HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PC 2017/04/04 (2016-2018)Committee on Planning
5th Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
April 4, 2017
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Planning was called to order at
ORDER: 11:45 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Ms. Karen Eoff, Chair.
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Present: Ms.
Karen Eoff, Chair
Ms.
Eileen O'Hara, Vice Chair
Mr.
Aaron Chung, Member
Ms.
Maile Medeiros David, Member
Mr.
Dru Mamo Kanuha, Member
Ms.
Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms.
Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Mr.
Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member
Ms.
Jennifer Ruggles, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Max Newberg: Bill 22 (Comm. 181), comment.
Rufus Sonognini: Bill 256 (Comm. 1151), comment.
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
(There were none.)
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(There were none.)
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business, Bills
ORDINANCES: for Ordinances.
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Bill 256: AMENDS CHAPTER 25, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 25-4-51 OF THE HAWAII
(2014-2016) COUNTY CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED) RELATING TO OFF-
STREET PARKING AND LOADING
Establishes the required number of parking spaces for single-family and double -
family or duplex dwellings that are occupied for a period of less than 180 days.
Reference: Comm. 1151
Intr. by: Mr. Onishi
Referred to Planning Director
and Planning Commissions: November 15, 2016
(Note: There is a motion by Mr. Onishi, seconded by Mr. Kanuha, to
recommend passage of Bill 256 on first reading.)
; and
Comm. 186: From Mayor Harry Kim, dated March 13, 2017, transmitting the Windward and
Leeward Planning Commissions' favorable recommendations, with suggested
revisions as recommended by the Planning Director.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you. I'll open it up for discussion. Council
Members, Director Yee couldn't be here today, but we have a Planner from the
office, Maija Jackson, and if you have any questions, she's willing to come
forward. Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Yes, thank you. Maija, if you don't mind coming forward.
(Note: At this time, Maija Jackson Planner came forward to address the
members of the Committee.)
MS. LEE LOY: This bill was introduced by my predecessor, Fresh Onishi and
this is in my District. And just to give the rest of the Council Members an
overview, this is what happens when we have subdivisions that were built and
approved in the `70's and `80's. So we have road right-of-ways that are just
12 feet wide, or 15 feet wide, which doesn't allow for off-street parking. Am I
saying that right, Maija?
MS. JACKSON: On -street parking.
MS. LEE LOY: On -street parking. These homes, again, were built with different
standards. So as these subdivisions kind of rehabilitate themselves with rental
units or units that extend past 180 days—now keep in mind, a lot of the homes
back then, they were built with a single -car garage because most families could
only afford one car. There was no reason to have more parking on their property.
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So as these neighborhoods kind of rehabilitate themselves, kind of get into the
rental market, the residents that continue to live there get impacted by this
transition. And what this bill does really allows for the neighborhood to continue
in that residential feel, but ensure that it doesn't impact those narrow roads that
they had because those were the subdivision codes back then.
I also attended the Windward Planning Committee meeting and there was a
favorable recommendation from the Planning Director with some modest
amendments. And what I'd like to do is request to amend the motion with
Communication 186.1 which encompasses and includes the Planning Director's
suggested edits.
Motion to Amend: Ms. Lee Loy moved to amend Bill 256 with the contents of
Comm. 186.1. Seconded by Mr. Kanuha.
MS. LEE LOY: So speaking to that motion, and I justif I could ask Maija to
elaborate about Communication 186.1. Thank you.
MS. JACKSON: My name is Maija Jackson and I'm with the Planning
Department. Thank you, Council Member Lee Loy, we appreciate your
amendment since it's almost identical to what the two Planning Commissions had
suggested. And the reason for the amendment is the bill that Mr. Onishi had
originally initiated did not account for when a property owner rents out the entire
home as a whole to one family as a vacation rental. And so we wanted to account
for that in allowing a home to be rented, either rooms individually or the entire
home to be rented as a whole. And obviously, you're going to have different
impacts, if each room is rented versus if one family, that's most likely coming in
from another area. You know, they rent a rental car usually it's one, maybe two
which is similar to what a homeowner would have, one or two vehicles. So this
suggested language from the Commissioners accounted for that.
