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CONSTANCE R. KIRIU DAVID KIMO FRANKEL
County Clerk _ ,:-l Legislative Auditor
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Couuty of Hafv~t `Y
Office of the Couuty Clerk
25 Aupuni Street, Suite 209
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Telephone: (808) 961-8255 Facsimile: (808) 961-8912
December 7, 2004
TO: Lincoln S.T. Ashida, Corporation Counsel
FROM: Constance R. Kiriu, County CIerI~L~
RE: Videoconferencing
WRK 04-8885
Thank you for your memorandum dated December 2, 2004, responding to the Legislative Auditor's Office request
for an opinion about the necessity of terminating a Council meeting if al] council members are in one location when
both audio and video communication cannot be maintained (Section 92-3.5(c), Hawaii Revised Statutes).
We apologize for the confusion generated by our memorandum. This attempts to clarify your concerns.
1. Reference to County Clerk Alan Konishi's suggestion that the Fair Information Practices Act should
be reviewed and the Office of Information Practices consulted occurred in a conversation he had
with Legislative Assistant Skip Be[hea. Since you already conferred with the Director of Office of
Information Practices Leslie Kondo, the suggestion is moot.
2. Admittedly, the memo from County Clerk AI Konishi attached to our request did not speak directly
to our question. We have not found a subsequent memo that reached a conclusion on this matter.
The Clerk's statement may have been reported in one of the newspapers.
In spite of this mix-up, you have concluded that as long as all Council Members are in one videoconference location,
the meetine does not have to be terminated if the audio or video cannot be maintained.
Notices and agendas will include information that (1) testimony may be presented by videoconference system a[ the
selected location(s); (2) the meeting may be viewed live at the selected location(s); (3) should the audio or video
connection fail at any time during the meeting, the meeting will continue; and (4) written testimony should be
submitted prior to the meeting to assure the Council has received the substance of the testimony.
Until videoconferencing is available in a laree meeting room in Kona, we are unable to provide reciprocal services
from Kona to the Hilo Council Room.
We would appreciate any further questions or comments you may have. Please feel free to contact me at Ext 8271.
cc: Council Members (w/att)
Legislative Assistant Skip Bethea 4~
Council Services Supervisor Glynis Yamada (w/atQ Comm. No. .7
Executive Assistant Alfred Robello (w/att) Ref. To:
Legislative Auditor David Kimo Frankel (w/att) Ref. Uate o [UUq
Hawaii County is an Equal Opportunity Provider and Employer
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MEMORANDUM
TO: CONSTANCE KIRIU
Legislative Auditor
FROM: LINCOLN S. T. ASHIDA ~JU~
Corporation Counsel
RE: Videoconferencing
Our Entry No: WRK 04-8885
You have asked our office to opine on the County Clerk's thoughts
concerning the propriety of videoconferencing for Hawaii County Council
meetings.
Specifically, your request reads as follows:
The County Clerk has concluded that the Council cannot guarantee that
the current videoconference system will work every time. The Clerk
believes that unless the State law is changed, failure of the
videoconference system would necessitate termination of a Council
meeting and important actions could be irreparably frustrated. Attached
for your review is a memo from AI Konishi, County Clerk, dated
September 14, 2004. The Clerk suggests reviewing the Fair Information
Practices Act and consulting with the State Office of Information Practices.
Therefore, the question is as follows:
Does Section 92-3.5, HRS, prevent the Council from continuing business
if all the "board" members (in this case the Council) are present atone
videoconference location and the videoconference system becomes
inoperable?
If the meeting can continue, we would like to amend the Council's new
Rules to include videoconferencing procedures. Thank you very much for
your expeditious response.
Hawaii County is an Equal Opportunity Employer and Provider
A copy of your request is attached hereto.
At the onset, your reference to the "Fair Information Practices Act" may be
in error. We believe you mean the Uniform Information Practices Act as
contained in Chapter 92F of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, as amended
(hereinafter "HRS"). Please let us know if we are in error.
A copy of County Clerk AI Konishi's memorandum dated September 14,
2001, which was attached to your original request, is also appended hereto. We
are not certain whether there have been subsequent or previous memoranda
from the County Clerk concerning this issue, or if there have been any
discussions with him that are contemplated in your request to us. Thus, our
analysis and response is limited to the present written information provided us by
your office.
We are concerned that you have either (1) sent us the wrong
memorandum from the County Clerk, or (2) you have misread the content of Mr.
Konishi's September 14, 2001, memorandum. In your request to our office, you
state: "The Clerk believes that unless the State law is changed, failure of the
videoconference system would necessitate termination of a Council meeting and
important actions could be irreparably frustrated. Attached for your review is a
memo from AI Konishi, County Clerk, dated September 14, 2004. The Clerk
suggests reviewing the Fair Information Practices Act and consulting with the
State Office of Information Practices."
