HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/06/03 (2022-2024) DRAFT Committee on Finance
12th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
June 3, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 11:34 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr.Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
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Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Heather Kimball, Member Game in later)
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member (came in'later)
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Marilyn Rose Res. 202-25 (Comm. 319), in support.
(representing Ocean'View
Community Association)
Keoni Fox: Res. 199-25 (Comm. 316), in support.
(representing Ala Kahakai
Trail Association)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 24.11: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: APRIL 1 — 15, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated May 6, 2025, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Section 2-12.3 of the Hawaii County Code.
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Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 24.11. Seconded
by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion on Communication 24.11?
Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Just curious if anybody from the
Recovery Division is on Zoom? I had a question related to the buyout program
and the funding going towards demolition. Okay. Seeing no one is on, Chair, I'll
follow up offline. Thank you. I appreciate it. I yield.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no other lights, Ms.
Nakagawa, I have a question about the communication as Well. Same question
that Ms. Kierkiewicz was leaning towards, without knowing her question. Sorry.
My only question was on the change order sheet there's two references that looks
like the same item, but they have a different change order number, one and two,
but they have the same job number.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Good morring,again. Diane Nakagawa, Finance
Department. Just looking at it for a second.
CHR,KANELI`I-KLEINFELDER: It's the third and fourth item on the
communication'.
MS: NAKAGAWA: I do see that'and I'm just trying to figure out
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: I've never seen that before.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yeah. I'm happy to follow up. I'll look into if it came
through at different times. But then it would've been a different change order. So
let me follow up and see why they're on two separate lines.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yeah. It looks like it should've been on one, but I can
confirm. No?
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Member Kierkiewicz. Thank you,
Ms. Nakagawa.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. I see Recovery Officer Le here, if I could just
ask him a couple of questions. Thank you, Recovery Officer. You know, I
appreciate the opportunities to see these change orders because it's a great chance
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to kind of get an update on where we are with different projects. As you know the
voluntary buyout program is something that you and your team have built from
scratch and it's been many, many years in the making to help folks get closure
and now we're at the point where there's demolition happening. So a couple of
these change orders, we see two, and perhaps they're separate contracts. But one
is for signage installation and then another is for soil surveys, sampling of
hazardous materials; where are we in the process; when will demolition be
complete and about how many properties have structures that need to be
demolished?
(Note: At this time, Disaster Recovery Officer Douglas Le came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. LE: Good morning, Council_ Thanks,'Chair, for the time, Douglas Le,
Disaster Recovery Officer for the Planning Department. To help,answer the
questions I just want to take a really brief step back in terms of the volunteer
housing buyout program. As folks may be aware,many of the properties, the vast
majority that we've acquired are completely inundated by lava, but there are
certain properties that were eligible because of partial inundation, complete
isolation by the 2018 eruption and also cracks and other geological features that
formed during the eruption'that have made these Properties less safe than they
were before. So as people,apply for the program,the County is obligated to
maintain these properties as open space in perpetuity. So from a list of about 30
somewhat properties that still have standing structure; full homes, some of which
you can drive up to still and some having major debris causes by structures that
were taken by lava or by wildfire. It is our obligation to clear these properties.
So the department took a pretty strategic approach in terms of understanding
given the future intentto be undeveloped, you know, really how much
remediation, what kind of investments would best be suited to be able to bring
these properties into the future state of being cleared or undeveloped.
We hired,a firm to work with us through the permitting, the cost estimation, and
also the design of this demolition work. In total, about 26 properties are getting
treated through this program and, you know, one approach to the project could've
been to do an A to Z assessment of everything going on in the property. Some are
formerly ag; some had different materials even if they're residential on them. We
took a very different approach to me more
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Sorry, Mr. Le.
MR. LE: Yes.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: So this is a change order. Interested in the
program but I think a program kind of review would be better as a maybe
different communication, if you would.
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MR. LE: Fair. Sorry about that.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And we're also a little bit behind schedule
today.
MR. LE: Okay. Got it.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: So with that in mind, please go ahead. But
just—thank you.
MR. LE: Understood. So with that context, the nevi change order's before you.
One deals with applying signage at some of the properties that are accessible
really to make sure that the public knows that this is public property and to not
trespass. And the second change order relates to properties as part of an overall
assessment; one that needed more deeper soil testing because arsenic was found
on site about acceptable levels and for a handful of subset of properties,
engineering work needed to be done to.really make sure that when the demolition
crews come in, the design and the method of the work is safe for the workers and
for the position of hazardous material_ So both change orders came of their own
time kind of within a month or two apart. And,as we worked with a contractor we
routed both simultaneously, if that makes sense..
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. That's very helpful. And I just want to confirm that
this contract does support demolition of these 26 structures, none of the material
is salvageable and that this funding also includes a disposal fee.
