HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/03/18 (2024-2026) DRAFT Committee on Finance
6th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
March 18, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 11:29 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Mr. Matt Kdneali`i-
Kleinfelder, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
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Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member(via videoconference from Hilo)
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member(came in later)
Absent& Excused: Ms. Michelle M. Galimba Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individual registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Joyce Folena: Res. 96-25 (Comm. 169), in support.
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of Business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 24.5: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: JANUARY 1 — 15, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated February 28, 2025, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
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Vote on Comm. 24.5: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 24.5. Seconded
Filed by Mr. Onishi and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Galimba
and Kierkiewicz—2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 24.6: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: JANUARY 16 —31, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa?dated February,28, 2025, transmitting
the above report pursuant to Section 242.3 of the Hawai'i County Code.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 24.6. Seconded'
by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion? Okay,
Council Member Kimball, do we have Finance or OHCD (Office of Housing and
Community Development) in chambers in Hilo?
MS. KIMBALL: Yes we do, Chair.
CHR,KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Beautiful. Will Ms. Nakagawa, Director, if
you,could come up, and then probably a follow-up by OHCD if they are
available?
(Note: Atthis time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Housing
Administrator Kehaulani Costa came forward to address the members of
the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA. Good morning, Council Members. Diane Nakagawa,
Finance Department.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good Morning. Who else is there? Sorry,
it's hard to see on the camera.
M : COSTA: Hi. Good morning. It's Kehau Costa, Housing Administrator.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Hello, Administrator. Thank you for being
here. Two questions. Tinguely Development on the very bottom of our list for
the design build contract for Kukuiola Access Road; percent of the original
contract is extreme being 3,400 percent above what was expected. Can you give
us a breakdown of why? Not itemized but, I mean, what's the deal between the
original contract and where we stand now?
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MS. COSTA: So I'm going to have to get you more detail on that. This contract
was prior to my term. This is an amendment to a contract that's otherwise
complete. We're already in RFP (Request for Proposal) for the build on
Kukuiola. So this project, the design is done on this, I believe. And then this was
an amendment just to include GET (General Excise Tax).
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Yeah, if you could look into that a
little bit and maybe even for our Finance Department, looking at that purpose
provided in the change order for sewer laterals and dither requirements or needs of
via Tinguely Development. But just the original contract versus the cumulative
change orders or contract orders has gained my interest.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Will do, Chair. We'll go ahead and'take a look at it. This
was, you know, the original contract date was back in 2020. And I don't recall
the specifics but there's been a lot of changes. So we'll go ahead,and work with
OHCD and provide some background for you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Beautiful. I appreciate that. I think
someone from Tinguely Development actually inquires being on one of our
commissions as well. So that raised some interest for me. And second one for
Administrator Costa; thinking back to our discussion with OHCD and our
homeless and housing fund and,some of the programs that were offered. This
Vibrant Hawaii Community Base dical Service Navigator's pilot program
sounds very much like what was;put forward,by the CEO (Chief Executive
Officer),'not CEO, the nonprofit Director Paul Normann. Are these similar
programs; is'this an existing program or this is a new program being entered into
an agreement with OHCD?
MS. COSTA: This is an existing program. This is not part of the housing
homeless fund. This is'a different federal fund. I believe it was under COVID
(Coronavirus Disease). I could be wrong. Yeah so this is a contract with Vibrant
Hawai'i. They have social service navigators in each geographic area. The
contract had an ability to extend one year, and this is a no cost extension on an
existing contract.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: So no further cost;just an ongoing contract
being memorialized by the change orders?
MS'. COSTA: Yes. No additional cost.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And this was from ARPA (American
Rescue Plan Act) funds or CARES (Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic
Security Act) funding; one of the two?
MS. COSTA: Yes. ARPA.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: ARPA.
MS. COSTA: Yeah.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. I'm going to follow up with you
offline on that one. Thank you.
MS. COSTA: Okay. Thanks.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Any further discussion? Beautiful.
Thank you for your time and for being here. Thank you, Director, for making
sure all of our different departments are hereto help us with these questions.
Motion is on the floor to close file on Communication 24.6, all in favor?
Vote on Comm. 24.6: The motion to close file on Comm. 24.6 was carried by the,
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Member'Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Galimba
and Kierkiewicz—2
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 96-25, please.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order ofResolution .
Res. 96-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR
AND OF MORETHAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR MULTI-YEAR LEASES
FOR NINE MID-SIZE 4X4 TRUCKS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS
AND RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into five-year lease agreements with an
approximate total monthly cost of$10,000, to transport staff between base yards
and park facilities to perform maintenance and cleaning duties.
Reference: Comm. 169
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 96-25.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Is there anyone from the Parks and
Recreation Department in our chambers this morning?
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MS. KIMBALL: Yes there is, Chair. She's joining us.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Beautiful. Please introduce yourself and
then provide us a little background briefly on what's in front of us today.
(Note: At this time, Parks and Recreation Business Manager
Charmaine Felipe came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MS. FELIPE: Good morning. Charmaine Felipe with Parks and Recreation.
Business Manager.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good morning, Charmaine.
MS. FELIPE: Morning.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: ,What's the scoop?
