HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/08/19 (2024-2026)Committee on Finance
17th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
August 19, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 10:00 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-
Kleinfelder, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member
Absent & Excused: Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Heather L. Kimball, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of Business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 426: TABULAR SUMMARY OF NET FUNDED DEBT AS OF JUNE 30, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated July 22, 2025, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Chapter 47C of the Hawaii Revised Statutes.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 426. Seconded by
Mr. Hustace.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Ms. Nakagawa, Director, could you give us
an overview of what is in front of us then we can go to questions from the
Council? Thank you for being here this morning. Please introduce yourselves.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Treasurer
Chris Nakano came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
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MS. NAKAGAWA: Good morning, Council Members. Diane Nakagawa,
Finance Department.
MR. NAKANO: Chris Nakano, Treasurer.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Thank you for having us here this morning. I can do a quick
summary of our statement of funded debt. We were just here nearly two months
ago, and the reason was we are required come forward with our summary of
funded debt 30 days after the close of a bond issuance. So the timing this year
just kind of were close together, it overlapped between the issuance of our last
bond and then the closing of our fiscal year. So a lot of the numbers really didn't
change very much but I'm happy to go through that. Most of the changes that
you'll see today is from what's maturing in the coming year.
So Section 1 is just an overall, our total principle amount of County debt; so our
GO (General Obligation) bonds, our SRF (State Revolving Fund) loans, and our
revenue bonds. The revenue bonds is our CFD (Community Facilities District),
and we can go through that in a little bit. Two is the exclusion from the total. So
the GO bonds that are maturing as well as our SRF funds as well. Our revenue
bonds, the GO bonds that are reimbursable by the County and then our IDs
(Improvement District). So these two are subtracted from our total in one.
Schedule A on the next page goes through our General Obligation Bonds and the
issuance. Council Member Galimba, we did add at your request the date of
issuance here as well and the original —I'm sorry, not the date of issuance but the
original value. So thank you for that. I think that is helpful to see the original
value and what's the principle outstanding.
And then Schedule B is our SRF loans. Schedule C is our CFD; (Schedule) D is
those that are reimbursable by Water Supply, and then Schedule E is our
improvement districts. So as I mentioned, not much has changed from the last
time we were here just because of the timing of the end of the fiscal year and the
issuance of the last bond, but happy to answer any questions.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Okay. Thank you very much, Director. To
the Council? Okay. Thank you very much for the overview, Director, and for the
timeliness of the report. Seeing no further discussion. Mr. Nakano, thank you.
Seeing no further discussion, motion is on the floor to close file on
Communication 426. All in favor?
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Vote on Comm. 426
Filed
ORDER OF
RESOLUTIONS:
August 19, 2025
The motion to close file on Comm. 426 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kagiwada, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kierkiewicz
and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Resolution 266, please.
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Order of Resolutions.
Res. 266-25: AUTHORIZES INDEMNIFICATION OF A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE
COUNTY WHO IS NAMED AS AN INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANT IN THE
LAWSUIT KNOWN AS DAVID J. FREEDMAN V. COUNTY OF HAWAI`I,
ET AL. AGAINST ALL DAMAGES ASSESSED THEREIN AND MAKING
OTHER FINDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2-188 OF THE
HAWAI`I COUNTY CODE
Provides indemnification for Douglass S. Adams, former Director of the
Department of Research and Development, regarding a civil action alleging claims
against the County and Mr. Adams for employment discrimination, emotional
distress, and negligent supervision.
Reference: Comm.428
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Onishi moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 266-25. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: We have our Corporation Counsel here in
the Chambers in Kona if there are any questions. Mr. Onishi, go ahead.
MR. ONISHI: Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Corporation Counsel, you know, my
thing is I don't know how much information we should be talking about this,
right. And I know the parties and so it's kind of interesting, or there's a fine line.
And so any suggestions?
(Note: At this time, Deputy Corporation Counsel Mark Disher came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. DISHER: Deputy Corporation Counsel Mark Disher. Yes, if you know the
parties on a personal or professional level other than as a County Council
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Member, Corporation Counsel isn't here but she'd probably say you may properly
recuse yourself from any decisions regarding this.
