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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOM 0853.040 2012-2014 Hawaii County Council Testimony of Charlene Prickett on Resolution 308-12 November 9,2012 2:p 01 Reaching out to community: Over the last few weeks, I have been diligent in reaching out for community input and involvement. I've had help from dedicated community leaders. I've contacted other land owners in the state who have successfully dealt with access issues, and I've heard their solutions. So, I'm encouraged.. Surfing: Surfers are by far the biggest user group at Papaikou Mill. They are largely males aged 12 to 30. We have provided permitted ocean access for so long that we've watched many of them grow up. For the most part, they're energetic, cheerful. . . and demanding. We open our gate at 6:30 in the morning and close at 6:30 at night. But surfers understandably want more time in the ocean during the longer days of summer. That's fine with us, but we no longer have the energy to extend this service ourselves, so a local management team is now forming to take on the responsibility of opening the property at dawn and securing it at dark. They've had their first meeting, determined the approximate months for extended hours, open and close times, how it can be made to work with scheduling managers and changing lock codes. They're recruiting dependable team members to share the load. And here's what's so encouraging to me. Craig Neff talked to them about the responsibility of taking care of this place, which includes enforcing the rules that foster good stewardship. They were fine with that. I think they are seriously committed to this place. Fishing: I have also talked to some of the local fisherman about forming a similar group that can work on after hours access so I trust that will continue to develop over the coming months. We have a few opihi pickers who come regularly now. Both old and young fisherman tell me that the best spot for night fishing is off the landings on Kihapau Point, below the adjacent property across the stream; there's little I can do about that access which is presently closed. Perhaps there is something you can do about it. Wider community involvement: Jim and I are delighted that Bradda Skibs and his non-profit Basic Image foundation are willing to partner with us on the general management of the access and the beach area. Skibs and his paka have a successful track record and can lend a framework for the Papaikou community to get involved and eventually take over a local community partnership model that Basic Image invented. For Jim and me, this promise of community involvement is a blessing. We need help in taking care of this place. Future public access: Our ultimate goal is a more suitable public access via an alternate route, but whatever happens, a robust community management group will be critical to the success of any County owned public access, lest the place we all love revert back to what it was in 1995 when, in addition to being a place of fond plantation memory, it had become a trash-strewn haven for drug dealers and vandals, the site of rowdy night-time parties, and a major disruption Comm. 8's- 3 ` �o Ref.To: 7 � Ref. Dote, NOV 0 0 & for the local Silverton Camp community. When the Hamakua CDP is complete, the developer Steve Shropshire, who owns the land to the north of us,will decide how, or if, he will develop his land. He has said publicly that he is waiting to see the vision of the CDP. It just makes sense to look at the big picture and set a public access route to Papaikou Beach within a plan that could connect up with ocean access required of the developer. With the CDP vision in place, parking and traffic flow, both vehicular and pedestrian, can be designed to respect the surrounding community and its natural environment. The Resolution: To push more people and cars down tiny Mill Road, as the present Resolution proposes, is inconsiderate of those who live on the road, especially those residents near the end of the road where cars constantly drop off, turn around in private driveways, and block driveways while waiting to pick up beach visitors. PUBLIC access brings increased use -- and that requires thoughtful design, because there's no going back to get it right. On that point, I have given you a petition signed by 21 Mill Road residents who don't want a public access on their road. I casually circulated this last spring before Jim and I decided we could get the mill out this next year. It alerts you to the fact that your decision here is going to affect the lives of some very good, hard working people in Silverton Camp. Before the Trail: This land has been a sugar plantation since the 1840s. There cannot be an inch of land where someone has not gone before. Over the years, there were many ways to get to the ocean down a ramp connecting various