MS. LEE LOY: So really what I provided the rest of my colleagues, is building
off of what Council Member Fresh Onishi provided to the Planning Commission,
have it vetted and reviewed and provided their technical expertise and then
grabbed their suggested edits and dovetailed that into Mr. Onishi's original bill.
yield.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you for bringing that forward. Any other discussion on the
amendment, Council Members? Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes, thank you. Thanks for being here. I just have one question.
So Communication 186. 1, are these parking spaces on-site or off-site? Within the
property?
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MS. JACKSON: This bill would require that they park on the property off the
street.
MS. DAVID: On the property? Okay. That was my question, thank you.
MS. JACKSON: This whole section of the Code is related to off-street parking.
MS. DAVID: Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: This may be a question for you, Councilwoman Lee Loy.
Obviously this will impact some people and correct some problems that we've
heard articulated. Has this been evaluated? Because though I'm completely
supportive of something like this for all the right reasons, it will impact some
people's businesses. And has that been looked at? And is it allowable to have the
parking on the property in some instances? Are we going down a path where
there's no alternative for the people but to shut their doors as far as the rental? I
pose that question.
MS. JACKSON: I think it may impact some folks who have small lots and
there's no public parking allowed on the street. We haven't actually done a study
to see how many people that would impact, because we don't necessarily have a
really good handle of how many vacation rentals there are out there. So it will
most likely impact the smaller lots in the more urban areas like Hilo and Kona.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. Follow up?
CHR. EOFF: Go ahead.
MR. RICHARDS: So I think this probably highlights the bigger question that
we're going to have to tackle sometime in the very near future, but this is maybe a
band aid we do need. Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Ms. O'Hara.
MS. O'HARA: I appreciate Ms. Lee Loy for bringing this forward and to the
Planning Department and the Commissions for working out the wording here.
This is a tricky subject and one, as Mr. Richards alluded there's a bigger picture
here that we really need to tackle in the way of vacation rentals. I live in a
neighborhood it's not in Hilo and it's not in Kona. It's in lower Puna and it's in a
subdivision that has CC&R's (Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions) that
restrict uses to single-family dwellings only. But we have a lot of vacation rentals
and a lot of B&B's (Bed and Breakfast) who are not under the B&B rules of the
County, but they're operating nonetheless, Airbnb and what not.
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And we also have restrictions on street parking in our subdivision, but what we
don't have is enforcement capability because we're a subdivision and we have
CC&R's. But the County doesn't help with the enforcement of CC&R's.
So I welcome this in terms of having an enforceable rule that we can look to and
the problem is, as Mr. Richards said, going to affect small lots. In my
subdivision, the more desirable areas are down by the ocean. The lots are usually
10,000 square feet and under so it's highly unlikely that they're going to be able
to provide significant off-street parking. They may be able to accommodate one
rental unit or two at most.
But that also addresses a bigger problem for our neighborhood where we see a lot
of, I won't say illegal, but kind of operating on the fringe of vacation rentals and
B & B's. So I appreciate that this has come forward but it is, as you pointed out, a
band aid to a much bigger problem. Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other comments? Go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Just on the amendment, and really I just want toI wasn't sure
what the protocols were because when I read through the background report, there
was the suggested edits and I wasn't sure if the Planning Department or if the
Chair would—so I do really want to thank Leslie Chow from the LRB
(Legislative Research Branch) Division for picking this up and getting it in front
of us so we can continue to move this forward.
CHR. EOFF: And I think by your being astute and bringing it forward at this
point, we can address it now. It's fine. Okay.
Vote on Motion to The motion to amend Bill 256 with the contents of
Amend: Comm. 186.1 was carried by the following voice vote:
(Approved)
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair Eoff – 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Then we're back to the main motion which is the approval
of Bill 256 now as amended. Any discussion? No?
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Vote on Bill 256
Draft 2
(Approved)
April 4, 2017
The motion to recommend passage of Bill 256, as amended
to Draft 2, on first reading was carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair Eoff — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. EOFF: We'll move Bill 256 to Council with a positive recommendation.
Moving on to Bill 22.
