HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN PWMTC 2019/02/04 2018-2020Committee on Public Works and Mass Transit
2nd Session
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii
February 4, 2019
CALL TO
The regular meeting of the Committee on Public Works and Mass Transit
ORDER:
was called to order at 1:42 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by
Ms.
Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present:
Ms.
Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Chair
Mr.
Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Vice Chair
Ms.
Karen Eoff, Member, Member
Mr.
Aaron S. Y. Chung, Member (came in later)
Ms.
Maile Medeiros David, Member (came in later)
Ms.
Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms.
Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Mr.
Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Member (came in later)
Ms.
Rebecca Villegas, Member
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: The following individuals registered to speak and came forward when called by
the Chair:
Craig `Bo" Kahui
(representing the Villages of Laiopua
and Laiopua 2020)
R. Janis Parker:
Danny Grant -Johnson:
(representing Disability
Rights Hawaii)
Hannah Hedrick:
Res. 37-19 (Comm. 68), in support.
Res. 38-19 (Comm. 72), in support.
Comm. 75, comment.
Comm. 75, comment.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you Hannah. Is there any other testifiers here today?
Alright, with that, I'm going to close testimony. If it's okay with my colleagues, I
kind of want to restructure our agenda just to keep some items in context. And so,
my plan actually is to go with Resolution 37, which is the dedication of roadway
first; and then Communication 75, which is our presentation from our
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Mass Transit Office. And then following that will be the presentation by PATH
(Peoples Advocacy for Trails Hawai`i); followed by the Resolution 38, just to
keep those two items in context. Any objections from my colleagues?
Change Order As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members,
of Business: the following item was taken out of order:
Res. 37-19: ACCEPTS THE DEDICATION OF ROAD LOTS A AND D (MANAWALEA
STREET) AND ROAD LOTS B AND C (KA`EKA STREET), IDENTIFIED AS
TAX MAP KEY: 7-4-021:044, SITUATED AT KEAHUOLU, DISTRICT OF
NORTH KONA, ISLAND AND COUNTY OF HAWAII, STATE OF HAWAII
FROM FHT KAMAKANA, LLC, A HAWAII LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
The County seeks dedication of these road lots for public roadway purposes, pursuant
to Chapter 23 of the Hawaii County Code.
Reference: Comm. 68
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 37-19 Seconded by Ms. David.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Mr. Yamamoto for being here. If you could just
give us a brief overview of what Resolution 37-19 presents.
(Note: At this time, Public Works Director David Yamamoto and Deputy
Director Allan Simeon came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MR. YAMAMOTO: They're dedicating this road to connect the road extension
to the County of Hawaii. At the current time, all of DPW's (Department of
Public Works) issues have been resolved, except for the traffic lights. At current,
the developer is working with HELCO (Hawai`i Electric Light Company) with
the utility easement, and until that gets approved, I understand the lights have not
been energized. So, we haven't been able to inspect it.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Mr. Yamamoto for being here and Mr. Simeon for
being here. With that, I'll open the floor to any questions of our Director or
Deputy Director. Ms. Eoff
MS. EOFF: Thank you, Madam Chair. The lights that you speak of, is that at
Ane Keohokalole or up at the top?
MR. YAMAMOTO: At the top. It seems to extend the road from Kainaliu
Drive down to the bottom section of that same road that was partially built. Just
this section right?
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MS. EOFF: This road's in my district, but I'm trying to understand. The entire
roadway would connect from Ane Keohokalole Highway up to actually the
Villages of Laiopua at the top, right?
MR. YAMAMOTO: Correct.
MS. EOFF: So you could go all the way through. But, this is only one phase that
we're accepting dedication of today. Correct? So that would be from
Ane Keohokalole about half way up.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yes.
MS. EOFF: Okay, but the signal light issue is part of this roadway, this
dedication or phase two?
MR. YAMAMOTO: Only street lights.
MR. SIMEON: I believe this issue is with the street lights.
Ms. Eoff: The street lights, not the signal lights, I'm sorry. Oh, okay.
MR. SIMEON: Yes, not the signal lights, yeah.
MS. EOFF: So, are they going be activated when we actually dedicate at this
time, or
MR. SIMEON: We're hoping that this issue will be resolved by the developer
and HELLO. So, unless those issues are not resolved, then we cannot really
accept that portion of the project, and it cannot be dedicated.