MR. ONISHI: I mean, my relationship is basically from when I was on the
Council, so I dealt with him on certain issues that's why. And so I know the parry
and so, you know, it's kind of interesting. So I don't know like how much we can
discuss.
MR. DISHER: The case itself I'd rather not go into any details except for, you
know, discussing what's in the complaint, which was provided and part of the
record. As this is a public forum I'd be happy to go into detail if we were in
executive session. But yeah, I'm not comfortable giving my perspective of this
case in a public record.
MR. ONISHI: Okay. So I'll hold up for now and see if the other Council
Members have any discussions. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Council Member Villegas.
MS. VILLEGAS: Yeah. I concur, Council Member Onishi. In just looking
through this, immediately I think this is kind of an executive session kind of
material. But it's obviously not. This is public record. This is out there for
everybody to see. This is pages and pages of details and accusations, which
seems odd to me. I guess my question becomes, what are we voting on here? I
mean, what's being asked of us as far as acknowledging this, you know, what are
we doing?
MR. DISHER: As Douglass Adams was Director of R&D (Research and
Development) and the time and would've been responsible for any employment
decisions. This case is involving employment decisions so it's within the scope of
his employment as director and as such we should indemnify our employees for
actions like this. What the information was provided is the complaint made by
the plaintiffs. That is something that they need to be able to prove in a trial. Now
let's just say I don't believe they can and just for the Council Members
information a trial's going to be set late January. There is a hearing for motion
for summary judgement to be heard next month, September 241". So hopefully,
depending on the ruling on that, this may go nowhere. But that's where we're at.
MS. VILLEGAS: So essentially today we would be voting on, in first reading in
committees on whether or not to indemnify Doug Adams, which for everybody
watching out there means that he's covered by the County.
MR. DISHER: Pursuant to the County Code, and as we should, cover our
employees that are working within the scope of their employment. Yes.
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MS. VILLEGAS: Yeah, okay. Okay. I just want to be clear on what we're
making a decision on but also state for the record. This is a wild one. This is, I
mean, this is an interesting book. I think it's unfortunate for both parties out of
sensitivity here. Obviously the plaintiff really believes that he was harmed and
discriminated against, which based on the diversity of his lifestyle is just a
horrible thing for anybody to feel that way. And then I also feel for prior Director
Adams because this is a laundry list of accusations and claims. So I hope that this
can get resolved in the best, smoothest way possible with the least amount of
damage for everyone. I yield.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you. Good morning, Ms. Schoen.
Sorry, I'm trying to see who's there. Ms. Kagiwada's reminding I should've wore
my glasses.
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Renee Schoen came forward to
address the members of the Committee)
MS. SCHOEN: Good morning. Renee Schoen.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Good morning, Ms. Schoen.
MS. SCHOEN: I'm in Hilo just standing by to see if you all had any questions.
But, you know, it is a request pursuant to our County Code Section 2-188, and so
this is why we're appearing before you. I think in the past our office may have
not provided this body with a copy of the complaint but moving forward we
though it best to provide this body with as much information as possible. But I do
want to, you know, state on the record that this is merely the compliant. This is
allegations made by the plaintiff and, you know, our office is ready, willing, and
able to defend the County and its employees. So you only have the compliant in
front of you so you can see the allegations and those allegations are public. And
as Deputy Corporation Counsel Disher said, we are willing to go into executive
session if you want to get into more detail. But at this stage it's merely a request
to defend the former director of Research and Development.
CHR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much, Renee. Is there any
further discussion? Okay. Hearing and seeing none, motion is on the floor to
approve and forward Resolution 266-25 to Council with a favorable
recommendation. All in favor?
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Vote on Res. 266-25
(Approved)
ADJOURN-
MENT:
Approved:
Mr. Matt (Ka
Finance Cbn
MK/tk
August 19, 2025
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 266-25 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Hustace,
Inaba, Kagiwada, Onishi, Villegas,
and Chair Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 7.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Kierkiewicz
and Kimball — 2.
Excused: None.
There being no further business on our agenda today, Acting Chair Hustace
adjourned the meeting at 10:13 a.m. Thank you very much.
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