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Home My WebLink AboutREP FC 628 11/18/1992 b 1l COMMITTEE ON FINANCE REPORT NO. 628 (AMENDED) By a motion duly made and seconded, the County Council amended Finance Committee Report No . 628, by adding Puainako Extension as a project to the Hawaii County Council ' s 1993 Legislative Package. The motion was carried with Mrs . Hale and Miss Lai voting "no" on the procedure to amend a committee report . Further, Mr . Domingo requested approval to submit the Hawaii County' s Legislative Package, with the exclusion of the CIP items, to the HSAC Executive Committee for consideration in the HSAC Legislative Package. There was no objection. FC Report 628, as amended, was unanimously adopted. I hereby certify that Amended FC Report 628 was adopted by the County Council on November 18, 1992 . OUNT CL RK `�l�� R RMAN CMAN & PRESIDING OFFICER FC REPORT NO 628 (amended) ADOPTED: Nov. 18 , 1992 • REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE Date: October 19 , 1992 Place: Councilroom Time: 9 : 00 a.m. Your Committee on Finance, to which was referred Communication Nos . 4039 , 4234 , and 4235, reports as follows : Communication Nos . 4039 , 4234 , and 4235 submit the following proposals for consideration as part of the Hawaii County Council ' s Legislative Package. a . Communication 4039 : 1. $250, 000 to send a Hula Halau to represent the State of Hawaii on an international exhibition tour . b. Communication 4234 : 1. $1 . 5 million for signalization of Konawaena Intersection Improvements . 2 . $1 . 9 million for Lako Street Extension. (Connection to Alii Drive) . 3 . Kainaliu Town bypass road. (Hopefully, a State Highway undertaking) . 4 . Water source development in North and South Kona. c. Communication 4235 : 1. Amend Chapter 269 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, regarding E-911. 2 . Amend Section 46-16 . 7 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, County general excise and use tax surcharge. 3 . Amend Section 46-41 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, Biennial Budgeting for Counties . The Committee on Finance concurs with the proposals in Communication Nos . 4039 , 4234 and 4235 and recommends that they be made a part of the Hawaii County Council ' s Legislative Package. Respectfully submitted, COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AYES NOES 111 ALONZO X I > ' ' ARAKAKI X I"ttuMr_''Y. A• , .— , CHAIRMAN DE LIMA X DOMINGO X LAI X LA/DI MAKUAKANE X RUDDLE X FC REPORT NO. 628 ADOPTED: FINANCE The Committee on Finance Concurs with the proposals in COMMITTEE Communication Nos . 4039 , 4234 and 4235, and REPORT 628 : recommends that they be made a part of the Hawaii County Council ' s Legislative Package, was read. Mr. Arakaki moved to approve Finance Committee Report 628 . Seconded by Miss Lai . CHR. SCHUTTE: It ' s been moved and seconded that we approve Finance Committee Report 628 . Mr . Domingo. MR. DOMINGO: Mr . Chairman, with the exclusion of the CIP items, could we also use this package as a submittal into to the HSAC Executive Committee for consideration to be included in the HSAC package? CHR. SCHUTTE: I have no problem with that . Does anybody have a problem with that? (There were no objections . ) CHR. SCHUTTE: So noted. Mr . De Lima . MR. DE LIMA: Is it possible to add something to this thing? CHR. SCHUTTE: I beg your pardon. MR. DE LIMA: Can we add it now? CHR. SCHUTTE: Mr . Domingo . MR. DOMINGO: I have no problem. CHR. SCHUTTE: Go ahead. MR. DE LIMA: I 'm amending a report, that ' s why. MRS. HALE: I have a problem with that . It ' s not parliamentary procedure to amend the report . We cannot do that, according to Robert ' s Rules of Order . You cannot amend a report . I would suggest that if you have another project, that you put it out and go through the procedure. We still have time to send it on to HSAC. MR. DE LIMA: I believe we can amend the report . -1- AMENDMENT: Mr . De Lima moved to amend Finance Committee Report 628 by adding the Puainako Extension. Seconded by Mr. Alonzo. CHR. SCHUTTE: It ' s been moved and seconded that we amend Finance Committee Report 628 and add on an additional portion. MRS. HALE: That ' s not according to parliamentary procecures . CHR. SCHUTTE: Do you want to make that addition, Mr. Domingo? MR. DOMINGO: I--- MR. DE LIMA: Yeah, we just