early mill buildings that have long since disappeared, down outside steps that have crumbled, through the mill that has collapsed, over flumes that no longer stand, down ropes that rotted long ago. This 1923 picture shows the steep hillside we bought in 1995 but by our time, it was overgrown with impenetrable 7-foot tall Guinea grass and weed trees. Had the County been presented with the option of buying a public access on this hillside, I doubt you would have considered it. Had Jim Waugh not designed and built this little farm road under a demolition permit, we would not be here today. Few people would attempt to go down or up such a steep hill today. By leaving the gate open and encouraging surfers to use his little road rather than go through the dangerous mill, Jim opened this place back up to the community. He built it, you like it and now you want it. Intended Purpose of the Trail: Clarence Salvador who worked for plantation and excavated this road with Jim is unique among heavy equipment operators. Liability insurance and cost would likely prevent such a project today. Jim built this road to a gentle grade that will accommodate an excavator in order to salvage the west end of the mill. Demolition of the mill requires access at both ends. That work is still ahead of us. Council should understand that this road will be required again for its original purpose. We have demolished many buildings on this site, including a couple at the bottom of this hill. Now we need to resume salvage of the mill which was started two years ago. Getting the mill out will reduce the liability the County risks in bringing the public to this site, and it will decrease the level of policing required by us, the owners. Consequences: It is not quite the time for a public access. We need to remove the mill and consult the CDP to build something that works well for the County, the community and us. This resolution asks the County to spend revenue it cannot afford. The damages accompanying such a taking will be considerable. The precedent set by the use of eminent domain will send a signal to big land owners who are providing access better and cheaper than the state or county ever could. They will rethink their generosity. They already are deeply troubled by what is happening here. Thank you for your consideration. I live in Silverton Camp. I don't want non-resident parking within Silverton Camp. The road dates from the early 20th Century and was not built for two-way traffic. When the road was offered to the County in 2001,the County turned it down saying it was sub-standard, as it is too narrow. Many of the residents in this community are elderly and require handi-bus service and occasional emergency vehicle service. There are also an increasing number of small children living in the houses along this road. The road is also used by pedestrians going to and from the store and post office or visiting friends. When there is parking on the road and road shoulders, emergency vehicles cannot get down the road. It also makes it very difficult to see small children and pedestrians. The owners of the road have,with considerable effort over a long period of time, limited the parking and thereby improved access for emergency vehicles and safety for children and pedestrians. I do not want to lose these improvements to safety and livability. I don't want a public access to Papaikou Mill beach from Mill Road. A public access would only increase traffic on Mill Road, increase parking problems, and reduce safety for residents. Crime would go up. As a community we have worked hard for many years to make this camp a safe place for all our residents. We have made informal efforts to limit the speed of vehicles using the road. We have provided night lighting for the road. We have worked long and hard to get minimal safety improvements for the access to the highway. There are a lot of houses in this small neighborhood, and it is already difficult to get out of the community and onto the highway or cross into the rest of Papaikou. The traffic generated by a public access would wipe out the benefit of much of this community effort. If there were ever to be a public access to the Mill Beach, I'd like it to come from the land currently for sale across the river so that parking could be right off the highway. People buying lots and building houses in a new neighborhood designed with beach access in mind would know what they are getting into and the design could provide appropriate buffers and protection to the small number of residents. Imposing beach access through an old existing neighborhood(with a much larger number of residents)which was not designed for it always has unintended negative consequences for the people already living there and should not be done without appropriate compensation or relocation allowances. Name Address Age Date j 4-% i-& /7')► e'�La..i r /' (3 v .5" 5. L v i'/?TG fir 41 y!' Cl 2. 