MS. EOFF: But that's in the Phase 2. But today, we're just asked to accept
Phase 1, correct?
MR. SIMEON: I believe so.
MS. EOFF: And everything's working on Phase 1. All of the necessary lights?
Well, as I think our testifier from Kona stated, it will be really important to get the
Phase 2 up to dedicable standards so we can actually make this a connector road
and not a dead end. But it is also good that we are getting there, and that the
people who live in the affordable housing projects and the whole area can get
MR. SIMEON: Yeah, it would be good if that issue's resolved. Learning from
previous developments, there are still street lights that are not being turned on
because the developer hasn't improved it to dedicable standards that the County
can accept. So, we're hoping that it's going to be resolved between the two
parties and we can accept the full alignment.
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MS. EOFF: Thank you.
CHR. LEE LOY: Ms. Eoff, do you yield? Thank you. Any other questions?
Alright, well seeing none. Motion on the floor is to approve Resolution 37-19.
All those in favor?
Vote on Res. 37-19: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 37-19 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Poindexter,
Richards, Villegas, and Chair Lee Loy — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. LEE LOY: Moving on, Mr. Clerk. Communication 75.
Comm. 75: REQUESTS A BRIEFING BY THE MASS TRANSIT AGENCY REGARDING
PASSENGER SAFETY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BIKE RACKS,
BUS ROUTES, AND BUS STOPS
From Council Member Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, dated January 15, 2019.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to close file on
Comm. 37. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. LEE LOY: In the audience today, we have Brenda along with SSFM,
(SSFM International, Inc.) correct? So, if I could call you folks to the table.
(Note: At this time, Mass Transit Administrator Brenda Carreira and
Accountant 11 Trixy Miller came forward to address the members of the
Committee.)
MS. CARREIRA: Good Afternoon, Brenda Carreira. I also have Trixy Miller,
she's our Accountant II, in case there's any issues of budget or that sort of stuff
CHR. LEE LOY: As a matter of process, if you wouldn't mind identifying
yourself before going in so that our recording can pick up the name.
MS. CARREIRA: Brenda Carreira, Mass Transit Administrator.
MS. MILLER: Trixy Miller, Accountant II.
CHR. LEE LOY: This was actually Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder's Communication,
so with that, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, I'll give the floor to you.
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MR. KANEALII-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, Chair. Thank you for coming
today, I appreciate your time. There's a lot of things bouncing around, and I had
a few constituents concerns. I'm here to address a few of those and also get you
to kind of touch bases with Mass Transit in general and get a feel for where we
sit, where we're at, and things you're concerned about; things you want to get
addressed. And, how about you kind of give us a quick breakdown, overview,
what's going on with you, and where you're at.
MS. CARREIRA: Okay, thank you. I was wondering and I would ask
permissionI wanted to answer some of the questions that came up with the
testifiers if that's okay with you and the rest of the Council.
Okay, first of all, I'd like to apologize to Mr. Johnson. It is true that some of our
busses, many do not the lifts are not working. We're trying to work on that. I
cannot say when they would come into—that they would be operable, but it is
true that we're able to help with Paratransit. That is not the best thing to do. We
would look for the new busses, which unfortunately, any of the big buses we're
talking about two years from now, frankly. But I do apologize that it has come up
before and I'm very sorry for that.
And somebody mentioned the Hub and Spoke. Now, I have been looking at the
Mass Transit plan, which SSFM has done such a beautiful job on that. There is
we have a bid right now out for RFP for two vans and four minibuses. When I
say minibuses, that's seats of over 25. Twenty-five seats. It might be a little less
with ADA lifts, it just depends on what kind of minibus that is. I'm hoping to
wrap that up this month and get a proposal. That is something, my vision is to
actually start something in Puna or Pahoa about the Hub and Spoke, especially
with the four minibuses. I know in the master plan it is a little later, but anything
that I can move forward, that's what I hope to do. But again, I was told with the
minibuses, nine months to one year. So they could, if everything got wrapped up,
be here, the earliest maybe the end of this year or the first quarter of next year.
And that is something that I would hope to put into place at that time.
Now, as far as what's been going on with Mass Transit. So, I started on
November 1. When I started we had 14 buses that were available. Now, we have
33 Hele On routes. We were unable to—we had to rent out to Polynesian
Adventures Tours and Robert's Tours, because if not, we'd be cancelling routes.
