HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN EMC 2018/07/10 2016-2018Committee on Environmental Management
1311 Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
July 10, 2018
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Environmental Management was called
ORDER: to order at 1:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Ms. Eileen O'Hara, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms. Eileen O'Hara, Chair
Mr. Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Vice Chair
Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member
Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Member
Ms. Karen Eoff, Member
Mr. Dru Mamo Kanuha, Member
Ms. Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms. Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Ms. Jennifer Ruggles, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: (There were none.)
CHR. O'HARA: With that, we're going to close Public Testimony and start with
Communication 969. Clerk, could you read that in?
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
Comm. 969: REQUESTS A PRESENTATION BY BOB KING OF PACIFIC BIO DIESEL
ON THE PROCESSING OF GREASE TRAP WASTE AND ITS DISPOSAL
ISSUES
From Council Member Eileen O'Hara, dated June 14, 2018.
Motion to Close File: Ms. David moved to close file on Comm. 969. Seconded
by Mr. Richards.
CHR. O'HARA: Okay, with that, Mr. King is here to give his presentation. It
looks like it's all queued up, and just some brief background, Mr. King is with
Pacific Biodiesel. They have a plant here on the Big Island, operating in Shipman
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Industrial Park in East Hawaii. It is a very specialized biodiesel production plant
in that it can process highly degraded oils, which is what you recover from grease
trap and make federally specked biodiesel. They also have another business
where they collect grease trap waste and used cooking oil. These are waste items
that fortunately, can be made into a valuable product and reused as fuel. So, with
that, I know we have some issues with some of the disposal of the remnants of the
grease trap waste and this presentation will help enlighten the Council on how this
is done and what those by-products are and what are some suggested uses for
those by-products. Alright, thank you, Mr. King.
(Note: At this time, Bob King of Pacific Biodiesel came forward and gave
a PowerPoint presentation to the members of the Committee. For viewing
of the subject presentation, see the DVD copy of the meeting proceedings
on file in the Clerk's Office. A copy of the PowerPoint presentation is
made a part of the record, see Comm. 969. 1.)
CHR. O'HARA: Alright, thank you, Mr. King. I'm going to open it up for
comments. We also have here Mr. Kucharski from DEM (Department of
Environmental Management) and Deputy Director of Wastewater with him. So,
if you have any questions for those guys. Okay, Aaron.
MR. CHUNG: Maybe if I could call Mr. Kucharski up here and just afford him
an opportunity to respond to the problem that was raised and what kinds of efforts
the County is doing, if any, to address it.
(Note: At this time, Department of Environmental Management Director
William Kucharski came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MR. KUCHARSKI: Thank you. Bill Kucharski, Director of DEM. First, I
would like to agree with Mr. King on the issue of FOG (Fats, Oils, and Grease)
and what it does to our system. We spend thousands of dollars, hundreds of
thousands of dollars annually with maintaining areas of our collection system.
We also have issues with down at Kealakehe for example. That is a prime nesting
area and if we get a grease carry over into that, it's a very dangerous type of
situation for the wild life. So, dealing with the FOG issues is something that, for
us, is also very important, and I think that Bob has identified those things very
adequately.
We do allow both grease traps and grease interceptors in the County. Just to give
you an idea, the standard is 100 parts per million of FOG. If you get a scoop of
vanilla ice cream and you wash out your scooper, you've exceeded the 100
milligrams per liter, just to give you an idea, because ice cream is all fat. So, that
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comes down. You have that issue of this being something that is not a lot that's
allowed in the system. We are pretty much exceeding that.
Part of our issue is that we don't have funds or personnel to police any of the
installations. Right now, that's done by the Department of Health when they go
in, but they have two inspectors and we have like something in the area of 2,800
restaurants on the island. They have two inspectors and we have none. That's to
say that the problem that's identified is real and the service that Pacific Biodiesel
serves on collecting these grease waste and grease trap waste and interceptor
waste, I can tell you, I don't know what we'd do if they were not operating. The
situation would go from not good to really, really bad. So, I'm very much in
support of the process and what happens there.
The issue that we have is one, the waste without pretreatment. Our plants are
designed for about 200 to 400 parts per million of what's called BOD, biological
oxygen demand. That's the measure of how much material is in there that the
bugs that we use can eat. In order to do that, they take oxygen and it's measured
by that. The waste, untreated waste from the facility is around 44,000 and our
plants are designed for like 400. So, before we could accept that, there would
have to be a significant amount of pretreatment that would have to go in, and that
would be between a 90 or 95 percent reduction.
