HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN FC 2019/06/18 2018-2020Committee on Finance
13th Session
West Hawaii Civic Center
74-5044 Ane Keohokaloele Highway, Building A
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii
June 18, 2019
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Committee on Finance was called to order at
ORDER: 4:58 p.m., in the Council Chambers, Kona, by Ms. Maile Medeiros David, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Ms.
Maile Medeiros David, Chair
Mr.
Herbert M. "Tim" Richards, III, Vice Chair
Ms.
Karen Eoff, Member
Mr.
Matt Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, Member
Ms.
Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, Member
Ms.
Susan L. K. Lee Loy, Member
Ms.
Valerie T. Poindexter, Member
Ms.
Rebecca Villegas, Member
Absent & Excused: Mr. Aaron S. Y. Chung Member
STATEMENTS
FROM THE
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS
The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
The Chair called Eric Cockcroft, representing Kapoho Vacationland Community
Association, who registered to comment on Communication 331, and came forward
when called.
CHR. DAVID: Council Members, could we justI know we have a
presentation, and I'm really, really happy. Do you folks want to take the
presentation first or just take the whole short agenda items and then leave Diane
and Roy to have the rest of the afternoon? I knowI think we have a couple of
people from the departments. I think we have Mike in Hilo. These other items
were not—change orders. I'll just go through?
MS. LEE LOY: Yeah, Chair, if
CHR. DAVID: And then leave the
MS. LEE LOY: The presentation for last.
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CHR. DAVID: Last. Thank you. I think that's a goodsorry, just a few more
minutes. Thank you.
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
CHR. DAVID: Alright, Mr. Clerk, I'm sorry. Communication 10. 13, please.
Comm. 10.13: REPORT OF CHANGE ORDERS AUTHORIZED: APRIL 16 — 30, 2019
From Finance Director Deanna Sako, dated May 21, 2019, transmitting the
above report pursuant to Hawaii County Code Section 2-12.3.
Vote on Comm. 10.13: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to close file on
Filed Comm. 10.13. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy and
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards, Villegas,
and Chair David — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Chung — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, Communication 11.11.
Comm. 11.11: REPORT OF FUND TRANSFERS AUTHORIZED: MAY 1 — 15, 2019
From Controller Kay Oshiro, dated May 20, 2019.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Richards moved to close file on Comm. 11.11.
Seconded by Ms. Eof£
CHR. DAVID: Any discussion?
MR. RICHARDS: Yes.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Richards. I believe we have Director Sako in Hilo.
MR. RICHARDS: Yes, Director Sako, can you come to the table, please?
(Note: At this time, Finance Director Deanna Sako came forward to
address the members of the Committee.)
MS. SAKO: Good afternoon.
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MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thanks, Director Sako, for being up here. I
had two questions concerning—had to do with Public Works and a
transfer of fund from one district to another, concerning overtime. It looks
like we transferred from North-South Kona to Ka`u, and then from
North Hilo-Hamakua to North-South Kohala. My question for you isI
understand we all, like you saidI think it was one of our testifier said it was a
year to remember, maybe one to forget. I understand why we had the extra
overtime, but how does that set for the rest of it? Are those other districts okay
for their funding or are we going to end up at the year, or are we going to have
some issues?
MS. SAKO: No, I believe they're going to end up okay, which is why they chose
those accounts to transfer out of. They were just trying to cover all the
expenditures that we had so that then when we get the FEMA (Federal
Emergency Management Agency) revenue, it will go back into the fund.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, this is $250,000 for Kona-Ka`u, and I think $45,000 or
$50,000 for the other. So our budget is going to end okay for the year then,
you're comfortable with that?
MS. SAKO: Yes. This is all in the Highway Fund, yeah.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. Thank you, Chair. I yield.
MS. LEE LOY: Chair?
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Richards. Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Good morning, Deanna. Ha, ha, ha.
MS. SAKO: Hi, I guess (laughter).
MS. LEE LOY: I'm just looking at the General Fund. You have from Technical
Services salary and wages to, I guess, it's Puna Police salary and wages? I was
just wondering if that was related to our events in Puna, and if so
MS. SAKO: No, I thinkoh, sorry. It may have started out that way, but Police
is a little bit different in and of itself. So when we do the budget, we budget each
of the vacant positions, but lots of times we have to train the recruits first, so they
constantly are kind of moving S&W (Salary and Wages) around. But in this case,
I think they did this initial transfer to cover Puna Police for the lava, but then
afterwards we shifted it all to one of the disaster accounts so that they ended up
the year okay.
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Vote on Comm. 11.11
Filed
June 18, 2019
MS. LEE LOY: Great, because that'sI understand we got that $22 million from
the Governor, and it was to be utilized for salary and wages as it relates to
overtime costs for our first responders. So we're utilizing the money from the
relief from the Governor's office?
MS. SAKO: Yes, we are.
MS. LEE LOY: Awesome. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Anyone else, Council Members? No?
Seeing none, all those in favor of filing Communication 11.11 please say "aye."
The motion to close file on Comm. 11.11 was carried by
the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards, Villegas,
and Chair David — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Chung — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, can you move to Communication 321?