Sometimes it went down to nine. Nine to fourteen. What I'm happy to say is as
of January, those numbers came up between like 16—we went as high as 21. We
have never been up to 21 since, I don't know if it was 2017 for two years. So, I'm
extremely happy with my mechanics and my supervisor that they've just done a
great job. Now, depending on breakdowns and stuff like that, it could be between
17 and 21. Like today, I think we're at 17. We might be up to 18 or 19 by the
end of the day.
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So, we are actually able sometimes to have spare buses so that we can go out and
rescue. Right now in fact we did that today. So, that's a real positive thing. I
expect it to increase in numbers, however, probably maybe to 24 or 25.
The other vehicles that we have, we're looking ata lot of them are the Honolulu
buses; unbelievable mileage but their maintenance is great and we had to buy
engines, because they're over 500,000 miles. So, they're still not working. We
have one that we gave to the University of Hawaii, so we're doing that, but new
buses—the hydrogen bus is in Oahu. It has the Hele On name. It's through the
University of Hawaii. We're still working on infrastructure. It is a minibus, so
and what is great about that is even with fueling, it's only 15 minutes to refuel
that bus. It's something that I can envision whether it's going to be for the
Waimea shuttle—if we are able to fuel here, we would be in Hilo, but right now,
the fueling station is in West Hawaii at NAPA, okay. What else?
What I also wanted to say, and I'm so thankful to Trixy that she was able to do
this for me. I tried to get a breakdown of how much money we had spent, and it
has come up how much money have we paid out to Polynesian Adventure Tours
and Robert's Tours. And so, I have a breakdown from July to December, but I
asked Trixy today to look at January so we could see the difference. And what
I'd like to say is, from Polynesian Adventure Tours, like in December last year,
we're looking at $486,000 that we paid that month. In January, that number went
down to $319,000. We saved—it's a difference of $167,000. And I attribute that
for the buses coming back online. With Robert's, December was $132,000
around there and in January it's $112,000. So we went down $20,000. And
again, that attributed to the fact that we had buses. And the drivers could use our
County -owned buses. So, that's a positive thing.
Now, I know I've only been working for three months, but one of the big things
that I wanted to do was to get more buses on the road. But not just get them out,
but getting them out safely, so that we have less breakdowns. We do have
breakdowns but it's less. We're not towing as much and I know there was a
question that was asked of me before outside, from Kona to Hilo, the towing cost
is $1,190.00 just from Kona to Hilo. We haven't done as many as we used to. I
don't know what it was before, so, I'm very happy about that.
It has been, as far as bike racks, what I wanted to explain is, in the County -owned
vehicles, we have bike racks. In the private buses, in the current Hele On
contract, that was not a requirement that was made of them, okay, but Polynesian
Adventure Tours voluntarily now with their eight minibuses, we're in the process
of purchasing the hardware. We gave them the bike racks, but now we have to
attach them to the vehicles. So, we are going to be paying for that so that they can
go onto the vehicles. One of the reasons, I think, with private vendors, and only
because of my 13 years of experience with them. For the big buses, it's really
difficult to put tight bike racks. They are traditionally tour buses. Tour buses and
clients who pay for buses do not want bike racks, frankly. They are not able—if
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they were to put bike racks right now, they would be unable to use the buses for
other reasons. Now, the buses are not just used for Hele On. They use them for
nighttime dine-arounds; all kinds of things that Polynesian Adventure Tours and
Robert's does. So what I'm able to do is tell them, if you have big buses, they do
have luggage space. For me, if they're able to strap down and secure the bike
racks, we have no problems with putting that in.
Now, in the new contract, I added in the bike racks. And those are going to be
required. And we'll just see how it goes as far as they're still going back and
forth. We haven't gotten the proposals yet. But, I knew that might be an issue,
but we have to have the bike racks. People are asking for them. All of them, the
new contract, you must have operable ADA lifts. That is part of the contract, so I
added that in. So, I'm hoping that will alleviate some of the problems. Now, with
the new budget, having the GE taxes, thank you very much for everybody fighting
for that. That is what's going to keep us afloat, and it's helping us so much.