MR. LE: This'funding is for the engineering and permitting side of it. We will
address disposal costs with the actual demolition work once it is bid out.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay; It was a little fuzzy here in the contract. Thank
you,
MR. LE; Understood.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Chair, I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS:'VILLEGAS: Yeah. Thank you for clarifying that. I guess my first question
comes within these properties, there was no opportunity for deconstruction or was
there opportunity and is that included in this change order?
MR. LE: So this change order doesn't deal with the question of deconstruction or
neither the change orders, I'm sorry. Our team is working kind of really closely
with Engineering for them to understand if a home can be salvageable outright
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and also if any materials can be deconstructed for future use. But we don't have a
clear answer on that just yet.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay. I just want to put a plug in for that because I know that
there have been multiple conversations and the opportunities to utilize whatever
resources might still be salvageable from these structures for the benefit of the
Puna community for it to remain there and be able to be reused, I think is a viable
option and solution. So thank you. I yield.
MR. LE: Understood. Thank you for that.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Mr.,Le, thank you. The
change order communication has the same job number, the same change order
numbersorry, it has the same job number same contract number but different
change order or SA (Supplemental Agreement) numbers, I'm just wondering
about the reasoning behind that. There's supposed to be one contract? '
MR. LE: So both change orders befordyou amend a single contract, which would
have a single contract number and a single j ob number. The two were routed as
change orders one and two just because we received the scopes for the change
orders from our contractors separately. And as We worked on the project overall,
timing just worked its way out that they were routed simultaneously which is why
they appear on this report singularly for the period of coverage.
CHR,KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. LE: Of course.
CHR IANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you for your time today,
Mr. Le. Seeing no further discussion, motion is on the floor to close file on
Communication 24.11. All in favor?
Vote on Comm. 24.11: The motion'to close file on Comm. 24.11 was carried by
Filed the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Please let the record reflect that Council
Member Kimball and Villegas have joined us. Resolution 188-25, please.
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ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
Res. 188-25: COMMITS TO FUNDING THE COST ITEMS AGREED UPON BY THE
EMPLOYERS AND THE HAWAI`I GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION UNITS 02, 03, 04, 13 AND EMPLOYEES EXCLUDED FROM
THOSE BARGAINING UNITS FOR THE CONTRACT PERIOD DULY 1, 2025
THROUGH DUNE 30, 2029
The estimated costs over the four years of the new contract resulting from
across-the-board increases, step increases, and lump,sum payments would be
$46,901,771.
Reference: Comm. 30.0
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali'i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 188-25. Seconded by'Mr,Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion on the resolution? Council
Member Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah. I think t'd,be appropriate for Finance and HR(Human
Resources) to just give us an overview of this and the next one and how it's
incorporated into the budgets that's before us at this time.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for being here today. Please
introduce yourself.
(Note: At this time, Human Resources Director Sommer Tokihiro and
Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to address the members
of the Committee.)
MS. TOKIHIRO: Ai. Good morning. Sommer Tokihiro, Director of Human
Resources.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Good morning again. Diane Nakagawa, Finance
Department.
M :'TOKIHIRO: Sorry. Can you ask your question again?
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah. I'm hoping that you can just kind of couch us in the
negotiations and how this has been incorporated into the budget for the next year
as we're discussing that right now and anything relevant in terms of other units
that we're still working on negotiations with.
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MS. TOKIHIRO: Yes. So we have tentative agreements with UPW (United
Public Workers) and HGEA (Hawai`i Government Employees Association) and
both of these tentative agreements are for contracts of duration of four years. We
are continuing; we're moving into arbitration for HGEA Unit 15; also SHOPO
(State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers) and HFFA (Hawai`i Fire
Fighters Association). So there is continuing contract discussion going on with
those units, but for these units in HGEA and UPW, we were able to arrive at these
tentative agreements for the four-year contract duration;
MS. NAKAGAWA: In response to your question'about the budget, Finance has
prior to this negotiation kind of coming to this pointy we did estimate an increase
in each of the bargaining units and that is reflected in and accounted for in the
proposed 2026 budget.
MS. KIMBALL: Accounted for at the percentage increase that has been
anticipated for what cover?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Finance did an estimate of these costs.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay., Great. That's all the questions I had. Chair. Thank
you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLETIFELDER: Thank you. Anyone else? Council
Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHt: Thanks, Chair. I just wanted to make a comment that usually
HGEA follows police and fire when they do their contracts, and basically this is
state wide, correct?
MS. TOKIHIRO: Correct; These are statewide contracts.
MR.'ONISHL Arid,as Iwmentioned before in the budget, I think we need or
overall we need I guess this administration to push for our Unit 3 employees, that
they need to get, to me, a little bit higher increases in their pay because of all the
work that they do. So I just wanted to, you know, let you folks know again, that
maybe in the next turnaround that you folks can look into something like that.
