HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2025/09/02 (2024-2026)Committee on Finance
181' Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
September 2, 2025
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 1:31 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. James E. Hustace, Acting Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. James E. Hustace, Vice Chair
Ms. Michelle M. Galimba, Member
Mr. Holeka Goro Inaba, Member
Ms. Jenn Kagiwada, Member
Ms. Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms. Heather Kimball, Member
Mr. Dennis "Fresh" Onishi, Member (came in later)
Ms. Rebecca Villegas, Member (came in later)
Absent & Excused: Mr. Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Chair
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 23.18: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JUNE 16 — 30 AND
JULY 1-15, 2025
From Controller Jon Arbles, dated August 4, 2025.
Vote on Comm. 23.18: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.18. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following voice
vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Onishi, Villegas,
and Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 3.
Excused: None.
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Comm. 23.19: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: JULY 16 — 31, 2025
From Controller Jon Arbles, dated August 4, 2025.
Vote on Comm. 23.19: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 23.19. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Kagiwada and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Onishi, Villegas,
and Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 3.
Excused: None.
Comm. 73.7: MONTHLY BUDGET STATUS REPORT FOR THE MONTHS ENDED
FEBRUARY 25 AND MARCH 31, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated August 7, 2025, transmitting the
above reports pursuant to Section 6-6.3(h) of the Hawaii County Charter.
Vote on Comm. 73.7: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 73.7. Seconded
Filed by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball,
and Acting Chair Hustace — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Onishi, Villegas,
and Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 3.
Excused: None.
Comm. 441: COUNTY OF HAWAI`I INVENTORY AS OF JUNE 30, 2025
From Finance Director Diane Nakagawa, dated August 13, 2025, submitting the
above inventory report pursuant to Section 103D-1208 of the Hawaii Revised
Statutes.
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to close file on Comm. 441. Seconded by
Ms. Kierkiewicz.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any questions? Mr. Inaba.
MR. INABA: Yeah. I don't see the actual report here. Was it provided in a
booklet or a link? Got it. Okay. It seems that it's available online. Director
Nakagawa, can you just give us an overview of what the report says?
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MR. BROWN: We do have it. I think based on the length and size of the report,
we did not want to print out 9, 10, 11, 12 copies. I apologize. If any Council
Members wants a copy, we can get one for you though.
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Deputy
Director Malia Kekai came forward to address the members of the
Committee)
MS. NAKAGAWA: Good afternoon, Council Members. Diane Nakagawa,
Finance Department. Malia Kekai, Deputy Finance Director. Happy to be here
today. This is our annual inventory report that we go through each year. It is a
very lengthy report. This is all of it here in this binder, and we'd be more than
happy to share our copy as well if you want to take a look at it, instead of online.
So I'll just go quickly through the report, a summary.
The summary will have the building and structures report, land and easement,
streets and roads, materials, tools, and supplies, and then our fixed asset detail
report. So we'll go through all of our equipment and all of our inventory, and
then we'll go through each of them as far as our additions, transfers, and
disposals. So I take a look at the three-year history. There's not a lot of
significant changes in increases in most of the items except our additions. Our
additions have a fairly significant increase from the prior year; it was an increase
of $22 million. So two things happened here. One, $9 million of that was
supposed to be included in the previous year.
Also, in this last year, as you know, when we had a transition in administration, a
physical inventory was done by Property Management as required. And so they
went out and took eyes on everything. So I think what happened just also brought
into light some of the things that should have been included in the list and will be
included in the list. There are also some; $14 million of pretty large purchases.
We've talked a lot about equipment that some of the departments had. So there
are fire trucks, dozers, generators, trailers, compactors, and four ambulances
included in that increase in additions. z
So one of the things is we have some clean up that we've done. The good news is
we've put a lot of work into making this report as complete as possible because
this is now going to be transferred into the new system. So transfers, additions,
disposals, were all done on paper forms, department to department, to Finance
and back. So a lot of room for error, missed paperwork, and less accurate
reporting. So now these are all going to be done in the system; all approvals in
the system, reports generated in the system, and the best part is that because the
work was done to get it where it is today, this information is now in the new
system as of today. I'm happy to take any questions. I want to thank our
Property Management team. It is a lot of work to get through today. So I just
appreciate all their and the departments and all their help to get us an accurate a
list as we can.