Regarding the buses, new buses, because since 2014, there were no grants or any
kind of contracts for buses. We are behind by 16 motor coaches that we could
have gotten probably during the last four years. So, I have like 18 to 20 working
now. It might get up to 25. The master plan says 55 buses. That's 30 more
buses. The first ones coming again, as I said, is going to be two years for now.
For this current year, I'm hoping to finish it this month, would be to ask for five
big buses. In the next budget, again with the grant, another five. So, hopefully
we'd be able to order ten more buses this year, but we're looking for them not
coming until 2021. If we can get them earlier that would be great. So, that's
something that we're looking for, but thank you very much.
So the GE tax is a big help for us. It's already helped us, but I'm still through the
master plan, trying to follow it as much as possible. It's been a very challenging
three months, but also very exciting, and I thank everybody for all their
willingness to help. All the Departments' staffs have worked very hard, and again
for this mechanics' staff, it's amazing what they have been able to do. And you
know, having an accountant and with the budget, everybody's been such a big
help. And I'd like to say I've been trying to build relationships and a lot of
communication. Thank you.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you very much. I appreciate you
coming today. I'm very, very glad to hear you've been able to turnaround that
department from where it was a few months ago and do so much. One thing that
stood out to me is that I talked to different people, was the towing of buses when
they breakdown and our cost. And I'm interested in pursuing that a little bit more
as far as helping to get a tow truck or something that would help the County get
its fleet back when there is a breakdown. I do appreciate all the information you
gave us. I feel like you touched on everything I needed to know. I'd like to open
the floor to any other members who has something they'd like to talk to you as
well.
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CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Mr. Richards.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. And thank you, Director, for coming in.
Good talking story with you a couple weeks ago. It's starting to get things going.
You made a comment that you are taking the master plan that was delivered by
SSFM. Your opinion now, you've worked with it a bit. You like to plan, this is
something you're embracing going forward.
MS. CARREIRA: Yes, sir.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. I like direct answers, I like that. Next question, you
made a comment about wanting to order ten buses. Roughly speaking, that's a
$5 million investment, between $5 and $6 million, and you want to do that sooner
rather than later. It's that what I'm hearing?
MS. CARREIRA: Yes, there is a federal grant that I can request those buses
under that grant.
MR. RICHARDS: I like the sound of that even better. Okay, and you and I had
the conversation about possibly forward contracting to identify and pick a
number, whatever you felt that you could deliver consistently every day, so we
could have a forward contract for hired buses. Where are you with that thought
process?
MS. CARREIRA: Okay, so, in the current contract, or I think in the previous
contracts, what it's always been is the contract goes out and whoever gets it, they
have to provide the drivers using County -owned vehicles. When we don't have
vehicles then we call them and say, "Hey, can you help us out," which we've been
doing, except for there is a separate contract with Robert's for three vehicles.
Now in the new contract, looking at—because with Kona, it is so difficult
sometimes to get out there and people are waiting, you know, two to three hours
and delaying and we don't have a facility out there. What we fashioned in the
new contract is to have the private -owned buses be in the Kona, North Kohala and
Ka`u areas. We would take care of all the Hilo, Pahoa; I think there's Honoka`a; I
think Volcano on this side. So, the private would go private -owned vehicles on
that side for most of them, except South Kohala resorts, yes.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, that makes sense, because if you have a breakdown
here, you're close to home versus being on the outside.
MS. CARREIRA: Yes, so that's what we've put into this contract which they are
contemplating. Because I knew we don't have 33 buses or 50 buses, and we've
been renting them anyway, you know. And I just want to make it easier, because
serving the public to be reliable and on time. Easier for a private contractor in
Kona to get a rescue bus there than mind sending two mechanics that might take
them three hours to get out there, and the people are just waiting too long.
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MR. RICHARDS: Okay, are you optimistic as far as delivering that contract?
understand you are talking story about it right now.
MS. CARREIRA: Well, it's already out there. We sent it out in December, and
so now it's just questions and answers in whether they're going to do a proposal.
And, we're hoping the new contract would start in April. Usually it starts like last
year July, but it was extended. So, on April 1st, that's what I would I would
expect. You know, put a bid on it and it goes in—that's the way it's going to be.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, as always, I'm asking and your anticipation would be
able to save some money on this going forward, okay.
MS. CARREIRA: Yes.