Bill 22: AMENDS SECTION 25-8-13 (PUAKO-`ANAEHO`OMALU ZONE MAP),
ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING CODE) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY
CODE 1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY CHANGING THE
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM AGRICULTURAL — FIVE ACRES
(A -5a) TO INDUSTRIAL — COMMERCIAL MIXED — 20,000 SQUARE
FEET (MCX-20) AT WAIKOLOA, SOUTH KOHALA, HAWAII,
COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY: 6-8-001:058
(ADDlicant: R132 Investors. LLC) (Area: aDDrox. 1.756 acres)
The Leeward Planning Commission forwards its favorable recommendation for
this change of zone, which would allow the applicant to modify and incorporate
an existing building and parking lot and add two additional buildings and
additional parking to support a 20 -unit commercial and light industrial lease
space for businesses, offices, self -storage, and a restaurant.
Reference: Comm. 181
Intr. by: Ms. Eoff (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Richards moved to recommend passage of Bill 22 on
first reading. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. EOFF: Would you like to come forward, Mr. Harris?
(Note: At this time, Roger Harris Representative of R132 Investors, LLC
came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. HARRIS: Hello, my name is Roger Harris, I'm representing R132 Investors,
as the applicant from the mainland, Mr. Cory Redding, and he apologizes that he
couldn't be here. It was kind of short notice coming up, but he will be here a few
times in the new future. He hopes to get started in the summer sometime and
when he does come, I'll call Max and we'll talk.
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CHR. EOFF: Okay.
MR. HARRIS: Briefly, I know there aren't any graphics here, but this is in the
inland portion. It's about a mile in from the shoreline of the Fairmont Hotel at
Mauna Lani Resort, maybe a quarter mile from the Mauna Lani shops, which is a
fancy shopping area at Mauna Lani. The intention here is to take the old Mauna
Lani school site, which was shut down for lack of demand and the subsidy from
Tokyu dried up. There is some day care at the hotels now, but the school has not
been able to find a new operator and reopen. So the site was sold by Tokyu
Corporation to Mr. Redding.
His intention is just to fix up the old building and rent it out for various, lower key
uses than the shopping area, and then put in a little storage building for some mini
storage, and then wait and see how the market is. And in a few years, hopefully
they'll be enough demand to add another building. So it's 1.7 acres and we are
fine with all of the recommended conditions except for one, and I could explain
that now. We just submitted a letter addressed the Council Planning Committee
Chair today. We got a little bit nervous about the language of Condition F that
the Planning Department recommended at the Planning Commission, and that is
that we would comply with all the standards outlined in the Standard Details for
Public Works Construction R-33, which would apply to business zoning.
It's a little ambiguous in our minds what this would actually require, so we, on
page two, we have spelled out different language which essentially requires that
the resort's standard roadway at Mauna Lani have a paved shoulder and then
landscaping. And the pave shoulder acts as an area for the pedestrian and walkers
and bikers to go. There are no typical business sections at Mauna Lani, it's all
what they call resort standard.
The grading in the right-of-way is according to the standard and that's all been
done. So the addition—we would like to specify that the addition be of six and a
half feet. The shoulder that's existing now in this vicinity of Mauna Lani Resort
is six and a half feet from the white stripe into the edge, and that's what
everybody uses. So we're proposing that we'd be required to put in a six and a
half foot shoulder on our area. Right now, the grading has been done, there's
naturalized lava along that area that would be pushed back and smoothed out and
then the improvements to the pavement would be added. And Maija has a
comment from the Planning Department on this.
I talked to Kai Emler a couple of times and he is fine with it, but we'll put that a
little more formal. Beyond that, I'm here to answer any questions.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Harris. And Maija, would you like to fill us
in on the Planning Department's recommendation?
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MS. JACKSON: Yes, we received a copy of Roger's letter this morning and the
Planning Director has no objections to the condition language he's suggesting on
page two. However, we would request that at the end of the first sentence, we just
add "meeting with the approval of Department of Public Works (DPW)," just so
that we have a mechanism for DPW to review their plans for construction.
CHR. EOFF: And would you be willing to work with Mr. Richards if he intends
to draft up the amendment?
MS. JACKSON: Yes. Absolutely.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you. The question is do we want to postpone this in
committee while we work out the amendment? Or is there a timing issue? Do we
want to assume that Mr. Richards will bring forth an amendment for first reading
and we move it along with that understanding? I'll leave that up to discussion.
Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. Again thanks, Mr. Harris for coming in,
appreciate it and thank you Mr. Tarnas for attending as well. I look forward to
working with you and I will introduce an amendment and I'll get it rushed
through so my—this is my District and I'm very familiar with the property and
very familiar with what we're discussing here. And reading through what the
request is, and knowing what the property looks like, and what the intention is, I
think that request is very appropriate. And so I will work on getting that
amendment and I'll work with Planning to get that done.
My thoughts are that I don't see a reason to delay this in committee, I think we
can move it out of committee and get it to Council and have it ready and prepped
for that. I did—there were some things going through this that I had questions on,
so I did have a conversation with Mr. Harris concerning things and I think this is a
good project. Again, economic development, repurposing, I mean it makes all the
right sense for all the right reasons. So I'm supportive of this and I'll help move
this thing along.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you. Any other comments, Council Members?
Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: I'm going to be supporting moving this forward and awaiting
Mr. Richards' amendments. I think there's lots of time. What these amendments
do is actually keep the entire resort area consistent, and I cannot see Public Works
providing road standards that are inconsistent with the resort node. And I believe
that entire area is covered by a whole bunch of different design guidelines
anyway. So I will be supporting moving this forward and awaiting Mr. Richards'
amendments. Thank you.
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CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? Go ahead.
MR. RICHARDS: Just as a project as a whole, I appreciated your comments
when you sat down, Roger, and said you'd be meeting with Max to talk story
about again, we're talking about economic development. We're also talking
about putting people to work, so I appreciate that comment. Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Tarnas, you're sitting back here, did you
want to add anything? Okay. Thank you. Mr. Kanuha.
MR. KANUHA: Thank you. I'm in favor of moving it forward as well. Just as
aI know there's other commercial areas right around—over there with the
shopping center, is that?—you know the amendments that we're talking about, is
the amendments that we're going to be putting in here consistent with what's
happening at that commercial location?
MR. HARRIS: They have just a paved shoulder as well. There are no curbs,
gutters, and sidewalks in Mauna Lani. It's not that these standards would require
that, but it's a bit ambiguous and we talked to Public Works, they're okay with
this. So whatever you can, timing -wise work out theMaija's suggested
language is fine with us.
MR. KANUHA: I'm fine with that. If it's consistent with the rest of the—as long
as it doesn't interfere with any public health or safety issues then I'm okay with
that. I also got concerns, not concerns, but somebody asked me about traffic
impacts and I know you said—or within this proposal, it says it's going to be
consistent with the 40 trips, which was consistent with the school.
MR. HARRIS: Right, the prior years.
MR. KANUHA: So obviously, TIAR (Traffic Impact Analysis Report) isn't
really—the threshold is below—is 50, yeah to get a TIAR? So you're pretty
accurate on saying that estimate 40 trips are
MR. HARRIS: Yeah, especially its peak hour trips and the peak hour on a
resort—actually the peak hours—cocktail hour honestly, that's what everybody
goes around. So in the early part of the day, maybe we'll have cocktails, but it's a
small number, it's a fairly limited thing.
MR. KANUHA: And the reason I brought that up is because I actually tried to
ask the Police Department or whoever it was to see if there was—because that
intersection outside on the main highway, connecting Mauna Lani, there isn't a
signal light, right? And I know there have been accidents there in the past, it's a
pretty dangerous place. So I'm just wondering how much of an impact—is there
going to be more people going in there? And where does the County or State
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begin to regulate what happens with the traffic impact, especially at that
intersection? Is there a threshold where we say the traffic is going to be a certain
amount, we have to put in a light here or else there's nothing else that's going to
happen at that resort area? I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there for
discussion now or in the future.
MS. JACKSON: May I respond to that?
MR. KANUHA: Sure.
MS. JACKSON: So it is difficult determining trip generation for mixed
commercial, industrial uses because as you know, various commercial uses can
either have a really low traffic generation or a really high traffic generation. So I
believe what happened in this case is Roger did the best estimation based on the
square footage of the existing building and what they plan to develop in the
future. As far as that goes, the Commissions did include Condition G which says
that if any future use that he's proposing would generate a significant amount of
traffic above 50 trips, then they would need to do a traffic study. And do any
improvements to mitigate those impacts.
As far as the main intersection at Mauna Lani, it's possible that the Department of
Transportation has some threshold that they use. I don't know what that is, but if
there's conditions embedded in the ordinances in Mauna Lani that require
mitigation for that intersection, then once that threshold is reached, all of those
landowners would need to contribute to mitigating that intersection impact.