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MR. INABA: Thank you, Director. Is there any; in going through this inventory,
did we find any kind of significant missing property at all?
MS. NAKAGAWA: I would say, you know, every department we go through
there's some, right, there's some lost items. And so for each of those things we
have to address in different ways. I'd say we're working really hard with a couple
of the larger departments who have a bigger inventory to make sure these things
are tracked, and different policies and procedures are put in place to minimize any
potential loss in equipment.
MR. INABA: Great. Thank you for that overview. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Mr. Inaba. Ms. Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Finance Director, Deputy,
for being here. I'm glad to know that an even more thorough job was done to
make sure all of our assets are listed here. How long does it actually take to go
through this inventory list on an annual basis? Because it sounds like you're
deploying Property Management out into the field to document that things are
there or if they've been transferred noting that. How long does that take?
MS. NAKAGAWA: So inventory is a year -long process. What we were pushing
to do is work with the departments to get these additions and transfers and
disposals done throughout the year. What gets really difficult is when all of this
happens at the end of the year. And so the team is struggling to do a whole bunch
of additions and disposals and transfers at the end of the year. So we're pushing
really hard with the departments to get it done and hopefully within the system it
makes it a lot easier to do. And so we're going to be kind of monitoring that more
closely and really pushing so that the work is spread throughout the year. But
when a department head or agency head leaves, that's also another time when we
do a full inventory as well. So on transition years it is a bit more intensive.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Got it. And I don't have the inventory list in front of me,
but can you just maybe walk me through how things are coded? So like if there's
a laptop that is supposed to be in a particular room; is it noted to be in that room
or that the department or division has that particular laptop? I'm just trying to
understand how we are coding the assets, so you know where to look.
MS. KEKAI: So right now how the list you have now is coded is it just tells you
like which department it is at. But with the new system it will actually have a
location. So our program managers work very hard to collect all the locations
from all the different departments, so we have to mahalo them because they took
the extra effort to basically locate each one and then put in the addresses. So
going forward we will have location.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's fantastic. And then on the inventory list we're
noting when the item was acquired and then when it was transferred. Does it also
note its condition, like good, fair, poor?
MS. KEKAI: It does not. It'll show you when it was purchased and the cost and
stuff, but it doesn't say what condition it was in.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Like if there was any maintenance done, just because I'm
thinking about the life cycle of each of our assets and when we build our budget,
making sure that we are keeping that in mind so that we can have the asset in
good working condition for as long as possible.
MS. KEKAI: Yeah. I think for our fixed assets moving forward there will be that
sort of useful life calculation and depreciation live in the system. We didn't have
that before; we will have that now. For equipment I think it's a little bit harder. I
think we're still kind of working out the kinks of how we track, you know, those
things that aren't like vehicles and stuff, like what is the use for life of those
things. So I think as the years go on, we'll get better and better at like, this is how
long this should last us, and this is how we should budget it. But currently it's not
on the list.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Great to know that we are working towards getting there.
Director, one more time with the numbers. So certain items were missing from
previous year's list, like various apparatus?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes. They were not included in the additions for that year.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: You said like $14 million worth.
MS. NAKAGAWA: $9 million.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: What was the $14 million?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Those were the large purchases; increase in purchases like
fire trucks.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: And then the question that Council Member Inaba had
about losses. So things that were on a previous list, no longer there, what was that
total?
MS. NAKAGAWA: I don't have that in front of us. That's not included in here.