Mr. Konishi's memorandum does not mention the need to change State
law. Nor does Mr. Konishi's memorandum conclude that system failure would
"necessitate termination" of a meeting (in fact, Mr. Konishi's memorandum
suggests the meeting should continue, despite system failure). Finally, Mr.
Konishi's memorandum does not mention reviewing our State public records law
(I am not sure why that would be necessary), nor consulting with the Office of
Information Practices.
Mr. Konishi's memorandum appears to be deliberative in nature. He
apparently attempts to share his thoughts with the Council members, in order to
initiate discussion and receive feedback on this issue. It does not contain any of
the conclusions you have referred to above.
If there is a subsequent memorandum from Mr. Konishi reciting the
conclusions averred to above, please provide it to me, so we may properly
address these concerns.
You ask the following legal question: "Does Section 92-3.5, HRS, prevent
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the Council from continuing business if all the 'board' members (in this case the
Council) are present at one videoconference location and the videoconference
system becomes inoperable?"
The short answer to this question is "no." HRS Section 92-3.5(c) states as
follows:
A meeting held by videoconference shall be terminated if both audio and
video communication cannot be maintained with all locations where the
meeting is being held, even if a quorum of the board is physically present
in one location.
We have confirmed with Leslie Kondo, Director of the State of Hawaii
Office of Information Practices, that this section contemplates terminating a
meeting where some of the board members are in one location, and some (or
one) board member(s) are in another. However, if all board members are in one
location, and there has been either a video or audio system failure, the meeting
may nonetheless continue. This is consistent with Mr. Konishi's statement in his
memorandum, that "I suggest that if for any reason (equipment or operator
problems) a videoconference is interrupted, the meeting should continue as
scheduled."
The Office of Information Practices has repeatedly stated that Hawai'i's
Sunshine Law provides a "base minimum" of what is required in our State to
ensure and encourage public participation in government process. Each County
(or agency, board or commission) is empowered to enlarge the rights of the
public, as they see fit. This is a policy decision which belongs to the individual
agency, board or commission, so long as this policy does not conflict with the
State Sunshine Law, Hawaii County Charter, or other superior law.
Again, we are concerned that we have not been provided all memoranda
or information concerning decisions or opinions rendered by the County Clerk, as
statements attributed by you to Mr. Konishi do not appear in the September 14,
2001, memorandum you provided us and reference. We appreciate the Council
is desirous of including these videoconferencing procedures in their new rules, so
we will respond as soon as we are provided the additional information. Please e-
mail this information to Lashida(a~co.hawaii.hi.us.
Thank you.
Encls.
S: Departments/Leg Auditor/LSA Misc. Corresp./Memo re videoconferencing 12-2-04/LSAmr
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OFI=ICE OF THE CORPORAL ~JN COUNSEL
Inter-Departmental Work Request Form
DATE: November 26, 2004
TO: OFFICE OF THE CORPORATION COUNSEL
ATTN: Lincoln Ashida
ame o orney assigne to your epartmen
FROM: Connie Kiriu Telephone No.: x8388
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Legislative Auditor E-mail: ckiriu@co.hawaii.hi.us
apartment
CONTACT Telephone No.: x8580
PERSON: Skip Bethea E-mail: sbethea@co.hawaii.hi.us
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TYPE OF WORK REQUESTED:
® Opinion '"Optional: ff applicable, please indicate a specific deadline
? Draft for Corp. Counsel response: 12/3104
? Review and Comment
? Other
BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WORK NEEDED:
The County Clerk has concluded that the Council cannot guarantee that the current
videoconference system will work every time. The Clerk believes that unless the State law
is changed, failure of the videoconference system would necessitate termination of a
Council meeting and Important actions could be irreparably frustrated. Attached for your
review is a memo from AI Konishi, County Clerk, dated September 14, 2004. The Clerk
suggests reviewing the Fair Information Practices Act and consulting with the State Office
of Information Practices. Therefore, the question is as follows:
Does Section 92-3.5, HRS, prevent the Council from continuing business if all the "board"
members (in this case the Council) are present at one videoconference location and the
videoconference system becomes inoperable?
If the meeting can continue, we would like to amend the Council's new Rules to include
videoconferencing procedures. Thank you very much for your expeditious response.
"Please route this form to the Office of the Corporation Counsel accompanied by your documentation.
You will receive a copy of this form, indicating the assigned attorney, entry number, and the expected
response date.
Please remember to use the Entry Number appearing below on all subsequent corresaondence
or submissions to Corporation Counsel's Office.