MR. RICHARDS: And I'm curious to hear the details a little bit later. Final
thing, we had, as I'm sure Council Members know, Hele On is also acting as a
school bus for some of the schools, west side, and we had a problem. Can you
articulate on that or
MS. CARREIRA: I, you know, I know that we are doing that with the private
schools and we're doing that at some of the public schools. Frankly, I think
because there are already school buses out there, I think that's an issue as to why
Hele On is still doing that versus taking care of people going to work, and I don't
know what the social needs are. But, we continue to do it, that is still something I
believe the Mayor wants us to do to help our students. So, that has not been taken
away. We're still doing it.
MR. RICHARDS: Obviously, there was a delay and people were concerned
about the health and welfare of the kids. Your expectation that your reliability
will be going up as we move forward?
MS. CARREIRA: Yes, as I get more buses. What has been happening with the
delays is sometimes I have to wait till one route ends, then take that same bus and
start another one. But if the other bus has a delay, it's going to delay this part.
So, what I'm trying to do is to be able dedicate a certain bus, if you will, to there
and get some spare buses. And that's why trying to get more buses, you know,
that's what I'm hoping to have. And we've been able to do that, but when we go
less than 16 and stuff I don't have spares. And then I just call Robert's or
Polynesian to see if they can help us.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, I look forward to the new contract that you're talking
about, and I'll echo what Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder said that I like what I'm
hearing about the direction of Mass Transit. I yield.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Mr. Richards. Ms. Kierkiewicz.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair Lee Loy. Hi Ms. Carreira, great to see
you again. I just wanted to thank you and your agency for all of their great work
over the last few months. You have, I think, made a lot of positive progress, and I
think this Council is very pleased with the direction you are taking the agency
into. I had a question about the four minibuses that are currently out for RFP.
You mentioned that we could potentially start deploying these minibuses in Pahoa
as part of the Hub and Spoke motto, and I just wondered if you had prioritized
where those potential hubs would be located.
MS. CARREIRA: I haven't really looked at it, but I was looking through the
Mass Transit plan, then I'm going to check in with SSFM to make sure we're
deployed in the correct way. But, you know, frankly in Pahoa people have gone
through a lot, and so I thought introducing something new in that district is
appropriate, and I think we can do it using the flex -routes and stuff like that. I'll
have more help from SSFM, and then we can determine where exactly it's going
to go. At least, for the four minis, but that is my vision, to start there.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, that sounds great. I know that the people of Puna
certainly rely on public transportation. And you said in about nine months to a
year?
MS. CARREIRA: Nine months to a year. That's what the manufacturer was
telling me. So on the good side, the positive side would be the end of this year. If
not, the first quarter of next year. The minibuses take less time; the big buses are
just, yeah
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: The big buses take a bit longer because they need to be
built to spec, correct? It's not something that you can just buy off of the shelf.
MS. CARREIRA: No. And what we're also trying to do is to see if we can—if I
can work with the other counties. Sometimes it might be faster if we buy in bulk.
But you know, a lot of it has to do with contracts.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: A lot of that coordination.
MS. CARREIRA: All that, yes.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, thank you. Well, please keep me posted, and I just
want to say for the record that you were incredibly responsive when I sent you a
couple of emails. There were constituents concerned about not being able to get
their bikes onto buses, and you assured me that RFP's were being updated to
require that of the contracted vendor. So, thank you so much. Madam Chair, I
yield the floor.
MS. CARREIRA: You're welcome.
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CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, any others? I really didn't have any questions
other than, this has been the most refreshing update we have gotten from Mass
Transit in the last 28, 29 months. And, it really speaks volumes of the leadership
that we have there now. So, Ms. Carreira, thank you so much, and I do want to
also thank SSFM for providing such a wonderful masterplan that created the
framework to get, you know, everybody in their lanes. But more importantly, you
highlighting the successes in just the last three months, I'm sure all of my
colleagues are feeling it right now. And from what I gather or what I can see,
we're already seeing about $187,000 in cost saving just by what you've done to
implement some of the changes there.
The contracts, very, very smart, and how you're retooling what we have within
the contracts to provide more services. Just reliable, on time. And, the final
point, I think the capacity with buying power. I think that's another smart
direction where if we reach out to other Counties who are in the process of
purchasing vehicles or buses, the capacity in number could potentially drive down
the cost of one particular bus. But, I recognize there's a lot that has to happen
through our procurement when we try and purchase with other Counties. With
that, you know, thank you so much.