But we can get it.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: If you can just send an email?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I'm curious.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure. Yeah.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Great. And then any significant changes to the SOPS
(Standard Operating Procedure)? Because you kind of hinted at it earlier but I'm
curious to know specifically what is now put into place so that we can ensure that
what we count on this year is there next year.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Sure. So for one of the departments, in looking at the
previous year and last year's list of missing items, kind of worked very closely
with that department head on what is happening. If it's turnover, if those
employees have left, then what is the protocol for collecting items, equipment,
uniform, tools, things like that. And also more on the process and procedure for
when pieces of tools or equipment are used between different employees or
transferred between areas, how is that tracked more closely. So a little bit
different discussions between various departments because they operate a lot
differently. But we have really worked to have those discussions with the
departments that we are seeing more issues with.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Very insightful. But is sounds like despite all of that,
there's kind of a clear working relationship with making sure that at the end of the
day we can track where that asset is going.
MS. NAKAGAWA: Absolutely. Yes. We are all working together to get this,
you know, as accurate as we can and also to make sure that all of our assets are
tracked.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Thank you so much for being here. I just want to
acknowledge that this takes so much work. So thank you, Property Management,
all the departments. I'm glad to know that this process is going to be digitized. I
think it'll make it so much easier going forward to kind of track where everything
is going. Thank you. Chair, I yield.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member
Kimball.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah. Just a couple of quick questions. This list only includes
things that are wholly owned by the County, not anything that we lease.
MS. KEKAI: You're correct.
MS. KIMBALL: Do we have a similar list for vehicles; they're not included in
here, right?
MS. KEKAI: They are included as equipment.
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MS. KIMBALL: They are. I missed that. Curious also about this, I see that
there's the purchase cost, the book value, the depreciation, which might kind of
talk to, speak to the quality of any given thing. You know, just having it come up
about our solar panels not working and I think that there is going to be a need to
track the current functional status of things. So is that included in the new system
that there will be some sort of, like Council Member Kierkiewicz said, fair?
MS. KEKAI: I think that's a multi -faceted question and I think that County has
multiple ways of tracking it, right? Like DPW (Department of Public Works) has
their new facilities manager, they should be tracking kind of the fixed assets. We
till have a CIP (Capital Improvement Projects) manager, hopefully in the near
future and that person will be tracking projects and assets as they're made. And
then the system itself is kind of tracking useful life in its own way. So I think
we'll have to figure out how to like combine that data to get the full picture and
hopefully it'll result in a really cool dashboard, something to that effect. But
yeah, I don't think just one thing right now captures all of that.
MS. KDABALL: Okay. Is there, like back to the vehicles and now I see that I
didn't download all 1,000 pages. My download must've frozen at some point and
that's why I don't see the vehicles. Is there an effort to sort of consolidate and
organize our pool? I did speak to Finance Director a little bit about this. But I'm
curious what you folks are thinking going forward about the vehicle access of the
County and how we might better utilize what we have and not have to purchase or
lease so many more vehicles?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes. That has been a very active discussion internally as
well. Just recently had a conversation with our Acting Public Works Director
about running some reports on those vehicles that haven't been utilized in a while,
haven't filled their gas in a while, haven't moved in a while. So that is the next
step there. But definitely looking at. I know we've talked in the past about being
able to pool our vehicles, so that's also probably the next step after cleaning them
up and making sure that the vehicles that we have sitting out in the lot are
working and usable, and the next step would be to look at how we can share those
vehicles. That probably also be a discussion at our budget review as well. When
we get a lot of requests for new vehicles, even lately, we're really directing
departments to share when they can because there are vehicles that do sit when
they are unused.
MS. KIMBALL: I just bring it up in context just so folks are aware. Riley
(Saito), when he was still at R&D (Research and Development) had a whole plan
about consolidating usage of the fleet and allowing us to transition to EVs
(Electric Vehicles) and having pulled electric charging resources. And the plan
had been there ever since I can recall but I never saw us making steps towards that
and we still do have our technical mandate to transition. So I want to see that. If
not, that plan some plan moving forward to minimize the number of vehicles we
need and hopefully encourage us to transition. Thanks.
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ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Council Member
Onishi.