3 f/ L zominimmistmatassr mritsmaP OIL . G '. L 5°, 1 vz-,] (144, `� VC/ f /1/C ,x /v i ;(n �_ q 1 L( I Zvi (;//j� .1 �v7 s, � �4 ?- .sue) //72.i • y _� / 4 �.� I_t ,fir r" -ff t - , v 4 1'2___ P l e A r 'o S a x S i P c r i t i k a t H 1 c-th 7 I 3 j /"/r Z ,? �t c- -✓ ry r T I r CG G , I live in Silverton Camp. I don't want non-resident parking within Silverton Camp. The road dates from the early 20th Century and was not built for two-way traffic. When the road was offered to the County in 2001, the County turned it down saying it was sub-standard, as it is too narrow. Many of the residents in this community are elderly and require handi-bus service and occasional emergency vehicle service. There are also an increasing number of small children living in the houses along this road. The road is also used by pedestrians going to and from the store and post office or visiting friends. When there is parking on the road and road shoulders, emergency vehicles cannot get down the road. It also makes it very difficult to see small children and pedestrians. The owners of the road have,with considerable effort over a long period of time, limited the parking and thereby improved access for emergency vehicles and safety for children and pedestrians. I do not want to lose these improvements to safety and livability. I don't want a public access to Papaikou Mill beach from Mill Road. A public access would only increase traffic on Mill Road, increase parking problems, and reduce safety for residents. Crime would go up. As a community we have worked hard for many years to make this camp a safe place for all our residents. We have made informal efforts to limit the speed of vehicles using the road. We have provided night lighting for the road. We have worked long and hard to get minimal safety improvements for the access to the highway. There are a lot of houses in this small neighborhood,and it is already difficult to get out of the conununity and onto the highway or cross into the rest of Papaikou. The traffic generated by a public access would wipe out the benefit of much of this community effort. If there were ever to be a public access to the Mill Beach, I'd like it to come from the land currently for sale across the river so that parking could be right off the highway. People buying lots and building houses in a new neighborhood designed with beach access in mind would know what they are getting into and the design could provide appropriate buffers and protection to the small number of residents. Imposing beach access through an old existing neighborhood(with a much larger number of residents)which was not designed for it always has unintended negative consequences for the people already living there and should not be done without appropriate compensation or relocation allowances. Name I Address /1 (( ``'' Age Date a-;g : } ,_. .�.�,',tZ rt ChL!c`f�i � Co` k';,tj'_c ! 1I 'i17 S1 75 1�; t i�• iA^: �Yc, ,.'��;,n }l L, ';'t 1 ;4:4,,j�,n;,�r J"� I-R �'` 1 3 z 6 1 Z..I II- ' 41 "✓- +,ih4.) . . pr ,/e" De . c'L '7 ` I 4.° ! vM11M. MSS l ..at, . &1 ?rc k v 5 b�()\r ilk U�-19V) i , l'° l 1*;t1lt:it1,4,i.,NAN,<=t1.P,'"k`'.: x R�.,+�'• r Via, Alm:' t * irj.„,. 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RSHCA Gen Membership Meeting Subject: RSHCA Gen Membership Meeting From; <ruralsouthhilo @gmaii.corn> Date: 11/7/2012 8:49 AM Charlene Prickett <sales @charleneprickett.com>, Craig Neff <hawnforce @aol.com>, Donna Johnson-Elayyan <dnnjohn @gmail.com>, GB Hajim <hajim @hawaiiantel.net>, Glenn Carvalho <glcarva60 @yahoo.com>, Kathleen Hancock <kathyh @kathyhancock.com>, Ken Okimoto <ko1054 @aol.com>, Kim Magnuson <olcaptk @hotmail.com>, Laurie Yoneda <issushigood @yahoo.corn>, Lizby Logsdon <lizbylou @yahoo.corn>, Lorraine Mendoza <mendozalor @yahoo.corn>, May Navarro <grelamal @msn.com>, Sunita Przewlocki <p rzewlocki.su n ita @g mail.com> Aloha Gang, Since there was a urgency, I scheduled this already. -NOV TO*. i3- 74,1litapplamt,Community Centaur General aimberibtp-Meeting Agenda to include W4410914 trying to organize residents,toa apii*inisetitztining access to tt;r g .. . ! There will be an explanation of wanting to organize people to volunteer to help monitor each other. Let's be responsible for ourselves! Access can be in the hands of an organized, responsible group of individuals who are users themselves. Charlene and Jim are graciously in favor of this type of arrangement. This is certainly a learning process for us all. This is a MUST-DO and that's why I went ahead and scheduled it. Mahalo, Donna If you wish to be removed from this email list please reply and let us know. Rural South Hilo Community Association P 0 Box 127 Papaikou, Hawaii 96781 1 of 1 11/7/2012 9:39 Al PAPAIKOU COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OVERVIEW Sat, Oct 20, 7:30- 9:00 AM Malama