through until we get caught up.
MS. NAKAGAWA: And I will add that, you know, a lot of what we do is
manual around the County. And so we are investing heavily on technology so
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when we don't have the resource, at least the technology is advanced enough to
be able to run reports that such a cumbersome process should be a lot easier as we
get these new things in place. So, you know, one of the things that Wilson
mentioned is that our staff is also working on implementation of a financial
system at the same time. So there is a lot going on but it's all to get us to a much
better place. And so efficiency is around the corner. We're anxious as I know
you are as well to get closer.
MR. INABA: And if you could put a date optimistically, that we'll be getting
these monthly budget status reports, like within the month or at least just be up to
only two months behind, when would that be?
MS. NAKAGAWA: So it's a little more complicated than just the technology.
The reason that the initial July reports are so late; it is late, is because our
accounts team is going through closing the entire year. So that will have a delay.
What I would like for our team to propose something that can be done quicker,
right. So I think what Wilson is talking about is there will continue to be some
delay until the year is closed, but there might be something that the system can
run that's a little quicker. So they're working on that. That's also a request that
we're looking into. But it's always that first part. So normally the audit, if we're
on time, is done in December. And that's officially when we can close the books
on the previous year. So that's why you get the July normally, even on time, is in
January. But I understand the need for it faster, so we can see if there's
something else the system can do.
MR. fNABA: Okay. Yeah. So ultimately, besides the end of year, when we're
talking about just a normal month to month, when do you anticipate that you folks
will be at a place that we're only a month or so behind in the reports we're
receiving?
MS. NAKAGAWA: I think it's going to take about a year.
MR. INABA: Okay.
MS. NAKAGAWA: To get through implementation, get our staffing in place
from the Controller down, and get really on track and get some training. I wish it
was sooner, and if it can be we'll push. But I think it's going to take that long to
put some of these processes in place.
MR. INABA: Thank you. And we know you're working on it. So we appreciate
the honesty and know what we have to look forward to. So thank you, both.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Thank you.
MR. CRIDER: Thanks. I just wanted to add one other thing. In addition to the
year in closing, the other big issue is we have to reconcile all the accounts. And
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so one of the big reconciliations is the RPT (Real Property Tax). So, we've got
those biannual billings, so in February and August, that reconciliation is much
more involved than normally. So those particular months, it may take a little
longer to actually close those out to produce the books.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other questions
from my colleagues? Thank you, Director. Thank you, Mr. Crider, for stepping
into the role. Appreciate you. All those in favor of closing file on
Communication 73.1, please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 73.1: The motion to close file on Comm. 73.1 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 143: ANNUAL REVENUE REPORT: JULY 1 2023 — JUNE 30 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated January 31, 2025, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Section 2-12.6 of the Hawaii County Code.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 143. Seconded by
Mr. Onishi.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Council Members, any questions, comments,
discussion? Checking in Kona, any questions?
MS. VILLEGAS: No, thank you.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Ms. Kimball, please.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah, thank you. Director, thank you. I wanted to ask about
the TAT (Transient Accommodations Tax) collections from the last fiscal year, or
the year covered by this report. How is that compared to the previous year; do
you recall?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure. Just to clarify, so this report should have a total
revenues for fiscal year 2023 and 2024. Are you asking about the current year?
Sorry.
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MS. KIMBALL: The year before. Okay.
(Note: At this time, Acting Finance Controller Wilson Crider came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. CRIDER: So yeah, for that fiscal year 2022 is only for six months. So I
believe it's around $13 million.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. That
MS. NAKAGAWA: We can get that for you.
MS. KIMBALL: No. Actually that explains it. I was thinking there had been a
jump but there was not because —
MS. NAKAGAWA: It wasn't a full year.
MS. KIMBALL: It wasn't a full year that was included.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yeah.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. And then, you know, I know that we had some
conversations about this prior but, you know, a lot of these fees have been set
now, 10, 20, 30 or more years old. Is the administration planning on looking at
some of these and making sure that we're matching inflation with some of these
charges? I think that we're probably in some cases paying more out of pocket
than we are charging folks to do the work.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes. And we've had this conversation. I can say I can't
speak specifically for all the departments, but for Finance in particular our
Vehicle Registration and Licensing, we are looking at our fee structure and would
like to come forward to propose some increases particularly in those areas that we
are charging less than we are paying. For instance, in our plates and so what
we're looking at is to make sure that we cover our costs and also that we are in
line with the other counties as well. So when we do come forward we'll show
those comparisons to see we're coming forward with fair increases to mainly
cover our costs. But yes, we're looking at it.
MS. KIMBALL: Great. This has been actually a really helpful and informative
report in general, but again it suffers from the sort of lack of visual display that I
think might be useful for a lot of us to kind of drill down on it. But hopefully that
is something that is part of the new system is the ability to look at this particular
subset of information in a more meaningful way.