MR. ONISHI: Thank you, Chair. First, I want to thank Public Work and Acting
Director Niel Azevedo on some of the cars that are being removed in the parking
lot at Aupuni. I see now there's opening stalls there, which is great. And
hopefully we can have our employees taking those stalls, right. But I think there's
a couple more vehicles that that could be removed. And as Ms. Kimball had
mentioned during budget time, I've been always mentioning those vehicles. But
then one problem was about the auction, right. But now we can move forward on
that?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes. You know, we do admit that the auction should've
happened this past year. It is on our priority now. It's just due to our resources
and staffing, but we are working on getting some additional help to get that done
hopefully in the next few months.
MR. ONISHI: Great. Good to hear. Thank you. And so is that the list of
everything in our County inventory?
MS. NAKAGAWA: This is the list.
MR. ONISHI: Wow. Okay.
MS. NAKAGAWA: If you want to borrow it for your reading, bedtime reading.
MR. ONISHI: You know, I worked in the Recreation Division, right, with Parks
and Recreation. I mean, we did at our facilities have an inventory list. But even
that would be outdated, and we would have things on the list that was no longer
there. We would check the inventory, but it would still stay on, and they wouldn't
remove it for some reason, right. And so it's good to hear that you folks are
moving forward and getting it more, I guess, up to date. So thank you very much.
MS. NAKAGAWA: The paper -based manual process does scream a lot for
missing forms and things like that. So we did see and hear a lot of why is it still
on the list or why is it not on the list. Electronically the system should improve
that significantly.
MR. ONISHI: Great. And just to say, I mean, I've been with the State too, and
the State is just as bad. So we shouldn't feel too bad for Hawaii County. Okay.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other questions?
Just one question. Director, does this list include items that have been donated to
the County and are they coded differently, if that makes sense?
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MS. NAKAGAWA: I believe so. And I don't think they're coded as donations,
but they do include any item that is now County -owned.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Okay. Okay. And then they would just be, those
donated things are just coded with their department that they've been kind of
granted to?
MS. NAKAGAWA: Yes.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Any other
discussions? Alright.
MS. KEKAI: Sorry, Chair. Could I just mention one more thing?
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Please.
MS. KEKAI: As you all mentioned, this is huge feat to get done on time and
especially when you're trying to get everything right. So I just want to say thank
you to DPW, Parks and Recreation, and the Clerk's Office, actually. They lent us
people, you know, to help us get this done. So without them we would never had
gotten it done. So we just want to send our appreciation to them, proving flexible.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you for that sentiment, Deputy. I appreciate
that. All those in favor of filing Communication 441, please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 441: The motion to close file on Comm. 441 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i -Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Next item.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
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Res. 284-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER A MULTI -YEAR AGREEMENT FOR ETHERNET COMPUTER
NETWORK SERVICES TO BE USED BY THE OFFICE OF THE
PROSECUTING ATTORNEY
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a three-year agreement with an estimated cost
of $49,200 per year for wide area network services that would allow the
department to network and share data and resources between its four locations.
Reference: Comm.455
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 284-25.
Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any discussion? I did have one question is no one
else has any. Let's see, really for the Office of the Prosecuting Attorney (OPA).
Is a rep here? Mr. Nagata. So it's definitely for your office but it has that IT
(Information Technology) component. I'm just curious if you could give us
details on this wide area network versus our other systems we have at the County,
what is the difference, and yeah, just a little bit of insight into this? Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Prosecuting Attorney's Business Manager Grant
Nagata came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. NAGATA: Okay. Good afternoon. I'm Grant Nagata, Business
Administrator for the Prosecutor's Office. So for our office, we operate a little bit
different from the other departments. We have our own internal IT staff. We
have our own servers, networking, and whatnot. And the reason for that is just
because of the type of data that we store on our servers; the criminal history, you
know, all that kinds of stuff, videos, evidence, documents, and that kind of thing.
So we have to abide by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigations) standard for
securing all of these types of data that we have.
So for this service, our networking service, it's just to continue the agreement that
we have, just to extend. We have had this agreement in place for a while so we're
just extending another three years, and it allows our four locations to include our
Hilo, Kona, Waimea, and we also have a small workroom office in the Kona
Judiciary Building, where our attorneys, say if they're in court all day they can go
into that office and access all the data files and whatnot. So this service allows all
four sites to be able to communicate with each other, all the printer servers. So if
you store data on one site, wherever you are in our office, you'd be able to access
that.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Mr. Nagata. Question, Ms. Kierkiewicz?