We do have regulatory issues. We do not have the systems that Maui and City
and County have, by any means. They are sewered. City and County of
Honolulu, I think, is about 80 or 90 percent of their wastewater is sewered. We're
down somewhere in the area of 20 to 30 percent. Maui is much higher than we
are as well, so, they have, not only the income, but they have the systems that they
can maintain. We do not have that, and as you know, wastewater has been
characteristically underfunded and ignored for many years. Our last rate increase
was 2007.
Currently, we have the lowest sewer rates in the state. If we doubled our rate of
$27, we'd still be the lowest in the state. Not to sit here and say that nothing's our
fault. It's our fault for not pursuing this sooner in the department and I will be
coming later this summer with a rate increase to start working on this. But, we
have—we're getting more people. All of those things sound like excuses, and
they are. They're reasons but it also comes out as an excuse. So, we don't have
the people and we don't have the money. We're working on that.
The issue that we have with Pacific Biodiesel is can we establish an industrial
wastewater treatment process that would require us to go to EPA (Environmental
Protection Agency) and modify our operating permits? We can do that, but in
order to do that, it's going to take more people and more money. I can't do it
immediately, but we're in discussions. Bob has been coming in and asking for
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our help for as long as I've been in the department, which is now, almost a year
and a half. It seems like a lot longer but it's only been a year and a half.
We're still trying to come up with a way that we can accommodate. One of the
issues that has come—because of the issues that Pacific Biodiesel has, they have
stopped taking new customers. We have gotten calls from restaurants that are
looking to, "What do I do? How do I take care of my grease?" We have recently
put out a process. Essentially, we shut down at Pu`uanahulu. We had a place to
take grease trap waste, but we shut it down because everything was going to
Pacific Biodiesel. When they stopped taking new customers and we had that
problem, we have reopened that and we have provided instruction and direction to
all of the waste and septic haulers, and trying to get the word out to everyone. I
have copies of the procedures that I can provide to the clerk for everyone.
This was done before we had notice of the hearing by the way. It wasn't just done
five days before. Although, that is pretty convenient, I have to admit. But, the
fact is, we have a problem that we need to come to a resolution to. It's in
everyone's interest that we come up with a way to allow, once pretreatment is
done and once Pacific Biodiesel does their due diligence, it has been four years,
they've been operating there, just now coming up with a pretreatment system. So,
it's not like everything is on one side. We will be working with them and going
to readdress the industrial discharge, what the requirements are. I can't commit to
a resolution, but I can commit to trying to find one. Thank you.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you very much. It seems to be a very complicated issue.
But, I've been approached by several restaurant people and I know Ms. Lee Loy
represents a lot of restaurants as well. What they're telling me is that if they
utilize the West Hawaii pumpers, and these guys are charging about, for 700
gallons, that's the grease interceptor, the capacity, they're charging for 3,000
gallons because they've got to take them back to West Hawaii. So, what's the
deal with that? I mean is there anything we can do?
MR. KUCHARSKI: If they're doing grease interceptors, we don't have a facility
here that can take that grease trap waste.
MR. CHUNG: I thought you said in Pu`uanahulu.
MR. KUCHARSKI: We do, that's on the west side. We have nothing on the east
side.
MR. CHUNG: That's why I said they were told by the west side guys they could
do it, but they're going to charge for 3,000 gallons for 700 -gallon pump. So, in
other words, east side is in big trouble then?
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MR. KUCHARSKI: Yes.
MR. CHUNG: Well, I mean, I think I would support you in whatever plan you
can come up with in developing something quick over here. If it means we've got
to raise fees or whatever the case may be, but Mr. King, you talked about using
the water for composting. I don't know if you know, but we have on this island a
long -stalled composting contract that the administration, no offense to the two of
you here, tried to cancel but now it's resurrected. But redoing the contract is like
pulling teeth. I don't know how long—we have been waiting almost one year for
this thing and this thing was done by professional people on the mainland and
now it's handled by Corporation Counsel, and it's taking way too long. I'm just
wondering, could you supply the water to the composting people if we were to
finalize that contract? Would that be a possibility?