For right now, we have a motion to close file on Communication 75. All those in
favor?
Vote on Comm. 75: The motion to close file on Comm. 75 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Poindexter,
Richards, Villegas, and Chair Lee Loy — 9.
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. LEE LOY: Moving on, Mr. Clerk, if you could read in Communication 71.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to return to the order of business.
of Business:
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
(Note: Comm. 75 was taken up previously, out of order.)
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Comm. 71: REQUESTS A PRESENTATION BY TINA CLOTHIER, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF PEOPLES ADVOCACY FOR TRAILS HAWAII,
REGARDING VISION ZERO GOALS, STRATEGIES, AND POLICIES
TO PREVENT TRAFFIC -RELATED FATALITIES AND INJURIES
From Council Member Susan L. K. Lee Loy, dated January 14, 2019.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to close file on Comm. 71.
Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. LEE LOY: Tina, thank you. I just want to point out to the rest of my
colleagues, within our folders we have Communication 71.1, and that's a hard
copy of the presentation that Ms. Clothier will be presenting to us. So, if you
folks need to follow along, there is the hard copy.
(Note: At this time, Executive Director of People's Advocacy for Trails
Tina Clothier came forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MS. CLOTHIER: Mahalo, Chair Lee Loy, I also want to say hello to Vice Chair
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder and the esteemed members of the Transportation
Committee.
(Note: At this time, Ms. Clothier came forward and provided a
PowerPoint presentation to the members of the Committee. For
viewing of subject presentation, see the DVD copy of the meeting
proceedings on file in the Clerk's Office. A copy of the PowerPoint
presentation is made a part of the record, see Comm. 71.1.)
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Ms. Clothier. As she mentioned, any questions
from my colleagues? Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: I just wanted to relate to you one of my pet peeves, okay. I mean
it relates to safety. Because I'm a driver, I'm also a pedestrian. I don't see
anything in here that relates to this. You know, I think one of the most dangerous
situations is when pedestrians choose to walk on a green light when they're not
supposed to walk. Because, you know, the drivers have a lot of things they have
to be concerned about, right? And to add a person coming from their blind side,
like on a bicycle for example. On the sidewalk crossing the green light when
there's a no -walk signal, you know, one of those. Or, guys just kind of walking
from the blind side, usually. You know, if they're walking face on, you can see
them, you can live with it, but coming from the blind side when you have a
right—green light and you can turn right, that's really dangerous. And it's a lot to
think of, you know, when you're a driver. So, if you could just kind of consider
that.
MS. CLOTHIER: Absolutely. Thank you, and that will—education for
pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorists will be paramount in our action plan.
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MR. CHUNG: Yeah, I mean I just think it's a matter of either habits or poor
lifestyle habits or whatever. Because I see a lot of people waiting at the
intersection, you know, for the signal to turn—you know, that white signal for
them to walls. And then, other people just totally disregard it, yeah. So I think
it's either enforcement, education, or whatever. And that's all I have to say, but
thank you. You guys have a great mission.
MS. CLOTHIER: Thank you. Thank you so much, and I agree. You know, one
of the things that people don't know is it's against the law to enter a crosswalk
when the timer has started. That's something that we need people to know, so
thank you very much.
CHR. LEE LOY: Oh, thank you, Mr. Chung. Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Yes, I had a question about funding. Is
there a grant and funds coming in for this program to the County? And kind of
where we're at financially with this.
MS. CLOTHIER: Right, so when we first proposed Vision Zero through the
Mayor's Active Living Advisory Council, we approached Kaiser Permanente
Community Benefits and they granted $20,000 seed money. Obviously, that's the
very initial fund, but this will help us pull together the task force; start to develop
our plan. And then, as the task force comes out with plans then we will apply for
other grants. And there's many transportation safety grants out in the United
States; and just put several grant requests in the pipeline with the hopes that as we
know what the funds will be used for, we could really zero in on specific asks.
And then, hopefully be successful with our grant proposals.
