HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PWPRC 2017/11/14 2016-2018COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS AND
PARKS AND RECREATION
111h Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
November 14, 2017
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Public Works and Parks and
ORDER: Recreation was called to order at 9:21 a.m., in the Council Chambers,
Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Jennifer Ruggles, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Jennifer Ruggles, Chair
Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Vice Chair
Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member
Ms. Karen Eoff, Member
Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms. Eileen O'Hara, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The Chair called Kalani Kahalioumi, who registered to speak in support of
Communication 586, and came forward when called.
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 570: NOMINATION OF DEBRA LEWIS TO THE VETERANS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated October 25, 2017, submitting for the Council's
review and confirmation the above nomination.
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Vote on Comm. 570: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) appointment of Ms. Debra Lewis to the Veterans Advisory
Committee. Seconded by Ms. Eoff and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. RUGGLES: Motion carries.
Comm. 571: NOMINATION OF MARCIA BRINKLEY TO THE VETERANS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated October 25, 2017, submitting for the Council's
review and confirmation the above nomination.
Vote on Comm. 571: Mr. Richards moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) appointment of Ms. Marcia Brinkley to the Veterans Advisory
Committee. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
MS. RUGGLES: Motion carries.
Comm. 572: NOMINATION OF CAROLLE BRULEE-WILSON TO THE VETERANS
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated October 25, 2017, submitting for the Council's
review and confirmation the above nomination.
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Vote on Comm. 572: Mr. Kanuha moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) appointment of Ms. Carolle Brulee-Wilson to the Veterans
Advisory Committee. Seconded by Ms. Eoff and carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. RUGGLES: Motion carries.
Committee Members spoke in favor of the above appointments. Chair Ruggles
informed each nominee that they do not need to appear before full Council for
final confirmation.
CHR. RUGGLES: I'm going to call a five-minute recess first, to prepare for the
presentation.
Recess: At 10:07 a.m., the Chair called for a recess.
Reconvene: The meeting reconvened at 10:14 a.m.
CHR. RUGGLES: Okay, I'm going to call this meeting out of recess. Mr. Clerk,
if we could go to Communication 586.
Comm. 586: REQUESTS A PRESENTATION AND UPDATE BY CHAD KALEPA BABAYAN,
PWO NAVIGATOR, REGARDING HOKULEA` S "MAHALO HAWAII SAIL"
SCHEDULED FOR 2018 ON HAWAII ISLAND
From Council Member Karen Eoff, dated October 18, 2017.
(Note: Comm. 586.1, from Council Member Karen Eoff dated November 7, 2017,
transmitting PowerPoint presentation material provided by Chad Kalepa Babayan,
was circulated.)
Motion to Close File: Ms. Eoff moved to close file on Comm. 586. Seconded by
Ms. David.
(Note: At this time, Mr. Chad Kalepa Babayan, Native Practitioner and
PWO Navigator, came forward to address the Members of the
Committee.)
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MR. BABAYAN: My name is Kalepa Babayan. I'm the navigator and resident
of the `Imiloa Astronomy Center. I also had the privilege of serving as a sail
master, captain, and navigator on 1-16kule`a's two -year-long voyage.
(Note: At this time, Mr. Babayan provided a PowerPoint presentation
regarding the update on H6kule`a's "Mahalo Hawaii Sail" scheduled to
take place in 2018 on the Big Island. For viewing of the subject
presentation, please see the DVD copy of the meeting proceedings on file
in the Clerk's Office. A hard copy of the presentation is made a part of
the record, see Comm. 586.1.)
MR. BABAYAN: If you have any questions, I can answer it now.
CHR. RUGGLES: Great, thank you. Are there any questions or comments?
Ms. Eoff.
MS. EOFF: Thank you. Mahalo, Kalepa, for the update. As you know, several
of us have contributed funds to the Friends of H6kule`a and Hikianalia. Just
continue to reach to us for the funding part of it.
As far as logistics, I'll definitely be happy to work with you and figure out how to
organize the cultural educational fair, and maybe some other outreach
opportunities while you're on this side.
MR. BABAYAN: Alright. Thank you.
MS. EOFF: I'll volunteer my husband too at this point.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Yes, thank you. Mahalo nui, Kalepa. Thank you for your
presentation because we were wondering, if this is going to be such a huge
endeavor, that I want to also offer my assistance on Kona side with Karen. I do
have one question.
MR. BABAYAN: Sure.
MS. DAVID: You mentioned that the leg between Oahu and Hilo is the most
difficult. Aside from the currents, what makes that leg a really difficult leg to do?
MR. BABAYAN: Yes, it's the trade winds. The trade winds blow from east to
west. They basically go from the direction of the Big Island, all the way down the
through Kaua` i. So anytime you've got come east, or from O `ahu upwind, you
know, to Maui, Molokai, Lanai, and the Big Island, it's an endeavor.
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MS. DAVID: Yeah, okay. No, I was just curious. My ignorance is like, wow,
why is that? It's a short distance.
MR. BABAYAN: Yeah, it's such a short distance.
MS. DAVID: Okay.