MR. KING: Thank you. I have been in touch with them and it's highly likely
that they can take all of our water.
MR. CHUNG: That would be terrific.
MR. KING: They can at least take some of the water. They need to get their
system going and see where they're at. But, I have been following that as well,
and that might have been a solution by now if it would have been going by now.
MR. CHUNG: I've got to, in a nice a way as I can, Corporation Counsel, you
guys have got to do this thing already. You've got to finalize that contract, okay?
Please. Now we see what kinds collateral damage our delay is reeking on our
restaurants, our economy potentially. We've got to move on this thing. Bill, can
you please work with them? It's been way too long.
MR. KUCHARSKI: It's my understanding that the final addition is waiting. It's
in the hands of HER's (Hawaiian Earth Recycling) attorneys.
MR. CHUNG: Okay, good. We have a problem and we have a solution.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Yes, sir. We have tried. We have been working with Bob
trying to get, and I think it's a great idea, particularly in Pu`uanahulu where we
have saline water so there's no water that's going into the compost. We have a
need to improve the level of that, or would like to improve the level of that mulch
into compost. We don't run that operation, but we cannot force HER to take that
water. The executive order that gave us that property from the state does not
allow us to subdivide and put other processors. We've tried to do that. We've
tried to get an area where we could do that. We've told Bob that we'll get him as
much mulch as he wants. We will transport it to a facility if he can get one to be
able to process that water. We've just been unable to
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MR. CHUNG: I don't know exactly what you said, but does that mean we're
going to move quickly on the composting contract that's been lying around or
does that mean something else?
MR. KUCHARSKI: Again, I won't speak for Corporation Counsel, but my
understanding on following this is that there are two parties and both parties need
to agree on the final product. Right now, it's in HER's pocket to finalize that
contract that we're ready to sign.
MR. CHUNG: You guys are ready to sign?
MR. KUCHARSKI: That's my understanding.
MR. CHUNG: Joe, come real quickly. All you need to give is a yes or no
answer. Is that true? Is it in their hands and are we ready to sign? That would
make me the happiest guy.
(Note: At this time, Corporation Counsel Joseph Kamelamela came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KAMELAMELA: This is Joe Kamelamela, Corporation Counsel. Good
afternoon, Chair, and—okay, that's kind of optimistic but
MR. CHUNG: So, not true in other words?
MR. KAMELAMELA: No, we're close to it because we do have a meeting next
week, but the final is with them right now.
MR. CHUNG: So, sort of true.
MR. KAMELAMELA: Yeah.
MR. CHUNG: Okay, good. We're real close, right?
MR. KAMELAMELA: Very close.
MR. CHUNG: I heard we were real close like about a half year ago, but we're
real close?
MR. KAMELAMELA: I think I used months, six months.
MR. CHUNG: Let's go with weeks. Okay, thank you. Goodbye.
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MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski. Sorry if I seem to have mis characterized
that we're almost there.
CHR. O'HARA: Alright, are you done, Mr. Chung? Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. Thanks Bill. Good to see you, Bob. Okay
echoing, once again, what Councilman Chung has said, if—backup a little bit.
The wastewater that Pacific Biodiesel was collecting and shipping to Maui, is that
water acceptable to go into any of our wastewater treatment?
MR. KUCHARSKI: Right now, no, sir.
MR. RICHARDS: Because it's not it's still too
MR. KUCHARSKI: The composition would upset any of the operations either in
Kealakehe or in Hilo. It's much too high.
MR. RICHARDS: But that water, after it goes through the pretreatment system,
is acceptable?
MR. KUCHARSKI: It depends what the end of that pretreatment system is. Bob
said he should be able to get it down to about 600. We could probably do that but
we have to check. It might—there may be ways. Again, the plant's designed for
about 200 and we're taking, right now, between two and four. With the small
volumes, we could probably take it, but that's what I need to check on and see
what that does to our permit because this is permitted under EPA and DOH
Department of Health).
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, let me use Councilman Chung's technique. Okay, yes
or noes, that'll work better. So, I got that. The wastewater that we have that was
shipped to Maui, can that be used, as is, in the compost?
MR. KUCHARSKI: My understanding, yes, but I don't run the compost
operation.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, hang on. Bob?
MR. KING: In open compost like we are proposing, yes, absolutely.