And I know you need, it's a state wide; you need the governor with his four votes
and one of the Mayor's to agree upon that. So something to look at and try work
onto that. Thank you.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much
for your work to date. I think this is long awaited by much of our community and
a lot of our workers in the County. Thank you. With that, motion is on the floor
to forward Resolution 188-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All
in favor?
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Vote on Res. 188-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 188-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 189-25: COMMITS TO FUNDING THE COST ITEMS AGREED UPON BY THE
EMPLOYERS AND THE UNITED PUBLIC WORKERS UNIT 01 AND
EMPLOYEES EXCLUDED FROM BARGAINING UNIT 01 FOR THE
CONTRACT PERIOD JULY 1, 2025 THROUGH JUKE 30,2029
The estimated costs over the four years of the new contract resulting from
across-the-board increases would be$24,463,678.
Reference: Comm,301
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption',of
Res. 189-25. Seconded by Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELEiER: Any discussion? Council Member
Villegas.
1 S: VILLEGAS: Yes, I just had a quick question. Director Nakagawa, I believe
this would be for you or maybe HR,,but I'll throw it out and let you guys tell me
who's best. For the bargaining units still in arbitration, how do we estimate the
cost for our budget for taxpayers?
(,Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: So at the time when Finance was developing the budget we
kind of looked at an across the board percentage knowing that there may be some
fluctuations in the different bargaining units.
MS: VILLEGAS: Okay. So you probably budgeted for the higher, potential
higher?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Again, we looked at what we thought would be a reasonable
percentage based on kind of what we've seen in the past and some of the things
that we're looking at.
MS. VILLEGAS: Okay, okay.
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MS. NAKAGAWA: But that's without the information that we have today.
MS. VILLEGAS: Great. And from what I'm seeing here, it's between three and
four percent is what the numbers are coming through at. Okay Great. Thank
you. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. Seeing not further
discussion, motion is on the floor to forward Resolution,I 89-25 to Council with a
favorable recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 189-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 189-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,`Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kdneal i'i-Kleinfelder—9. '
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution'198-25 please.
Res. 198-25: ACCEPTS THE DONATION OF DEAL PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BY TAX
MAP KEY: 6-4-006:050, SITUATED ATPU`UKAPU, DISTRICT OF SOUTH
KOHA .;A, ISLAND, COUNTY, AND STATE OF HAWAI`I
The Iandowrler seeks to donate the subject property to the County for drainage
maintenance purposes.
Reference: Comm. 315
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Res. 198-25: ' 'Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 198-25.
(Approved), , Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Committee Members, the
of Business: following items were taken out of order:
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Res. 200-25: ACCEPTS ALL DONATIONS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY THE
CAPITALIZATION PROCEDURES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
AND RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
JUNE 30, 2026
Provides County Council pre-authorization for the County to accept donations that
are not covered by the Finance Department's capitalization procedures for Fiscal
Year 2025-2026.
Reference: Comm. 317
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 200-25. Seconded by Ms, Villegas.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion on the resolution? Council
Member Kierkiewicz, go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to take an opportunity to
share with our newer Council Member and Council Member Onishi as well;
former Council Member, In the past, the Council would have to receive a
resolution for every single item that was being donated to the County, and before
the resolution passed the department, agency, would not be able to utilize that
donation. So this streamlines the process. And I want to thank former Council
Chair Aaron Chung for his wisdom and efficiency in designing this process. So
this justre-ups and reaffirms our current process, which is one resolution tracking
all the donations on a quarterly basis that way our County departments can utilize
the he
of equipment or service a lot sooner. Thank you, Chair. I yield.
CHR. IANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Seeing no further discussion,
motion is on the floor. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 200-25: ' 'The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 200-25 was
(Approved), , carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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Res. 201-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS
FOR AN AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI`I AT MANOA
AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO SUCH AGREEMENT
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a multi-year cost sharing agreement, with a
term of five years, with the University of Hawaii at Manoa to share the cost of
funding two additional Extension Agent positions in Hawaii County to cover
Indigenous Crops/East Hawaii Master Gardeners and East Hawaii Livestock.
Reference: Comm. 318
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 201-25. Seconded by Mr„ Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion on the resolution? Council
Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHL Thank you, Chair. Can;I have R&D`(Research and Development)
come up, Finance come up, Corporation Counsel come up, please? Okay. So
members, during the budget you guys heard nne talking about this and now what I
understand is that there was never a resolution done prior to when this agreement
was done, this contract back themI guess in 2024. And so now they realize that
this was never done, so that's why it's coming in front of us now. So it's not
something new, but it's something old.'
Bufwithin the contract that I got to review, it's not clear within all the wordings
thatwere done. And so in this resolution it talks about five years but in the
contracts they talk about three and five. So I will give, I guess, R&D first. But,
you know, Dennis,I don't want to put you on the spot because this administration
is new. It was done with the previous administration, right? So I don't know if
maybe Mr. (Glenn) Sako would be a better person to answer some of the
questions. But then,after you can go, R&D, then I'll let Corporation Counsel and
then Finance kind of talk about this contract.