MR. BABAYAN: In 1976, when they sailed 116kule`a, from Honolulu, Maui, to
Tahiti, it took them some 33 days. The first seven days was just sailing from
Honolulu to Hilo.
MS. DAVID: Oh my gosh. Okay, well thank you for explaining that. That was
my only question. It was like so unreal. So mahalo for all you've done, and we
will be doing. We support you 100 percent.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you.
MS. DAVID: Mahalo.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. Kalepa, thank you. Mahalo. I know Hilo
will be rather exciting. Like the Council Members, I'm really excited to offer
my assistance, my help. And, you know, continue to reach out to the Council
Members for contingency money to help.
What I do find incredibly exciting, is when you move forward with your meeting
with the Mayor, kitty-corner to the harbor where you're intending to be, is our
Kuawa fields in which we hope to have open, beginning December. So that will
be a really nice staging area. Rather it be parking or just, you know, overflow, or
maybe even consideration of other activities in relationship to what's going on in
the harbor. That's something you can talk to the Mayor about when you do have
this meeting. There's a number of other facilities nearby.
MR. BABAYAN: Well, thank you.
MS. LEE LOY: And I really want to say mahalo for your consideration for the
ADA (American with Disabilities Act) compliance piece because it's wonderful
that you're going to be looking out for these special families that have special
needs. Thank you.
MR. BABAYAN: Yeah, thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. Eoff.
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MS. EOFF: Thank you. I'm sure the Council Members may have more to add.
But I just would be remiss if I didn't extend such a deep mahalo and gratitude to
you for being here today and sharing, but mostly for your leadership with
Hokule`a and the canoe and Polynesian Voyaging Society. I mean, you've got it
so much positive and inspirational hope into our community, the worldwide
voyage, the message it conveyed. Today's world with so much turmoil, I believe
you and the message of the canoe has provided a ray of hope. All over.
Especially Hawaii, but all over the world. I just thank you for the time you spent
away from your family and your devotion to your current position at `Imiloa, but
your years of, I guess it's service, but connection with the canoe and all it
embodies. So personally, mahalo to you.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you. Just one thing I'd like to share, that in the three
years I was away from Hawaii sailing around the world, what a very, very
diverse planet we live in, culturally, environmentally. But in the end, in
retrospect, as I visited different communities, we're all the same. We all care
about the same thing. Like, where's the next meal going to come from; how am I
managing my affairs? What people really care about is family and community.
And that's the same, from one community to the next community, Some 46,000
miles around the planet. So, thank you.
MS. EOFF: I also wanted to—I'm sure you know this and maybe you've been
thinking about it, but be sure and consider utilizing the County's beautiful park at
Kohanaiki. The navigational star compass that's there now, and there's canoe
gardens and plants that are growing. In any way that you can utilize that, while
people are here or there's educational opportunities, I would really love to help
coordinate that and so would others. We do have a support team for that.
MR. BABAYAN: Well, thank you. I know that our main emphasis will be the
community days and the education fairs and the school field trips, but there will
be other opportunities for crew members to do presentations in the community, as
well.
MS. EOFF: Good. Okay, thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thank you. Kalepa, thank you so much, and giving us
the dates. I know we were told when we get it at the end, we keep it the longest,
so I'm really looking forward to that.
This is for some of the fun stuff. I know Councilwoman Eoff volunteered her
husband to help; I'm going to volunteer the whole Council to help out on this
because this is really exciting. So, look forward to working with you getting this
done.
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MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I want to thank you for the presentation and always
being available to the Council, not only this term but on previous terms you were
here. And even if I'm not at the events that you've been giving talk -stories, I
know all about it because Council Member Eoff makes sure she shares that with
us. A lot about you and what an incredible guy you are. Hearing that the voyage
is not just a voyage and learning how to voyage, but how you connect with family
and community, which is the heartbeat of this world. I'm so excited for the young
children, school-age children. Not only them, even our kupuna and everybody in
between to learn about the voyage and how you connected throughout the world
as well with community and families. Just the stories. So, I'm kind of excited
about it. I just want to say thank you so much for all that you do for the world.
Thank you.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES : Ms. O'Hara.
MS. O'HARA: Thank you, Chair. I, too, just want to thank you for the
presentation. It really helps to get an idea of what we can expect here. You have
my full support. I thank you, Mr. Richards, for enlisting all of us. But you
definitely have my full support on any activities that I can assist with from
district. We're already working towards that end. I think this is going to be great.
So, thank you much for the presentation.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Kanuha.
MR. KANUHA: Thank you, Madam Chair. Mahalo for your presentation. I can
definitely looking forward to you guys coming. I'm excited that you guys are
coming to Kailua. Such a rich history. I was kind of wondering how you guys
are going to get there because Kailua no more wind, yeah? I'm glad you can tow
Hokule`a if no more wind. But definitely looking forward to helping out as much
as I can.
Me, coming from Kailua, my family coming from Kailua, you know, our family
was one of the founders of Kai `Opua Canoe Club. So being part of the canoe
clubs that are—you know, Kai `Opua, Kai `Ehitu, even Keauhou, they all can
help out too in whatever capacity. We can all work together to have an awesome
homecoming for Hokule`a, and really getting the community excited to hear from
your guys and get educated about the worldwide voyage and everything that you
do. I'm really looking forward to it.
