HomeMy WebLinkAboutREP HSEDC 010 11/06/2008 2006-2008REPORT OF THE
COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
DATE: November 6, 2008 RE: Comm. No. 1559/Res. 809-08
PLACE: Sheraton Keauhou Bay Resort & Spa
78-128 Ehukai Street
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
TIME: 8:30 a.m.
Council Chair and Members
Hawaii County Council
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
Your Committee on Human Services and Economic Development, to which was referred
Comm. No. 1559, reports as follows:
Comm. No. 1559, transmitted by K. Angel Pilago, dated October 21, 2008, submits
Resolution 809-08, which establishes the Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) Advisory
Commission for the purpose of furthering research and discussion of genetic engineering to
determine the appropriateness of the use of transgenic crops. The resolution also recommends
that members of the GMO Advisory Commission include, but not be limited to, the USDA
Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center, the taro growers association, the University of
Hawaii at Hilo College of Agriculture, independent coffee farmers, coffee processors and
roasters, organic farmers, the livestock industry, the floral and ornamental industry, the food
industry and two scientist/researchers, one who favors and one who opposes genetic
modification.
Most council members were in Kona for the meeting, however J. Yoshimoto and Chairwoman
Emily Naeole were in Hilo, participating via videoconferencing. Donald Ikedajoined the
council members in Hilo while the first testifier on the resolution was speaking. Councilman
Stacy Higa and Councilman Dominic Yagong were absent.
Cory Harden spoke in favor of the Resolution 809-08. She thanked Mayor Harry Kim for
suggesting the commission and Councilman Pilago for introducing the resolution establishing the
commission. She commended the recommendation that the commission be comprised of people
both for and against GMOs. She hopes it will stop the misinformation circulating about GMOs.
Diane Ley, representing Research and Development, offered supportive testimony for the intent
of the GMO Advisory Commission. That department believes that a commission comprised of
scientists and organizational stakeholders is a step in the right direction. The department
encourages constructive criticism and discussion about the technology and related impacts.
Ms. Ley asked that the commission members offer constructive compromises for the agricultural
industry islandwide. This dialogue and information sharing will only benefit the community.
Councilman Pilago made the motion to file Resolution 809-08 and to approve the resolution.
Councilman Jacobson seconded the motion. Councilman Pilago explained that this resolution is
a follow-up to Mayor Harry Kim's request in opening up the process to the public and have the
discussions done in a legitimate and transparent way. The recommendation is a very important
initiative that the mayor recommends and shows a partnership between the County Council and
the Administration on an issue that is very important to the well-being of our whole island and
toward the stabilization of our economy. He asked for all council members' support of the
commission.
Councilman Jacobson expressed support for the resolution and he is pleased Councilman Pilago
came forward with it. He is just hoping it will produce the desired effects, because all the people
who opposed the GMO ban bill--he talked with them and asked if they had any sympathy for the
people who have been put out of business by GMO contamination ofcrops--did not express any
sympathy for farmers with GMO contaminated crops.
Councilman Ikeda said he supports the resolution, but he wonders if the commission is after-the-
fact, because the Council already passed a GMO ban on coffee and taro. The mayor vetoed the
ban, but Councilman Ikeda would like to know how the commission affects the ban, the
subsequent veto, etc.
Councilman Pilago said the GMO commission does not affect the GMO ban ordinance as it
stands, and the issue of the veto is something that will be addressed later. Everyone agrees the
commission issue could have come up earlier, and the discussion format and public debate could
have occurred in a different way. Councilman Pilago said it's unfortunate the GMO ban
veto/commission came about in this fashion, but everyone needs to understand that there was
always the opportunity for this commission to be formed at an earlier time at an earlier period.
Councilman Pilago said he supports the mayor's desire for a commission, although it comes up
late for everyone. It should re-enforce the discussion for taro, coffee and papaya. Bringing the
discussion up in the public format is important for all of us, Councilman Pilago said. He does
not see a conflict between the commission and the GMO ban bill.
Councilwoman Brenda Ford supports the resolution with reservations since there are two groups
of people, one who wants GMO everything and a group led by the farming community who say
they don't want the ban on two products only. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground on this,
she noted. You have GMO coffee and taro, or you don't. The question Councilwoman Ford has
is who will decide who sits on the commission. Councilwoman Ford had a piece of testimony,
which all council members received, that she described as "extremely rude." The testimony
mentions the commission as "a place to discuss and understand the pros and cons of agricultural
biotechnology outside the rude and misinformed maelstrom of mainland funded activist
community." Councilwoman Ford doesn't believe there is anyone on the Council who voted for
the ban receiving any money on this issue. If so, she would like them to speak up because she
didn't receive any such money. It is that kind of person who shouldn't serve on the commission
because their mind is set in concrete, Councilwoman Ford said. They aren't willing to at least sit
down and have a rational discussion about the concerns of the farming community.