(Note: At this time, R&D Deputy Director Dennis Lin came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. LIN: Okay. Dennis Lin, Deputy Director for Research and Development.
So we are currently working on amendments to the contract to clean up some of
the language based off of the concerns that you had, Council Member. So
Corporation Counsel is working on that. We are also working with CTAHR
(College of Tropical Agriculture and Human Resilience) to make sure that
language is appropriate and authorized for both parties. But yeah, I don't have
much historical context, but we do have Mr. Sako here that could give you some
of that history.
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MR. ONISHL Okay. Maybe Corporation Counsel, any comments?
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Renee Schoen came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. SCHOEN: Yeah. Renee Schoen, Corporation Counsel. So Mr. Lin is
correct in that our office is working on the existing contract. It was executed I
believe on July 1, 2024. There are some terms that need to be cleaned up, and so
we're working on that. And it's my understanding that this resolution actually
relates back to that contract.
MR. ONISHL Correct. And then maybe you can explain to the Counsel on how
this contract was created or by which department?
MS. SCHOEN: I'm not sure. It looks like it might have been UH's (University
of Hawaii) form probably. But I'm not sure.
MR. ONISHL Okay. Mr. Sako.
(Note: At this time, Agricultural Economic Development Specialist
Glenn Sako came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. SAKO: Glenn Sako,Economic DevelopmentSpecialist working with
Agriculture. So Council Member, the agreement came from CTAHR, the College
of Tropical Agriculture and Human Resilience, and it was back then in 2023, I
believe, had started. And there was this lag period where unfortunately they do
take time in reviewing the agreements and we hadI am surprised that if we did
not have a resolution to enter into an agreement because my understanding was
that we needed a resolution to eater into an agreement with all government
entities. So I'm surprised by that. But it is from their side that they sent the
agreement.
MR. ONISHL Okay. So you mentioned that it was initiated by CTAHR. But
when I met with you folks, and I think at this Council budget hearing, it was
mentioned,that because of that survey from the community that R&D did, it was
needed more extension agents, right?
MR, SAKO: Correct.
MR. ONISHL So to me if the County had done that research and getting all the
info and finding out that the community needs more extension agents, why didn't
the County draft the contract instead of CTAHR?
MR. SAKO: I was not involved in the discussions coming before that agreement
to enter into the cost sharing. However, as I was reflecting upon what had
happened the extension agent is an employee of the University of Hawaii.
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MR. ONISHL Correct.
MR. SAKO: And so that's probably why they issued the agreement from their
side for us to
MR. ONISHL But then who initiated this relationship or moving forward with
this?
MR. SAKO: It was through the previous director and the associate dean of
extension.
MR. ONISHL But through that survey that the County did?
MR. SAKO: Using that as a basis.
MR. ONISHL That needed these extensions?
MR. SAKO: Correct.
MR. ONISHL Okay. Thank you. Director Nakagawa, as of today has CTAHR
provided invoices for the previous months? Which it states in the contract it's
supposed to be every month on A certain date to be forwarded to the County, right,
so the County can pay their salaries.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS: NAKAGAWA: Yes. Diane Nakagawa, Finance. The department who
oversees and manages the contracts would be the ones approving the invoice. I
mean, I cari:double check on'that but I believe that the last update I had from
R&D was they were still in the process of hiring and so they have not yet
expended their funds for the current year.
MR. ONISHL Okay. But then at our meeting with CTAHR, R&D, you were
there, they mentioned that they didn't submit any invoices to the County with like
before we met.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Because they were getting through the hiring process.
MR. ONISHL Yes. Right.
MS. NAKAGAWA: So that oversight again would be something in the terms of
the agreement that's managed through R&D.
MR. ONISHL And then if they don't submit their invoices in time for County,
we won't be able to pay them, correct?
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MS. NAKAGAWA: That is correct.
MR. ONISHL So, you know, Members, I look at this and then, you know, I see
how this is happening and I kind of like very like, I don't know, like upset of how
this whole thing is happening, right? And then like I mentioned, the contract
itself is flawed, right? Because in the contract it states about like three years and
now it's in front of us for five years and they're doing a calendar year instead of
fiscal year, okay, so it throws off all the numbers again. They have this inside the
contract stating about how like before the next calendar year they're supposed to
come back to the County to negotiate their contacts again. Is that correct, Deputy
Director Lin?
MR. LIN: Sorry, could you repeat the question?
MR. ONISHL Okay. In the contract it states about like a month before the
beginning of the new contract, CTAHR is supposed to come back and also
negotiate I guess for the coming year,-
MR. LIN: Correct.