For Corporation Counsel ..~e Only:
ENTRY NO. WRK 04- Date Received/Assigned: By:
Attorney Assigned:
Response Deadline:
S: Departments/COrporation CounselMterdepartmental Work Request Form2
To: Council Me
From: Al Konishi
Date: September 1 O1
RE: Videoconferencing
We now have the physical ability to accommodate citizens from West Hawaii who wish to view
or participate in Council and committee meetings via videoconferences.
However, before going forward, there are a number of issues which should be addressed. Most
issues deal with staffing, the most important two issues are of policy questions. Please share
your thoughts with me about the following:
1. Disruption of Service (policy question). I believe that before we induce anyone
not to attend a meeting in-person, we should advise them of our policy relating to
system failure. I suggest that if for any reason (equipment or operator problems)
a videoconference is interrupted, the meeting should continue as scheduled
After studying a number of logistical matters, it is my conclusion that the Council
can not guarantee that the videoconference system will work every time. Further,
as discussed below, there may be times when unforeseen circumstances require
that a videoconference site be shut down. There are at least a few times each
year when the Council has Charter-mandated deadlines (for example, budget or
the overriding of a veto). If the Council's policy will be to terminate a meeting if
the videoconference is disrupted, important action could be irrepazably fiustrated.
For example, something very mundane, such as the misplacing or malfunctioning
of the remote control device in West Hawaii (perhaps due to a dead battery) could
prevent the Council from passing the Budget on time.
2. Scheduling. If we had unlimited time, staff; money and space, we could have
every Council and committee meeting available to West Hawaii on a gavel-to-
gavel basis. The biggest reason we are prevented from unlimited access is that
we do not control the West Hawaii site. Although I am sure that the Mayor's
Office will cooperate with us to the fullest extent, there may be times when the
conference room will not be available to us (if we videoconference committee and
Council meeting, most months we are asking for four working days cut of the 20-
22 working day month.) Unfortunately, the equipment is not very portable so
using an alternate site is out. Also, there may be times when there may not be
available staff in the Mayor's office to assist citizens in operating the equipment
or just keeping the office open (for example at lunch time). I have enlisted the
help of Mr. Blan from CERG and he can mobilize volunteers to learn to operate
the equipment, but what do we do after 4:30 pm or when the office staff is at
lunch? Also, just as in Hilo, after the first few items, the room may empty. Do
we keep the equipment on during such periods? NIy sug_oes[ion is that we
advertise the availability of the equipment and tell citizens that if and when they
wish to participate by videoconference, they should make appropriate
arrangements with the Mayor's office and the Clerk's office. If we are aware of
someone participating by videoconference, we should try to move The item up on
the agenda and then turn off the system after the item of interest is completed or
when the room clears or when the last qualified volunteer or staff person leaves.
Another possible solution is to have members of our West Hawaii Council staff
operate the system and staff the meeting from gavel-to-gavel.
3. Committee meetings (policy question.)
If you decide to make committee meetings available via videoconferencing, some
thought should be given to who will operate the system in Hilo. The possibilities
are: the civil service staff person assigned to the committee (may not be
practical); the Chair's council aide, some one from the Legislative Auditor's
office or the Chair. Iv1y suggestion is that each committee chair decides whether
to allow participation via videoconference and if so, to designate the person who
will operate the system in Hilo.
4. Notice.
Below is a first draft of a new paragraph which would be added to our agendas
and newspaper ads:
77ae Council Room in Hilo and the Mayor's West Hawaii Office (address)
are equipped with videoconferencing devices. Persons wishing to
view/testify by use of the equipment may do so by contacting: I) the
Mayor's West Hawaii Office (329-5226) to determine availability of the
facility; and 2) the Clerk's Office in Hilo (961-8255). Potential
participantc are advised that in the event of system failure, the meeting
will continue. Persons who feel that their presence/participation in the
meeting is essential, shozrld attend the meeting in person or mail/fax in
their comments.
s. Further Improvements to Access.
Hopefully, we will be successful in proving that videoconferencing is an effective
means to improve public access. If so, I will work to add sites (Puna, Waimea,
Kau, Kohala, etc.). Another improvement might be real time broadcasts via the
Internet.
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§92-3.5 Meeting by videoconference; notice; quorum. (a) A board may
hold a meeting by videoconference; provided that the videoconference
system used by the board shall allow both audio and visual
interaction between all members of the board participating in the
meeting and the public attending the meeting, at any videoconference
location. The notice required by section 92-7 shall specify all
locations at which board members will be physically present during a
videoconference meeting. The notice shall also specify that the
public may attend the meeting at any of the specified locations.
(b) Any board member participating in a meeting by videoconference
shall be considered present at the meeting for the purpose of
determining compliance with the quorum and voting requirements of the
board.
(c) A meeting held by videoconference shall be terminated if both
audio and video communication cannot be maintained with all locations
where the meeting is being held, even if a quorum of the board is
physically present in one location. [L 1999, c 121, ~1; am L 2000, c
284, ~2]
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