MR. RICHARDS: Alright. So, it looks to be solutions on the horizon here.
Pretty good. Then, as far as the secondary treatment that you're doing, that is a
little prototypical but it looks like it's going to pan out and then that water, you're
going to check on that, Bill, to find out exactly if we can put this in our systems?
Long story short, this has been a problem on the east side and west side. It's
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going to impact our overall economy if we don't resolve this thing very quickly.
It's already becoming a problem and I appreciate, Bob, what you guys have been
doing, shipping water to Maui. That makes as about much sense as—we don't
have to go there.
We, as Council, have to move as quickly as we can with our departments, as
quickly as they can, both Environmental Management but also Corporation
Counsel has to move quickly on this. Because if not, we're going to adversely
impact the businesses, number one, and we don't want to be non-compliant with
the EPA. I got that part, but we have to push this, going a lot faster that what
we've been going right now. So, give us a timeline.
MR. KUCHARSKI: I will check and by the first of August, I will have an answer
from EPA as to what impact it would have to include this industrial discharge.
We have to take a look at the process. If you give me three weeks, I will come
back with a definitive answer, and then I need to know from Pacific Biodiesel
what level they can treat their waste to. I need that to know what we can do, so,
this is sort of a two part.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, great. So Bob, we're going to have that answer in a
couple of weeks, is that correct?
MR. KING: So, there's a couple of things here now. We're talking about
timeline. We're talking about—we could have a digester put together at our place
if I had a quarter million dollars to spend on it in six months. I've got to tell you
it's a little frustrating. We're going to spend this kind money to do our
wastewater and I don't know how many other people on the island would like to
have their wastewater treated and we'd also be spending that. Meanwhile, there is
a digester at the Hilo Wastewater Treatment Plant that's not being used. It's
frustrating. We're going to duplicate, just for us, what they could do, I believe,
for a lot more people. Did I open another can of worms for you, Bill?
MR. RICHARDS: Back at you, Bill.
MR. KUCHARSKI: The digesters right now can be operated. I'm not certain
what the CIP (Capital Improvement Project) budget for that is, but they are also
we have two, only one is operating, and it is operating for the wastewater that
we're treating, which is 1.9, about 2 million gallons a day. It's not that simple. It
has to go through the whole system and that is a slug that's coming in that we
can't treat. I don't think it's as simple as Bob put out. But, we can check on that,
on the process, whether there could be a direct inject into that, but I don't think
it's designed for that kind of slug.
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MR. RICHARDS: But we're going to know the answer about that within the next
three weeks?
MR. KUCHARSKI: I will give you an answer by the first of August.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, hang on. So, coming back, Mr. Kamelamela, are we
going to have a contract, and you said weeks, are we going to have a contract
done by August? Let the record reflect that Mr. Kamelamela said yes. So, we
have an answer within three weeks, is that what I'm understanding? Everybody
nod their head yes. Joe says yes.
MR. KUCHARSKI: Yes, sir.
MR. RICHARDS: Bill is saying yes with reservations and Bob is going to be
working on getting his side, correct? Okay, I yield. Thank you.
CHR. O'HARA: Alright. Thank you, Mr. Richards. Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: That was great news. August of this year, right? I had a question
because Bob made a comment. He said that the water, based on his
understanding, of course you guys have to go and see what the protocols are, but
could be used on open composting. But my understanding is this is going to be
closed vessel, right? So, does that make a difference or is it better?
MR. KING: The only issue with closed composting is it doesn't use as much
water. So, they're definitely willing to put it in there. They haven't anticipated
putting liquid waste into that compost, so, we're going to have to work with them
on how to actually get it blended in.
MR. CHUNG: Okay, but this is not going to slow down our contract, right? I
mean because it's exclusive of one another. It's something that you guys have to
work out with the contractor, right? Hopefully you guys can come together.
MR. KING: Absolutely. It could only help. There's no way that could be an
issue. It's got to be positive.
MR. CHUNG: This is the greatest presentation. Thank you very much.
CHR. O'HARA: Are you done there? Okay, anyone else with questions?
Okay, Ms. Lee Loy.