Papaikou Beach Clean Up 50 people attend mostly from Papaikou, cooperative spirit prevails Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Sun, Oct 21, 9:30 AM Talk Story Meeting at Papaikou Community Center 5 people attend from Papaikou, profound sharing experience Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Mon, Oct 29, 5:00 PM Yagong meeting at Council Chambers 15 people attend with 7 from Papaikou, intense animosity prevails,no attempt at compromise Initiated by Councilman Yagong Sun,Nov 4, 10:00 AM-Noon Meeting of surfer management team at Papaikou Mill 8 frequent surfers attend,positive attitude `we can make this work', lots of fun Initiated by Charlene Prickett of Papaikou FUTURE ACTIVITIES CURRENTLY SCHEDULED: Sunday,Nov 11, 5:00 PM Surfer team meeting at Papaikou Mill with new recruits Initiated by Surfer Team Tues,Nov 13, 7:00 PM Rural South Hilo Asso meeting at Papaikou Community Center. Surfer management team will explain their goals and operating procedures to Papaikou Community and seek input and volunteers. Initiated by Surfer Team Sat,Nov 17, 7:30 - 9:00 AM Malama Papaikou Beach Clean Up Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Sun,Mar 31 Time TBA Summer Surfing Kick Off(music, food, Easter egg hunt) Initiated by Surfer Team Charlene Prickett We discuss each rule to understand why the rule exists, how it's enforced, which might be revised or improved, which need further explanation or rewording. Discussion of Mill Road Margaret explains the importance of including the local community in decisions. She thinks that Mill Road residents just want to be able to park cars on the road when they have a party. I point out that it was a resident's cars parked on the road near my house that prevented access of a fire truck the night of the Japan tsunami. Jim and I explain that our liability obligates us to make sure the road is not blocked for emergency access. Jim explains that ownership of the road could be shared with Mill Road residents if there is a Silverton management group. Jim suggests we could seek community input along with the fire department and police service. Craig and Margaret agree to talk to Colleen Aina at Pinky's about the possibility of nonresident beach parking on her property. Discussion of fishing access The fisherman Craig invited to the meeting do not attend. We presume that local fisherman would want to control the fishing group. I mention that our only concerns for night fishing are night beach noise (our own barking dogs), security(recently had a thief stealing copper wire from the mill building) and smoke from fires. Margaret wonders if a designated fire pit could be positioned where smoke would not bother us in the house. Margaret mentions that she appreciated my offer of fruit at the top of the trail after the beach clean up. She wonders if I might just put extra fruit outside the gate for people to take for free. I explain that we have so much theft on the land with all the fruit sometimes taken overnight, that I don't really want to advertise our trees. Margaret suggests a help yourself free fruit box at Pinky's to share excess harvest. We all like that idea. Margaret and Craig discuss the importance of"the process" of community involvement and how different it is in Hawaii compared to the mainland. It is much more collaborative here. Ignoring that difference can create discord. Margaret and Craig share their perspectives on racism, outsiders, etc. Jeff says he has traveled a great deal and finds it harder to make friends here than anywhere he's ever been. Craig says that one has to sit and watch for awhile. Margaret says that one must find a trusted local to whom questions can be asked. This is a revealing meeting for me. I appreciate everyone's heartfelt sharing. SUN,OCT 28, 9:20 AM meeting with local surfers Jan Aquinaldo and Jessie Branco, leaders in the main user group We discuss surfer management of gate during extended hours of opening in summer. Jan and Jessie offer to pull together a group of responsible surfers, many of whom we already know and Notes & Minutes of Public Meetings. I have also had many one on one conversations with community members, land owners who have access solutions and CDP planners. I do not have permission from all of these individuals to share our exchanges. SAT, OCT 20, 7:30 -9:00 AM Malama Papaikou Beach Clean - Up People start to arrive about 7:40 AM and wander down trail in small groups or as singles. Craig Neff gives directions at beach: Bag man made rubbish in trash bags and carry to top of trail Hand carry organics (mainly drift wood)to a compost pile mauka the beach just off the trail. 