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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN COUNCIL 2015/05/18 2014-2016 Special th 12 Session 74-5044 Ane Keohoklole Highway, Building A Kailua- May 18, 2015 INVOCATION: Pastor Keith Elliott of Kona Church of God CALL TO y Council was called to order at ORDER: 9:09 a.m., in the Council Chambers Kona, by Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Chair. ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Chair Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Vice Chair Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member Ms. Karen Eoff, Member Mr. Greggor Ilagan, Member Mr. Danny Paleka, Member Ms. Margaret Wille, Member Absent & Excused: Mr. Dennis , Member PLEDGE OF The Chair directed the Council to the next order of business, Pledge ALLEGIANCE: of Allegiance. (At this time, Ms. Poindexter led the Council in the Pledge of Allegiance.) CHR. KANUHA: Thank you very much. And I also wanted to read a memo tly attending that meeting right now. Recess: At 9:16 a.m., the Chair called for a recess. Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 9:20 a.m. -12 May 18, 2015 STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items. PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by the Chair: Kami Carter: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Lorenzo Carlson: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Cory Harden: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Kimo Makaio Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Diane Koerner Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. For Alternatives to Pesticides) Roger Harris: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Olivia S.Y. Ling: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Samantha Sherline: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Thomas (Tad) Veltrop: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Robin Rasch: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Carol Bazzini: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Daphne Gray: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Chandell Asuncion: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Blake Watson: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Reta Martin: Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. June Conant: Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in support. Mark Kiyuna: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Page 2 -12 May 18, 2015 John Garvison: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Channing Macgeorge: Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Michael Sherline: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Makana Nappone: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. David Cottis: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. James Channon: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Yasha Noa Eads: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Cynthia Waymegwance: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Ivy Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Clare Loprinzi: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Recess: At 10:41 a.m., the Chair called for a recess. Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 10:56 a.m. Frannie Pueo: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Andrea Tishchler Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Ken Peeler: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Richard Abbett: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Antje Dietrich: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Frank DeCaria: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Anthony Palazzolo: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Leona Kassel: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Joe Kassel: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Page 3 -12 May 18, 2015 Jackie Prell: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Danny Miller: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Kimberly Kestrel H. Sutton: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Henry Sutton: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Alapai Kaulia: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Mehana Kihoi: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Krisztina Samu: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Ted Greenwald: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144); comment. Shadow Diessner: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Sharon Willeford: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Lea Mizuta: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Amber Rinker: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Robert Block: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. CHR. KANUHA thinking of taking about an hour lunch recess. Come back around 1:15 Recess: At 12:12 p.m., the Chair called for a recess. Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 1:21 p.m. Lisa Andrews Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Page 4 -12 May 18, 2015 Richard Benton: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Kittrena Morgan: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Abel Lui: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Devin Longfellow: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Nakoa Sutton: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Derek Brewer: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Winter Hoohuli: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Keoni Kalanui: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144); in opposition. Dana Moss: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Jennifer Sleightholm: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Shannon Rudolph: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. Jenny Gardner: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), comment. April Lee: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Katherine Lahey: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Nate Hayward: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Jerry Shumate: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Dashell Kuhr: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Clarence Baber: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), in opposition. Page 5 -12 May 18, 2015 Charles Flaherty: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Leonardo De Souza: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. Mariah Barnett: Bill 28 (Comm. 143); and Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Dana Moss: Bill 29 (Comm. 144), comment. Bryan Belice: Bill 28 (Comm. 143), in opposition. CHR. KANUHA: Mahalo, for your testimony. Is there anybody else wishing to testify in the other sites? Is there anybody here in Hilo? Okay, hearing or seeing Recess: At 2:41 p.m., the Chair called for a recess. Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 2:53 p.m. CHR. KANUHA: d here. Please everybody, can you go back to your seats? Thank you, we closed Public Testimony. And now Mr. Clerk, can please read in the Operating Budget Bill 28? BILL FOR The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Bills for ORDINANCES Ordinances (First Reading), (FIRST READING): Bill 28: ESTABLISHES AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2015, TO JUNE 30, 2016 From Mayor William P. Kenoi, dated February 27, 2015, transmitting for co Fiscal Year (FY) ending June 30, 2016. This balanced budget includes estimated revenues and appropriations of $434,667,890, and is $17,752,059 or 4.3 percent larger than last year Reference: Comm. 143 Intr. by: Ms. Eoff Approve: FC-25 Page 6 -12 May 18, 2015 ; and Comm. 143.8: From Mayor William P. Kenoi, dated May 5, 2015, transmitting Bill 28, Draft 2. This draft revises revenues and expenditures for accounts proposed in Draft 1 as follows: General Fund (total adjustments +$4,046,770), Highway Fund (total adjustments +$113,404), Sewer Fund (total adjustments +$27,000), Bikeway Fund (total adjustments +$10,000), Solid Waste Fund (total adjustments -$56,994), Golf Course Fund (total adjustments +$11,000), and Housing Fund (total adjustments +$30,000). Draft 2 proposes 30 new positions and a change in title for one position. ; and Bill 28 ESTABLISHES AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF (Draft 2): FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2015, TO JUNE 30, 2016 Proposed Operating Budget for fiscal year ending June 30, 2016, includes estimated revenues and appropriations of $438,793,070. Intr. by: Ms. Eoff (Note: Comm. 143.10, from Council Member Greggor Ilagan dated May 18, 2015, transmitting proposed amendments to Bill 28, Draft 2, was circulated.) Motion to Approve: Ms. Eoff moved to pass Bill 28 on first reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 25. Seconded by Ms. David. CHR. KANUHA: Pursuant to Article 10, Section 10- Charter, the Mayor has submitted an amended Operating Budget to the Council on May 5, 2015. Any discussion before we move on to the proposed Draft 2? MS. EOFF: Mr. Chair? CHR. KANUHA: Ms. Eoff. MS. EOFF: I know that is the process, and we need to get Draft 2 on the floor, but before we do that, I just wanted to address and take this opportunity first of all, to thank all the testifiers that came today. And they are bringing up very important issues and concerns, that I think most of us do share. So I wanted to take this opportunity to address the roadside spraying, and the concern about the use of Roundup. Last week when I was looking this over, I did make a call both to the Finance Department, and to Mr. Lee at Public Works. And I understand that his fund is lodged under the Highway Fund, and it was called or it is called Roundupand a line item for the purchasing of Roundup. I was wondering and I did ask, why we needed to call the fund by that name, and if that was even appropriate, and that Page 7 -12 May 18, 2015 maybe if we could change the name of that fund, to something like weed control or something, that maybe a better opportunity to explore some alternatives. And I was told thatnd that both the Finance Department and Mr. Lee are willing to look at that. It may not require a budget amendment, but would behoove us to begin to look at other alternatives at this point, for the island for the protection of our finite resources a health. (Note: At this time, Public Works Director Warren Lee came forward to address the members of the Council.) MR. LEE: Good afternoon. Warren Lee, Director of Public Works. MS. EOFF: Mr. Lee, could you just explain how the fund, s lodged under the Highway Fund, and what we can do to maybe open it up towe can explore alternatives to controlling the vegetation. MR. LEE: Sure. First of all, let me give you the background. The Highway Fund is basically funded by the fuel tax, and other corporation taxes that are used for the maintenance of roadways. And vegetation management is one item in the budget that we have proposed for next fiscal year. Now on the I, the Department of Public Works, under the Highway Division, takes care of roughly a 1,000 miles of road. Of that 1,000 miles of road, you have various activities, which include roadside maintenance, flood control, pothole repair, resurfacing, drainage, drywells cleaning, etc. So when you get to the vegetation management with the exception of major tree trimming, roadside maintenance, basically we have a combination of activities that we perform. One is we use herbicides, the other is we mow, and the third is we