MS. LEE LOY: Making Mr. Chung happy is incredibly challenging, so, thank
you folks very much. Mr. Chung and I have had these conversations because we
have the most industrial and commercial lands in the Hilo district, between
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Council Districts 2 and 3. So, we hear this all the time. So, everything I heard is
exceptional. I had a few questions regarding—and if you can answer, Mr. King,
how many gallons is Maui accepting and how large are their fields? Because I'm
trying to get to some gallon to acre ratio if you know, because as a planner, I want
to know whatever type of composting facility or facilities that we build can accept
the capacities that we have now and grow into the future. Because something
Mr. Richards touched upon is we're stalling economic potential because
restaurants can't get their permits to operate. So, we're squashing jobs. I'm
looking at a picture right now of 30 employees that you have. There's so much
more potential if we could do this. So, help me understand that so that we can
champion the capital improvement so that we can really get some economic
opportunities here on this island.
MR. KING: Okay, so your first question was how many gallons and how much
land is the composting on Maui? The Maui facility, including all the waste it
collects on the island of Maui, plus the Big Island's waste, is probably processing,
I would say 30,000 gallons per day of water. They've got a 16 -acre site that they
do composting on. They compost about 35,000 tons of green waste per year, plus
the sludge from the three wastewater treatment plants. I don't have the total, but I
can get that for you if you'd like. It's a very robust facility that's been taking in a
myriad of different pieces and covering it all every day for 25 years now.
The second piece, I think, was the economics of this and yes, it's trying to create
jobs. You're trying to get more industry in here, more users, but I've heard
stories from other people who are trying to expand their operations and it's a
nightmare to deal with. A lot of different ways but wastewater in particular. The
cost of pumping a grease trap on the Big Island, with our surcharge to get it to
Maui, is roughly twice the price of any other island. If we use the landfill option
of taking it to the landfill, thank you for opening that up, if we'd use the landfill
option, it's three times the price of any other island. The restaurants are, I guess
it's the cost of doing business, but they're not pleased paying three times what
everybody else is, just because we haven't figured it out here. It's money that
could be spent doing other things.
MS. LEE LOY: Mr. King, do you have that, like you said, 30,000 gallons per day
and they operate a 16 -acre site.
MR. KING: Yes.
MS. LEE LOY: Okay. Mr. Kucharski, we have two pumps, one is not
operational. You said we're doing about two million gallons there. What is the
capacity?
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MR. KUCHARSKI: That is the digesters that are in the Hilo plant. We have two
units, and my understanding is one of those units is not functioning and has not
been for a while, but, it's still sufficient because the plant was over designed. I
think we're starting to mix up things. If we come in and if the waste if HER
would accept the wastewater that currently has now with the high BOD
(Biochemical Oxygen Demand), it would not need to go into the system. If
pretreatment were to occur, then the system could accept it. So, if a pretreatment
system is going to be installed, then during that time of that installation, if that
water could be used at Pu`uanahulu or anywhere, if HER would accept that, then
that resolves that issue. Then, once the pretreatment is in, if it can go to the waste
treatment facility, then you have sort of a final solution. So, I think there are
really two steps, before there's pretreatment and after pretreatment.
MS. LEE LOY: Yes, I'm liking what I'm hearing but at the end of the day, I
think we're paralyzing ourselves. We have options, we just need everybody on
the same page. This is a critical path for us. We're really crippling ourselves here
if we're not managing our waste. I will say it nicer than Mr. Chung will. Please,
put this on the top of your priority list. It will go a long way to managing our
waste for this entire island. Please. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. O'HARA: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Does anyone else have any questions
or comments? Okay, Ms. Eoff
MS. EOFF: Just a quick question. I know when we were discussing locations for
composting, Pu`uanahulu was kind of ruled out because of availability of water or
that there was no availability of water. Will this help us to reconsider that as a
site if we were able to transport water?
MR. KUCHARSKI: Bill Kucharski. If you would like to see the contract in
2020, yes. But right now, the contract that has been negotiated establishes the
location on the east side, and if we change that again, then I think there are going
to be more contractual issues that we would have to face. So, there may be things
we can do there, but, at this point in time, I'm not certain that would be my first
choice. Five years ago, maybe, but at this point in time, that would not be
something that I would probably move forward.
MS. EOFF: Okay, thank you.