35 people in the circle for chant; each person says name and where they live. Craig and Luanna Neff talk about community and caring for the place. Craig explains that differences are ok but by working together, we come to know each other and care for the place we all love. 10-15 more people come later for a total of approx 50 people Most people are cordial and industrious. In an hour,the beach is vitually clean of wood. Cans and rubbish under the mill floor in the "bunker"are also bagged and removed.. A tire is uncovered and rolled up the hill off the beach, thanks to Josh Vandermark Small talk story discussions evolve. I enjoy talking to fisherman about ideas for possible night access solutions. I exchange phone numbers with three fisherman. These fishermen don't want outsiders to fish,just locals. Brandie & 90 Edwin Paive 808-854-6315 Derrick Figaroa 808-964-5709 Gerald 808-937-1179 Some people sign up on Craig Neff's sheet so that he can contact them for future activities. Some people enjoy bottled water and pupus on the beach. At 8:30 or 8:45 AM, a few people leave due to other obligations. After the beach is completely clean at about 9:30 AM, Glen Spencer drives his truck to the gate, and all the trash bags are loaded in it. Glen offers to take it to the dump the next day. After 50 people, lots of water in plastic bottles and pupus, the beach is absolutely CLEAN! Some people take advantage of Meyer lemons I offer at the top of the trial. SUN, OCT 21,9:30 AM meeting at Papaikou Community Center Craig Neff Margaret Johnson Jim Waugh Jeff Sacco PAPAIKOU COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OVERVIEW Sat, Oct 20, 7:30 - 9:00 AM Malama Papaikou Beach Clean Up 50 people attend mostly from Papaikou, cooperative spirit prevails Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Sun, Oct 21, 9:30 AM Talk Story Meeting at Papaikou Community Center 5 people attend from Papaikou, profound sharing experience Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Mon, Oct 29, 5:00 PM Yagong meeting at Council Chambers 15 people attend with 7 from Papaikou, intense animosity prevails, no attempt at compromise Initiated by Councilman Yagong Sun,Nov 4, 10:00 AM-Noon Meeting of surfer management team at Papaikou Mill 8 frequent surfers attend,positive attitude `we can make this work', lots of fun Initiated by Charlene Prickett of Papaikou FUTURE ACTIVITIES CURRENTLY SCHEDULED: Sunday,Nov 11, 5:00 PM Surfer team meeting at Papaikou Mill with new recruits Initiated by Surfer Team Tues,Nov 13, 7:00 PM Rural South Hilo Asso meeting at Papaikou Community Center. Surfer management team will explain their goals and operating procedures to Papaikou Community and seek input and volunteers. Initiated by Surfer Team Sat,Nov 17, 7:30 - 9:00 AM Malama Papaikou Beach Clean Up Initiated by Craig Neff of Papaikou Sun, Mar 31 Time TBA Summer Surfing Kick Off(music, food, Easter egg hunt) Initiated by Surfer Team trust,who will get organized to take the responsibility to unlock the gate at 5:30 or 6:00 AM and lock the gate at 8:00 PM after a clean sweep check of the beach to make sure everyone is off property. Jan and Jessie are not particularly keen on dogs at the beach; we discuss the surfers' role in mentoring respectful behavior regarding fires and dogs. Jan and Jessie will talk to other surfers and organize a meeting of surfers and land owners for the weekend of Nov 3 on our front yard to work on the details of how this can work best. Jan and Jessie think a gate lock with key is better than a combination lock. They think a key lock is less likely to be vandalized. MON, OCT 29,2:30-3:45 PM meeting with Roy Takemoto, planning consultant for Hamakua CDP. We meet at Imiloa. Present are Takemoto, Prickett and Linda Sasenick. Roy explains one option for the CDP which envisions some urban development in Papaikou. Takemoto cannot talk to County Council about the CDP at this preliminary date, but he can say that the alternate trail proposal may be a better fit with the evolving vision of the CDP than the current trail. There are options for the CDP vision, and the community must be consulted before any decisions are made. The vision must be rolled out to the community first for their input, before any information can be shared with County Council. MON, OCT 29,5:00 PM Yagong meeting at Council Chambers Attending are Chris Yuen,Noelle Rodriguez of Global Hope, JC and Ellen Johnson from Silverton Camp, Linda Sasenick and Jeff Sacco from Silverton Camp, John Olson of Sierra Club, Niels and Becky Christensen of Global Hope, Jennifer Morales of Global Hope, Kalani and Rebecca Lyman of Papaikou, Tony Guiterras of Silverton Camp, Craig Neff of Papaikou John Olson says nothing at all. Kalani Lyman, Tony Guiterras and Niels Christensen want 24/7 access to the current trail and appear not be open to any other solutions. Tony Guiterras would like two trails to the beach because current one is too steep for him. Chris Yuen and Jennifer Morales seem interested in alternative route for public access trail but want to go forward with eminent domain simultaneously. Chris Yuen suspects