MS. NAKAGAWA: We are at the point in the implementation of the system, the
initial part is really the nitty gritty of all of our financials, getting that information
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in there. So we're finally at a point where we can start talking about visual
representation of the information. So yes, we are continuing those discussions as
well. If you have suggestions on this particular report, happy to, you know, take a
look at those. I know we did add, at Chair Inaba's request, the percentage change
and we can continue to do that. So if there's changes like that that make it helpful
to understand the data we'd be happy to do that.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. I do have some ideas on that I'd like to share.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Okay.
MS. KIMBALL: Alright. Thank you. I yield, Chair.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. Any more questions?
Seeing none, all those in favor of closing file on Communication 143, please say
aye.
Vote on Comm. 143: The motion to close file on Comm. 143 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 92-25: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF SERVICES TO
PURSUE FEDERAL AWARDS AND ASSISTANCE
The donation of supportive, consultive, and technical services from Ulupono LLC,
with an estimated value of $90,000, would be used by the Office of Sustainability,
Climate, Equity, and Resilience in its pursuit of federal awards and funding
opportunities.
Reference: Comm.160
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 92-25.
Seconded by Ms. Kagiwada.
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ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Council Members, any questions? We also have
Administrator here in the office if you have any particular questions on this. Yes.
Ms. Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: I was just going to ask Administrator Acasio to come up and
give us an overview. It's actually interesting. This came up when we were in
DC, how come Hawaii County hasn't signed this MOU (Memorandum of
Understanding) yet? And now we are actually moving forward on this. So if you
could just give us a brief overview of what this will enable us to do with
Ulupono?
(Note: At this time, Sustainability, Climate, Equity, and Resilience
Administrator Laura Acasio came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MS. ACASIO: Thank you. Laura Acasio, Office of Sustainability, Climate,
Equity, and Resilience (OSCER). So my understanding is, first of all, I'd just like
to mahalo Ulupono for offering this services consultative technical supportive
services. And basically, their focus of course is quality of life around helping
communities become more self -resilient and self-sufficient through locally
produced food, renewable energy, transportation, as well as management of our
fresh water. So I just wanted to mahalo them for this opportunity and for you
folks to look through it and make decisions accordingly.
The idea is that, for example, I just recently before this meeting got off a call with
our EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) representative because we now have
some access to communication with them. We're finding that it's very
challenging in what they are able to share in terms of specifics around tracking
particular grants. So this is an opportunity either for that particular grant or others
coming forward to build capacity within our County working with different
departments on specifically probably the estimate is $90,000 specifically because
they are looking at one larger grant and another smaller grant, or perhaps three
small grants. I think a lot of that is still up to be determined and what grants it can
be used for. But the idea would be to be building more capacity within our
County in administering a lot of the technical sides and coordinating.
MS. KIMBALL: So if I just may share with my colleagues here, you know, what
some of the other counties are doing is working with Ulupono to help draft these
grant applications. They're providing the technical support again around those
four areas that Administrator Acasio mentioned and then working with a DC
(Washington, D.C.) lobbying firm to actually go after those funds either through
congressionally directed spending or other specifically designated pots of money.
In conversations we had over there we are kind of trailing in our use of both
Ulupono's expertise but also the expertise of some others. So it's something I'd
like to talk with you about and the Mayor about making sure we have a more
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significant presence over there and making sure that we're actually going after the
right kinds of programs.
One of the things that I was told is we are applying for the wrong programs with
grants that could be funded through another program. And so, just doing that is
in your role as OCSER Administrator, you know, coordinating all the cats,
making sure the cats are going after the right projects with the right grant I think
is something that we need to look at improving in the County. So just sharing
that.
MS. ACASIO: Yeah. I look forward to connecting on that.
MS. KIMBALL: Alright. Thank you. I yield.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Ms. Kimball. Ms. Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWADA: Yeah, just a quick question because I wasn't sure. Are they
also helping with grants that we already have but maybe have not gotten the
funding for in our hot little hands yet?
MS. ACASIO: That's a really good question that I would probably have to, in
terms of confirmation, get back to you on.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay.
MS. ACASIO: As far as my understanding is it's also in pursuing new grants.
MS. KAGIWADA: It's mostly about that?
MS. ACASIO: Yeah.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. Okay.
MS. ACASIO: Although we do, I mean, again, I don't want to misspeak in terms
of not having been in all of those conversation.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. We can touch bases on a couple after. Thank you so
much.
MS. ACASIO: But I'll note your question.
MS. KAGIWADA: Okay. And thank you to your staff, Shelly Ogata, for
coordinating the grant as well. Thanks.
MS. ACASIO: Yeah.
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Vote on Res. 92-25
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ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Ms. Kagiwada. Any further discussion,
questions? Nothing about hot hands or cats today? Alright. Thank you,
Administrator. Thank you for your time. All those in favor of forwarding
Resolution 92-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation, please say "aye."
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 92-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder
and Kierkiewicz — 2.
Excused: None.
There being no further business on our agenda today, Acting Chair Hustace
adjourned the meeting at 2:48 p.m. Thank you very much.
, Chair
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