use manual labor, whether it be withmost likely with weed whackers. So in the area of roadside maintenance, approximately 60 to 65 percent of the work is done by mowing. Another 10 percent is done manually which is the weed whackers. And then 25 to 30 percent is done with the herbicide treatment, and this is primarily in areas that are very difficult to get at. The other area that we use herbicides is in the flood channels, where the flood channel can be dry normally. And when it rains up on Mauna Kea, or it rains up on Mauna Loa, or it rains someplace the water flows downhill, so that flood channel needs to be maintained. Normally flood channels are not what we call lined with concrete rock, so mos percent of the flood channel work is done by manual labor with weed whackers. And then the other 30 percent is done by herbicides, and the other 10 percent is by other mechanical means. So the $30,000 that we have in the Highway Fund, designated for the Highway Fund Operating Budget is about $30, 000 herbicides. Page 8 -12 May 18, 2015 We listed that as Roundup. T somewhat successful as far as vegetation management. Renaming the fund, and listening to the testimonies throughout the day today, I mean certainly we are open to considering other forms of vegetation management or herbicide control, whether it be saltwater with vinegar and a little garlic. And re certainly open to that. Looking at the other product that was mentioned, , was C-cide. So I have a and I forgot what the name was. meeting with them, to see what their experience has been with vegetation management. And again to other ideas. So renaming the 216 account to herbicide treatment is perfectly acceptable with me. MS. EOFF: Okay, thank you, inance wants to add anything to that process, so we could understand how that would move us. (Note: At this time, Finance Director Deanna Sako came forward to address the members of the Council.) MS. SAKO: Good afternoon, Deanna Sako, Director of Finance. I think all it would take is for us to change it in the details of the budget, and make that copy available before the next reading of the budget to the public. MS. EOFFand at this point I think open it, to hear from my fellow Council Members. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: So I like the idea of looking at alternatives. But for the time being, if their using Roundup nt near their property sprayed that they can fill out online? Or do you know about that? MR. LEE: rperson Poindexter. But we do have a practice where if an individual who lives close to the roadside or on the roadside, prefers to do the roadside shoulder maintenance themselves and without the spraying, then they come in and they contact the respective Highways Division baseyard in their district. They understand what needs to be done, and they put up a sign saying no spray. And then we take notice of that sign, and then the operator should not be spraying that area. A testimony sometime today, that there are no spray signs where the property does fide agreement that we Page 9 -12 May 18, 2015 very willing to work with them. And if anyone else wants to join the program, we spraying of what we presently use. MS. POINDEXTER: Right. So if they just putting up the no spray, that may not work, because they need to notify the baseyard and fill out a form, s aware that, that property is because if I just go on properties along Ookala side property, do we have that on list as a no spray area? Because they have to have it recorded, be use R vacant lot, A thinkI just want the public to know, because I heard that some people just go put the signs. But they may not be recognized asyou know, your men who are out there, may be doing what is right, because they have nothing in writing, or an agreement or something. MR. LEE: That is correct. And the reason for the vegetation management again certainly if it gets over grown with vegetation, that ditch will not function as far as drainage control or removing flood waters. The other thing is that if you have vegetation that goes on unabated, it could turn into a hazard with traveling site distance, you know, you not able to see around curves. Much less, if it is a tall grass, then it may be difficult, especially if the shoulder is very soft. Drivers may pull over, and they could put themselves more in harms way than staying on the road. So this is nothing, easy issue to address from the public health and safety standpoint. Bwilling to see what are the alternatives to using the present herbicide that we use right now in that 20 to 30 percent range of all the activities that we do to maintain the shoulders. MS. POINDEXTER: Right. And I agree with that, because I want to go back to eating gulch food. We use to call it gulch food growing up, because we could go into the gulches and just pick fruit or whatever is available for us to eat. And not afraid to, becauso I look forward to the alternatives that may happen. So thank you, thank you very much. MR. LEE CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. Ms. Wille. Page 10 -12 May 18, 2015 MS. WILLE: Yeah. My opinion is that we should just say no, and not use Roundup any further. I added up the line items that I could find, I think Highways is close to $30,000 or over that including Flood Control. You then add in Wastewater, and golf course use. It comes out close to $48-50,000 just in the supply of Roundup. But certainly the largest portion is in the Highway and Flood Control. And it is convenient, just looking at economic wellbeing or short term economic wellbeing, w clearly outweigh it. issue where we have to worry about prehension and the State says what we can do. We can make this decision ourselves. This should be pretty simple, I know sort of researching it, you know, I looked at Vermont. I guess Vermont, basically they looked at different alternatives, and they started increasing their roadside beautification program, and planting what kinds of alternative plants for sort of long term care, and promoting bees and that. And I do notice that we spend very little out of our Highway Beautification Fund, and I think this would be a good way to spend those funds that are going unspent. everybody walks. And I walk most every morning with my dogs, a when they just sprayed it. I can tell a few days later, when it all turns brown, but So we are putting people at risk. I do think yes, there cumulative toxins is causing a great toll on the health of our people, and especially kids who are the most affected, and actually affecting babies. I guess with women it goes through to the a much higher level of toxins. here certainly seems applicable. I mean, I figured out the line items. I am going to list them down and do an amendment and just take those out. And that we move forward, you know, countries have done it, and not just set aside some of the convenience for what is in the long term best interest here. acute issues, then cumulative ones, b. And , tomorrow, and us, but for the future. So I think that this is a simple one that we can address and encourage, work, I know their always looking forwhere the courts, what can people do that are additional community work. Anyway it is a challenge, I appreciate it, and I Page 11 -12 May 18, 2015 the kay, lets start looking at alternatives. enough. Thanks. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Ms. David. MS. DAVID: Yes, very quickly, Director. In your efforts to look into other eco-friendly methods as opposed to Roundup, in that transition do you foresee that timeline? Should there be an alternative in transitioning? The only reason is, because of the testimony and the critical concern about spraying near schools, hospitals, and parks. So Iine would be, should you find an eco-friendly alternative in transitioning. MR. LEE: Councilperson David, I woul can tell you it would be interesting. , obviously, if we say we want to use no pesticides. Th increase our manpower or equipment purchases, then we cannot maintain the status quo. MS. DAVID know logistically what this would take in order to transition into something like and based on that in the interim, would you also consider right now considering an in-house no spray near schools, or hospitals, or that sort of? MR. LEE: You know, I would consider that, but to be in perfect candor is that the County does not spray every road. Because we spray the roads under our jurisdiction. S roads. So we could certainly do a study as far as who sprays close to schools and hospitals. And I can tell you almost point blank, that most schools and hospitals are located close to the highways. Which would then come under the State Department of Transportation. So I cannot promise or make a prediction on that type of buffer, restricted zone. MS. DAVID: I understand. MR. LEE: Thank you for asking. MS. DAVID: But I was just curious to see, and if you could do some investigating about that, to see what the County is actually responsible for and the jurisdiction that we have as far as spraying, that would be great. And thank you. MR. LEE: Thank you. Page 12 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. David. Any other Council Members on the first round? MR. PALEKA CHR. KANUHA: Oh, Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: research, even while we were listening to a lot of the testimony. And I had to go research about organic natural foods, because it seems we wanting to ban, well proffered that we ban a substance for herbicide, because it may be dangerous. Okay, now I look for organic foods, U.S. Centers for Disease Control. People who eat organic and natural foods, are eight times as likely as the rest of the population to be attacked by a deadly new strain of ecoli bacteria. So were going to ban natural foods, organic foods? to testimony. Now people, you have to educate yourself on the issues, the World Health Organization came out with a release that it may cause cancer. Germany came out right after that, the (speaking German) speak, I let everyone else speak, okay. The thing is, I have no problem with using alternative means, the burn-out too the clove oil, that seems like a good solution. But to ban stuff, yeah, because we think, or based on evidence that I think is it might be correct. and the insinuationswell lets not go there. But I think we have to be really cautious, yeah, really cautious, because everythi I had cancer, okay. People that have it or had it, and fought it yeah, we know why, or we suspect look for all the alternatives, and the Director seems it wise that we move into a e with that. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Any other Council Members on the first round? Okay, Ms. Eoff. MS. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to address Ms. Wille. I too oundup at all, on the side of caution too. But I was just looking at a practical way to move us closer to that goal. Because wthe opportunity to ban anything. Were looking at the budget b . W Page 13 -12 May 18, 2015 budget. And I think if you have thoughts of introducing legislation that would limit or even ban, you know, the use of certain things So you can take away that account, or make an amendment that would take away that whole account, but then where would we be. We need a line item that deals with control of vegetation in the areas that either of a public safety issue or the normal beautification under the Highways Division. and what we can do right now, which the department and the Finance Department has been willing to take a look at. And there could be a proper time, later that you would maybe think of some other type of legislation. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, and Karen, I definitely agree with you, because I would not want to see that $30,000 go away. Because if we take that away, no disrespect Council Member Wille, then we looking at possibly over hundredwe have to replace it with probably a $100,000 or more, becau more manpower. And one person with the salary, plus youre talking about healthcare and all the benefits and stuff, that would be for one person. In my area Hmkua, you know, we have dini grass that is relentless, been having a lot of people calling, because of the danger of it, you know, getting onto the road and the vision. And I just went up to one place that we had to go and clear out a gulch area, because the turn, the one-way bridge was blocking the now. So I would hate to see that just go away, because I think if we look at the consequences and the safety issues in our community. And I understand, we got to be out there more, but if were there on a continuous maintenance schedule, we going to need more manpower to deal with these problems areas, and I have a lot of problems areas in Hmkua. So I would snd look at alternatives, and being able to use that funding for something like that. So thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is all interesting and makes it even more fascinating the floor. But that being the case, let me just weigh in on all of this. You know, whenever I spray Roundup, I put on all of my clothes, I put on that white thing that I buy that only exposes my face. I put on my boots, I put on my gloves, I put on my goggles, and I also put on that blue mouth and nose piece. I close all the doors of my home. And I started parenthood at a real late age, so my kids are still Page 14 -12 May 18, 2015 small. I tell them to stay inside, keep the dog inside, close all the windows, and I about an hour or two after. But implicit in all of that narrative that I just related to all of you, is that I spray Roundup. And there are practical applications for this thing, my property is quite large and I somebody to do it by hand, I would go broke. So there are some practical considerations here. I trust the Public Works Department and the Finance ng do something with the budget. that we can expect something coming up next time. I would be really reluctant to support a ban on the use of Roundup. Certainly interesting I have to say, because I have a oundup in that area, or anywhere close to it. And what I found very interesting was all of kind of oo I found that very fascinating. But why dt we let out departments do their job, , thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Any other Council Members? Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE: another, I mean, I really want the word where it says R saying is bringing up an amendment. I is taken care of by I guess the direction I feel is not even toxic that we go in that direction. I think one of my problems is just on the public lands along the road is just as think that is different, t know that the trucks just going by like the picture. You know, I think whether it says, like Mr. Paleka says, it may or is likely, you know, whatever these words, clearly acknowledge to be a poison, and that we treat it that way. And the impact on the bees, on the other animals, on our ecosystem is clear. Sm open to how we move forward. But certainly where other countries, other municipalities have done this, I think certainly consistent with our m, Page 15 -12 May 18, 2015 our whole way of thinking of this island. So it may cost more, but I just think the first to stand for a higher level of health and safety of the people. So I feel strongly about it, but how we go about it, kay, . I think that for me, having a deadline makes you do something, makes you figure out those alternatives. So I yield. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: Yeah, I just wanted to comment more on theI would certainly support an increase in the budget for more positions in lieu of using any herbicide for weed c I would also love looking into other means, and the clove oil is a good one, the steam. I mean there other governments, countries, municipalities, using alternative means again. And us renaming the account for the purpose of weed . And really, I hear both sides, because def there. But hopefully we moving forward in the right direction. Thank you again. oncern about our hia trees, yeah the Ceratocystis really concerned about your property that I had, by putting the mulch from Solid W got affected. So we got to really watch in terms of our compost, if that fungus is in our compost, and just a warning to people out there, be careful of this fungus, bhi lau malo. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Any other Council Members on the second round? Okay, Ms. Eoff, last say. MS. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Before we move on, I just want to say thank you to the Finance Department and Mr. Lee for your willingness to listen to the concerns voiced here today, and that all of us I think feel for protecting our land and our health. So we look forward to working with you, and seeing how we can move ahead as a progressive island. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, thank yod discussion on the main motion and Ms. Eoff, may I have a motion to amend Bill 28 with Draft 2 as submitted by the Mayor? Motion to Amend: Ms. Eoff moved to amend Bill 28 to Draft 2. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter. Page 16 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Any Discussion? Sorry Ms. Eoff, go right ahead. MS. EOFF the higher valuation of property values. And I think I would like to ask Ms. Sako, if no one objects, to come forward and give us a brief overview of what some of the changes are, between Draft 1 and Draft 2. MS. SAKO: Hi. The real property tax values are certified in April, and so we did end up with CHR. KANUHA: Can you please re-state your name, sorry. MS. SAKO: Sorry. Deanna Sako, Director of Finance. And projects values were certified in April, and we did have additional $4 million in revenue. And that money was distributed to two primary locations. One being the Building Permit Improvements, which was distributed among Public Works, Environmental Management, Planning, Fire, and then the fringe benefits to pay for additional workers. And then the second additional area was transit. That was a big topic at the departmental reviews, including money for the transit plan. There were some other smaller amounts added for dealing with albizia and unsafe flora, as well as a couple other minor items, but those are the primary areas of increase. MS. EOFF: Thank you, Ms. Sako. And thank you for addressing the Mass Transit Master Plan, which like you said quite lengthy discussion. As well as the extra personnel, I think you mentioned it is in the Building Department for plan reviews? MS. SAKO: Yeah, I think there are several inspectors, as well as plan reviewers for Public Works, as well as two civil engineers for Environmental Management to help review the plans, and Fire Prevention Inspectors that would also be part of the permitting process. And then Planning would get three additional positions of Land Use Plan Checker III. Aadditional positions some of which were in addition to what we included in the March budget. And Parks and Recreation, the grant for the little fire ants will be ending, so they want to create the vector control specialist that will be able to continue to combat those issues. As well as some painters, and some caretakers, and recreation technicians for the Puna Regional Park when it opens later this next fiscal year. MS. EOFF: Thank you. One of the things I just wanted to emphasize is the attention that the budget does have for infrastructure, and keeping up with the in the past, ve seen in the past that I thie working to correct now. S Page 17 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE: Yeah, Deanna, you can hang out up here for a minute or two? MS. SAKO: My mistake. MS. WILLE: I just want to thank you and the Mayor, and department heads, for being as responsive, so quickly, to both the public comments during the last hearings and our discussion. I really felt that you were, you know, really took seriously what we were looking at. The permitting and looking at that, and the Mass Transit, and some of those positions that are in Environmental Management. I did just want to ask you a couple things, that has come up or concerns. One thing is, in terms of, ncerned, is in terms of the police, it would be a funded position that would help to link the police to the neighborhood watches, and in terms of increased safety. And there was a lot of testimony, needing additional patrolman or how to get that. And I kept thinking okay, maybe we should try to fund two more policeman. And then its Puna that needs them, I know in my district. And that, you know, each police officer is high cost, but I certainly felt that the work there are volunteers with neighborhood watch, where you get communities working together. And if there were some kind of ombudsman or actually paid person that was sort of linking those two, it would be valuable. along the exact same lines is in terms of housing issues. A few days ago I met with 30 or 40 seniors in elderly and low income housing about all of the problems that they . I mean this is just in my district as much as there were. And I think again, where you have different layers of government, you know, the federal and this a sort of an advocate. I am going to bring a housing bill forward suggesting some additional protection for people who are there. Especially for renewal of their leases, and under what conditions it can be cancelled. But a lot of the problems I felt really, where people were just so afraid, and have no one to talk to, and no one to sort of bridge them. So I just would like you to think about that, and help me think about what that would cost. And I think having someone in Housing would be good. I mean Housing has the structure right now, what they receive money for is somewhat limited, but those two. out a way. , as Greg Goodale and Director Leithead Todd said, we can only move recycling Page 18 -12 May 18, 2015 and the composting as quickly as we can get the different transfer sites ready to accept it. , an alternative place for it to go. I would like to talk to you more on that. way on the Hilo tourism, if Council Member Chung or anyone had ideas island-wide, or lava tourism. I got a email not long ago, you know, if there were things that we could do that would addanything that goes on that helps Hilo obviously pulls those tourists out of the resorts and through Waimea and the going to talk about where I see us taking tut those are the things just so you understand what I gone through. Okay, thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: Okay, first of all I wanted to thank the Administration and Finance, for setting money on the side for our Mass Transit Plan. The CIP really, really need. And it incorporates all of our districts, in getting all those specific ideas but there was suggestions that taskforce might be helpful in ll leave that. specific budget and positions I have. So may I have Deanna? And perhaps Public Works on the inspector side, and this is basicallyWarren if you would. The publicbuilding inspectors, electrical inspectors, you guys going increase four and four? its and stuff going forward. MR. LEE: Yeah, so our plan is to increase three building inspectors on the east side. MR. PALEKA: Three? Okay. MR. LEE: Two building inspectors on the west side, plumbing inspectors, one on the west side, and one on the east, plumbing. Electrical inspectors, two on the east, and two on the west, and add also three engineer-type plan reviewers. MR. PALEKA: Thank you. And this is going to help you guys get the permits out and completed more, or get our MR. LEE: This is going to help us actually. The permitting is designednew process is designed to make the permitting and construction go faster. MR. PALEKA: Thank you. Page 19 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. LEE MR. PALEKA: And then I noticed one Electrical Engineer II, is that for a specific purpose? MR. LEE: That Electrical Engineer, step II, so not two engineers just one engineer. MR. PALEKA: Step II, yeah. MR. LEE: Step II yeah, or rated that classification, yes. MR. PALEKAd on a need for your department, that and one electrical structural engineer? MR. LEE: One electrical, one structural, and one mechanical, yeah. MR. PALEKA: Okay. MR. LEE: That will assist in the plan review. Right now the plan review is conducted by two plan reviewers, and basically the inspectors supervisors. So by having this additional people, the inspector supervisors will be able to do more of the inspection coordination, to make sure that the work flow, construction flow, flows smoother, yeah. MR. PALEKA: To go from the planners engineers, and then the permit goes back out, and then the inspectors go out. MR. LEE MR. PALEKA: Perfect, I like it. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Any other discussion on the amendment, or the vote to amend to Draft 2? Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE: Okay. One question I have is in terms of the Counties funding of the Hilo golf course, and you know, sort of trying to weigh the pros and cons, and how much should be raised through fees, and how much should be wh taking it out of the General Fund. So were now taking funding that is over $400,000 a year. A-golf. And I think we all have things, whether rent things, or wbut I do think that if you look at where we spend money, I know we cut the subsidy program eliminated that for the west side, a amount to the golf course in half, and take that $200,000 and apply it elsewhere Page 20 -12 May 18, 2015 and ask them to raise their fees. In other words they can use those funds for half a year, and have half a year to figure out how to get more of the private contributions through fees and otherwise. hard and firm on any of this. I personally would have no problem eliminating , instead give it all of the Council and have each of us working on whatever legislation we want, or split that up and put that into our accounts. I think that HSAC has been veryin my view over the past three years, has not if anything, if we were to keep it, it should always go toshipped around every two years, s have one personns on nion. And I think that we each can promote our own interests individually, and therefore have nine different inputs. So again, g my thoughts. I think that the M budget should be eliminated. I know it was reduced. I d the Sister Cities in there it should be continued. The Research and Development has a $33,000 budget for Sister Cities, the Council has a $10,000 budget for Sister Cities, and I just think as a matter of principal that, that entertainment fund should be eliminated completely. Before my time is up, I just want to say is that in discussing the budget, ways, I think this would be a good totally separate discussion, and how our different taxes and incomes come in. Especially, you know, I really feel the next six months is critical to the financial future of the neighboring islands in particular with the TAT (Transient Accommodation Tax). not going to take up a lot of time on that right now, but I really feel strongly in terms of our taxing authority, and in terms of what we do asyou know, I worked on the Real Property Tax Taskforce. And I wondered, you know, about maybe expanding that to look at the whole array of potential taxes, or we come forward and we do it as a group, and we did the taskforce under the previous Council. But frankly, considering our last discussions, was working with the public members. And I think that we all have opinions, and could weigh in to it. So I just want to leave that open. So I have a lot of comments on that area, b going to hold up on doing that. B some point that we discuss how our income stream as a Council discussion. Thanks. Page 21 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Any other discussion, Council Members? Okay, Mr. Clerk, I want to take a roll call vote to amend to Draft 2. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 28 to Draft 2 was carried by to Amend: the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, and Chair Kanuha 7. Noes: Council Member Wille 1. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. Now on to amendments from other Council Members, I think Mr. Ilagan, please make the motion. Motion to Amend: Mr. Ilagan moved to amend Bill 28, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 143.10. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Council Members, I would like to explain the reason of this amendment. Why I thought of this amendment was during the districts. Like for example, Council Member Wille with her skate park, and in Hilo side with Council Member Chung, with roads. And on the Kona side we have recreation with Council Member Eoff, and Council Member Kanuha. The other districts with rural areas that really each Council Member understands the needs and the infrastructure that needs to happen and events and also other community group needs that need to be met. W And the reason why I chose R&D (Research and Development) and specifically the Energy Sustainability account, which currently has $180,000. And to actually half that amount leaving $90,000, which will increase $10,000 into each of your contingency funds, raising that to $100,000 per Council Member. And the reason why I chose Energy Sustainability, that account, was when I started looking into the Charter, the Charter creates the foundation of Department of Research and Development, and the powers and duties and functions, the first part is, ollect and develop data necessary for managerial and legislative decision-making, and program and policy-making. I felt that during the past month or so, other Council Members have been looking at energy alternatives or ways tofor example regarding geothermal, Council Member Paleka had a presentation that was up here. anything from our energy specialist regarding Page 22 -12 May 18, 2015 the main responsibility of R&D, which is to collect and develop data necessary t function and responsibility. The second part isrovide staff leadership for public, and private development programs, enterprises and plans, including economic, social and cultural proposals, which enhance and improve the county community. Well that provision leaving $90,000 into the Energy Sustainability, and with Will Rolston as the Energy Specialist, they are providing that staff leadership in the energy sector, so that is still intact. The last part isoordinate informational and regulatory knowledge of all federal and state grant-in-aid participation programs which affect the county. part of my amendment. So the first two I felt was key, which was the energy specialist and that area should be collecting and develop data necessary for legislative decision making, which we as the legislative body should be getting data to help us make better decisions. So I asked the R&D Director, what are the plans for these funds in the future? that I have one minute and 30 seconds. One of the things is that, the energy specialist is looking to represent residents, electric rate payers and County Government with the Haw Participate in the dockets, decoupling power supply, plans and merger regarding the next era important for us to really bring that forward to this legislative body, and we should be the one who is representing the residents on that end. Other things are, the , support leading renewable energy technology, into NELHA to continue some research and development. (inaudible) UH Hilo-HELCO partnership utility in the future. S I felt that it was stronger to focus, where each Council Members know what needs are in your area and to use that money in your area, rather than some of the projects that I see here. And this also helps prioritize what is important yield when I finish this one pointso the energy specialist would come to this legislative body and request the need for funds when that project is important. So I hope you will happy to answer them. Thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. Discussion, Council Members? Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE. I have been talking to a number of different parties, in putting together a potential Page 23 -12 May 18, 2015 panel to come to us on energy issues, so I felt that I should wait till after the budget is over to do so. But I do think, , I do feel that there are many opportunities right now. And there are many opportunities just for the County, and that we need to take a lead in this area. So just lending support. m hoping to hear what any others have to say. But I do know that I went to the last energy advisory board meeting, and one of my questions had to do with the newt remember, i Energythe one where you exchange light bulbs, and get reductions? And I talked to them about, ell what could we as a County do? and he said a lot, and then they turned to Will, and they said, I think you have to look to Margaret to be bringing that forward. So I do think that as long as the Council is open to looking at these things, I do think that we could take more of a lead in that area. So I am supportive, but listening to other comments. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Ms. Eoff. MS. EOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I agree that we should definitely be looking at energy sustainability seriously, good idea to take half of the budget away from that particular account. like to hear from Mr. Will Rolston. just wondering whether taking $90,000, which is half of his budget, away is actually a good thing to do. Because it may give each of us $10,000 more, but I as necessary as keeping his budget intact. Because the potential forpoken to him a number of times, a doing a lot of good work, very diligent and cutting edge. So I would like to hear from someone in Research and Development before I would support this, because 0 more to put into my district, but I know , as keeping the energy sustainability, or the coordinators budget intact. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. and Development, but is there anybody in Hilo from Research and Development? Or should we have the Finance, to answer a few of the questions or concerns that Ms. Eoff had? (Note: At this time, Finance Director Deanna Sako came forward to address the members of the Council.) MS. SAKO, sustainability. We can call Will or Kawehi and have them come forward, if we can hold off on this for a few more minutes. CHR. KANUHA Council Members, unless we just want to wait a few minutes, and we can get Page 24 -12 May 18, 2015 recess. Recess: At 3:59 p.m., the Chair called for a recess. Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 4:09 p.m. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, thank you for your patience. We are coming out of recess. (Note: At this time, Research and Development Director Kawehi Inaba came forward to address the members of the Council.) MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Director Inaba, first of all I just want to say this is not a reflection of your department. I feel that your department has been doing a great job with your current staff, and you been going out to the community and trying to get the funding to the people who really needs it. The reason why I introduced this, was becauseI looked at two issues, which was the needs in each Council Members district, compared to the current energy issues next year. And from what information you have showed meand also I just want to also say that sorry to bring this up in your first year when youre definitelyyoure probably caught up to what Will Rolston has been doing. has been doing things that is not even mentioned in what you have showed me. And he probably has done extra, other things within his capacity that is not brought up here, or you might not be aware, or I might not be aware. I just want to let you know, that I just felt that the needs of the district is far greater than another $90,000 for energy would be. And from eight projects that you showed me, I felt that it could be prioritized within the year, and next year continue with the rest that could not be met this year. So I just want to let you know that this amendment is not a reflection of your department at all. And this is just a way that I felt the needs of the districts was greater than a full funding of the current energy sustainability budget. So the Council Members have some questions, and please let them know everything that has been going on. Especially on this pot of money, thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. I know Ms. Eoff had a few questions for the department. MS. EOFF: I just was concerned that taking away half of the budget from that particular account, how that would affect the energy sustainability coordinators plans for the next fiscal year? And I actually thought about it in the exact opposite terms as Mr. Ilagan, because I felt like taking half of his budget was drastic. As maybe not as productive, as what we each could do with $10,000 Page 25 -12 May 18, 2015 more in our contingency funds. Because we do have $90,000 at this point, so the extra 10, I would love to use more in my district, b want to take away from the work I believe Will Rolston has in front of him. MS. INABA: Thank you. And thank you, for your overview of our department. I feel very confident in what Will Rolston has done, and will continue to do. We have a big list of initiatives on the table for this coming year, and with all due CHR. KANUHA: Sorry, can you just say your name for the record. MS. INABA: So sorry, Kawehi Inaba, Director of Research and Development. And so what I would like to do is quickly read through the proposed projects that we have coming up, so that you can all have an idea where this money would be spent. So the first project will be multiple renewable, which would include master request for proposals for photovoltaics takes at various County sites. The project goal of course to save electricity. The next project is Civil Defense Ready Systems. The description of that is emergency power generation asset inventory in state of readiness, project goal deployment of power systems for emergency management. oupling power supply plans, especially with the upcoming merger. The next era merger, this is going hire consultants to help us with this. The project goal of course would be to represent residents, electric rate payers, and County Government. The next project is the NELHA Energy Innovations Project, this would support leading renewable energy, technology, research and development, and deployment. This would support NELHA, as a frontier for our renewable energy research. Next project would be ASU, this is huge, and Jon Defries is working with us as a consultant. ASU, Arizona State University, has been having talks with us in regards to stepping in and using their expertise to help us in this renewable energy plan for what we have. For our future modeling in the island energy systems, and energy education. And the project goal would be to design and model optimal energy systems, so the partnership with them is huge. W and mass transit management. The project description for that would be renewable fuels for transportation, including telemetrics. Project goal is indigenous fuel for economic development and emergencies. Next project is energy efficiency and conservation. Top 10 County energy users retrofitted with energy efficient devices, and that would result in energy efficiency Page 26 -12 May 18, 2015 project implemented for electrical savings. And the last is the Hilo and Kona electric vehicle hub project. And this would help us with the additional EV chargers in Hilo and Kona, with potential for two fast EV chargers, for the fleet These projects are huge, and the budget that we have of $180,000 will definitely help us to get a lot of these going, and in the mix at the same time. counting what Will is doing right now. So I guess for me I am concerned about cutting the budget by 50 percent. I wish that I had a little bit more time, because I think that it would have been beneficial if Will could have been here to explain this. H upon what I know. If you feel that $10,000 each for your contingency funds will be able to have an impact, such as we would with this existing plan, have at it I guess. But at this point right now, I look at this and realize how much we have to do, and how much we can support the County, and $180,000 doe enough, you know. B MS. EOFF: Thank you very much for that, Kawehi. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Council Members, discussion? First round or second round? Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I also want to point out that if you come to us, and say, e realize that out of the $90,000, we need an extra $30,000. And we as the nine members could chime in and put that money in, that. And when I was looking through some of the projects, there was also like ulbs. That was funding from another source, I believe it was either State or Federal. getting funds other places. So the Council Members understand that I just feel the priority in our areas, in our Puna, I would like to see the electricity go down. It would help everyone, but what I realize ian independent energy provider . He has the money, definitely. He could have more, and that he could definitely do more. I just feel like next year with $10,000 extra, we can definitely help more in our districts. Not just Page 27 -12 May 18, 2015 focused on energy, but all the other social problems, infrastructure problems, roads, parks, recreation, mass transit. I feel And I hope and I know that your beingjust getting into R&D, this is the last thing you should be confronted with, b an extra $10,000 that can go to other organizations and needs in that area. MS. INABA way this would behave anything to do our personal relationship for within this department. So you knoof everything. And again, I only wish that Will were here, because you folks might have a better solid idea on how important it is. I guess that what I was thinking you were going to do is take the $10,000 and do something with that in energy whatever you feel would be beneficial. So you know, I understand that a little bit more. But I still want to keep my budget just the way it is. So just saying. I mean, I got to fight for what I see, and what I believe here. And what I seen over the last three months, and what I believe we can do. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah. CHR. KANUHA: Oh, sorry. Ms. David was there first, and thensorry. MS. DAVID: Aloha, Ms. Inaba. And thank you for coming, and explaining your departments energy requirements. And I also am sorry that Mr. Rolston is not here. easing your budget. As Ms. Eoff mentioned, to give our districts $10,000 more, we could use the money, but I just feel like with this shortI know this is the time to do it, but I would have loved to think that further discussions were held before this came to us. So right now, I really have reservations about supporting this at this time, given the information CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. David. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah. When does Will come back? MS. INABA MS. POINDEXTER: Okay. So if we postpone this to be able to hear his argument on why he should maintain itbecause to tell you the truth, I was going to support, because I know what things I could do in my district that is desperately needed. But however, after hearing you, I would love to hear from Will to be able Page 28 -12 May 18, 2015 to make a well thought out decision. A postpone this or not. Thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE: a little conflicted about this. But one thing I felt, and including with energy is somewhat not a very close relationship with R&D in the speaking myself, you know, having the Committee on Agriculture, Energy, Water, so overlaps. But you know, when I brought up a bill or resolution to do more renewable on the County properties, and it was Will who opposed that bill, and saying that this would be a loss to HELCO profits, and therefore others would have to pay for it. So you know, I was at complete odds. I also felt with the Energy Commission, and the Ag commission as well as some hostility. been told, that your department told the commission, do not communicate directly with Council Members. They need to come to the department. That was David Tarnas from my district. I also always wondered in terms of those commission is were the M could go on with examples. Bo hear of these energy saying I haveeven in many ways. In agriculture, when I worked with the University of H your department to help me send out a notice to farmers, I mean it was blocking. It was like, S of a history there of not working on energy issues with us. I think even like ons. And he was blocked from being on the Energy Commission, you know, and people. S ing that. aring some of my sentiments, and I try to go to a number of these commission meetings. And I feel , as I would like, especially agriculture and energy. I would like to hear from Will, and I think this is a good discussion to with them. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Discussion, Council Members? I just discus increase our contingency budget, we do a lot in the communities. We do get Page 29 -12 May 18, 2015 down, and you know, down within the communities. So people come to us for these small little things, and all these small little things do help out. And we can distribute district funds for these certain types of reasons, and Mr. Ilagan you heard from Council Members. a few are hesitant. I think we should talk to Mr. Rolston and hear from the need of, too, of these funds from them. important. I think that should be the best direction at this point. ally want to vote for it today, b amendment to possibility go through. So just with that hesitation, I thinkbut also hesitant, I want to hear from Will, and not really take away half the budget without hearing from him when he doing a lot of these programs. So Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. For these eight programs that you mentioned, it would really help to have a price tag on them. Like to estimate how much they would cost realistically. That way then we would understand how much he would really need regarding which one is more important. At the same time if he can even prioritize which ones are important, because currently right now there not prioritized. And so we have an understanding, if we should half that pot of money. ng away hether or not Will is here, important because of the needs in our areas. And Will is going to be here of course, should be defending, and should be making his argument as best as he can. I feel looking through this, and understanding some of the renewable potential herew50 percent renewable by the way, Will the County using this energy sustainability fund $90,000 in the pot of R&D, help move us forward? I feel like we are going to move forward without that funds, and I feel those funds could be used in our districtow if I wait for the and I feel like I would rather just fail now, because I am going with what I believe in, which is the needs in our area, than wait next time around knowing everything here I would like to do. Nobody can disagree with that. We would like to see all this happen. We would like to see more energy cost savings. I just feel like, I also want to help take care of the homeless in my area. Put in some social one- stop services in my district. I also want to see more recreation in other areas, and take care some of the maintenance in the west side or the east side. Page 30 -12 May 18, 2015 S ing to be spent for good things. So I am going to just go through with this. If it fails, it fails, if it passes, it is sustainability fund from $180,000 to $90,000. They also have $33,000 on RFP. I feel they have enough money. We still rather see Will, bthis through, and go for a vote, and if fails, I can live with that, and I respect your decision, and thank you for considering my amendment. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG to support the amendment. I think Mr. Ilagan has made a very, well thoughtful presentation he just gave. But I got to tell you, Mr. Ilagan, I t a technical error. You know, I think both Ms. Poindexter and Mr. Kanuha hinted in concept, they maybe in favor of this, but they still would like to hear from Mr. Rolston. And you know, I just think tactically you might be losing the battle on this one, you know. T CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah. My concern Council Member Ilagan, is that I would like to question the use of the energy efficiency like at the Lauphoehoe Pool, which we are desperately trying to get that pool taken care of. And if part of this money is for that and I can get 10,000. I and which , those areas that desperately need, you know, could be the solar panels, or those things to heat the water, I forget what the other name of that rubber matting on the roofs are. So talking to R&D to get that answer would make me feel comfortable. If he says way, because I want the money for my Lauphoehoe Pool, you know, and I need it. Ss not in that, then definitely Because I need that for my district. So I ask again, would reconsider. Thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: You know, in terms of energy and sustainability account, and the money and items that were listed. Kawehi, thank you so much for bringing up those proposed projects, and the fleet that Mass Transityou know, I can hear Page 31 -12 May 18, 2015 what my good friend Councilman Ilagan is saying, that you know, it might be incumbent on the workers of those departments to take those steps in bringing us. and sustainability. Again, we heard Councilman saying that we need to move forward sustainability and maybe bringing it out from the sustainability account and giving it to the respective Council Members, they might use it to that effect. But I would echo and ask my friend to perhapsat least we hear. Because, you know me, I like to hear people first, and to give them the opportunity. And I kindly ask to give Mr. Rolston the opportunity, and you do what you want brada. But hopefully, you know, I would want to hear it, and because, Kawehi, grant coordination for us is part of your department too, yeah? Because we need them too, to work with us in terms of getting grants, because I would like to see mass transit be funded by grants. And a lot o to be funded by grants because ther, federal and other important, perhaps giving Mr. Rolston an opportunity, and I yield at this time. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Thank you. To add some levity to the discussion, and piggy-backing what Ms. Poindexter just told all of us. I would be very surprised uphoehoe pool into his program. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. David. MS. DAVID: Yes, really quickly. And I do respect your desire Mr. Ilagan, to move forward with this. But as expressed by Ms. Poindexter and the rest, I do not feel comfortable at this point. And you mentioned the fact that you would want to have Mr. Rolston attach amounts to the projects, as well as a prioritization of those projects. So I believe he would be the only one that could answer those questions, and clarify your concerns. So I would prefer to wait, and I respectfully ask that you consider postponing this. Mahalo. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Council Members for your input. I just have to say a couple of things, before I make my decision. And one of them, I just wanted to mention is that, everything that we do is a political move. And Council Member Chung mentioned that tactically, politically, I am really looking to make this fail bse for me. But I look at this as a win-win, regardless if it fails or not, because you get more money it resource he has on energy. Page 32 -12 May 18, 2015 correct? So if this fails, the energy department is going to be better. If this passes, each of our district has and will fulfill a need that each Council Member feels needs to be met. And Will will make every with that, becaus-win. And after this fails, if it does, I will put up a communication saying Will, could you please describe these projects and how we can get involved? , regardless if this . and if this dies right now, Will can focus on his job and do what he needs to best. If this passes we can move on to what we need to do. So to help everyone here, and to just end this right now, right here sink about it, and move forward, I a-win, energy prosper. If this pass we get to help our community more, because we feel that this part i to hear Will Rolston answers. But I feel li what CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Thank you, for giving me the third opportunity to speak. And again, know, the thing about it is this, the win-win is still going to exist two weeks from be thinking about this for the next two weeko I would still urge you to try to, you defer. Maybe let Mr. Onishi come and weigh in on this thing. But thank you very much. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. That was going to be my next suggestion, to throw Mr. Onishi inside. That I would love for him to vote on this, and have the opportunity to debate with us as well. Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: I move to postpone Communication 143.1 to the next budget hearing, so we can hear Council Member Onishi point of view. And rest assure, answer the questions that my fellow Council Members have. CHR. KANUHA: Before I accept that motion, Mr. Ilagan. I think the best choice will be on the next Council agenda. And so that we can vote on Bill 28, Draft 2. Withdraw Motion Mr. Ilagan announced the withdrawal of Comm. 143.10. to Amend: Page 33 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. MR. HENRICKS: Mr. Chair, can I just say, so the record reflects Mr. Ilagan withdraws his motion to amend with that communication. CHR. KANUHA: Sorry, the motion yes, he withdraws his motion to amend. eing that oh, Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to say when throughout my two and half yeao say, this budget proposal has been one of theI feel balancehas looked at all the different districts and really put the funding where all the districts benefitted. I honestly can say that with this budget. And I really want to give the respect to the Mayor and the departments, and the Finance Department for facilitating that. And under your leadership, . And I had to voice that out, and show my appreciation to you. And of course you too, the Deputy. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. Okay, we can move on toyes, Mr. Clerk, can we move on to? MS. WILLE: Can I ask a quick question? CHR. KANUHA: Oh, yes. Ms. Wille, go right ahead. MS. WILLE: Can I just ask Director, are we in the PUC, any of the dockets, and is the County an intervener at this time? MS. INABA: I would have to answer, probably yes. But again, to defer that question to Will. There a lot going on in regards to PUC dockets. that to Will. And he can answer a lot of that when he comes to MS. WILLErward what our position is. What is our position? an intervener what position were taking, or in any way. So okay, thank you. MS. INABA CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. I think we voted on to amend to Draft 2, so we can MR. HENRICKS: Sorry we need toa vote on Draft 2 on first reading, with the expectation that it would go on to second reading. Page 34 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Okay. MR. HENRICKS: Right, but perhaps not. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, Ms. Eoff. Make it brief, please. MS. EOFF: Yeah, really brief. But thank you, Mr. Chair. And just before we do vote on this I also just wanted to echo the sentiments of Councilman Ilagan, , ther Administration has been very responsive to some of the comments and concerns by the Council Members. So I would just like to be grateful for being part of that process. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, thank you very much. Okay, Mr. Clerk, take a vote? MR. HENRICKS: Yes, the vote is to pass Bill 28, Draft 2, at first reading. CHR. KANUHA: Okay. Vote on Bill 28 The motion to pass Bill 28, Draft 2, on first reading and Draft 2: adopt Finance Committee Report No. 25 was carried by the (Approved) following roll call vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, and Chair Kanuha 7. Noes: Council Member Wille 1. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. Okay, now are on to Bill 29? MR. HENRICKS: Yes, and again, with your indulgence I would like to just read the bill itself, and the related attachments all at one time. So we can just go through all the different motions. CHR. KANUHA: Sounds great. MR. HENRICKS: Okay, bear with me. Page 35 -12 May 18, 2015 Bill 29: RELATES TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2015, TO JUNE 30, 2016 From Mayor William P. Kenoi, dated February 27, 2015, transmitting the proposed Capital Budget for FY 2015-2016, and the Capital Program for the next six years from FY 2015-16 to 2020-21, which includes 37 projects requiring a total appropriation of $81.67 million. Approximately $55.94 million are intended to be funded in whole or part by bonds, $25.23 million to be funded by the State Revolving Loan Fund, and $500,000 to be funded by private contributions. Reference: Comm. 144 Intr. by: Ms. Eoff Approve: FC-26 ; and Comm. 144.1: From Mayor William P. Kenoi, dated May 5, 2015, transmitting Bill 29, Draft 2. Draft 2 proposes 44 projects requiring a total appropriation of $91.257 million. ; and Bill 29 RELATES TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF FOR (Draft 2): THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2015, TO JUNE 30, 2016 Proposed Capital Budget for fiscal year ending June 30, 2016, requires a total appropriation of $91.257 million, of which approximately $64.525 million are intended to be funded in whole or part by bonds, $25.232 million are to be funded by the State Revolving Loan Fund, $.5 million are to be funded by private grants, and $1 million are to be funded by fair share contributions. Intr. by: Ms. Eoff ; and Comm. 144.2: From Council 6, 2015, transmitting (Memo. No. 1) proposed amendments to add the Parks and Recreation Improvements project in the amount of $2.245 million. ; and Comm. 144.3: From Council Member , 2015, transmitting (Memo. No. 2) proposed amendments to Avenue Improvements project in the amount of $2.5 million. ; and Page 36 -12 May 18, 2015 Comm. 144.4: From Council Member Daniel K. Paleka, Jr., dated May 6, 2015, transmitting (Memo. No. 3) proposed amendments to s Transit Master Plan project in the amount of $500,000. ; and Comm. 144.5: From Council Member Aaron S. Y. Chung, dated May 7, 2015, transmitting (Memo. No. 4) proposed amendments to Avenue Road Safety and Drainage Control project in the amount of $43 million. ; and Comm. 144.6: From Council Member Aaron S. Y. Chung, dated May 8, 2015, transmitting (Memo. No. 5) proposed amendments to Landing Park Improvements project in the amount of $500,000. Motion to Approve: Ms. Eoff moved to pass Bill 29 on first reading and adopt Finance Committee Report No. 26. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter. CHR. KANUHA: Pursuant to Article 10, Section 10-2(a) of the Charter. The Mayor has submitted an amended Capital Budget to the Council on May 5, 2015. Any discussion before we move on to the proposed Draft 2? Okay, may I have a motion to amend Bill 29 with Draft 2 as submitted by the Mayor? Motion to Amend: Ms. Poindexter moved to amend Bill 29 to Draft 2. Seconded by Ms. Eoff. CHR. KANUHA: Any discussion on the proposed Draft 2? Okay, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29 to Draft 2 was carried by the to Amend: following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you very much, motion passes. Bill 29 is amended to Draft 2. Lthe amendments. I think first we have from Council Member Mr. Onishi, go right ahead. Page 37 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I was asked by Mr. Onishi to make this amendment. I guess, what is it, close file on Comm. 144.2 and to amend? MR. HENRICKSjust to say, to amend the Capital Improvement Budget, Draft 2, with 144.2. Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.2. Seconded by Ms. David. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Chung, go right ahead. MR. CHUNG: Yeah, well, you know, I re because I just learned this morning, that I had to make this motion. But I am Park. And I understand also that it suffers from the lack of lighting, which hampers the ability understanding that a lot of the fencing is in disrepair. So you know, they want to put up more lights, and they want to also do general repairs on that much used community park. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, thank you, Mr. Chung. Any other discussion? Okay, hearing or seeing none, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.2 was carried by the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. Okay, now on to Communication 144.3 by Mr. Onishi. Mr. Chung, can I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of 144.3? Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.3. Seconded by Mr. Paleka. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Mr. Chairman, based on my understanding this improvement, which is going to be from generally, I think, around the area of the Ponds Restaurant all the way to Kauhane in Keaukaay Page 38 -12 May 18, 2015 vision of having this long promenade basically from the wharf all the way into the downtown area. So this is just one component, I think this is a terrific project quite frankly. And on behalf of Mr. Onishi, I ask for all of your support. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: Yeah, I just like to echo my support for this project for Kalaniana affect the Hilo tourism market; and not only that, but for the locals, you know, to use. It goes from the wharf pass all the way into Keaukaha, down to Banyan w oing to be made for the Department of Transportation at the wharf side. As they expand the wharf area, CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Any other discussion? Okay, hearing or seeing none, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.3, was carried by the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. On to the next Communication, 144.4. Mr. Paleka may I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.4. Motion to Amend: Mr. Paleka moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.4. Seconded by Ms. David. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Paleka, you have the floor. MR. PALEKAve discussed this matter, I think that we all agree that this is a long overdue master plan that we need for our entire island. T why I thought it was important that we really get going on this and incorporate all our districts, and have a nice blueprint for our Mass Transit system of the future. Mahalo. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Mr. Chung. Oh, anybody? Mr. Ilagan. Page 39 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. ILAGAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just couple of sentences. I this go through. I know Council Member Paleka has been pushing this, and just great to see it. I just wanted to say that. Good job. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. I also just wanted to echo the sentiments from Mr. Ilagan. Mahalo Mr. Paleka. I think this is absolutely necessary moving forward, and the Administration of course. Mahalo. So Mr. Clerk, the vote. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents to Amend of Comm. 144.4, was carried by the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. Next communication, Mr. Chung, may I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.5? Motion to Amend Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.5. Seconded by Mr. Paleka. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Yes, Mr. Chairman, coming off the heels of a $500,000 appropriation, and moving into a $43 million appropriation. I feel kind of embarrassed. But so that his is really time, okay, and I got the okay. I think he ran away, Mr. Lee, but he did say yes, this is the amount. But just bear in mind that close to getting this thing going, I think most of you are familiar with that area. On Wainuenue Avenue, which just around past the hospital all the way up, i kind of dangerous, no shoulders. W re going to bury the pipes and somehow divert it. This is where the engineers come into play. But this is going to be a huge project, but it is in conjunction with the Federal Government. And I think if it does come to fruition, to be really, really nice. So you know, I ust Page 40 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I just want to say that 34 million is actually banking on the Federal amount, right? MR. CHUNG: Correctederal funds. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, so I just wanted the public to know that, because I think, h, you asking the feds for maybe $2 million. But I think they would have access to this as well, but just to make it easy on them that $8 million. Thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Any other discussion? Hearing or seeing none, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.5 was carried by the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. On the next one, Mr. Chung, may I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.6? Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.6. Seconded by Ms. David. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Okay, this is a more humble amount. I think most of you are nuenue Avenue right by Cronies Bar and Grill. R. This has really been a subject of a lot of community work, over many years. And the people who are involved in that are very prominent, like Sig Zane, Stan Lawrence, Owen Koehnen. You know, these people have just taken on this parcel nd you know, this is going to provide them a way of getting out of the surf, when it does get up there. as some showers. And you know, I think this was really the M Page 41 -12 May 18, 2015 giving credit to the hard work that these community peop vehicle to get the appropriation in, but you know, really a lot of credit has to go to the M CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, and I just wanted to say thank you for bringing this forward. Because we did hear from the community about needing to have this phase completed. So you know, thank you for bringing that forward because I think it is needed. Ssupporting it. Thank you. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. Any other discussion? Hearing or seeing none, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.6, was carried by the following roll call vote: (Approved) Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Next communication Mr. Chung may I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.7. Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.7. Seconded by Mr. Paleka. MR. CHUNG: Yes, Mr. Chairman. You know, I think during the course of our alked to members of the public, I as improved tennis facilities. Now this $2 million, only a little bit of it is going to be for my district. Mohouli Park just resurfacing, and just a few lights at Lincoln Park. But everything else is really for the rest of the island, yeah. This is an island-wide appropriation. should bump it up to $2.5 million, you know. A get the money. It really comes down to whether we can find the money, but Mr. Clerk, would it possible to bump this up to $2.5 million without any kind of communication? MR. HENRICKS: Yeah, I believe you could make a motion to amend your Page 42 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. CHUNG: I mean does anybody need stuff in their district? Okay, well you know what then, MS. POINDEXTER: Can I answer? MR. CHUNG: Sure. MS. POINDEXTER: I have several tennis courts that I was wanting to get resurfaced. So by you doing this, it saves me some time and work. MR. CHUNG-wide. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, thank you. MR. CHUNG: So what you want $3 million, $4 million? Anybody, what? Threelets go $3 million. So to amend the amendment, to provide for $3 million. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Clerk, I want to just be clear, if we do it to $3 million will we have to put where the funding exactly is going to go for, or can we just MR. HENRICKSy assumption would be that the entire amount of funding would remain from the County in the form of bonds. And then the sheet youre looking at, would then reflect that change from $2 to $3 million. Unless Mr. Chung, has a different concept of where that additional million would come from. Good clarification. CHR. KANUHA: Okay. MR. HENRICKS, with same source of revenue. CHR. KANUHA: Yes. MR. HENRICKS: Okay, very good. Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Comm. 144.7 by changing the appropriation amount to $3 million. Seconded by Mr. Ilagan. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Clerk, do we have to vote onwe have to vote on that right? MR. HENRICKS: with that. Hang on just a second. Before we take the vote, if Mr. Chung could Page 43 -12 May 18, 2015 just reference the financial impact statement. We have broken down right now is a breakdown of $2.5 million for planning, $2.5 million for design and survey and $1.5 million for construction. So it may be best to indicate where that additional $1 million would be specifically appropriated towards. MR. CHUNG MR. HENRICKS floor right now, is to change the construction value to $2.5 million and the other value is to remain the same for planning and design and survey. MR. CHUNG: Not by $2.5. MR. HENRICKS: No, for a total of $2.5. MR. CHUNG: Right, correct. MR. HENRICKS: For a ultimate total of $3 million. MR. CHUNG: Yes. MR. HENRICKS: And that is the amendment of floor, now. CHR. KANUHA: floor. Okay, voting on. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Comm. 144.7 by changing the to Amend: appropriation amount to $3 million was carried by the (Approved) following roll call vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, so Communication 144.7 is amended. Now on to the main Point of MR. CHUNG: Point of Information Information: CHR. KANUHA: Yes. Page 44 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. CHUNG: So were we voting on the amendment to the amendment just now? MR. HENRICKS: No, the vote that occurred only basically changes your amendment. Now the vote will be to approve your amendment. MR. CHUNG: Oh, okay. MR. HENRICKS: As just MR. CHUNG: So, one more vote. MR. HENRICKS: One more vote, just on the tennis issue. CHR. KANUHA: Thanks for the clarification. Any other discussion on the Communication 144.7 as amended? Ms. Wille. MS. WILLEthink going forward with the different tennis courts, it would behoove us to help form community groups that would help care for the maintenance, and keep it up. Sort of along the line I see of the golf course. I think that we can get it ready to go, good condition, but that we need to not be there, you know, doing all of the maintenance. We neow youve got to take of it. And m be put away, and all that. So I am again supportive, but I that we as a County are just carrying all of that caretaking going forward. That we need to work with partnership with the communities, so. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Wille. Ms. David. MS. DAVID: Really quickly, I just wanted to say thank you, to Council Member Chung for doing this, b tennis courts that are in really bad repair. Thank you very much. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. David. Any other discussion? I did want to say real quickly, this money is desperately needed. I know like our whole district , s basically at Old Airport. Heavily used, there are going to be more tennis courts with the upcoming improvements for Makaeo with private funding, so hopefully we can get that, which is nice. I nice to always use private funding to build those new tennis courts. But around the whole island, I mean so many people play tennis. Going off with Ms. Wille, I s happening in my district. Page 45 -12 May 18, 2015 There is a Friends of the Tennis Courts that do take care of the courts, they do clean it off all the time. They even get the Fire Department to come down and wash it off every once and a while, every few months. It does build up a lot of sand, so you know, a lot of community help does go a long way, and make these facilities last. So thank you, Mr. Chung for bringing this CIP forward. Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.7, as amended, was carried by the following roll (Approved) call vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. On to the next one. Mr. Chung, may I have a motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Communication 144.8. Motion to Amend: Mr. Chung moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.8. Seconded by Mr. Paleka. CHR. KANUHA: Mr. Chung. MR. CHUNG: Thank you again, Mr. Chairman. You know, this is another mind blowing one, $20 million. I just kind of came up with that amount, but really this is design to help both your-Kona? CHR. KANUHA MR. CHUNG: Kona. CHR. KANUHA: Yeah. MR. CHUNG: Kona and Hilo, possibly Waimea. I mean, because this is for urban parking. But I can only speak for Downtown Hilo. And you know, the Downtown Improvement Association has told me in no uncertain terms, that parking is the number one issue for them. all these other things, but parking is crucial for the know where we can find the land, but it might involve some private-public partnerships. Some people have talked about utilizing some part of the land, and entering into a partnership with the owners of the Hilo Hotel for a possible, even parking structure. Page 46 -12 May 18, 2015 at kind of stuff on this island. But you know, we really eef this thing up to $20 million. , a float, but at some point we want to position ourselves in the event that we can move on this. And I just ask for your sup-wide ramifications, I think. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Ms. Poindexter. MS. POINDEXTER: just ask, when you talk about parking, like w D talking about trying to improve parking for that area as well? MR. CHUNG: Well, trying to get more parking. MS. POINDEXTER: More parking, okay. Because I would like to say that in s been a major problem for us. MR. CHUNG: If you want, Ms. Poindexter, I mean we can either consider that as being urban, or we can take out the word urban. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I would say take out the word urban. Because s a lot of pockets through. MR. CHUNG: Sure, island-wide parking. MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, thank you. If you could take out the word urban and just putyeah. MR. CHUNG: Is that okay, can that be considered a friendly amendment, Mr. Henricks? MR. HENRICKS MR. CHUNG: Yes. And that really was the intent to help, you know, the island, of course there were certain places that we were focusing on, but. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: I would like to second that amendment for the island-wide, because there are places in Phoa that are under consideration for acquisition. And you know, if it was island-wide, it would give us a little bit more scope in terms of where we can utilize that parking. But I know in our district, or Greggor and myself that is one area they really want to work on. Thank you. Page 47 -12 May 18, 2015 MR. CHUNG: Can I just? CHR. KANUHA: Yeah. Mr. Chung, go right ahead. MR. CHUNG: You know, really when you think about it Mr. Paleka, Ms. Poindexter, and all of you have spoken at one time or another about the need to improve our mass transit. So this could actually tie into all of that. You know, you can have parking areas in conjunction with an improved mass transit system. So you know, maybe it could be used in that regard too. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you. Mr. Ilagan. MR. ILAGAN: I just wanted to ditto, Council Member Paleka and Council Member Chung. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, Ms. Wille. MS. WILLE: ed Design). CHR. KANUHA: Yes we are. going to do this, because I mean throughout the descriptions, it does say just specifically urban Kona and Hilo. And MR. CHUNG: Well then, you want me to come up withreintroduce? CHR. KANUHA: Yeah, I think that would be the MR. CHUNG rd MR. HENRICKS: Yes, we can do this again on June 3. MR. CHUNG: Okay, and make it an island-wide initiative. MR. HENRICKS: Yes, you can revise the FIS (Financial Impact Statement) and everything else to reflect the conversation. MR. CHUNG: So I make a motion to withdraw, or just withdraw? CHR. KANUHA: Just withdraw. Withdraw Motion Mr. Chung announced the withdrawal of Comm. 144.8. to Amend: Page 48 -12 May 18, 2015 CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Where were we, 144.8 has been withdrawn. MR. ILAGAN: Mr. Chair? If you could just provide a leeway regarding, because we justI think Council Member Paleka and I feel that there is a certain amendment, that if you could going to add in P CHR. KANUHA: -wide. Thank you, Mr. Ilagan. , the motion has been withdrawn, right? Okay, moving on to the next , may I have a motion amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.9? Motion to Amend: Ms. Eoff moved to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of Comm. 144.9. Seconded by Mr. Paleka. CHR. KANUHA: Ms. Eoff. MS. EOFF: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. This is a section of Henry Street, between Palani Road and Queen Kaahumanu Highway. Which many of my constituents have contacted me about the need to do improvements there. So I about a 2,000 foot distance, and it would include resurfacing, restructuring, and a left turn lane at Palani Road intersection. It is consistent with our County General Plan regarding roadway systems. And I ask for your support. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Any other discussion? Just want to say, to now vote for it on the CIP. Desperately needed in that area. I mean, heavily used, just to increase the flow of traffic and make sure that everybody is safe. So thanks, Ms. Eoff. MS. EOFF: And Mr. Kanuha? CHR. KANUHA: Yeah. MS. EOFF: I thinkwell this is the portion from Ane Keohoklole down to Queen Kaahumanu Highway. CHR. KANUHA: Yeah. MS. EOFFof it down to CHR. KANUHA: Nope, not the road, just the light. Page 49 -12 May 18, 2015 MS. EOFF: Oh, the light, okay, then that would be CHR. KANUHA: Which is already in the budget. MS. EOFF: Okay, that would be good then. CHR. KANUHA: I think, I hope. Thank you, Ms. Eoff. Any other discussion? Okay hearing or seeing none, Mr. Clerk. Vote on Motion The motion to amend Bill 29, Draft 2, with the contents of to Amend: Comm. 144.9, was carried by the following (Approved) roll call vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA communication, Mr. Clerk, as I believe. MR. HENRICKS: Sure, correct. CHR. KANUHA: Okay, now , Draft 2, as amended. MR. HENRICKS: Correct. CHR. KANUHA: Any discussion? Mr. Paleka. MR. PALEKA: I just have a minor discussion. In terms of thesince introduced so munch Capital Improvement Bonds. I just want to reach out to the people that want to invest. Invest in your County. Thank you very much. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, Mr. Paleka. Any other discussion? Okay, Mr. Clerk, on the motion. Page 50 -12 May 18, 2015 Vote on Bill 29 The motion to pass Bill 29, Draft 2, as amended, and adopt (Draft 3): Finance Committee Report No. 26 was carried by the (Approved) following roll call vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: Thank you, motion passes. Bill 29, Draft 2, as amended to Draft 3, passes first reading and moves forward for second and final reading scheduled for June 1, 2015, okay, now do we adjourn or do we? MR. HENRICKS: A motion to adjourn. REFERRALS The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, FOR EXECUTIVE Referrals for Executive Session. SESSION: (There were none.) OTHER The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, Other BUSINESS: Business. (There was none.) ANNOUNCE- The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of business, MENTS: Announcements. (There were none.) CHR. KANUHA: May I have a motion to adjourn? Page 51 Hawai`i County Council-12 May 18, 2015 ADJOURN- There being no other business, at 5:19 p.m., Ms. Poindexter moved to adjourn MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Ms. David and carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Council Members Chung, David, Eoff, Ilagan, Paleka, Poindexter, Wille, and Chair Kanuha— 8. Noes: None. Absent: Council Member Onishi— 1. Excused: None. CHR. KANUHA: We are adjourned. MAY 0 3 2017 Council Approval: • , COUNT CLERK SM/j a/rk Page 52