CHR. LEE LOY: Anything else, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder? Thank you. Well, if
I don't have any other questions. One, thank you Tina for being here. I did want
to go back to one slide, and it was the Bicyclist Hospital -Treated Nonfatal
Injuries. And we see a rise in that particular slide. And I was just wondering, is
that related to the bike -share programs, because now, we have people who may
not truly understand, you know the roadway systems here. And how do we better
educate if we're going to be moving into this kind of bike -share program? Share
with me your thoughts on that.
MS. CLOTHIER: That's a very fair question and the reality is at this moment,
there have been no bike -share serious injuries or fatalities. The reality of the type
of bikes that are in bike -shares, that you're sitting upright and you have greater
visibility—you're not down on your bars; you're sitting upright. You have
greater visibility and you're more visible to motorists. You know, you're
probably going slower too than the speed of traffic, and ideally in a bike lane or
on a shoulder. This is anecdotal, but it seems to me when I ride the bike -share
bikes versus when I've ridden my road bike, that motorists are friendlier to me on
my bike -share bike. And I've heard that from Biki users in Honolulu. So, that
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said, that we cannot rest on our laurels, we have to constantly be educating. And,
it's not only bike -share. It's also—I've seen a rise in bicycle commuters over the
years, whether it's people who cannot afford motor vehicle transportation or just
chose to ride their bikes or perhaps they've lost their license.
And so, this is a PATH (Peoples Advocacy for Trails Hawaii) project now, but
have—we do quite a bit of outreach on the Kona side and we want to also do so
on the Hilo side and down south and up north to bicycle commuters when we can
find them. You know, in such a way that we can impart that education. For
example, we worked with HOPE services just last week to hand out free bicycle
helmets to bicycle commuters and also do a bike safety check and do bike safety
instruction. And we plan to continue that once a month. And again, hopefully
have the same program on the east side. Just an example of how we're reaching
out to bicyclists.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you. Thank you so much for your presentation. I do
want to call forward Planning Director Michael Yee, who we've had—yeah, Tina
if you could stay there too. You know, we as planners constantly have all kinds
of conversations. And you know, Director Yee has been very instrumental at
standing this one up along with what we hope to be a lot of uplift through our
Planning documents with our Complete Streets' program with the Vision Zero.
And then, crossing our fingers with some funding. So with that, Director Yee,
please go ahead and take a few minutes to share your thoughts on this and some
of the comments you've heard.
(Note: At this time, Planning Director Michael Yee came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MR. YEE: Okay, thank you. Michael Yee, Planning Director. First, I need to
note, and you know this already, but I'm going to state the obvious for the record,
that with projects like this you always need champions. And sitting to my right
here, Tina is the champion on this project, and if it wasn't for her we wouldn't be
sitting at this table, so, shout out to her. But, this project's also been in the
making for many years, even before me joining the Planning Department here.
Years ago, the state along with Blue Zones and others were sponsoring both
Council folks, and certain County folks to learn about mobility issues. So, for
several years, people were being flown to other places to learn about multi -modal;
to learn about safety; to learn about Vision Zero. As I've said in the past, I've
never had an original idea in my life that was good. I've stolen every good idea,
and Vision Zero was definitely part of that when I traveled on my mobility trip to
Seattle and to Portland and heard about Vision Zero, and came home and got
excited to implementso, it doesn't come out of the blue.
I would also add that at this time, the State Legislature has three bills in front of
them right now. The pair of companion bills that would make Vision Zero to
adopt both at the State level and the County level, and one bill that would only
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force the State to adopt. I would generally—and more supportive of the bill that
only has the State to adopt it, and that's just because we learn here about home
rule and never did like the State telling us what we have to do and the goals that
we have to set. So, but I would be happy to have either of them pass if necessary
to provide support. Again, the first companion bills have potential appropriations;
but again, I'm always skeptical about how much appropriations would flow down
to the County level again. So, not willing to have them dangle that carrot out to
me and jump at it. So, you know, I think at a certain level, we're going look at
the State having to mandate Vision Zero, you know, so it's coming.
Again, places like Maui and Hawaii Island are ahead of the curve in trying to do
it and I appreciate that. You know, with anything new, there's always skepticism
over anything new. You know, just doing some quick fact checking. I just kind
of double-checked some of my facts that still believe there's been a major
reduction in New York City. There's been major reduction in Sweden. Your
resolution does not speak to Norway; and yes, Norway has not seen in the certain
period of time, did not see a great reduction. But that's one of many, you know,
cities around the world that has adopted it. There have been many other examples
where it has been successful. One of my notes was the grant funds, which Tina
just addressed.
