HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/04/01 (2022-2024) DRAFT Committee on Finance
7th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
April 1, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 3:34 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr.Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member (came in later)
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Heather Kimball, Member
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member (came in'later)
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 23'.& REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: FEBRUARY 1 — 15, 2025
From Acting Controller Wilson Crider, dated March 5, 2025.
Vote on Comm. �3.8:,. Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.8. Seconded
Filed by Mr. Onishi and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kagiwada and Villegas —2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 23.9: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: FEBRUARY 16 —28, 2025
From Acting Controller Wilson Crider, dated March 11, 2025.
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Vote on Comm. 23.9: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.9. Seconded
Filed by Mr. Onishi and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kagiwada and.Villegas —2.
Excused: None.
Comm. 27.2: REPORT OF DONATIONS RECEIVED FROM THE DANIEL R. SAYRE
MEMORIAL FOUNDATION AS OF FEBRUARY 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated March 13 2025, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Resolution 468-20:„
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 27.2. Seconded
by Mr. Onishi.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Is there any discussion?
MR. INABA: Chair, Fire is here.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Beautiful. Thank you, Mr. Inaba. Go
ahead when you're ready on the donation:
(Note:-At this time, Deputy Fire Chief Daniel Volpe came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. VOLPE Sure: I'll just keep this brief. Just another really, really grateful,
put in on the public record for Laura and Frank Sayre, the Daniel R. Sayre
Foundation. What you see represented in this thousands of dollars of donation as
represents kind of with the Fire Department. So it's a wants versus needs. We
expect,bur needs to the County, needs to public are funded often by the County
budget, right. There exists within the fire service, technology, trends, new things,
pilot programs, new devices, equipment, that's very hard within the existing
structure to sometimes dedicate money for those new idea, those new things.
So with the Sayre's, we are so fortunate for them to be able to provide this
equipment to be able to try things to see, you know, this is our list of our wants,
bind of what was out there. This represents some of the future of some of the
firefighting equipment and they're able to provide that equipment for the
department. So it's a huge benefit to us over to the public.
You will see here some travel expenses related to the pre con of the brand new
Engine 14 that actually was dedicated on the South Kohala area back on
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February 7 h. It was dedicated, it had a name; had the blessing ceremony. And
again, through their foundation, donated an entire fire engine that otherwise, you
know, as you all know we kind of struggle purchasing. So that represents a huge
significant purchase, and we are always, always, grateful.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. And just for the record, could
you introduce yourself?
MR. VOLPE: My name is Daniel Volpe, Deputy Fire Chief.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, sir. Questions, anyone?
MR. INABA: No. Thank you. Just on behalf of the Council again wanting to
mahalo the Sayre Foundation for their Continued support of our.County. Mahalo.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER; Thank you. Council Members? Council
Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHL Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yeah. Also, do you know that the Sayre's are
so, I guess, generous,helpful to the Fire Department and they also donate like
rescue ambulances too, usually. But then the problem with that is that the state
provides the manpower and that's where we've got to work with our legislators to
make sure that they provide us the funding because our island is so big and our
ambulances with the traveling to the differentmedical centers, it takes a toll on
mileage,yeah wear and tear on the vehicles too. So, you know, really thankful.
And all your equipment and stuff like that, is that island wide; do you guys share
it island wide?
MR. VOLPE That's correct. Typically, sometimes how we identify what's
necessary was needed. We usually go down kind of a list, put it out to the Fire
Department, you know, what do you guys need; what are you guys looking for;
what's missing?,Typically, because of how the Daniel R. Sayre Foundation was
started based on the tragedy of the loss of their child, based on some—it was a
specialized technical rescue operation that thankfully we are able to execute well,
but not in'time to save their son. So initially, the impotence for their foundation
was for rescue specialized equipment. So often you will see, again, it kind of
maintains that spirit of that to this day is that often it's focused on technical
rescue. So you'll see a lot of beginning of these items are the clutch, the witney
packs, these are all rope rescue systems. So that said, it's not necessary island
vide but it does reflect to the two rescue companies, which service the entire
island. So you'll see some of this equipment and other stuff that goes to training.
The stuff it is stay with training but again that's focused on delivery island wide.
So yeah, it supports everybody island wide.