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And really mahalo you guys for pushing to come to Hawaii Island because the
celebration that started off this voyage was on this island, too. I thought it was
really important to help out as much as possible. So please, please, let's get
together and really have a great celebration for it to come into Kailua. I'll be
there, as much as I can help out.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you. But we really need to thank DOBAR (Division of
Boating and Ocean Recreation) for offering Wailoa Harbor and Kailua-Kona Pier.
They were just very glad to work with us. So now we've got a safe place where
people can get onboard the canoe and visit. That was probably the most crucial
part for planning this whole event, is where you're going to put the canoe?
MR. KANUHA: Yeah, definitely. So mahalo to DOBAR for that. Just again,
thank you for the updates. Just really looking forward to working with everybody
to making this happen.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Is there any other comments or questions? Okay, seeing none,
I just want to thank you for your time here. Just, really, our deepest appreciation
for keeping the knowledge alive. I think there's nothing more important than that.
MR. BABAYAN: Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: With that, all those in favor of filing Communication 586
please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 586: The motion to close file on Comm. 586 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. RUGGLES: Moving on to Communication 587, Mr. Clerk.
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Comm. 587: REQUESTS A PRESENTATION BY THE HAWAII PUBLIC HEALTH
INSTITUTE AND PEOPLES ADVOCACY FOR TRAILS HAWAII
REGARDING RESPECTIVE MISSIONS, GOALS, AND OBJECTIVES,
FOCUSING ON MULTI -MODAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES AND RELATED PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THE
PEOPLE OF HAWAII COUNTY
From Council Member Susan L. K. Lee Loy, dated October 23, 2017.
(Note: Comms. 587.1 and 587.2, from Council Member Susan L. K. Lee Loy
dated November 13, 2017, transmitting PowerPoint presentation material
provided by Hawaii Public Health Institute and Peoples Advocacy for Trails
Hawaii; were circulated.)
Motion to Close File: Ms. Lee Loy moved to close file on Comm. 587. Seconded by
Mr. Richards.
(Note: At this time, Ms. Sally Ancheta and Ms. Trisha La Chica, from
Hawaii Public Health Institute; and Ms. Tina Collier, from Peoples
Advocacy for Trails Hawaii, came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
CHR. RUGGLES: You can go ahead with your presentation whenever you're
ready.
MS. ANCHETA: Aloha. I am Sally Ancheta. I am the East Hawaii Coordinator
for the Hawaii Public Health Institute. I, along with Tina Collier from PATH
(Peoples Advocacy for Trails Hawai` i), and Trish La Chika from the Hawai `i
Public Health Institute, our Policy and Advocacy Director, are very happy to be
here today. We're going to do a brief presentation of who we are, what our
organizations are, and how we've been just working in Hawaii County around
multi -modal transportation. So, we're very happy to be here. Thank you,
Chair Ruggles and Councilmembers, for having us today.
(Note: At this time, the representatives from Hawaii Public Health
Institute and PATH proceeded with their PowerPoint presentation. For
viewing of the subject presentation, please see the DVD copy of the
meeting proceedings on file in the Clerk's Office. Hard copies of the
presentations are made a part of the record, see Comms. 587.1 and 587.2.)
CHR. RUGGLES: Great. Thank you for your presentation. Are there any
questions or comments? Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Sally, Tina, Trish, thank you. I actually wanted to
focus on your presentation a little bit, Tina, and it was the Next Steps — Core Best
Practices. There was a priority, Create and Adopt an Active Transportation Plan.
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And then you mentioned the idea of taking these bike plans, pedestrian safety
plans, and then maybe integrating them or dovetailing them with the Mass Transit
plan. Share with me how to make that best zipper together; what you folks are
doing and what the County is doing currently with its Mass Transit plan. Because
I know we're focused on bus and bus routes and bus ridership, and then what we
keep hearing is this Spoke and Hub program.
MS. CLOTHIER: Right.
MS. LEE LOY: And then I see this. So I almost feel that there would be this
natural way to zipper them together so they would be integrated together.
MS. CLOTHIER: Councilmember Lee Loy, I agree. The concept of an active
transportation plan is huge. But, you're right. There's already all those pieces.
We do have Bike Plan Hawaii, and we actually do have a Hawaii County Bike
Plan; but it's from 1979, so I think it needs dusting off. Then there is a statewide
Transportation Plan. We have a Hawaii County version of that but also needs
updating. But our thought is that once we've got that Mass Transit Plan in place,
then the next logical step would be, okay, let's bring in that same consultant or
another consultant and have them help us update the Bike and Ped Plan that we
already have and integrate it into our Transit Plan.
Bike Share is a good example of what might be able to integrate in the
Transit Plan. Once we have the right station density and we have Bike Share in
the different districts and the different population centers, then Bike Share could
be a first and last mile for those transit users. So, it's a logical next step. But I
think the transportation—the Transit Plan comes first because that will also help
to get more cars off the road and then we can apply the Bike and Ped plans.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Next part was the Priority 3, Re-establish the
Hawaii County Balanced Transportation Coordinator. Is that kind of an
individual who would balance Planning Department's request for change of zone,
their plans, and what type of infrastructure we have between Public Works?
