HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2017/05/02 2016-2018COMMITTEE ON FINANCE
101h Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
May 2, 2017
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 2:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers, Kailua-Kona, by Ms. Maile Medeiros David,
Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Chair
Ms. Karen Eoff, Vice Chair
Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member
Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Eileen O'Hara, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member
Ms. Jennifer Ruggles, Member (via videoconference from Hilo)
STATEMENTS
FROM THE
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS
COMMUNI-
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Comm. 15.7:
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Jon Olson: Comm. 247;
Bill 11 (Comm. 91); and
Bill 12 (Comm. 92), comment.
Margaret Wille: Bill 11 (Comm. 91); and
Bill 12 (Comm. 92), comment.
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Communications.
REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: MARCH 16 - 31, 2017
From Controller Kay Oshiro, dated April 3, 2017.
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Vote on Comm. 15.7:
Filed
May 2, 2017
Ms. Poindexter moved to close file on Comm. 15.7.
Seconded by Ms. Eoff and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David - 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, Communication 69.1.
Comm. 69.1: THIRD QUARTER CLAIMS REPORT: JANUARY 1 - MARCH 31, 2017
From Claims Investigator/Adjustor Clifford D. Victorine III, dated April 3,
2017, transmitting the above report pursuant to Section 2-9 of the Hawaii
County Code.
Vote on Comm. 69.1: Ms. Eoff moved to close file on Comm. 69.1. Seconded
Filed by Mr. Richards and carried by the following
voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David - 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, Communication 247, please.
Comm. 247: NOMINATION OF FREDERICK R. WARSHAUER TO THE PUBLIC
ACCESS, OPEN SPACE, AND NATURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION
COMMISSION
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated April 12, 2017, submitting for the Council's
review and confirmation the above nomination.
Requires Council
Confirmation by: May 28, 2017 (Section 2-215(k),
Hawaii County Code)
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Vote on Comm. 247: Ms. Eoff moved to recommend confirmation of the
(Approved) appointment of Mr. Frederick R. Warshauer to the Public
Access, Open Space, and Natural Resources Preservation
Commission. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David - 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Committee Members spoke in favor of the appointment.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Warshauer, you would not have to return to Council. And,
thank you very much and congratulations. Aloha.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(There were none.)
CHR. DAVID: Moving on to Bills for Ordinances.
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
Bill 11: ESTABLISHES AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY OF
HAWAII FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2017, TO JUNE 30, 2018
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated March 1, 2017, transmitting for consideration the
proposed Operating Budget for the County of Hawaii for the Fiscal Year (FY)
ending June 30, 2018. This balanced budget includes estimated revenues and
appropriations of $473,998,961, and is 2.38 percent higher than last year's
budget.
Reference: Comm. 91
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Postponed: April 13, 2017
(Note: There is a motion by Ms. Eoff, seconded by Ms. Poindexter, to recommend
passage of Bill 11 on first reading.)
; and
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Comm. 91.1: From Finance Director Collins Tomei, dated March 1, 2017, transmitting a
booklet containing the reports entitled, Departmental & Agencies' Six Month
Progress Report on Program Objectives for FY 2016-17 and Final Status Report
on Program Objectives for FY 2015-16.
CHR. DAVID: Council Members, any discussion? Hearing or seeing none, all
those in favor ofoh, I'm sorry. Ms. Eoff, go ahead.
MS. EOFF: Just to clarify, can you, or maybe the Clerk, could just remind the
processes that—we need to move this Council, correct, even though it's still the
proposed Operating Budget?
MR. HENRICKS: Correct. We'll have a first reading, I believe on the 18th of
May, and the Mayor will be submitting his revised budget this Friday, May 5th,
and then we'll deal with that revised budget on the 18th and any Council action at
that time. And then again later on in June, early June.
MS. EOFF: Thank you. So, at this time we wouldn't want to make any changes.
This is just for the purpose of moving it on to Council.
MR. HENRICKS: Cannot. Charter doesn't allow any change at this point and
time, as I understand.
MS. EOFF: Thank you. I just wanted to be clear with that. Thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Eoff Anyone else? Hearing or seeing none, all
those in favor of approving Bill please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 11: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 11 on first reading
(Approved) was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David - 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Bill 11 moves forward, Council. Bill 12.
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Bill 12: RELATES TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING THEREOF
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR JULY 1, 2017, TO JUNE 30, 2018
From Mayor Harry Kim, dated March 1, 2017, transmitting the proposed Capital
Budget for FY 2017-2018, and the Capital Program for the next six years from
FY 2017-18 to 2022-23, which includes 37 projects requiring a total
appropriation of $130.2 million. Approximately $81.2 million are intended to be
funded in whole or part by bonds, $39.3 million to be funded by the State
Revolving Loan Fund or State Capital Improvement Projects, $9.66 million to be
funded by federal funds, and $45,000 to be funded by Fair Share Contributions.