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Just quickly for your education. OPA
and Police Department have their own IT and servers because of the
confidentiality piece that Mr. Nagata describes. Grant, I want to commend you.
The Whereas clause is very clear on what this is going to cost us on a monthly
basis and the totality for the multi -year agreement, so I really appreciate that. Has
there been a cost increase over time with this particular service that you're able to
share with us?
MR. NAGATA: Okay. That's actually a really good question. So when we got
the quote for these next three years, it's actually a little bit less than what I was
expecting. So in our budget we have this service for our four locations. The total
in our budget is $16,200; and per site with this quote is $12,300. So there's a
little bit of saving this contract period. I'm not too sure why there was a drop in
the price, but it worked out good.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So no changes in service.
MR. NAGATA: Yeah, no change.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. Well that's fantastic. It's nice to save here and
there. In full support of the resolution. Thanks for being here.
MR. NAGATA: Thank you.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other questions?
All those in favor of forwarding Resolution 284-25 to Council with a favorable
recommendation please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 284-25: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 284-25 was
A roved carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
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Res. 285-25: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF LATER FISCAL YEARS TO
ENTER A MULTI -YEAR AGREEMENT FOR INTERNET TELEPHONE
SERVICES TO BE USED BY THE OFFICE OF THE PROSECUTING
ATTORNEY
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year agreement with an estimated cost
of $260 per year for Voice -over -Internet -Protocol phone service at the office's
workroom located in the Kona Judiciary Complex.
Reference: Comm.456
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Res. 285-25: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend adoption of Res. 285-25.
(Approved) Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 76: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO.25-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING JUNE 30, 2026
Appropriates revenues in the Hawaii Community Foundation — Financial
Empowerment Services (Private) account ($125,000); and appropriates the same to
the Hawaii Community Foundation — Financial Empowerment Services — Program
account. Funds would be used to provide no -cost financial and homeownership
counseling through a certified U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development counseling service provider.
Reference: Comm.442
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 76.
Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any discussion? Ms. Kierkiewicz, you have a
question to start us off?
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you. Is there anyone from Housing here? There
she is. Hey, Administrator Costa. Great to see you. Okay. So we have been
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supporting this program for a number of years. I think this came out of the
pandemic. This was one of Sharon Hirota's brainchild. I was just wondering if
you could maybe expand upon the program, the reach that it's had over the few
years we've been supporting it and if there have been any changes based on
resident needs?
(Note: At this time, Housing Administrator Kehaulani Costa came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. COSTA: Housing Administrator Kehau Costa. We can provide you with
more information on the program. We partner with Hawaiian Community Assets
(HCA). They are a HUD (Housing and Urban Development) certified counseling
homebuyer program. We use the program. It's free and it's available to the
community; it's available to County employees, budgeting, credit score
improvements. We use it primarily in our Section 8 program in our family self-
sufficiency program where we are working on action plans with our Section 8
participants to build self-sufficiency so that they're moving off of Section 8 and
rent subsidies. But I can give you, in an email, stats on how many families are
using this service.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: When you have a chance it would be great to just see the
impact. I, you know, completely trust all of the work that is happening with
Hawaiian Community Assets. They do so much to just empower local families so
that they're making the best decisions to set themselves up for homeownership.
And it sounds like the County wants to continue this partnership with HCA. So
just grateful for the grant funds that are being provided from Hawaii Community
Foundation to continue the program.
MS. COSTA: Yes. Thank you.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thanks for being here.
MS. COSTA: Thank you.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I yield.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other questions
with Administrator here? Thank you, Administrator.
MS. COSTA: Thank you.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: All those in favor of forwarding Bill 76 to Council
with a favorable recommendation, please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 76:
(Approved)
Bill 77:
September 2, 2025
The motion to recommend passage of Bill 76 was carried
by the following voice vote:
Ayes:
Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes:
None.
Absent:
Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused:
None.