MS. CLOTHIER: Right. So that doesn't show—it have sort of the 30,000 -foot
view of transportation issues and opportunities on Hawaii Island. They would
work between the Planning Department and the Department of Public Works and
make sure that the conversations between those departments happen on a regular
basis. We're aware, again, opportunities and challenges.
Kauai has a position like this. I know that Kauai has a lot fewer road miles and
a lot smaller population. But it really seems to be working well. The position's
actually housed in—it belongs to Planning. But the person is housed in the
Department of Public Works, so there's a lot of hallway conversations along with
official conversations.
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We actually did—Hawaii County did actually have this position about ten years
ago, and I may be wrong on my dates, but it was initially funded for the—it was
going to be funded for three years. Initially funded, 100 percent by the
Department of Health. The second year it was to be funded, 50 percent by the
Department of Health, 50 percent by County of Hawaii. Then the third year the
County of Hawaii would take over the full funding for the position. But that
position actually went away after the first year.
So, it's hard tell in a year how effective it could have been. But I think now that
where we have this mindset of multi -modal, of transportation plans, it might be
time to reassess whether that could be a position we could add.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Thank you for that because that's that reassessing
piece that I know this body really gets interested in.
I'm just thinking out loud. The Planning Department, in their Planning
Commission, they have ex officio bodies from the other agencies, and maybe we
could utilize that capacity holder for them because they're already part of that
board or commission.
Another conversation we had as a body, is with the Mass Transit fund. I think we
have to create that MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization) framework. So
maybe there might be an ex officio placeholder for Planning Department with
Mass Transit. This is me just thinking out loud on how to help move some of
these next steps forward. But of course, I think the real big question is the money.
MS. CLOTHIER: Yeah.
MS. LEE LOY: I want to hear more about this TIGER (Transportation
Investment Generating Economic Recovery) funding because I work very closely
with people over in the Kauai Planning Department and was thrilled and jealous
at the exact same time for the amount of money that they got. They spent many
years advocating for it, attended a number HCPO (Hawai`i Congress of Planning
Officials) conferences as a team, talking about this grant. How do we get better at
looking at this funding because looks like we missed it and looks like we missed
and left a lot of money on the table?
MS. CLOTHIER: I think we have, and I think we can change that. Couple of
things. One important piece of going after any funding is data, and being able to
collect data on the different modes of transportation is essential because that is
what informs the grant proposal and that's what, frankly, influences the people
who approve the grants.
In the TIGER Fund, and it's not just a matter of writing the grant, it's also a
matter of talking to our Department of Transportation to find out what their
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priorities are and advocating with them, and then, also, advocating at the
congressional level. Because they're going to ask our Department of
Transportation what their priorities are, so we want to make sure that our voice is
heard at all the different levels. We can build a case for the grant application and
what it is we're asking for. So, data is important.
Frankly, I think, and this is just my opinion, but if we had an office of grant
writers in the County, people very skilled at writing for these Federal grants,
managing and overseeing them, managing them because it's not—again, the
writing the grant, the getting the grant is one thing, but it's managing the grant
that is equally important. I'm not sure if it would make more sense to have a
grant writer in each of the departments or to have those grant writers in one
department but with those kind of specialized skills, going after different funds.
So, I'm talking more positions, right? I know that takes money. The fact is that
there are grants out there available. And if we can work together, all the
departments working together, then I believe we can be as successful as Kauai
was in getting some of these grant monies. It's just having that vision, having the
plan, and then collecting the data and then going forward.
MS. LEE LOY: This is going to be my final question. I know throughout
different counties and throughout different states, every—similar projects are
called different things. So, is this the new definition of Complete Streets, of
transportation, we're calling it multi -modal transportation? So, if we
package up a grant and somehow make it—fluff it enough that it's fitting into
all these different pieces, there's better opportunity. So, this is the new hashtag
multi -modal?
MS. CLOTHIER: That's a great question. For several years we were saying
Complete Streets, Complete Streets. I think the general perception was
Complete Streets meant you had to put a bike lane on every road, you had to put a
sidewalk on every road. So, there's been a shift in the way we talk about it, and
multi -modal infrastructure, multi -modal infrastructure, multi -modal transportation
is the, in my universe, it's about the latest buzzword. Are the latest buzzwords.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. I yield at this time. But please stick around because
we have one more thing that we'll be talking about.
MS. CLOTHIER: Okay, thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Thank you so much for all that you do, all three of you.
Anyway, when we talk about Safe Routes to School in the past—Tina, I think you
came out with us in Hamakua. So, when we talk about rural communities and
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Safe Routes to School, unlike Oahu, you have communities walk to school,
right? The problem that we had in our local communities, especially plantation
communities, is the school is normally either up on the hill or something and
communities are below. Parents maybe drive them up the hill, drop them off in
town, and then the walking goes from there. But part of that grant didn't allow
for that. They needed to walk.