MR. ONISHL You know, I just wanted you to acknowledge that because then
public can know what's happening because like Waiakea Fire Station is in my
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district. So I went to them, and I asked them, with my contingency funds, how
can I help you, right, with rescue? They said, "Oh, don't worry because the
Sayre's help us out." And so I'm like, "Okay. Right on." So I just wanted to
acknowledge that. But thank you, Chief.
MR. VOLPE: Thank you very much. They are a huge part of our department and
our island benefits from them being here.
MR. ONISHL Thank you. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Seeing no further
discussion. Yeah, a heartfelt thanks to the Sayre's for what they do for our Fire
Department and thank you for being here today;. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Clerk,
we have the motion on the floor to close file on Communication 27.2, all in favor?
Vote on Comm. 27.2: The motion to close file,on,Comm. 27.2 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas and Chair Kaneali`i=Kleinfelder—9.
and.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Comm. 73.2: MONTHLY THLY BUDGET STATUS REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDED
AUGUST 31, 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated March 12, 2025, transmitting the
about report pursuant to Section 6-6.3(h) of the Hawaii County Charter.
Vote on Comm. 73.2: ' 'Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 73.2. Seconded
Filed by Mr. Onishi and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
and.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Comm. 143.1: ANNUAL REVENUE REPORT: DULY 1, 2023 —DUNE 30, 2024
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated March 3, 2025, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Section 2-12.6 of the Hawaii County Code.
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Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 143.1. Seconded
by Mr. Onishi.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any Discussion? Council Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. We did have this presented to us recently and there
might just have been a filing mix up on our end, but this report just shows the
percentage change from the previous fiscal year. So nothing different than the
one we got a couple weeks ago. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Galimba, go
ahead.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. Yeah,thanks',,Diane. I was just wondering, as
much as I enjoy the origami once a year. I mean, I'm like, wow, it's that time of
year. We have the origami. I'm justwondering if we could perhaps we could
consider another format to bring it in just a little more concentrated: I mean,
because I don't actually understand whatthe point is. I mean, it's interesting. I
love to see year over year and the subcategories are very interesting as well. I just
kind of wonder if like what the legislative history of it is or why we have these
subcategories and the size;and all of that; do you happen to know?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Good afternoon, Council Members. Diane Nakagawa,
Finance Department. I was just speaking earlier with Councilman Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder of the history, and I don't know maybe you'd like to share since as
you had mentioned this was your report request.
MS:GALIMBA., Okay. That explains it.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I'll take your comment as it may have been
intended; This really was to give everyone including the public kind of a real
highlighted condensed version of all of our different revenues and also to provide
when they were changed, if they've been changed, what their rates are, and across
the board so you or the public or anyone viewing it really can get a feel for when
the last time we adjusted whatever rate is in the County from building permits, to
camping permits, to real property tax. I mean, you name it, it's all in here. It
gives you an ability to review it and if we as a body are looking to decrease or
increase any of our revenue sources, you have a basis on when it was changed,
what it is, where it is, kind of all the information that I was searching for at one
point in my time here in one condensed version. I've seen it come to us in
different formats over the years, so totally open to that conversation and look to
the director for her advice.
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MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes. So thank you for that. You know, we are actively
going through implementation of our ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning). So all
the different reports that we put out right now we're working on to make sure that
it can be more efficient and easily produced through our new system. That does
include making sure that the information presented is utilized and put forward in a
manner that is comprehensible for people. So if you have any suggestions, we're
open to it. But we are looking at things like this to make this information just a
little easier to read. And I will point out since you mentioned our monthly budget
status, that was also a point of discussion in making these "reports faster and just
more digestible is on the top of our list and those efficiencies are coming.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay., Thank you. Any further
discussion? Okay. Thank you, Director. Thank you, Council.,:A motion is on
the floor to close file on Communication 143.1. Any further comments? Hearing
and seeing none, motion is on the floor, all in,favor?
Vote on Comm. 143.1: The motion to close file on Comm; 143.1 was carried by
Filed the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewiczy Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kanoali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
and.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 166-25: TRANSFERS/APPROPRIATES AN APPROPRIATION OUT AND FROM
THE DESIGNATED FUND ACCOUNT(S) AND CREDITS SAME TO A
DESIGNA'T'ED FUND ACCOUNT(S)
Transfers $5,212 from the Parks and Recreation Administration Other Current
Expenses account to the Animal Control account to provide a grant to Action 4
Animals to support its rehoming and adoption programs for at-risk animals.
Reference: Comm. 182
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Ms. Galimba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 106-25.
Seconded by Mr. Inaba.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Galimba.