MR. KANUHA: Okay. Just trying to figure out the process of how that all works
out. And I know I can do that on my own time, not in front of the Council, but I
just wanted to bring that up as a point of interest.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you.
MR. HARRIS: Mr. Kanuha, there's no real condition on the original Mauna Lani
approvals that say that the resort is responsible for upgrading the intersection.
There's clear public opinion inside and outside and everywhere that the traffic
signal at least is required at the intersection. There have been numerous bad
accidents. There's a project across the street from this little old school area on
Ho`ohana Street that's entitled and there's agreements between the homeowners
association, Mauna Lani, and it's called the M Sites. And it was approved for
almost 980 residential and 545 hotel rooms on 150 acres. That's sort of last big
increment in the urban area of Mauna Lani. And under those agreements, the
developer of that is supposed to make improvements to this street and also
something to do with the intersection, I can't remember exactly. But there's a
little bit of hope out there then
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On this project, I'd say most of the customers would be within the resort already,
certainly the workers would be coming in every day and so, I think it's still
minimal if we comply with the condition that Maija's recommended.
MR. KANUHA: And I'm not trying to say that by approving this, we're going to
make you put in a street light at the intersection, that wasn't my intent. But just
trying to—where within all these agreements, the intersection's going to be
seriously taken a look at?
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Just one second. Mr. Chung, you had your light on a
little while ago, did you want to comment?
MR. CHUNG: I agree with Mr. Richards, I think we should move this forward. l
look forward to seeing what his amendments are and if I could just request that
we have someone from Public Works here. I just want to understand how they're
going to apply whatever you come up with because I don't want that to be a road
block actually. I want to make sure that they're all on the same page as well.
That's all. Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Mr. Richards, did you want to respond?
MR. RICHARDS: Yes, just a quick follow-up on Council Member Kanuha's
point. I think your point is well taken, we all know that intersection and again,
it's in my District. I think reference of scale—what we're talking about it relative
to the population that comes through that intersection and the whole Mauna Lani
Resort, compared to this little development. I don't think you'll even notice the
impact. However, as was pointed out, the new entitlements that are there for
another 1,000, yeah, I think we'd definitely notice that. So it's a relative scale, I
agree. But it's good to keep in mind so I agree with you, Councilman, that we got
to keep that in the back of our head as we go forward. Thank you.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: I just have a follow-up question regarding the SMA (Special
Management Area) that's attached to this. When we edit the condition, do we
also need to edit the conditions of the SMA to be consistent?
MS. JACKSON: The SMA permit that was recently issued refers back to the
ordinance, so any amendments made to the ordinance will automatically apply to
the SMA permit.
MS. LEE LOY: And the timing on the SMA permit? Is there like a 10 -year time
window?
MS. JACKSON: I believe it was five years for construction.
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MR. HARRIS: Phase one.
MS. JACKSON: Of phase one.
MS. LEE LOY: And then consistent with the change of zone with a ministerial
time extension attached to both?
MS. JACKSON: That's correct.
MS. LEE LOY: Perfect.
CHR. EOFF: Thank you. Any other comments?
MR. HARRIS: I'd just say the Planning Director's comment is right after the
word "frontage." "Applicant shall provide a 6-1/2' wide paved shoulder adjacent
to the existing roadway pavement along the project frontage." They want
they're suggesting adding "meeting with the approval of the Department of Public
Works." That's all the language is and we're good with that. I think though
you'd want to float this by Kai Emler or Department of Public Works.
CHR. EOFF: Okay. So then I'll just request, Mr. Richards, that when it does
move to Council and you bring your amendment, that you make sure that we can
hear from Public Works as well as Planning. Okay. Thank you.
Vote on Bill 22: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 22 on first
(Approved) reading was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair Eoff — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. EOFF: Bill 22 moves to Council with a positive recommendation. Thank
you folks.
MR. HARRIS: Thank you very much.
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ADJOURN There being no further business, at 12:23 p.m., Ms. Poindexter moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. David and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair Eoff — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. EOFF: This meeting's adjourned.
Approved:
Ms. Karen Eoff, Chair U (Date)
Planning Committee
KE/jm
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