We talk about grants and great things that can happen. But there are a lot of times
there's certain criteria that needs to be looked at again for rural communities,
because the people in Honolulu who are making the decisions for this grant had
no idea about what our communities were like out in the rural areas, in Hamakua.
I was trying to talk to them about it over the phone, but they have no concept of it.
I think working toward some of those changes in getting those changes, and
getting those people who make the decisions to make sure and come—and yes, I
remember when Mayor Carvalho got that grant. How wonderful. I'm thinking I
don't think they'd give two almost at the same time in Hawaii because you know
how the Feds look at stuffs. So maybe now is the time to go back in because it
has been several years to do it.
Again, can the County even afford to manage that grant? Because we know even
smaller grants, you can write—writing is the easy part of the grant. We all know
that. Writing it and making your story, saying your story and why you need it and
how desperate we need it, that's the easy part. It's managing it and doing it that is
the most expensive piece. Grant writers can come and go. Easy to get them. But
it's to manage. Who's going to manage? And then when you have administration
changing, people retiring or leaving, it's—so, I don't know. Then that's what
we've got to look at, and hopefully administration or our department can start
looking at how we can manage those grants or even try to apply for it to manage
it.
So, I don't think it's not wanting to apply for it. I think it's knowing what it takes
to manage it and can we at this point? And we should. We should start looking at
that; to plan, to accept grants, and how can we better manage it? I don't know.
That would probably come up in the—budget time. Maybe we need positions,
but we'll see.
But anyway, I just want to say thank you. And thank you for working with
Blue Zone because I know how important the Blue Zone's project is, and about
them attending our Community Development Action Committees in each
community. It is so critical to make sure and keep that connection with the
communities through their Community Development Plans.
So, all we do here is wonderful. But we need to get to the grassroots and making
sure that we hear their voices as well, yeah? So, thank you.
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MS. CLOTHIER: I just wanted to do a shout -out and the giving the tireless
Carol Ignacio—because she's been going to each and every one of the CDPs
(Community Development Plans) and hearing those voices. That really helps to
inform the Blue Zone Built Environment blueprint.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. O'Hara, did you have your hand up earlier?
MS. O'HARA: No, I didn't have my light on. But is there anyone else that needs
to be recognized? Because I do have one little point. I just want to ask the
presenters—I mean, the information that you're presenting is so important to how
we move forward with developing, especially in our rural areas where we don't
have safe streets, we don't have multi -modal elements to our streets; and yet, I'm
finding—it's difficult to change the mindset here at the County in terms of what
our code says; streets have to be versus what we as a society need. I just want to
know if you have any thoughts on how to promote that change?
It's not only a change in behavior, it's kind of just a change in the mental way that
we address these types of projects, which in the past have been strictly thought of
as "engineered projects" and they have to be done this way per the elements of the
code. But how do we get our administration to think outside the box? We've
already had a good discussion on the need for grant management, and I've been
advocating that for a long time. But we also need to learn how to think outside
the box with regard to the ideas that you're bringing forth. Do you have any
suggestions?
MS. CLOTHIER: Thank you for that question. As I mentioned earlier, the
Planning Department will actually, beginning the end of this year, be working on
a Complete Streets Plan, and that actually is an updated version of road standards.
So those new road standards will help to address some of the zoning changes that
the County might want to implement. So, we'll moving from a set of road
standards that were developed in 1979 to something a little more updated that
actually allows for sidewalks, for shared -use pass, for bike lanes, and such.
So, we're pretty excited about the fact that the Planning Department will be
beginning network. They have to finish some of the General Plan work first and
then they'll be re-engaging SSFM to have them help with the development of that
Complete Streets Plans. They looked at Honolulu's Complete Streets Plan,
Kaua`i's Complete Streets Plan, and they are really trying to determine now what
elements of those plans they might consider adopting but also keeping in mind the
uniqueness of Hawaii Island in our rural areas. So, I hope that answered the
question. But I'm really excited that is in the not too distant future.
MS. ANCHETA: And, Council Member O'Hara, I'd to also like share that
what's been nice is we've been able to bring consultants from the mainland to
have conversations with the Department of Public Works and bring new design
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guideline to our leaders in these different areas, Planning Department, and having
those one-on-one conversations, leaving those tools behind.
So, as we move forward, as this kind of antiquated standards that we've had, that
there are many documented new engineering standards that they can use and
adopt either into the General Plan, the Complete Streets Plan. Those
conversations have been going on.
MS. LA CHICA: And finally, speaking to getting the community buy -in and
support with Get Fit Hawaii, it was an 18 -month process for them to get the
TIGER grant successfully. They wouldn't have done it without the community
involvement. You can see they really bring them out. And through the
Downtown Lihue, like they do block parties. It's really a lot of one-on-one. Even
door-to-door, like engagement with the residents. Letting them know—do your
kids own a bike, do you own a stroller, how would it feel if you were able to
utilize the streets outside more? And knowing that any improvement to their
neighborhood will increase property value and will help bring in and help boost
the local economy. So, just having those conversations are critical before we go
into planning mode. Just utilizing the community more.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. O'Hara.