MR. ONISHL Yeah. And so it's already like iii December of last year, they
didn't come to, I guess the County to negotiate for this coming new calendar year,
which is going to be the 2025, right? So it kind of throws off everything for the
County side. So to me, this is the contract,that needs to be redone, right? And so
I have a hard;time excepting this resolution,but I know we might have to. Yes.
MR. LIN: Yeah. Dennis Lin, Deputy Director for Research and Development.
We would actually, the department will offer the option to withdraw the
resolution:and-whenve get the contract cleared up and the language approved by
Corporation:Counsel, we'd,bring it back.
MR.'ONISHL Okay. I love that. Okay. Thank you.
MR. LIN:' Yeah,thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay, thank you. Mr. Lin, are you saying
we're going to withdraw this resolution?
MR,. LIN: Yeah, we're okay with withdrawing it and we'll come back at a later
time when the language cleared up and we get all of our ducks in a row.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Council Member, a motion please?
Withdraw Res. 201-25: Mr. Inaba announced the withdrawal of Res. 201-25.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Mr. Clerk, everything good?
Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Onishi.
Res. 202-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS
TO ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR REAL
PROPERTY TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a two-year lease agreement with the option to
renew for one additional year with the Ocean View Community Association, Inc.,
with an estimated cost of$450 per month, for space:located at 92-8924 Leilani
Circle.
Reference: Comm. 319
Intr. by: Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 202-25. Seconded by'Mr. Hustace.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Discussion on the motion or the resolution;
you want to say anything? Council Member Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: I just wanted to say thanks to Parks and Recreation and to
Ocean View Community Center and especially Marilyn Rose for all that they do
in this community. That's all.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Inaba.
MR.'INABA: Thank you. I just want to take the opportunity, you know, within
the Legislative Research Branch (LRB), there's an effort to make sure that the
resolutions that come before us contain all the information that it should. It looks
like the previous one might've still had some questions, but when we look at
Resolution 202-25, the content of the resolution really gives the body and most
especially the public a clear understanding of what is being requested and
approved: So I just want to mahalo the Clerk, LRB, and the Department of
Finance for working together to provide the public and this body with better and
more clear documents. Mahalo.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Inaba. Okay,
seeing no further discussion. Motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 202-25
to the Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
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Vote on Res. 202-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 202-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 203-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF'LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR ONE ASPHALT
PAVER TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate total monthly cost of$9,374.03, to be used for construction,
resurfacing, and maintenance projects.
Reference: Coinm. 320
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption:of
Res. 203-25. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELEiER: We have our department personnel here
with us, Ms. Kelsey Kalua- Lewis. Please introduce yourself. Maybe just a
quick
(Note: At this time, Public Works Business Manager Kelsey Kalua-Lewis
came forward,to address the members of the Committee.)
MS:KALUA-LEWIS: Hi. Good afternoon. I'm Kelsey Kalua-Lewis, Business
Manager with Department of Public Works. This is just to enter into a multi-lease
agreement; our Highways Division for an asphalt paver beginning Fiscal Year
2025; payments start probably more next fiscal year due to the timing.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Discussion? Council Member
Onishi.
MR,. ONISHL Thanks, Chair. Just a question. So with this being I guess a lease
for the County, so how will that affect with our private companies that do some of
the paving work. I mean, what would be the percentage of public paving and
private paving?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: For the Highway Maintenance Division?
MR. ONISHL Yeah.
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MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Is this in regard to the private roads ordinance? Usually
we don't maintain private.
MR. ONISHL But this is leasing a paver?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Yes. Yeah, to just do the maintenance work for the
County roads for the Highway Maintenance Division.
MR. ONISHL Right. Correct. Yeah. But then I know there's something about
like the tonnage like if there's so much asphalt tonnage being used then it has to
be I guess contracted out.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Yes, yes, yes. .
MR. ONISHL Yeah? Right.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: So most materials we,do purchase I believe it's via, I'll
have to double check, but I believe there could be a`price term agreement(PTA).
I'll have to double check to confirm.
MR. ONISHL Okay. So this is not going to affect those agreements?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: No. So the asphalt and the materials for paving, that's in
our operating budget in a separate account: So every year we do budget for
materials.
MR. ONISHL Okay. But for contracting the paving to private companies, they
have,also an agreement with the'County, correct?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: We would have to enter into an agreement if we wanted
to contract outwork.
MR. ONISHL Okay. Finance, would you know anything about that?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. NAKAGAWA: I apologize, Councilman, I'm not sure I understand what the
question is.
MR. ONISHL Okay. To my understanding is that I guess there might be an
agreement between private contractors, or I guess maybe with the Union of
Operating Engineers, right, and County about using private companies depending
on the scope of the job.
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MS. KALUA-LEWIS: So I think for the Highways Division, right, we'll use our
internal workforce. When we do more of, I guess, at the point where we would
need to contract out for any reason it would have to be routed through an
agreement. I don't think there's any existing agreements with private contractors
in place for Highway Maintenance. For Engineering, of course we do contract
services out all the time.