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MS. GALIMBA: Thank you, Chair. I have to thank Finance very, very much for
helping with this. The Council approved the CRF (Contingency Relief Fund)
going to Parks and Recreation and when it actually got there Parks and Recreation
didn't really have an account to deal with this and thought that it would be better
to go to Animal Control, which Animal Control hadn't really done CRFs before
or is just starting to. So we did very much appreciate the help of getting it from
one department to the other. So hope that my colleagues can bear with me on this
extra step we had to take for this money.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you: Any discussion? Hearing and
seeing none, motion is on the floor. Thank you, Council Member Galimba. All
in favor?
Vote on Res. 106-25: The motion to recommend adoption`ref Res. 106-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee MembeisGalimba; Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball,`Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
and.
Noes: None,
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR, ANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 34, please.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 34: AMENDS'CHAPTER 19, ARTICLES 1 AND 7, OF THE HAWAI`I COUNTY
CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO THE
AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING REAL PROPERTY TAX
CLASSIFICATION,
Repeals the,definitions of"affordable rental housing" and "affordable rental rate,"
and amends the requirements of eligibility for the affordable rental housing class.
Reference: Comm. 163
Intr. by: Council Member Inaba
Withdraw Bill 34: Mr. Inaba announced the withdrawal of Bill 34.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 36,please.
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Bill 36: ADOPTS A PAY PLAN FOR PERSONS EMPLOYED BY THE COUNTY
OTHER THAN THOSE WHOSE PAY IS OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR,
DESIGNATING PAYROLL PERIODS, PAY DAYS, PRESCRIBING
REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO OFFICIAL FIDELITY BONDS,
AND REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 24-28 AND ALL AMENDMENTS
THERETO, SAID ORDINANCE TO BE KNOWN AS THE SALARY
ORDINANCE OF 2025
Establishes rates of compensation for appointed employees in the Legislative
Branch and the Office of Housing and Community Development, the County
Physician, Student Helpers, and Senior Community Services Aids for various
County agencies, and incorporates updates to minimum wage positions.
Reference: Comm. 183
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage,of Bill 36 on first
reading. Seconded by Ms. Kagwada.,
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion on the motion? Council
Member Inaba.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Just on'behalf of our—within the Legislative Branch,
there's been one step added for each of'the positions. So just want Council
Members to be aware. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for pointing that out. Council
Member Kagiwada.
MS. KAGIWAbA: Yeah,just my thanks to folks who worked on this and
appreciate that the salaries are low for folks, especially compared to other people
iti"the County who do similar positions. So I do appreciate this ability to step up.
Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`l-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no further discussion.
Just mahalo to the different folks who worked on this. Mahalo, Diane. Diane, I
do have a question for you. Sorry, Director. Does the draft budget take into
account these changes to the salaries for our employees or will it take effect in the
second`
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: I will have to confirm that to see if they're included.
There's a couple of different things happening with the salaries and wages that
were included in this year's budget due to the negotiations occurring at this
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moment. So most of the salaries in the budget, the departments were instructed to
do it with the current year, but for this specifically, let me double check on those.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you. Seeing no further
discussion, motion is on the floor to forward Bill 36 to Council with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Bill 36: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 36 onfirst
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice Vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onish,
Villegas, and Chair Keal `i-Kleinfeldcr—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Bill 37,please.
Bill 37: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO. 24-32, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2025
Increases revenues in the Fund Balance from Previous Year account($70,000,000);
and appropriates the same to the Provision'for Compensation Adjustment-General
account. Funds would be used to pay for Temporary Hazard Pay for all covered
employees for work performed,during the COVID-19 pandemic from March 2020
to March 2021
Reference: Comm. 184
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to'Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 37 on first
reading. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion on the measure? Council
Member,Inaba.
MR. INABA: Yeah. I just want to give Director Nakagawa an opportunity, if
you'd like?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Thank you. Good afternoon again, Council Members. This
is our long awaited item. You know, we've been working on this for quite some
time. So in front of you is a request to amend our operating budget by
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$70 million from our fund balance. I can certainly answer questions on our fund
balance and what that does. But this is for our temporary hazard pay. This is for
all covered employees. We've reached preliminary settlement agreements with
all four unions; UPW (United Public Workers), HFFA (Hawai`i Fire Fighters
Association), SHOPO (State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers), HGEA
(Hawai`i Government Employees Association).