MS. O'HARA: Thank you for pushing this forward and making those
connections within the community so that we can get the will to make this happen
here because it's very much needed, especially in my district out in Puna, where
roads are in rough shape. So, thank you so much for all the work you're doing
and pushing it just further up the hill. Really appreciate it. Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you. And thank you, all, for being here and providing us
information on the various resources that we have available to us. And thank you
to Ms. Lee Loy for requesting this presentation.
I could ask a lot of questions today. I'm not going to do that; I'm going to reserve
that for some time later. We can talk at our leisure. Just talking about the
Downtown Hilo multi -modal study, we can talk about it right now. About three
hours, obviously, yeah? The Bayfront Trails, another hour. Even grant writing,
quite frankly, and I've got some strong opinions about that stuff too.
But right now, all I want to know, and all it's going to take is a yes or no answer,
and maybe just a little bit more after. With regard to Safe Routes to Schools, do
we have any kind of assessment for each of the individual schools on the island so
we have an idea of what we could or could not do? Is there something like that
out there?
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MS. CLOTHIER: We have an assessment in terms of signage and crosswalks.
MR. CHUNG: For each of the schools?
MS. CLOTHIER: For each of the schools. And we have a list of which schools
are—which of the equipment are going to be paid for by the State and then by the
County. Some of the roads are State roads and some are—County roads are in
front of the school.
In terms of the infrastructure, the sidewalk needs, and the outlying infrastructure
around the school, we're in the process of putting that plan together. It has to be
done school -by -school.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah.
MS. CLOTHIER: Because it also involves the community. The school
community and the surrounding community and getting their input, too. It's a
long-term project, but it's in the works.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, okay. I can talk to you guys about that. But thank you so
much for coming. I'll talk to you guys little later. Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. Eoff.
MS. EOFF: Thank you. Mahalo to all three of you. You started off, I think,
Tina, by you stating what an awesome day it was to be able to appreciate all the
good things that are going on in our community and the good people that have
come forward to help further those initiatives.
I want to say that I think I've known you for at least 30 years, and PATH has
really come a long way. I see with our entire island being designated the
Blue Zone that all of these initiatives are kind of gaining momentum now. The
things you've put in place and the seeds you planted, now we're starting to really
see it around the island. So, thank you for sharing all of that.
And then just quickly, I wanted to mention I think you were involved before
with the Open Space Ad Hoc Committee of the Kona CDP. I don't know if
you're involved in the last emails that have been coming out, but I think
tomorrow they're going to present their maps and plans. I wondered if you
would be present there. I'm not sure if I will because we have a meeting here
tomorrow too.
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MS. CLOTHIER: I plan on being present. I am still a member. I have to
admit that for the month of October I wasn't terribly involved because it's
a really usually busy month for PATH, but the sub -committee is doing some
really great work. So. I'm excited of their presentation.
MS. EOFF: Okay, great. Okay, mahalo.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Kanuha.
MR. KANUHA: Thank you. And mahalo for being here. I really appreciate
your guys' presentation. I know us as Hawaii Island, especially since I've been
on the Council, we've been really advocating for a lot of these positions, you
know, Healthy Communities, these Safe Routes to Schools, these Complete
Streets. I've gone to a lot of these different presentations. Even gone to different
states to view how they do a lot of their things with the Complete Streets or
Healthy Communities, and really trying to bring that political will to Hawaii
County, to say that we can do things differently and it can be better.
A lot of this stuff does have to do with really educating not only ourselves or the
administration but the entire public that there is a better way to do a lot of these
things. It can be a safer way. We can all work together to make it happen. So,
that education piece is really, really important.
What else? When you start implementing these programs, it does cost a lot of
money. Yeah, we can talk for three hours about the grant funding that we're not
really pushing to get. That really could help us out. I mean, it can't be all of our
Hawaii Island taxpayer's money paying for a lot of these programs. We've got
to really stretch ourselves to reach for these funds that are available all over the
place. It frustrates me that everybody else is getting these monies. We didn't
even submit an application, so that's always been a frustration. You've heard it
from a lot of the Council Members, and even yourself had said that as well in the
presentations.
You can see the political will here that we do really care about what you guys are
doing and we do really care about what you guys are doing. We want to work
with you guys. It's just that we all have to be on the same page, legislatively,
administratively. All of you folks that are doing on the ground really promoting
these types of initiatives, that's really how it's going to work all together. So, I
encourage the Mayor and the administration to work with us, to work with you
guys. I know that they have been. But that's really how it's going to work and to
move forward.
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Again, we could talk for hours about a lot of this stuff. But really, thank you for
the presentation, and looking forward to working with you guys on all different
aspects of our healthy communities. And with PATH, of course, with the Safe
Routes to Schools, Complete Streets. All the above. All those types of things are
really important. Especially in, I'm not going to speak for the rest of the Council,
but in my district, the issues that we've been trying to push here in Kona. So
again, thank you guys for being here.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. And aloha, Tina, Trish, and Sally. The
information that you guys provided today is—thank you, Ms. Lee Loy, for
presenting. The combination of the information that you folks present is very
informative. I know Tina. Tina, I want to thank you for all your work you've
done in my district for the schools. Your commitment is just unreal.