Reference: Comm. 92
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Postponed: April 13, 2017
(Note: There is a motion by Ms. O'Hara, seconded by Ms. Poindexter, to
recommend passage of Bill 12 on first reading.)
Vote on Bill 12: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 12 on first reading
(Approved) was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, and
Chair David - 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Ruggles - 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, go ahead, Bill 29.
Bill 29: AMENDS CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 4, OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE
1983 (2016 EDITION, AS AMENDED), BY ADDING A NEW SECTION
RELATING TO TEMPORARY POSITIONS
Requires the Finance Director to notify the Council of any person employed
under a contract for less than 90 days if the salary is $5,000 or more per month,
and the temporary position is unrelated to a state of emergency declaration.
Reference: Comm. 238
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
Motion to Approve: Ms. Lee Loy moved to recommend passage of Bill 29
on first reading. Seconded by Ms. O'Hara.
CHR. DAVID: Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. I'm going to ask for the rest of my colleagues
to support this matter.
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As the newspaper reported, the impetus or the genesis of this bill really stemmed
from when we were sitting and going through the nonprofit grant applications.
And it really just didn't sit well with me that an individual was getting paid what a
nonprofit could have used for an entire year of programming. So for me, this was
my way of having an opportunity for the administration to cause or look at a
reason to pause at the amount that they were hiring individuals at, and then give
the Council an opportunity to just take a look.
The way the bill is structured is a report would come from the Director of Finance
for an individual with a contract of $5,000 or more. So anything below that
threshold, we wouldn't necessarily see. But I picked this amount just because if a
contract were to continue and be extended, for example for a year, and there's
some thresholds for that to happen. But this would be an individual who would
get paid $60,000 a year. And so for me, that was just a nice middle.
I did have an opportunity to speak to the Department of Human Resources and
asked for their comments. They really had no comment other than maybe
changing or editing the first part of the section, Part A, and changing it from the
Director of Finance to the Director of Human Services, because they're the
agency that would see these 89 -day contract hires.
They were also able to share with me that under our Hawaii Revised Statutes 76-77,
there is a Civil Service exemption clause. So there's a process that they use, it's a
16 -point checklist that they use to evaluate an individual going through an 89 -day
contract hire. So they're already—the Department of Human Services is already
doing a vetting process, and this bill would just give us another heads -up on
individuals being hired above and beyond the $5,000 threshold.
The ability will remain with the administration. However, I think going forward
with this bill in place, if we see a pattern developing and it is the will of this body,
perhaps later on we can further refine it, where the Council maybe could have a
say on whether this individual got hired or not. That's for later. But for right
now, I just wanted to start with some baby steps. See where we go from here,
watch if there's any pattern or trends that develop, and the Council would have an
opportunity later on to refine it. So, I am asking for everyone's support on this
matter and I look forward to hearing comments.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Council Members, comments? Hilo?
No. Kona, anyone? Ms. Eoff
MS. EOFF: Thank you. Question, Ms. Lee Loy, what did you determine
regarding whether it should be the HR (Human Resources) Director or the
Finance Director on that little "a" section, 2(a)?
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MS. LEE LOY: When I crafted the bill, I just saw it as the Director of Finance,
who would oversee that particular division. But after I have had the opportunity
to share it with Human Resources, that was just a suggestion for them. It seems
like a reasonable suggestion. For right now, the way the bill is written I'm okay
with. If we move it up to Council, there's still opportunity for us to refine that
and make it to the Department of Human Services; but I am open to that
suggestion. But I really do want to move this up in the vehicle that we have, and
then if there's more feedback we can take it up at Council, as well.
MS. EOFF: Okay, thank you. But it does seem reasonable, and maybe that
would be the more appropriate department. But, thank you. I don't have any
other comments right now.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Eoff Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Yeah, thank you, Madam Chairman. I want to thank our
colleague, Ms. Lee Loy, for advancing this measure. I certainly support it. It
could use some tweaking. Quite frankly, I think maybe the reference should be
made specifically to HRS (Hawai`i Revised Statutes) 76-77. I could be wrong,
but I think that's the only one which is less than 90 days. So, that's one thing to
consider.
And, I also think it should include everything. It shouldn't have a threshold,
5,000. Just make it everything. That's just my thought. I don't want to take
(inaudible) of any administration, but they could just play with us by keeping
under 5,000. I would just prefer seeing everything. I just don't like the idea of
reading about these things in the paper.