our alternate trail idea is just a diversion. JC and Ellen Johnson support eminent domain. JC says that when haoles come to Hawaii, they have to bend to be like Hawaiians. Craig Neff sees options for access management in co- operative partnership between community and landowners. He feels access should be controlled in the Hawaiian spirit of care taking to preserve the place and the resources. Kalani Lyman said that paths that seem dangerous to others are not dangerous to locals and Hawaiians. I agree with him since I have seen some locals do amazing physical pursuits. Niels Christensen talks about going down a trail that was very steep in 1995. I tell him that Jim built the first version of his trail in 1995, and it was steep. Christensen says that he read that the mill had to close because of toxins in the mill building. WED, OCT 31,5:00 PM phone meeting with Access Lock Technologies Located in Philadelphia,Nelson Shane sells Multilock units which are guaranteed for life and use keys which cannot be duplicated. Cheapest padlock model G47 costs $50. Each key is $11 and can only be ordered from names on the signature card at original purchase. If the lock is vandalized, they can supply a new lock matching the existing keys. Locks and keys are very reliable and are made in Israel and are used by Isarali military. Delivery time is short as they stock everything so it's just a matter of shipping time. FRIDAY, NOV 2,2012, 11:00 AM meeting with Bradda Skibs at Papaikou Mill Skibbs explains his vision of how Basic Image can provide a framework for the Papaikou community to become involved in managing the trail and beach. He says he will work with the surfers to organize a management team to take over early opening and late closing of the gate during summer season. We discuss education activities to teach young people why certain rules are necessary to protect the place. Skibs talks about how to extend love and foster respect for the place in a positive way. Skibs is confident that Basic Image can mesh with the community for the good of all, and when the community care is self sustaining, he can step away. SUNDAY,NOV 4,2012, 10:00 AM - Noon, meeting with surfer management team volunteers Attending were: Craig Neff, Ryan Chow, Jan Aguinaldo, Jiemone Oliva, Mallory Durel, Lucas Brower, Jesse Branco, Charlene Prickett Ground rules established: 1) We accept that this is a learning experience. We realize changes may be needed in protocol over time to improve smooth operation. 2) Summer hours start April 1 and run through last day of September. 3) Summer opening time is 5:30 AM, and summer closing time is 7:30 PM. The goal is to have everyone off property by 8:00 PM. 4) Management team member who closes will be the last person to leave the property. Craig talked about the expanded role of management team members as enforcers of rules. He explained that their collective strength would be required to deal with occasional disrespect or abuse of rules. Craig also impressed on volunteers the magnitude of their commitment,that they must be there on time to open or close when they have promised to do so. Everyone recognizes the need for more management team volunteers in order to cover the entire summer season without putting too much burden on a few. A list of surfers and non-surfers is discussed as people to approach regarding their willingness to volunteer to pitch in. Mention is made of responsible people living nearby who might volunteer to open early on their way to work as a community service. Volunteers will contact potential volunteers to join management team and report back next meeting. List of potential members: Chelston Demattos Chaz Pinow Levi Medeiros Neil Bauer Andrea Bauer Nohea Masaoka John Burns Kesta Burns Lucas feels he can only commit to one day per month while Jan and Ryan felt they can carry a much longer period since they surf here almost daily. Mallory feels that the owners should open the gate at 6:30 AM if the dogs don't bark and no one has been seen going down the trail earlier. Craig suggests a signal system, like a mailbox flag, which can be seen by the owner from the house, as proof positive that a management team member has or has not come by 6:30 AM. As a default, owners can open at 6:30 AM if management team fails to do so earlier. The problem here is that other early bird surfers,NOT on the management team, may be frustrated if they come at 5:30 AM and the gate doesn't open until 6:30 AM. Mallory suggests that early surfers join an early bird club for a nominal fee which would cover the cost of one cell phone that would rotate through the management team as scheduled. Early birds can call the cell number the day before or as early as 5:30 AM on surf morning to get the new daily lock combination. Volunteers feel they would not mind early morning calls even if they had to work that morning. Charlene explains