AMENDS ORDINANCE NO.25-45, AS AMENDED, THE OPERATING
BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ING JUNE 30.2026
Increases revenues in the Fund Balance from Previous Year account ($350,000);
and appropriates the same to the Kulaimano Operating Maintenance account.
Funds would be used for the Kulaimano Elderly Housing Project for operating and
maintenance activities.
Reference: Comm.443
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Vote on Bill 77: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 77.
(Approved) Seconded by Ms. Galimba and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
Bill 78: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO.25-46, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2025, TO JUNE 30, 2026
Adds the Finance Land/Facility Acquisitions Project ($1,150,000) and the
Land/Facility Acquisitions — Federal Project ($850,000) to the Capital Budget.
Funds for these projects shall be provided from General Obligation Bonds, Capital
Projects Fund — Fund Balance and/or other Sources $1,150,0000) and Federal
Grants Receivable ($850,000), to acquire land for legally mandated projects and/or
County Agency needs.
Reference: Comm.457
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
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Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 78.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any discussion? Council Member Galimba, please.
MS. GAL]MBA: Thank you. Can I just get a little more detail on this?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Diane Nakagawa and Deputy
Director Malia Kekai came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MS. KEKAI: Malia Kekai, Deputy Finance Director. Basically, I think you guys
know. We have a space study at this point that's been going on for the last year.
It's near its conclusion. It probably will be wrapping up around February. And
just with the anticipation of if we have space needs and that kind of stuff, we
realized that we don't have an appropriation. If we did need to go out and get
space, I think the other thing that we've been looking at a lot is now that I've been
looking at the property management stuff, it's just how much storage space the
County needs. So that was the other thing that kind of came to mind was maybe
we need to buy land to build our own storage facilities instead of paying all these
other landowner or landlords I should say. So those were the big considerations
of just like, "Hey, if we needed to act on this, we don't have anything to act on at
this point." So that's basically what brought us to the table.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you. Do you have an idea of how much we are spending
on space for storage right now?
MS. KEKAI: Storage space alone, I'd have to go look at the numbers. I think the
entire budget for all rentals across the County is a little over $2 million. So
including office space and storage and everything, yeah.
MS. GALRWBA: Okay. Thanks very much.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other questions?
Okay. Seeing none. All those in favor of forwarding Bill 78 to Council, please
say "aye."
Vote on Bill 78: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 78 was carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
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Bill 79: AMENDS ORDINANCE NO.25-46, AS AMENDED, RELATING TO PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
JULY 1, 2025, TO JUNE 30, 2026
Adds the Environmental Management Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant R-1
Upgrade Project ($31,000,000) to the Capital Budget. Funds for this project shall
be provided from General Obligation Bonds, Capital Projects Fund — Fund
Balance and/or other Sources, to comply with a recent lawsuit settlement which
requires the County to upgrade the Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant to
produce R-1 quality water for re -use.
Reference: Comm.458
Intr. by: Council Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Inaba moved to recommend passage of Bill 79.
Seconded by Ms. Galimba.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Any discussion? Council Member Kimball, please
start us off.
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah, if we can have DPW —
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: We have our DEM (Department of Environmental
Management) team here.
MS. KIMBALL: DEM. Sorry. DEM. Sorry, it's not even that late in the day.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: If you could join us at the front here, please?
MS. KIMBALL: Yeah. Thank you. So if I could just have you go over what this
$31 million specifically covers with respect to the R-1 and where we are within
the process of doing this upgrade. Specifically have we changed our approach to
the technological approach to getting to R-1 from what was presented under the
previous administration? They said that you'd know. I'm recalling a
conversation about the R-1 for reuse being more around the order of $60 million.
So I'm wondering, is this just a portion of that original project or have we
changed our technological approach to something more cost effective?
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: If you could just push the green button and then
introduce yourself? Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Acting Wastewater Division Chief Chris Laude came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. LAUDE: Chris Laude, Acting Wastewater Division Chief. There're some
slight changes in technology from what was previously proposed. Also, the
technology we're proposing is modular and expandable. So for this to satisfy the
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requirements that we have we're going to phase this. So the first phase would
handle about 1.4 million gallons a day and then we had to capacity upgrade that to
the full 2.8 million gallons a day in the future.