And lastly, something I've been learning here in my first two years, the saying
keeps repeating in my head that I think I can apply to many different things,
which kind of goes to Chair Chung's comment. Because you can, doesn't mean
you should. Something I keep learning over and over on this island. Again, that
seems to with older generations, they seem to have really understood that, and it's
something I'm trying. I was speaking to a Charter School in Keaukaha this
morning, trying to impart them with that idea, just because you can, doesn't mean
you should. And again, so I think everybody has to practice those safety
measures for themselves and people around them. Thank you.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you, Director. I just really do enjoy our time together. I
think we have a great think-tank of people and these projects are things that we
can champion. With that, and please stay because the next resolution is up. We
have on the floor a motion to close file on Communication 71. All those in favor?
Vote on Comm. 71: The motion to close file on Comm. 71 was carried by the
Filed following voice vote:
Ayes:
Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Poindexter,
Villegas, and Chair Lee Loy – 8.
Noes:
None.
Absent:
Committee Member Richards –1.
Excused:
None.
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CHR. LEE LOY: And moving to the final item on the agenda, Resolution 38-19.
Mr. Clerk.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(Note: Resolution 37-19 was taken up previously, out of order.)
Res. 38-19: ADOPTS THE GOALS, STRATEGIES, AND POLICIES OF VISION ZERO TO
PREVENT TRAFFIC -RELATED FATALITIES AND INJURIES
Vision Zero is a comprehensive strategy to eliminate traffic deaths and severe
injuries while promoting safe, healthy, and equitable mobility.
Reference: Comm. 72
Intr. by: Ms. Lee Loy
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 37-19. Seconded by Ms. Kierkiewicz.
CHR. LEE LOY: So with that, Mr. Yee if you would like to take us home,
because we've heard a presentation, and you know, we did have the proclamation
from the Mayor. So, if you could just encapsulate all of this? This really was
something we mapped out to create that first synergies behind this project.
MR. YEE: So again, a resolution certainly isn't necessary all the time in these
situations where Vision Zero has been implemented. It depends on the
jurisdiction that it is occurring, and is it a City Council heavy jurisdiction and a
City Manager? In this case, we wanted buy in from everyone and so that includes
the Mayor was the first step and then coming to Council. And clearly in the
future as projects impact other areas; Public Safety, Public Works. You know,
making sure you folks were very aware of this and were behind it was important
certainly to the Administration. So, we are certainly supportive of the resolution
and hope for your support. Thank you.
CHR. LEE LOY: Thank you. Any comments, questions from my colleagues?
Ms. Eoff.
MS. EOFF: Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you Ms. Lee Loy and
everybody here for bringing us to this point. And, as you stated, a collaborative
effort supporting a great initiative. It's important to us as a County. So, anything
we can do, feel free to ask. And thanks again, Tina for your perseverance to make
our community safe.
MR. YEE: I wanted to add that, you know, I've already been asked about having
meetings on both sides. And certainly with the resources of the County, we can,
you know use teleconferencing and stuff like that to be able to accomplish it, and
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Tina certainly lives in West Hawai`i, so I don't see all our meetings being over
here in Hilo by any means. So, I think we will get cross collaboration.
MS. EOFF: That'll be great. Thank you, I yield.
CHR. LEE LOY: Any others. Well, with that again, thank you Tina; Director
Yee. You touched about it earlier, which was the various bills of the Legislature,
and I think, adoption or approval of this, and a favorable recommendation to the
Council will actually be another tool for you to use as you guys go ahead and
provide testimony to those various bills at the Legislature that, you know, the
Hawai`i County is on board and looking forward to implementing some of the
changes that Vision Zero has. So with that, all those in favor of a favorable
recommendation to the Council of Resolution 38-19, please say"aye."
Vote on Res. 38-19: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 38-19 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Poindexter,
Villegas, and Chair Lee Loy— 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Richards— 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. LEE LOY: I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 3:00 p.m., Ms. David moved to adjourn the
MENT: meeting. Seconded by Ms. Eoff and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Chung, David, Eoff,
Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Kierkiewicz, Poindexter,
Villegas, and Chair Lee Loy— 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Richards— 1.
Excused: None.
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