a phone message service used at a Kau ranch where hunters apply to be a pin numbered member of a group that can call a local number to get a lock combination to open gates to hunting grounds. The message service immediately emails the rancher to say who is coming in and what time. These records are kept by the service and available online if needed for reference should damage occur and accountability be required for discipline. The rancher and hunters are pleased with the service. The rancher reports few problems since the community is self policing in order to maintain a system that is working well for all. The down side is the cost of the service at $1,000 per year. The group agrees that we need to involve Silverton Camp right away to get their input on what we're planning, especially since surfers will be walking down the street earlier in the summer. We also need to involve the larger Papaikou community. Craig suggests we do the latter through the Rural South Hilo Association meetings where there is a set agenda. The management team will introduce themselves to the community and explain goals and planned operating procedures. Our next management team meeting is set for Sunday,Nov 11 at 5:00 PM. Craig will be out of town. Current team will try to bring potential new team members to that next meeting. Charlene will cook something since it's a suppertime meeting. Team will contact the people we discussed as being good prospects for the team, and Charlene will talk to the Rural South Hilo Asso to get next meeting date. Lucas asks about having a party. We decide to aim for a March 31 Summer Surfing Kick Off event in the daytime so families can participate. Charlene will ask Iopa Maunakea if he might provide music, and Jan proposes that we do pot luck food so it is a sharing experience. Craig announces that he plans to organize a second beach clean up on Saturday,November 18, and most team members say they will pitch in on that. Mallory, Jesse, Jan and Ryan say they would attend County Council meeting on Friday,Nov 9 to explain the plans. Craig cautions that they should not speak on behalf of the entire community since that meeting has not yet occurred. Mallory suggests that they can tell about all our plans and goals. County Council meeting is at 9:00 AM on Nov 9 at Council Chambers in the County building (the one with the indoor gardens) at 25 Apuni Street. You sign your name on the list to speak as soon as you arrive. The group agrees that we need to be able to contact one another. To that end, we are exchanging emails and phone numbers. Can you please let Charlene know if any mistakes appear in name spelling, email addresses or phone numbers. She will correct any mistakes in a followup email. Craig Neff 808-964-5321 hawnforce @aol.com Papaikou Ryan Chow 808-989-5743 kklayus @hotmail.com Hilo Jan Aguinaldo 808-747-5160 jan359808 @hotmail.com Hilo Jiemone Oliva-m 808-494-1052 Hilo Mallory Durel 808-640-5499 mallosurf @gmail.com Hilo Lucas Brower 808-854-4766 lucasbrower @gmail.com Hilo Jesse Branco 808-753-5439 Charlene Prickett 808-964-5618 sales @charleneprickett.com Papaikou Please speak up if Charlene has omitted anything that should be included in these minutes. 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There is no precedent for the use of eminent domain to acquire ocean access in Hawaii. 1 Mile is Not Miles HRS 115 provides for the purchase of private property for public rights of way to the shorelines using a condemnation action where there is no other access"for miles". The fact is that Honolii is one mile from Papaikou Mill Beach. No Historic Road or Trail Yuen asks how people got from the main road to Papaikou Mill in 1878 before the automobiles. The answer is by sea. There are many historical documents showing goods delivered to the mill by ship. That is why Na Ala Hele included the survey of wharfs in its written opinion regarding the photos of the mill. This government wharfs and landings survey makes no mention of a road at Papaikou Mill because at that time, everything was still transported by sea to this mill.Na Ala Hele has twice written an opinion that there is no evidence of an old road or historic trail in the vicinity of Papaikou Mill. Both of these letters are included within this packet. Yuen's 1915 map showing Mill Road is irrelevant. One must prove that Mill Road existed before the Highways Act of 1893 and no such map exists because Mill Road did not exist that early. The County of Hawaii Planning Dept as well as Na Ala Hele has examined these photos and maps and has written an opionion that finds no evidence for the claim of an historic trail. Chris Yuen and Niels Christensen efforts to claim a trail harken back to the 1945 quote from Jessamyn West ..."We want the facts to fit the preconceptions. When they don't, it is easier to ignore the facts than to change the preconceptions."