Quite frankly, when I took a close look at that contract, or contracts, which as
Ms. Lee Loy said served as the genesis for this bill, I think what they should have
done, what the administration should have done was just make it be personal
services contract. They could have gone by the hour, and then we could—it
would make more sense. When they termed it as an employment or a contract for
employment, that threw everything off This was not really an employment
contract. I guess he was employed, but it was a staggering figure, right, $16,000.
There's a lot to think about, but maybe if the maker of this bill can just consider
what I just said. But I'm going to support it in whatever form it takes. Thank
you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Chung. Anyone else in Kona or Hilo?
Ms. Ruggles, go ahead.
MS. RUGGLES: Thank you. I just have a question. So when the Mayor
employs a temporary hire like this, for example the $5,000 or the 16,000 referred
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to in the paper, where does it come from? What fund does it usually come from?
Does anybody know?
(Note: At this time, Deputy Finance Director Deanna Sako came forward
to address the members of the Committee.)
CHR. DAVID: Deanna's here. Thank you, Ms. Sako.
MS. SAKO: Hi. Good afternoon. Deanna Sako, Deputy Director of Finance.
Whichever department hires the employee, it comes under their budget. So if it's
Parks and Rec., that would be General Fund; if it was Solid, that would be Solid
Waste Fund. So their respective department pays the salary.
MS. RUGGLES: Okay, so specifically if it's the Mayor's department, would
come out of the operating budget for his department?
MS. SAKO: Right. Right, in the General Fund. It would come out of the
Mayor's budget. Correct.
MS. RUGGLES: Okay, thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Ruggles. Anyone else? Ms. Poindexter.
MS. POINDEXTER: Yeah, I'd like to say that I support this. And I think if it
should have amendments, we can do that at the Council level. So, I'd like to see
it go up to the Council. Okay, thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Poindexter. Mr. Kanuha.
MR. KANUHA: Thank you. And, yeah, I support everybody's comments, and
do support the amendments if there are—that was talked about earlier. That,
maybe, to happen.
This is just an extra layer of transparency to me. I appreciate what you're doing,
Ms. Lee Loy. It brings more notice to what is actually happening in this County,
to not only us but to all the voters, so I appreciate that. I'll support this current
version right now, and look forward to what's going to come out in the Council.
So, thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Kanuha. Anyone else? Oh, Ms. O'Hara. Go
ahead.
MS. O'HARA: Thank you. Yes, I support this bill and I thank Ms. Lee Loy for
putting it before the Council.
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There's been a number of questions that we've encountered in this administration
as well as the previous administration, who did more or less extensive hiring
outside of the Civil Service general hiring process. And it does raise a lot of
questions from the public about transparency, about the background and
competency of the people who are being hired, as well as the scope of services for
the contracts that are being issued and whether it really serves the public's benefit.
So, I think this level of transparency will really help, and I do support this. If
amendments are about foresight, I look forward to discussing those at our Council
meeting. So, thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. O'Hara. Anyone else? I don't see
MS. LEE LOY: Chair, aloha?
CHR. DAVID: Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Chair. I want to thank my colleagues for offering
their suggestions. I will put them together and circle back around on the
Department of Human Services because they really are the conduit for this, where
it all comes from.
But I did want to speak a little bit to Mr. Kanuha's comment about transparency.
You're absolutely correct. And, for me, this is pure accountability to our
taxpayers. When we are expending funds, there needs to be a public purpose.
Whether we keep it at the threshold, or like Mr. Chung mentioned, seeing it all.
This bill is about accountability. So, I appreciate your folks' support. I've taken
to heart your folks' recommendations and comments, and I'll continue to work
with the Department of Human Services. And, going forward, come up with title
language and refine language that really does benefit the general public. So,
thank you.
CHR. DAVID: Mahalo, Ms. Lee Loy. Anyone else before I take the vote?
Alright, then I will just say this. I really applaud you, Ms. Lee Loy, for bringing
this forward. I think a lot of the discussions that we've had previously regarding
this particular hire brought forward the accountability and transparency that I
think we all would like to strive for. I think everyone is on the same page.
I like the suggestions that Mr. Chung has made and appreciate the other
suggestions, and I look forward to your bringing forward a possible Draft 2 with
these suggested changes. I really feel that the Human Resources would probably
be the best department because they are, as Mayor advised us, they are the point
department on 89 -day contracts. So, thank you very much for your great work
and look forward to seeing a revised version. Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy.
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Council Members, all those in favor of approving Bill 29 please say "aye."
Vote on Bill 29: The motion to recommend passage of Bill 29 on first reading
(Approved) was carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David - 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Council Members, Bill 29 moves forward with a positive
recommendation.
Mr. Clerk, I believe we're done. Thank you. May I have a motion to adjourn,
please?
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 3:11 p.m., Ms. Poindexter moved to adjourn
MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Richards and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, O'Hara, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles,
and Chair David- 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you very much, Council Members. We are adjourned.
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