Councilwoman Ford is concerned about who selects the commission. Chairwoman Naeole said
it would be the mayor who would appoint members to the commission. Councilwoman Ford
expressed concern that it would be the mayor making the choice, when he has come out opposed
to the issue.
Councilman Pete Hoffmann said he understands Councilwoman Ford's reservations on the
resolution. He thinks the resolution is in response to an initiative the mayor made in his message
a month ago. He is pleased to think the Council is willing to follow up and try to do something,
even if some of his colleagues think it is late and should have happened beforehand. He heard
Ms. Ley say Research and Development supports the intent of the resolution, that it is a step in
the right direction. He thinks that is true. Under any circumstances, this is an issue that needs to
be addressed by the people of this island, Councilman Hoffmann said. While he has some
reservations about the appointment of individuals to this particular commission, he feels it is
important for the Council and the Mayor to make an effort to move forward on this issue that
impacts the agricultural community. He wanted to point out to his colleagues that there are some
issues that are not contained in the body of the resolution that could be addressed during
commission hearings. One is the lack of labeling of GMO products. He also believes that it is
necessary to discuss safeguards to GMO testing. He does not believe there should be an outright
ban on GMO testing. He believes testing can be done with safeguards, although he doesn't know
at this point what those safeguards will be. Councilman Hoffmann believes that in using this
particular resolution, there is a need to discuss the rights of the county in protecting,
safeguarding and establishing different regulations for agriculture within the county boundaries.
This clearly is an issue that can be partially addressed by a commission. Councilman Hoffmann
sees this resolution as being complementary with the efforts taken by the Council to ban GMO
coffee and taro. He doesn't see them as contradictory. He doesn't think that one needs to wait
for the effort. He supports Councilman Pilago's initiative in this case and will be voting in favor
of the resolution.
Councilwoman Ford said she agreed with all the comments thus far. Her concern is that there
may be some conflict in the minds of the council members between the establishment of the
commission and the GMO ban on coffee and taro. Her thinking is if there is that concern, she
wants them to be aware that if they override the mayor's veto, that law can be changed. Some
people may think that by starting this commission, it is safe to go ahead with GMO research on
coffee and taro. She moved to postpone Communication 1559 and Resolution 809-08 until after
there is a vote on overriding the mayor's veto on the ban of GMO taro and coffee. Councilman
Jacobson seconded the postponement motion.
Councilman Ikeda spoke against the postponement. He said by the discussion it is clear that
most council members support the resolution and the establishment of the commission.
Councilman Pilago also spoke against the postponement, noting the ordinance, the veto, and the
commission are all separate issues. The resolution is simply asking the mayor to form a
commission. It is the option of the mayor to organize these types of council, commissions and
discussions.
Councilman Hoffmann spoke against a postponement, as well. When the mayor made this
suggestion in his letter--after the GMO ban ordinance passed--Councilman Hoffmann contacted
Managing Director Dixie Kaestu with the idea of being concerned as to whether the mayor
wished to proceed with the formulation of this resolution, or whether the Council should do it.
The Mayor's Office got back to him a couple days later to indicate it would be perfectly fine if
the Council wished to proceed. He sees them as two separate items. Clearly, the resolution calls
for the new mayor, which means it would have to be after Dec. 1 anyway, to go ahead with this
particular resolution. Again, it's a resolution. The Council will determine whether or not they
are going to override the veto on Nov. 13. He doesn't see any reason to postpone.
Councilman J Yoshimoto agrees with both Councilman Pilago and Councilman Hoffmann. He
sees them as separate issues. He doesn't think there would be any confusion. The resolution is
clear on its face, calling for an advisory commission to bring everyone to the table. He spoke
against the postponement.
On the vote for the postponement, Councilwoman Ford and Councilman Jacobson were the only
supporters. There were five votes against it, and both Councilman Stacy Higa and Councilman
Dominic Yagong were absent. After the postponement motion, council members were back to
the main motion. With no comments, the vote was cast. Comm. 1559/Res. 809-08 advanced
with six aye votes and one nay vote. The sole dissenter was Councilwoman Ford.
Your Committee on Human Resources and Economical Development is in accord with the
purpose and intent of Resolution 809-08 and recommends its adoption.
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AYES NOES A&E EX
FORD x
HIGA x
HOFFMANN x
IKEDA x
JACOBSON x
NAEOLE x
PILAGO x
YAGONG x
YOSHIMOTO x
Respectfully submitted,
COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
AN CONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
EMILY N OLE, CHAIR
HSEDC REPORT NO. 10
ADOPTED: NOV Z ~ 100