add the Puainako Extension. CHR. SCHUTTE: Mrs . Hale. MRS. HALE: Well , Mr . Chairman, I don' t think we' re following Robert ' s Rules of Order . But beyond all of that, Mr . Chairman, it ' s been called to my attention that the State told a community group in your district, Mr. De Lima, that if we turn this road over to the State, they'd have it done by now. I think, rather than trying to do this project ourself, that it would be well for us to look into that statement and see if there ' s any truth in it. That we maybe could ask the State to take this whole project on. Puainako Street is really a State highway. So, therefore, the Puainako Extension should be part of the State highway system; and it should be a State project, not a County project . I have no objection to, you know, asking the Legislature to put it on, and I 'm sure the local legislators will back that up. But what I 'm saying is, I think we should look further into this and maybe take the tack that let the State do this project . If they can do it faster than we can do it, so much the better. You should check that statement out with Mr . Hugh Ono. Thank you. It ' s in your district . CHR. SCHUTTE: Mr . De Lima . -2- MR. DE LIMA: Actually, I was at that meeting; and Mr . Ono and the State Highway is involved in the project . The EIS process is going through. The County is trying to assist and facilitate it . But basically all I 'm saying is that this project may be connecting an area that ' s in my district; but obviously, it flows as a service to the entire community area . But I 'm sure we all support the matter . I just wanted to make sure it ' s part of our priorities . Because of lot of development in the future can only occur once we get the infrastructure in. Thank you. CHR. SCHUTTE: Mr . Ruddle. MR. RUDDLE: Mr . Chairman, you know, this brings to light black & white information and statements that were made by the State Highways regarding Palani Road. They were going to take over Palani Road in 1991 when we brought it to State standards, and they never did. Consequently, the County still has Palani Road, and we ' re maintaining it . So, you know, I don' t know if there ' s any validity in a statement of that effect . We had it in writing, and they never took it . I think the older Councilmen who will all remember those statements that we resurface and, you know, make improvements to Palani Road, and then they would take it over, and they never have. So, you know, as long as, Mr . De Lima, your motion is on the floor, I could support it as long as we don' t have a conflict in the legal side. CHR. SCHUTTE: Mrs . Hale. MRS. HALE: I don' t think any of us are against asking the State Legislature to give us the money for Puainako Extension--I think that should be made very clear . We ' re all for the Puainako Extension; we all know that it should be done, and it should be done the fastest way possible . We should look into trying to expedite it ourselves, or getting the State to do it through the Legislature, or so forth. I am concerned, however, -3- about procedure of amending a committee report by adding a major thing on there that was not publicized in the agenda, and it was not part of the committee report . I don' t really think it ' s the legal process by which we should be doing this . On that basis, Mr . Chairman, I 'm going to object to the amendment. I will vote for the report as amended, but I will object to amending the report . Because when we start amending committee reports on the full Council level without letting people know 7 days in advance, I think we ' re very much in violation of the Sunshine Law. We ' re discussing an area that the public has not been alerted that we were going to discuss at all . So, I will vote against the amendment but, you know, if it passes, I will vote for the report as amended. Thank you. CHR. SCHUTTE: Right now, we have an amendment to the Committee Report 628 which includes the Puainako Extension be added on. No further discussion? Vote on the motion: Carried. Opposed: Mrs . Hale & Miss Lai CHR. SCHUTTE: Let the record so note, the motion is carried. The Chair will call for a vote on the main motion of Finance Committee Report 628, as amended. Is there a motion? Mr . De Lima moved to approve Finance Committee Report 628 , as amended. Seconded by Mr . Arakaki and unanimously carried. -4-