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Home My WebLink AboutCOM 0334.026 2024-2026From: Hugh Ono Sent: Friday, August 29, 2025 3:06 PM To: Council Testimony; Alameda, Christian (Kimo); Bill Brilhante; Azevedo, Neil Subject: BILL # 64 - PE Requirement for DPW Director Attachments: PE DPW FFA HY0250813.xlsx REQUEST TO PROVIDE THIS TO ALL OF OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS... RE: THE ATTACHED FORCE FIELD ANALYSIS IS THE JOINT WORK OF A COMMITTEE OF ENGINEERS WITH IN THE COUNTY OF HAWAII... This Excel Sheet provides item subjects and the PROs and CONs of each discussion item. Request is to ask each of you to review and analyze this sheet as this could provide a meaningful explanation of WHY THE PE REQUIREMENT... can make a big SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OUTCOMES. Respectfully submitted, Committee on Bitl No. 64 Comm. ZW Ref. To: Ref. Date .� E - 2 BILL NO 64 - PE needed or NONE for CoH PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FORCE FIELD ANALYSIS allows pros and cons on this BILL PREPARED: AUGUST 23, 2025 P.E.s with HAWAII REGISTRATION HAWAII PE's NATIONWIDE = 7,665 COUNTY OF HAWAII = 132 OBJECTIVE: FOR THE HAWAII COUNTY COUNCIL TO SEE FACTORS THAT AFFECT WHETHER OR NOT THE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLICS WORKS SHOULD HAVE OR NOT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSE PE DECISION IGNORED = BAD HAPPPENINGS TO INCLUDE DISASTER FORCE FIELD ANALYSIS is PROS AND CONS OF ISSUES RELATED TO: BILL# 64 - REQUIRING A PE VS NONE AS THE DPW DIRECTOR SUPPORT OF ITEMS DISCUSSED: DISCUSSION ITEM: NEGATIVE DISCUSSION BELOW EXPLANATIONS: SUPPORT OF ITEM? NON-SUPPORT OF ITEM EXPLANATIONS: Common cultural History shows that KAHUNA DATES BACK TO Difficult to dispute knowledge Oversight reached such KAHUNA HAWAIIAN Hawaiian Culture and NA Engineering Decisions CULTURE History Supported by PE National Organizations as well as local "Engineering education, oath, Seeking to by pass Primarily to assure Public Safety and strict code of ethics WHY A PE? AS DPW DIR Engineering Credibility and Managements goal foremost support this type of job" Design Standards to meet deadlines No assurances that the Public is given the best Yes... if they work closely with safety factors that Engineers their PE's NON PE AS DPW DIR PASSIVE ON THIS NA apply. "Popular in the political arena as managers want Management decisions are MANAGEMENT VS Disasfailure. Examples of which to promise the public goal oriented toward delivery ENGINEERING failure. In many cases as anyPoscases s are listed below. delivery without delays" of a product expediently. DECISIONS shown below. DPW DIR needs to hold SAFETY, HEALTH & WELFARE PE Decisions vs Management ENGINEERING VS MANAGEMENT DECISION MOSTLY FOR OF OUR CITIZENS ABOVE clearly in favor of the Public's POPULAR POLITCAL EXPEDIENCY. safety and health without MANAGEMENT ARE GOAL & SCHEDULE ACCEPTANCE CASES BELOW WILL prejudice. DECISIONS ORIENTED REASONS SUPPORT THIS POSITION Done in other CAN WORK WELL IN BILL #64 ALLOW PE Appointment to APPLY 3 YEAR SUNSET THIS CAN WORK jurisdictions to address current needs. TO THIS BILL address current issues. DPW DIR HUGH ONO ALII DRIVE DIRECTION WAS A KONA BUSINESS WELL RECEIVED DECIDED TO PROCEED ASA TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDIES COMMUNITY REQUEST; ATTEMPT TO SOLVE TRIAL as there was no PREDICTED THIS. CHANGE TO INCREASE ALSO A COH PRIORITY TO A KAILUA PARKING Safety and Health Risk PARKING SOLVE. PROBLEM Error discovered 73 seconds DISASTER WAS THE CHALLENGER after liftoff. Predicted that PREVENTABLE: Morton DISASTER WAS THE the 0 ring seals will not Thiokol's VP, a PE MOST DRAMATIC Astronaut Lives were lost survive low temperatures at refused to sign off on EXAMPLE ... MAKE SURE to include Hawaii's Ellison Very sad nationally. that time this Launch, but was YOU REVIEW THIS ONE. Onizuka over -ruled by his boss who did sign off. Safety Critieria neglected; Management decision allowed a toxic gas leak that 2000 DEATHS AVOIDABLE BHOPAL GAS LEAK 2000 Died None was deadly. Location of Fuel tank questioned by PEs; Location of the Fuel tanks questioned TANKS NOTABLE TO CONTAIN FORD PINTO FUEL TANK Fatalities and Recall of by PE's FUEL ISSUE Pintos by Ford Motor Co. None Recall and cause of accidents and fatalities Management overruled TYPHOON NINA CAUSED Dam collapses & Disasster Engineering an this one. COLLAPES OF NUMEROUS BANQIAO DAM FAILURE resulted None DAMS Management overule resulted in birth defects, MAJOR DISASTER CAUSING LOVE CANAL Cancer, Birth defects None cancer, & other disorders HEALTH ISSUES Result Soil strength underestimated ... for soil WAS AN OVERRIDE OF A PEs State and local politics One of the largest NEW ORLEANS LEVEE pressure and wind loads; DECISION; HURRIANE KATRINA over ruled Engineering disasters in US Orleans continual sinking not DISCOVERY SYSTEM Judgement History. taken into consideration Location of Fuel tank On 12/3/84 40 tons of Methly questioned by PEs Isocyanate Gas Leak; Killed UNION CARBIDE TOXIC Catastrophic unnecessary Recall and cause of accidents 2259 persons; victim count = GAS LEAK deaths and disaster None and fatalities 3787 w/ 574,366 injured. April 26, 1986, the #4 Cold War Politics allowed reactor exploded; 30 CHERNOBYL NUCLEAR Expediency no substitute this to proceed. died thereafter; 350,000 POWER PLANT for early delivery Catastrophic Event evacuated. Great, illustrates the OXYGEN TANK EXPLOSION; importance of Engineering ASTRONAUTS FORCED TO APOLLO 13 SPACE Missions are risky on their NA intervention in a crisis. ENTER LUNAR MODULE MISSION own The actual pedestrian live load exceeded Engineering 114 KILLED WHEN WALKWAY HYATT REGENCY Structural Design flawed. Unnecessry deaths Design Standard per mgt. COLLAPSED; 2001NJURED WALKWAY COLLAPSE resulted.