So, if I can do anything in our respective districts to help your efforts, please,
reach out. I just wanted to say thank you for all the work and all of your
commitment to make this place a better place to live. Thank you.
MS. ANCHETA: If I could just share? Also, to all the Councilmembers, if there
is needs that you have your district or you want to bring forward for Hawaii
County that we could be part of to help that process, I'm also the President of the
Hawaii Island Rural Health Association. Sometimes we know—I come from
Puna, from Pahoa, and we know that there's needs for either our hometowns or
places that we might not live, that we know that the infrastructure is lacking. So,
if there's something on your radar screen, please let us know as well because
that's how we want to be part of the process to move things forward. Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. I think the sign of a successful presentation
is you increased the understanding. But also, you created a lot more questions in
my mind; so I do want to sit down and talk story with you guys coming forward.
I do have to agree with you that Carol Ignacio makes the Eveready bunny tired.
But I would like—again, I'm not going to reiterate, I echo what people have said
up here, I really appreciate Councilwoman Lee Loy bringing this forward. I think
with those questions we're going to create some opportunities, so I look forward
to working with you and talking story with you in the very near future. I yield.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Kanuha.
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MR. KANUHA: Thank you. And I also forgot to mention that a lot of these
programs, you've really got to know all the data, yeah? Really got to understand
what's happening in the community. It's very data -driven on how you get these
grants and how you get a lot of these funding. We can't really go out in la -la land
saying we want all this, but show me why we need it. That is really important. I
know you've given a lot of statistics, especially on our health initiatives. You
know, why we're doing what we're doing in the state, and on Hawaii Island,
especially. And even Complete Streets, a lot of these initiatives, we're going to
talk about that next, about why we need to do a lot of these things and why it's
really necessary in moving forward. So, I just wanted to relay that as well.
CHR. RUGGLES: Anyone else? Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: And thank you, Sally. You have access to tremendous amounts
of information. This gang knows where I stand, good information helps us make
good decisions, but that helps us make good policies. So, I really appreciate you
sharing the opportunity that we could reach out to you folks, to help collect that
data, which Mr. Kanuha is absolutely correct about. There's people who are
driven by passion but other people who are just driven data and numbers. So
somehow, we have to get those two things to coincide at that right time, before
the expiration of the grant so that we can move something forward. But, thank
you. Thank you, Sally.
MS. LA CHICA: Can I just share? This is so refreshing to hearing from all of
you. Because I work at the State Legislature and when I do testify and hear these
things, when I advocate for Safe Routes to School or other things, like maybe I
can just come work here. But it's very different. It's very refreshing to hear and
get a sense of, like I feel appreciated hearing all those comments from you, so
thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Thank you. I really appreciate the context that you started the
presentation with, which is kind of a health crisis that we're facing and how the
lack of walkable streets or bikeable streets contributes to that. I didn't catch the
full statistics. If you don't mind, clarifying for me what percentage of native
Hawaiians' population is obese?
MS. LA CHICA: It's 40.8 percent.
CHR. RUGGLES: 40.8.
MS. LA CHICA: And then for the State of Hawaii, only I I percent do active
transportation, which includes biking, walking, and taking the bus to commuting.
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Vote on Comm. 587:
Filed
Recess:
Reconvene:
ORDER OF
RESOLUTIONS:
November 14, 2017
CHR. RUGGLES: And what is the 70 percent?
MS. LA CHICA: That's the percentage of middle schoolers who don't meet
physical activity recommendations. Because in 2009, the requirement of PE
(Physical Education) was taken out of middle school, so it's not offered.
CHR. RUGGLES: Okay, thank you for that. Overall, I think your presentation
was very well-rounded and informative. I'm excited to see what the Planning
Department comes up with so we can start moving forward on making some of
our streets—making all of our streets multi -modal.
I also appreciate when you brought up about the grant, the grant writer. It's pretty
disappointing that there are grant opportunities out there that we are missing. In
the meanwhile, we just raised taxes this year. We need to be looking at all of the
resources we have to do this. Anyway, I just really appreciate you coming and I
appreciate the presentation. Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. All those in favor of filing
Communication 587 please say "aye."
The motion to close file on Comm. 587 was carried by the
following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles – 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. RUGGLES: Communication is filed.
At 11:53, the Chair called for a recess.
The meeting reconvened at 11:58 a.m.
CHR. RUGGLES: Okay, I'm going to call this meeting back to order.
Resolution 397-17, Mr. Clerk.
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Order of Resolutions.
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Res. 397-17: AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF TWO "MOBILE
MULTI" COUNTING DEVICES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS
Donated by the Hawaii Public Health Institute with a value of $8,000 each. The
department would initially install one device in East Hawaii and one device in
West Hawaii to count pedestrians and bicyclists, and differentiate between the
two, for statistical analyses of path and trail use patterns.
Reference: Comm. 588
Intr. by: Mr. Kanuha and Ms. Lee Loy
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 397-17. Seconded by Ms. David.
CHR. RUGGLES: Councilmember Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. This donation is incredible timing. We just
had a wonderful presentation by PATH and Hawaii Public Health Institute.