MS. NAKAGAWA: So I'm just wondering, Council Member, if you're making
the distinction between work that's performed by our staff"and then work that's
contracted out. Is that what you're trying to ask?
MR. ONISHL Right. Yeah. And depending,on the stop of the jobs, yeah?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Correct. The scope of the job. There is'a determination
when we go through this contract process that routes through HR that determines
whether or not these are work customarily performed by our team,by County
workers. So there is a distinction between what our staff does and what we're
able to contract out and that does go through a review when these types of
agreements with outside entities are routed., -
MR. ONISHL Okay. Okay. Thank you. Malia, you have something since you
came up?
(Note: At this time, Finance Deputy-Director Malia Kekai came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MS: KEKAL Hi. Malia Kekai, Deputy Finance. I was just going to add pretty
much what they both said, which is Engineering obviously does new roads and
then also major rehab, so their huge projects and that's when most of the time we
have them contract it out. They are huge CIP (Capital Improvement Projects),
whereas when,we're looking at just maintenance, highway maintenance, that falls
under Highway maintenance, those are the smaller jobs, the ones that we can do
ourselves. So that's usually the main distinction.
MR. ONISHI: And I don't want to go too much but like what is minor repairs or
major? Because I see sometimes, they contract Glover to go out and kind of
scrape the asphalt, right? And then they repave County highways, whereas before
I used to see back then when we were there they used to just cover over layers and
layers on the road, so roads just get higher and higher and higher, right? And then
flooding used to happen to the neighbors because of the water running off, right?
But now I see a little bit different process.
MS. KEKAL I mean, really that's the expertise of Neil (Azevedo) and his guys
and also Keone (Thompson), as they look at it and they determine basically at a
certain point whether it's within our Highways scope or within Engineers' scope,
and usually it really is. Like Waikoloa Road for instance, we did a full repave of
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that. That was an Engineering project not a Highways project. So it just really
depends on how much they're going to do.
MR. ONISHL Yeah. Because I just look at it being shared because, I mean,
private companies have, you know, our constituents working for them and if they
don't have jobs then they're out, right? And then—so I'm just looking at like a
balance. Yeah. Thanks. I yield, Chair.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. I wanted'to springboard off of some of
the questions that Council Member Onishi was sharing., Finance Director, you
mentioned there being some kind of policy within each 141�where internally we
would make the determination around when Highways Maintenance crews are
allowed to do construction type work.
MS. NAKAGAWA: So it's not specifically justto Highways Maintenance. It's
all our contracts and the work that's to be performed. So the standard contract
routing form would have those check boxes that does get reviewed by HR and
then eventually to Finance on exactly what work is being performed. So I don't
have it in front of me, but I think it was workcustomarily performed by civil
service or to that effect and it,would be stated in one of these areas, or if it wasn't.
So as the department and working with our Corporation Counsel prepares that,
that information gets put into contract routing and routed through DHR to review
for the appropriateness of the work and the type of contract that it is.
1 5: KIERKIEWICZ: If a maintenance crew is doing work that is more closely
aligned,with construction, internally are we making wage determinations
differentials? Because maintenance is supposed to do maintenance but if they're
doing construction, is there a swage differential that we are taking a look at?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: .So to my knowledge Highway Maintenance should just be
doing maintenance Versus more of the construction going to the Engineering
Department. So right now they do not receive any differentials of wages; the
Highway Maintenance crews.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I guess I'm just trying to understand because there have
been situations where maintenance crews have been doing construction related
work internally. Wanting to understand when that's allowable and when it's
appropriate, and on top of that where is the testing and inspection happening
regarding the compaction and quality standards; is there a third parry that's being
engaged to do that? I don't know if we have the answers to those questions today.
But I do want to put it out there and then by Council reading getting a sense of,
for these paving projects, what's being handled internally and what's being
handled, as Council Member Onishi pointed out, by the private sector and what is
the policy for determining who does what.
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MS. NAKAGAWA: Thank you, Council Member, for the question. Don't mean
to speak on behalf of Public Works, but I think we'd be happy to come back with
a little more clarity to your questions.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Appreciate it. I yield.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Yeah. I agree. We'll opine, of course, when the director
is available, we'll kind of discuss and we'll be ready for Council. Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. How many pavers is this total?
This is one, but how many pavers total for Department of Public Works?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: So we currently have two pavers:
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Two or three? I thought yqu had three.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: I believe this would be our third one.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: This is your third or is this your fourth?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: I think this would be the third. I'll double check.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLENFELDER: Double check that for me. Either way I'm
supportive because we push for more road mile being paved every year and Neil
was doing a,tremendous job at doing that with the fuel tax revenues coming in;
different projects that they've taken on. We have a 1,000 miles of roadway in our
County inventory. If we're doing 30 miles of roadway a year, it's going to take
33 years to get back to where we started. And every time we buy a paving
machine, and,we allow our crews to do more work and get more done, we're
paving more road miles per year, we're making a step in the right direction. And
if we have one break, we have a backup. I think before we'd have to transport
one from Kona to Hilo to do the work and then back to Kona. It was nonsense for
how many road miles we have to do. So completely support this.