MS. KIlVIBALL: So are we no longer using the sand filter?
MR. LAUDE: We are no longer using the sand filter.
MS. KIlVIBALL: Okay.
MR. LAUDE: So the sand filter is problematic in that it's, how can I describe it?
It's labor intensive and the size is enormous. I know we got a free sand filter, but
that filter can handle maybe 100,000 gallons a day. So to ramp that up to the size
we need would have been an enormous effort. So we change slightly in that
we're going to have membrane bioreactors going to ultraviolet disinfection.
Ultraviolet disinfection has less issues with the chlorinated byproducts when you
use chlorine. So it'll facilitate reuse of the water.
MS. KD BALL: Thank you for that clarification. So the $31 million is just to
treat to the R-1 and doesn't cover the distribution piece of that R-1?
MR. LAUDE: Correct.
MS. KIlVMALL: Okay. And so when, in this case with this new approach, where
does the R-1 water go after the treatment; is it going into the injection well or
what's happening to it after the treatment?
MR. LAUDE: The next phase of the work would be to do a feasibility study for
reuse. While we're doing that, we're going to reuse the water to irrigate around
the site; we're going to use it to clean up. The wastewater treatment plant has six
pods, so five of them were in use. So we're going to use the R-1 water to clean
up for the pond so that there is no more sludge in the bottom and they just contain
clean R-1 water so that the birds have better habitat to live in.
MS. KM4BALL: So for the capacity per day of R-1 being produced that'll be
enough to sustain, either use or store it?
MR. LAUDE: Yes. And we'll shoot for at least 1.4 million gallons a day. The
timeframe for this is really compressed.
MS. KIM BALL: Right.
MR. LAUDE: So staff worked really hard to come up with a feasible technology
to get us to R-1 and quickly. And we tried to produce inceptual design that
contractors here are familiar with so we can hopefully get the construction done
on budget and on time.
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MS. KIMBALL: Great. So the R-1 treatment is not dependent on the outcome of
the feasibility study for any sort of distribution offsite?
MR. LAUDS: Correct.
MS. KIMBALL: It will proceed regardless of that.
MR. LAUDE: It will proceed regardless.
MS. KEYMALL: Okay. Okay.
MR. LAUDE: And we do have plans to extend a distribution system offsite. But
realistically the further away you go with the R-1 pipeline or if you have to truck
it somewhere, that increases the cost. So that's something we're cognizant of.
MS. K MBALL: So timeline wise, we approve this now, moves to Council,
approved there; then going out to bid for the work?
MR. LAUDE: The work is currently out for bid.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. It's currently out for bid.
MR. LAUDE: It was published Friday.
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. And when does the bid close; do you know? Three
months?
MR. LAUDE: December; I think December l"
MS. KIMBALL: Okay. Okay. So I asked specifically about the dates and maybe
I can just get a nod from Corporation Counsel in the back. Are we still on target
to meet our obligations with respect to the settlement agreement? Okay. Perfect.
Thank you. For the record, she gave it the thumbs up. That was my concern.
Alright. Thank you for that. I appreciate getting an update on the status of this
project. I'm supportive of the bill. Thank you.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: Thank you, Council Member. Any other
discussions or questions while we have DEM here? Okay. All those in favor of
forwarding Bill 79 to Council with a favorable recommendation, please say "aye."
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Vote on Bill 79: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 79 was carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Galimba, Inaba,
Kagiwada, Kierkiewicz, Kimball, Onishi,
Villegas, and Acting Chair Hustace — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Excused: None.
ACTING CHR. HUSTACE: With that being the last item on our agenda, we are
adjourned.
ADJOURN- There being no further business on our agenda today, Acting Chair Hustace
MENT: adjourned the meeting at 2:14 p.m. Thank you very much.
Approved:
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Mr. Matt X eali`i-Kleinfeld , Chair (Date)
Finance Co tee
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