What they're donating to us via this resolution is a counter. This is where we
grab the data, and we will be able to build information around the data collected.
So what Hawaii Public Health Institute is providing to the County, is what they
call Mobile MULTI counting devices. The plan is to provide them to the
Department of Public Works. One will be in Hilo, which we hope to use at the
Bayfront Parks and Trailways Program; and another one here in Kona, which we
hope to be at the Queens Lei Trail.
This couldn't have been more perfect timing from the presentation to this
donation. So, I'm going to be urging the rest of my colleagues to support this
resolution. This really does a lot for not only Hilo but Kona. So, Mr. Kanuha?
CHR. RUGGLES: Go ahead.
MR. KANUHA: Yeah, absolutely. And this is something that we talked about
earlier, of getting that data and really driving home. What is going on, on Hawaii
Island, especially in these two areas? I know we can expand this to look at other
places, like Alii Drive or other areas, where we need that data to help
informing—or help with the policymaking or money opportunities. So, this really
will help to know what's going on.
Especially for, like Queens Lei, what Karen Eoff is doing, promoting, or in her
district promoting how to further the Queens Lei and getting the monies. But we
need to know exactly who's using it, how many people, why, you know, all the
above, so that will really help in promoting of this particular Queens Lei Trail.
Hopefully, we can get this to other areas, where we can get that data. So, I ask for
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your support. Again, mahalo to the Hawaii Public Health Institute for this
donation.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. David.
MS. DAVID: Thank you, Chair. And ditto on the mahalo Hawaii Public Health
Institute. Timing is everything in this day and age. So, thank you very much. I
think this will give us the information that we were all talking about today.
Also, from a non -electronic view, ever since the Queens Lei section from here to
Hina Lani went in, I've been counting a lot of people, just utilizing this whole
route. I'll be curious to see just how many people, I mean, not only bikes and
pedestrians but families with strollers. It's been an increase, and it's a very
positive showing, I believe so. Thank you so much again. Mahalo.
CHR. RUGGLES: Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. I will support provided that east and west
will allow north and south to borrow the instruments periodically. Thank you.
CHR. RUGGLES: Ms. Eoff.
MS. EOFF: Thank you. I just wondered what it looks like or how it works a little
bit.
(Note: At this time, Ms. Sally Ancheta came forward to address the
members of the Committee.)
MS. EOFF: Okay, thank you. Just restate your name and then go ahead.
MS. ANCHETA: Hi. I'm Sally Ancheta, from the Hawaii Public Health
Institute, the East Hawaii Coordinator. Unfortunately, I'm not trained in this
device yet. But the software and the devices will bring members of the
Department of Public Works, probably the Traffic Division, to Honolulu as well
as other engineers from the State Hawaii. There are different classes for training
on how to use it. But I believe it's a counter. It will have a data strip and then
you'll use and it'll count the use of the different trails and the different areas.
It could even be put in, what we call a go trail. Like if we're looking at Safe
Routes to Schools, that is designing a walking path. Mark Fenton came here and
talked to us many times to say, "Don't make a path where people don't walk."
So, we could put it anywhere. There's even pre-existing path that people use.
Just to get more data to see, okay, and then to justify why we would need funding
create a more permanent -built environment in that area. I'm sorry I can't give
you more information. I haven't used it yet.
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MS. EOFF: Let us know when we can—Tina, did you have some more?
(Note: At this time, Ms. Tina Clothier came forward to address the
members of the Committee.)
MS. CLOTHIER: Hi. My name is Tina Clothier. I'm the Executive Director of
PATH, Peoples Advocacy for Trails Hawaii. I am very excited about HI -5's gift
to the County.
So, the counter is typically affixed to a pole, some type of a pole. Just with
semi-permanent fixes, like zip ties. When the road folks do traffic counts on the
road, they put strips out on the road or little loops on the road. The same thing
applies to this device. So, it's a device that goes on a pole and then it's connected
to these strips that goes across the pathway.
In terms of affordability, I think the plan is, to maybe every six months or so, to
move it to a different locale, so certainly north and south. But we want to get a
full picture of the bike and pedestrian traffic flow around the island. We'll start
off on the pathways because we know people go there. So as Councilman
Kanuha said, we want to count. Also, Councilwoman David said we want to
count the number of people using those facilities so that we can have data to
encourage the expansion of those. So, thank you.
MS. EOFF: Okay, thank you very much. That helps.
CHR. RUGGLES: Anyone else? Okay seeing and hearing none, all those in
favor of Resolution 397-17, accepting the donation of Mobile MULTI counting
devices please say "aye."
Vote on Res. 397-17: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 397-17 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles – 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
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BILLS FOR
ORDINANCES:
ADJOURN-
MENT:
Approved:
November 14, 2017
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Bills for Ordinances.
(There were none.)
CHR. RUGGLES : May I have motion to adjourn?
There being no further business, at 12:08 p.m., Mr. Richards moved to adjourn
the meeting. Seconded by Ms. David and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards,
and Chair Ruggles — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. RUGGLES: We are now adjourned.
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