And I'd be careful not to bring in outside interest into discussion about how we
lease a paving machine for the department versus how we drive policy for the
department because those to me are two separate issues that we can address in this
room, but I think should be addressed in the appropriate areas. If we're
discussing a lease agreement for a piece of machinery, beautiful. But if we're
addressing policy, that's a whole different issue. So I completely support the
resolution. Thank you for the background. And then please let me know at the
next meeting if this makes four or three because I thought we were on three
because we had one in west, one east with a backup. I think this makes four. But
either way, I support it.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Okay, thanks. I'll check with Neil or T'Jaye (Forsythe).
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Okay. With that, motion is on
the floor to forward Resolution 203-25 to the Council with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 203-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 203-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball„On'ish ,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 204-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR FOUR GRAPPLE
TRUCKS TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease`agreement with an
approximate total monthly cost of$20,823.62,.to be used to perform routine
maintenance functions,
Reference: Comm. 321
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Res. 204-25: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 204-25.
(Approved) Seconded by Ms. Galirnba and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes. Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
'Noes: None.>
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 205-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER,INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR ONE
EXCAVATOR TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate total monthly cost of$5,187.43, to be used for construction,
resurfacing, and maintenance projects.
Reference: Comm. 322
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
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Vote on Res. 205-25: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 205-25.
(Approved) Seconded by Ms. Villegas and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 206-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR ONE ASPHALT
DISTRIBUTOR TRUCK TO BE USED BY,THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an'
approximate total monthly cost of$4,644.22,to be used for construction,
resurfacing, and maintenance projects.
...............
Reference: Comm. 323
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommen'd'adoption of
Res. 206-25. Seconded by Ms.`Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Any discussion? Council Member Onishi.
MR. ONISHL Thanks, Chair. Just wanted to make a comment. It looks like
we're going to'have;a great crew. I mean, right? It's a whole new set crew that
we're goingxo be having.
(Note: At this time, Public Works Business Manager Kelsey Kalua-Lewis
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: No. Same crews;just more equipment to support kind of
what Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder was saying to kind of keep up. And
I believe the current, over the past years it has always been to continue to pave
roads and then to kind of increase that number of road miles paved annually. So
this is just I want to say it's having the right amount of resources where they
need to be on the island to do continuous work.
MR. ONISHL Right. Good, good. And I like the idea about the leasing part and
so it's not like lease to own or is there like some kind of contract like that?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Yeah, lease to own.
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MR. ONISHL But we don't have to own?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: I don't think we would have to own, but the intent of
these are to own.
MR. ONISHL Yeah. Because then we could like later on five years from now
turn it back in and get something new again, right? Could we do something like
that?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: That I am unsure of. Usually when we purchase this type
of equipment we do lease to own.
MR. ONISHL Okay. Because we're looking at something like that with the golf
course, having their, you know, major lawmnowers whereafter a certain year
because of the age maybe and the parts, to get the parts, because every time things
are changing. So I mean, yeah,but great idea. Thanks.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: I do have clarification on the question you had for the
paver.
CHR,KANELI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes, Yes.
1 5: KALUA-LEWIS: I don't know if I can speak to it now?
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Go ahead.
MS:KALUA-LEWIS: It is three. This will be four.
CHR. IKANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: This will be our fourth, yeah. Thank you.
Thank you for that.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Thanks.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Sorry. What is your title again? I forget,
sorry.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Business Manager.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Business Manager Kalua-Lewis, these are
all being forwarded by T'Jaye, is that correct; and the department?
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Yes.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good. Just tell them well done.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: Thank you. Will do.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Seeing no further discussion,
motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 206-25 with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 206-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res, 206-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz,,Kimball, Onish ,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder=9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 207-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR ONE TEN-TON
PNEUMATIC ROLLED TO BE USED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate total monthly cost of$3,198:08',to be used for construction,
resurfacing, and maintenance projects.
Reference: Comm. 324
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 207-25. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion on the
resolution'. Okay,hearing and seeing none
(Note: At this time, Public Works Business Manager Kelsey Kalua-Lewis
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS:KALUA-LEWIS: If I may comment, sorry.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yeah. Yes please. Business Manager
Kalua-Lewis, go ahead.