MS. FELIPE: Well,,Parks and Recreation put together a vehicle replacement plan
and went over it with Finance, came up with,a schedule, and this year alone we
are in need of replacing 16 vehicles, most of which will have been
decommissioned by our Automotive Division from Public Works or will not pass
safety inspection come the next go around. So we are looking at purchasing
seven this year. That request already wentin But we also need to lease nine out
of the,16 vehicles because it wasn't in our current budget.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you. To the Council,
discussion? Council Member Onishi.
MR. ONISBL Thanks;Mr. Chair. Ms. Felipe, is Ms. Nakagawa there too?
MS. FELIPE: Yes.
MR. ONISHL Okay. I like the idea that you folks are doing this that it helps out
the County with, I guess, financing. And I met with Director Nakagawa about the
golf course. Have you folks talked about their equipment at the golf course being
leased?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Good morning again, Council Member. We've talked a
little bit, but we haven't gotten into completing all the research on what is more
beneficial for those particular pieces of equipment. You know, for this one we've
been working with Parks and Recreation for quite a while on the development of
their vehicle replacement plan and we've evaluating how many to purchase and
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how many to lease, and part of the strategy has been of course what's available in
the budget but also long term replacement schedules and making sure that all
these vehicles will not need to be replaced at the same time. Unfortunately, we
are far behind in the replacement of vehicles, and so there's some larger purchases
in the next couple of years so our staff can have what they need to do their jobs.
MR. ONISHL And then maybe explain a little bit more about how this leasing is
going to be working. So after the five years, will the County have an option to
purchase or can we?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Absolutely. So in this case this:is a finance lease not like a
just lease of equipment. So this is just being'able to finance the purchase of these
vehicles over the term.
MR. ONISHL Okay. Okay. Got it. And then now with the old-vehicles, are you
folks going to be getting it where it can be auctioned off to the public to get some
revenue back?
MS. NAKAGAWA: So for those vehicles as with all others in the County, if they
are not operable or are deemed inoperable by our Automotive Division, then yes.
That is something that will go on auction. That's for our Property Management
Division and we are looking to getthat underway shortly.
MR. ONISHL Good because I've heard that there is like, I guess, a number of
vehicles that can be auctioned off but then for I think the past two years nothing
has happened So I look forward to you folks moving forward on that.
MS: NAKAGAWA: Yup. You are correct. It is two years behind, but it is on
our priority,list, and We look to get that done.
MR. ONISHI: Great. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. For the B-52, it's saying that trucks will not be
available for the division to operate effectively, and maintenance of trucks will
take longer due to vehicles needing major repairs. When you're saying, you're
talking about the existing trucks or the new trucks?
NfS. FELIPE: So we have seven of them that are already decommissioned, and
we are borrowing and sharing vehicles currently,which takes a big toll on the
efficiency of getting our staff out to the facilities.
MR. INABA: Okay. Understood. And then,just in terms of the values, I don't
know if this math is computing correctly. I think there's an extra thousand dollars
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per month. For this lease and the $10,000 per month, Director, I think it's
supposed to be $9,000 per month.
MS. FELIPE: That incorporates the interest that we have to pay for the financing.
MR. INABA: Okay. So is that interest included in the total purchase price?
MS. FELIPE: No.
MR. INABA: But it is an expense, right?
MS. FELIPE: Yes.
MR. INABA: Well, Director, afterwards if We can just make sure this is
computing correctly. Thank you.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Council Member,yes. We will. When the department's
submit this, it's their estimate per truck. They still need to go through the bidding
process and then also through the process with the lease, the final lease schedule
and payments, and if there's any changes to this we usually go ahead and note that
as well. So sometimes they are a bit conservative on the price to make sure that it
is covered since procurement has not occurred at this point.
MR. INABA: Okay. Thank you, Yeah. I just want to make sure that what we're
representing here in our public documents is accurate. So if it is an actual
expense for the total price then'let's make sure that it reflects that correctly.
Thank you.
CHR. IANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kimball,just
checking in'
MS. KIMBALL I'm all good. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no
further discussion,just to the departments, thank you. From what I've heard from
our staff in Parks and Recreation, a lot of their vehicles actually have holes in the
floorboards, and they can see the road when they're driving and it's a safety
concern for our employees. So I appreciate the department making some
headway and getting them new vehicles. They are much needed by the
department. Although there is an expense, we've got to keep our guys safe. So
thank you. Okay, without any seeing further, we have a motion on the floor to
forward Resolution 96-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All in
favor?
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Vote on Res. 96-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 96-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Hustace, Inaba, Kagiwada,
Kimball, Onishi, and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder—6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Galimba, Kierkiewicz
and Villegas —3.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Last item, please.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 35: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32,AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAIJ FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2025
Appropriates revenues in the State Grants—Mate Substance Abuse Prevention
Coordination Grant account($7,100); and appropriates the same to the State
Substance Abuse Preventzon'Coordination Grant,account.
Reference: Comm. 170
Intr.by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Bill 35: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 35 on first
(Approved) reading. Seconded by Mir. Hustace and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kimball, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Galimba
and Kierkiewicz—2.
Excused: None.
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ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
MENT: adjourned the meeting at 11:47 p.m. Thank you very much.
Approved:
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair (Date)
Finance Committee
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