Corporation Counsel is here to answer any questions related to the agreements.
This is the estimate for those four. I will mention that our'estimate is based on the
financial system we have in place today, so it is taking that into account. But
once we get into each and every hour on these timesheets, we'll get a better
estimate. But this is taking into the account that we have with the financial
system that we have today.
MR. INABA: Thank you very much, Director. And with that, thank you to the
team at Corporation Counsel for getting us here, and most importantly to all of
our County employees who kept this ship running during those times. I'll be in
support.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you.
MS. VILLEGAS: Chair?,
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELEiER: Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yes. Thank you, Director Nakagawa, for being here today and
for helping with,this lengthy process. I also want to give a shout out to the prior
administration for hanging on to these funds in the general fund balance in order
to cover these expenses depending on how this circumstance played out. I also
want to thank the current Mayor and administration for navigating these
agreements and honoring the hard work of our County staff during COVID
(Coronavirus Disease).
You know, I ran into Riley Smith, who I'm sure you all may remember and, you
know, he reminded me, he said, "Look, I was asked, voluntold to be down at the
airport." And he was there mitigating the arrival of thousands if not hundreds of
thousands of people still coming to our island that put him in a direct line of
potential contact with COVID when we were right in the throws of it. And
hearing his reflection of that, that he wasn't doing it for potential more financial
pay, but he was doing it because it was the right thing to do. And I believe that us
honoring all the people who put themselves in that line of potential exposure for
the greater good and the benefit of our community; I'm just really grateful that
this is being put to rest,people are being compensated, and for the wisdom. I
know you were serving as Deputy Director under Deanna(Sako), and so for your
help continuing through this process and bringing us to fruition. I'm sure a lot of
people are going to be very relieved. And with that, I yield.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, I just want to make the disclosure that my
significant other is a member of the Hawaii Fire Department and that is one of
the unions that are benefiting from this particular negotiation. I yield.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Sorry, go ahead.
MR. INABA: Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Ki;erkiewicz. I didn't
even think about that. But yes, both my sister and'her partner are members of the
Fire Department as well.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Since we're doing it;my daughter is in the
Police Department. Council Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: I don't have any relatives in any of the unions. Although, I am
a tarping member for HGEA myself.: I,wante to ask since you made me think of
it about this being an estimate and we have talked a`little bit and I'm sure you're
talked with the other Council Member about the challenges will come to actually
figuring out how much each person gets paida.How comfortable are you with that
estimate and what do you think the margin of error is, are we over shooting just in
case? You know, I'm just thinkirg as we're walking into budget discussions next
week, I want to have a sense of what sort of padding we need to think about with
this.
MS. NAKAGAWA: I do think it's a conservative estimate of what we're looking
at: I will caveat'that by saying that we have a lot of challenges with our 20 year
old system and the data it's reporting. So this will be a very detailed labor-
intensive process to calculate each and every hour worked. But with the
information that we have, it is a conservative number.
MS. KIMBALL Conservative as in over-estimating what we could potentially
need?
MS. NAKAGAWA: That's correct.
MS. KIMBALL: Thank you very much. Appreciate that.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Director, I know this
has been on your list for about three years and so I appreciate all the work that
you guys have done. And understanding this is a negotiation between the County
and bargaining units but there is a lot of other thought that has to go into this, so
thank you for what you've brought to the table for this. Mahalo to the
administration.
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MS. NAKAGAWA: Yeah, you know, this was something on all our plates. So I
thank you as well. I think we all had to navigate through holding funds and
making it available while looking at needs of the community. So to get here and
to be able to do what we need to do and move on,you know, and continue with
our budget process, it was really a collaborative effort. So thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yup. Thank you, thank you. And then just
as a final comment and this is absolutely huge for the community. During the
middle of the pandemic when nobody knew anything, about;what was supposed to
happen or how we were supposed to respond, our County workers were front line
providing services that didn't stop to the community, like most of us were. And
although this is a substantial expense for the County, I think for what we went
through and what our County workers did in that time, it was necessary. So this is
huge for our community, and I appreciate everything that happened to get us here,
so thank you. Okay, any further discussion? Okay. Council Members, motion is
on the floor to forward Bill 37 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All
in favor?
Vote on Bill 37: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 37 on first
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, 14ustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewiez, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Acting Chair Hustace
MENT: adjourned,the meeting at4:02 p.m. Thank you very much.
Approved:
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair (Date)
Finance Committee
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