MS. KALUA-LEWIS: It's contagious. Anyway, I just wanted to mention, you
know, I know this is a lot of resolutions that we're putting forward. It was in our
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Fiscal Year 2025 budget. We did have it budgeted; it just took some time to get
through the process. So thank you.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you for saying that. That was
actually one of the questions I was going to ask. I was thinking about that as we
walk through all of these as a total. Thank you. Okay. Any discussion? Okay,
hearing and seeing none. Motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 207-25 to
Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?,,
Vote on Res. 207-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 207-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,,Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onish ,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder 9.,
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Res. 208-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUND 'OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER INTO A MULTI-YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THREE FIRE
APPARATUSES TO BE USED,BY.THE HAWAI`I FIRE DEPARTMENT
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a Five-year lease agreement with an
approximate total monthly cost of$92,693.10, to replace units at Haihai,
Kealakekua, and Makalei Fire Stations.
Reference: Comm. 325
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 208-25. Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Council Members, discussion? We do
have the Fire Department here joining us today. Okay. I do have one question.
The fourth whereas clause, we have our monthly total, our annual total, but I'm
wondering if the annual total is the total-total, or if there's because there's no
time, unless I missed it. A term of five years. So we have five years at
$1.1 million annually. Just double checking.
(Note: At this time, Assistant Fire Chief Darwin Okinaka came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. OKINAKA: Morning. Assistant Fire Chief Darwin Okinaka. As far as the
total for each apparatus currently the going rate for a type triple combination
pumper, which is what these are, our typical fire engines, is about$1.5 million.
So if you multiply that by three, that would be the total cost of all three.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And then this would be a multiyear
lease?
MR. OKINAKA: Multiyear, five years, I believe,yeah? Diane might be able to
answer. Yeah.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. And then'the apparatus that you
currently have, how old are they, each one respectively?
MR. OKINAKA: It's 18 years, 19 years, and the Haihai Station apparatus is
actually 13 years old. Fifteen years is our typical turn-round replacement time.
But due to the use and frequent costs of repairs, we bumped,up the Haihai Fire
Station engine over the next apparatus,'which was the haznat vehicle for Makalei,
which doesn't go out to much calls and is actually operating quite well.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. OKINAKA: You're welcome.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Good. Okay. Any further
discussion? Good. Hearing and seeing none. Motion is on the floor to forward
Resolution 208-25 to Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 208-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 208-25 was
(Approved) carried,by the following~voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
`Absent: None.>
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: And circling back to Resolution 199-25,
please.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business.
of Business:
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Res. 199-25: AWARDS NINE STEWARDSHIP GRANTS FROM THE PUBLIC ACCESS,
OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION
MAINTENANCE FUND AS RECOMMENDED BY THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUKE 30, 2026
Authorizes the Director of Finance to provide Public Access, Open Space, and
Natural Resources Preservation Maintenance Fund Stewardship grants totaling
$838,203.08 to organizations, pursuant to Section 10-16(h) of the Hawaii County
Charter.
Reference: Comm. 316
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend,adoption of
Res. 199-25. Seconded by Ms.'Galimba.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We have our departments Joining us today.
Mr. Inaba, go ahead.
MR. INABA: Yeah, thank you. Just to start off I wanted to thank the Finance
Department for providing all of the grant information we need to see how these
awards are going to be spent: Any presentation or commentary at this time?
(Note: At this time, Finance Deputy„Director Malia Kekai came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. KEKAI: Nope. Malia Kekai, Deputy of Finance. Just here for question if
necessary.
MR. INABA Thank you_ I think it's pretty straightforward. I'll be in support. I
yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Anything further? Well done.
Thank you, Department of Finance, for being here today. It's wonderful.
Appreciate you. Okay. Motion is on the floor to forward Resolution 199-25 to
Council with a favorable recommendation. All in favor?
Vote on Res. 199-25 The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 199-25 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Last one please.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 38: AMENDS CHAPTER 19, ARTICLE 13, OF THE HAWAI`I COUNTY CODE
1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), RELATING TO REAL PROPERTY
TAX CREDITS
Establishes a Private Road Tax Credit of up to $500 to be applied towards a
homeowner's real property tax bill when the homeowner expends at
least$100 annually to maintain, repair, or improve a private roadway that is not
restricted by a gate and is managed by a road maintenance organization.
Reference: Comm.`203
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali'i-Kleinfelder
Postponed; April 15 2025
(Note: There is a motion by Council Member Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder, seconded by
Council Member Galimba, to recommend passage of Bill 38 on first reading.)
MR. INABA: At the request of the introducer,motion to postpone Bill 38 to the
June 17t' Committee meeting.
Vote on Motion Mr. Inaba moved to postpone B'i1L38 to June 17, 2025.
to Postpone: Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
(Approved) voice kite:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Chair Kdneali`i-Kleinfelder—9.
Noes: None.
`Absent: None.>
Excused: None.
CHR KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: That brings us to the end of our agenda.
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ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder
MENT: adjourned the meeting at 12:40 p.m. Thank you very much.
Approved:
Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair (Date)
Finance Committee
MK/tk
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