CHR. O'HARA: Okay, is that it? I just want to sum up some things and maybe
ask a couple questions myself. One of the things that Ms. Eoff just asked is does
that opens us up for composting at Pu`uanahulu? I think you need to qualify that
to be either windrow composting, which it does open us up to at Pu`uanahulu,
and/or in vessel composting, which is not because of the way the contract has
been modified. So, just understanding when you say composting, it's one or the
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other. But, right now, Pu`uanahulu is windrowing the green waste, but it is so dry
over there, it doesn't compost of itself. It's also a rather windy site, so the wetter
that compost, if you're going to windrow it, the better. So, it could absorb all of
the water with the high BOD's that is coming out of the grease trap separation.
Right now, it's a matter of finalizing the contract because in essence, Pacific
Biodiesel has a long history of synergy with the composting company that we're
currently under contract with. In fact, Mr. King showed us an image of the
receiving area for the FOG's that was built at Pu`uanahulu. I believe that was like
2006, a long time ago. Because at the time, we were working on a contract with a
different composter who they also have worked with and worked with on Maui.
So, it's really easy for them to form that synergy.
I think what's holding HER back right now is they want to have a finalized
contract before they make any changes to their current production plan in which
case, they will probably accept. But, I want to commend Pacific Biodiesel. They
have been operating on island for four or five years now at least and dealing with
this issue without any direct assistance from the County in terms of being able to
dispose of that wastewater. It's important, because as Mr. King explained, it's
been twice as expensive to send it back to be processed on either Maui or Oahu
as it would be if they were operating on those islands. The option to take it to
Pu`uanahulu, I don't know that the Council understands, Mr. Kucharski, but that
option involved special handling. So, that's why the fees are three times as much.
You can't put this stuff into landfill, it's got high BTU's, British Thermal Units.
It will cause the rubbish dump to burn. So, you have to do things to modify that.
You have to mix it with solids to put it into the landfill. That's why that cost is so
high. So, either we get our wastewater plants capable of dealing with industrial
water, which at this point, neither of them can take industrial water, and that
requires some front-end processing, which we may or may not have the
capabilities. I'm not sure with the equipment that we have on hand that we need
new equipment, or does it mean just modifying our permits with the EPA? I'm
not real clear on that and something I think we need to identify. But, in terms of
solutions, it's definitely preferable if we can take this substance and use it to make
something beneficial, high quality compost, high quality fuel. These are good
things to have out of our waste stream, rather than just processing it in our
wastewater plant and discharging that processed water somewhere.
So, I think the value is in making the additional products, the value-added
product. Speaking of that, it is a bit disappointing that, once again, the County of
Hawaii, who went through, in the previous administration went through the effort
of adding biodiesel to the purchasing list, has now once again taken it off Pacific
Biodiesel, I believe, has accounts with other municipalities and counties across
the state to sell what's called B20, 20 percent biodiesel and 80 percent petroleum
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diesel. This is a blend that doesn't void your warranties and things like that and
most large fleets are very comfortable running a B20 fuel. But, we're not doing
that here at the County of Hawaii and I'm not really sure why. It's not just a
pricing issue because we have some people in our departments who just aren't
convinced, for whatever reason, that biodiesel is a good product.
So, this is another issue that we want to address as we try to increase our use of
renewables. Biodiesel fuel is part of renewable energy and we really want to be
embracing that as a county. So, that's another thing I wanted to bring up in this
presentation that we didn't really discuss, is that the County of Hawaii is not
using it whereas the military does on Oahu and HELCO (Hawai`i Electric Light
Company) does here and other fleets use it. Anyway, any last comments? Seeing
none, I guess we can wrap this up. Thank you so much, Mr. King, for coming
over and enlightening us on that. Thank you, Mr. Kucharski, for being here. I
will ask for a motion to—we have the motion on the floor. All in favor of filing
this, please say "yes."
Vote on Comm. 969: The motion to close file on Comm. 969 was carried by the
(Approved) following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kanuha, Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards,
Ruggles, and Chair O'Hara — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. O'HARA: Okay, could I have a motion to
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(There were none.)
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
(There were none.)
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MENT:
Approved:
July 10, 2018
There being no further business, at 2:48 p.m., Mr. Richards moved to adjourn the
meeting. Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff, Kanuha,
Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards, Ruggles, and
Chair O'Hara — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. O'HARA: Thank you so much.
Ms. Eileen O'Hara, Chair
Environmental Management Committee
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