Comm. 321: FUEL TAX REVENUE REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019-2020
From Finance Director Deanna Sako, dated May 30, 2019, transmitting the
above report in compliance with Resolution 212-17. Increased fuel tax rates
effective July 1, 2019, from 19 cents per gallon to 23 cents per gallon, are
projected to generate an additional $6,057,755, which will be primarily utilized
for the Public Safety Disaster/Emergency fund, road paving, flood control, tree
trimming and other road maintenance, traffic signal upgrades, striping for
roadway projects, school safety projects, and mass transit.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Richards moved to close file on Comm. 321.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. DAVID: I have a note that Director Yamamoto is in our Hilo Chambers in
case anyone has questions. Go ahead, Ms. Kierkiewicz.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. Director Yamamoto, I have a couple of
questions, please.
(Note: At this time, Public Works Director David Yamamoto came
forward to address members of the Committee.)
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you for joining us today.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Good afternoon.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Great to see you. Okay, Resolution 212-17 sort of
articulates the need for a lot of these different factors to be included in a plan from
your office as to how these fuel tax monies will be spent. So I see a breakdown,
there's a matrix of the different funds. Emergency Fund, Road Paving, Signal
Upgrades, et cetera, but I don't see the timeline for these projects, and I feel like
that that's something missing. I see a lot of projects that have been identified for
road resurfacing throughout the various districts of our island, so I'm just
wondering how are you making the determination as to these being the priority
roads and how is that money being allocated? What's the formula you're using to
justify what roads get worked on?
And then, there's a number of school safety projects. They're not listed in
priority. But again, there's no timeline for work. So there's all this money in
projects but I'm just not sure when it's going to happen.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yeah, and as far as for like traffic signaling and
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Director, I'm having a hard time hearing you. Can you
scoot the mic closer to your mouth? Thank you.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yeah, we have a list of road paving projects that actually
exceed the funds available, so that's how we're trying to budget, and then move
these monies in the appropriate accounts to be able to accomplish what our funds
can accomplish as well as what our crews can accomplish.
For like signal upgrades, they have a plan already to upgrade the signal systems.
It's just a matter of obtaining the funds and putting that planning in motion. Same
with road striping. They have an inventory of roads that that they would like to
restripe, that far exceeds the amount that our current crews can actually
accomplish as well as what funds we have currently available.
So as we break these things up, we're trying to break it up into bites that each of
our divisions can accomplish, knowing that the number of projects that we have
far exceeds the monies available. We are looking to distribute each of these
amounts to the various districts in that formula that we had previously, where it
goes by percentage of roads in the district.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay. So we have a lot of projects on our wish list, not
enough money. Is it going to be lottery system, where we sort of identifyI
mean, how are we going to identify which takes more priority? Because I think
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constituents of these various districts will say that their roads are of highest
priority.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Correct. We're on the tail end of completing the Mandli
Road Profiling Project that we started earlier this year, where we're inventorying
our roads and the conditions of our roads. That will help better our ability to
prioritize the roads based on the condition of the road. Up until now and what
we're working off right now is based on previous studies or just field evaluation
and reports by the public.
But here moving forward, when we do get our Mandli data and the ability to
prioritize our roads through that process, we'll shift to identify and work on
projects based on the guidance given to us by this new software.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's great, Director. I like hearing that our decisions are
going based on data because that's very fair, that's very equitable. It's very
transparent. It's something that we can ground our decision-making in. Did you
share with us when we can expect that report, the condition of our roads?
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yeah, I think they're almost done gathering the data. They
left for a little while because they had another project to work on, but they came
back and they're going to finish up, actually, gathering the data. But they started
doing the evaluations. In fact, this week or next week we're going to have a
meeting with them, and they were going to go over, you know, to make sure that
the data presentation that they're going to make is in the format that we can use
and need for our purpose.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: And how long has this project been underway?
MR. YAMAMOTO: From earlier this year. We signed, I think, signed the
contract about March or April, and so they started at the same time that the State
DOT (Department of Transportation) had brought them in. That's why we tried
rushing that contract, being that—we took advantage of they're being on island
for the State DOT gathering of data and piggybacked on the State's—their
mobilizing to our island for the State's purpose.
They're starting to get the results and the evaluations of the roads completed, so
we're going to start seeing some of what they have to present. Hopefully, by this
summer or end of this summer we should be on our way to start being able to use
this program.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, thank you, Director. One more thing. So I'm going
to go back to the fuel tax increase revenue utilization matrix that I have here. I'm
looking at the projects. So we have a list of road resurfacing, but all the other
uses: emergency fund, signal upgrades, striping, equipment, and other which I
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think includes school and mass transit, but where's all that other information? Is
there going to be a follow-up report?
MR. YAMAMOTO: I can gather that information and forward it to the Council.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, that way we can share it with the community.
Because Resolution 212-17 calls for just a comprehensive plan, right, around how
all of this money will be spent, so I just want to make sure that we're making
good on—what prior Council felt in their wisdom was the best thing to do, to just
keep the transparency and let the public know how we're using their dollars.
Thank you, Director. Chair, I yield.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Kierkiewicz. Council Members, any other
questions? Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. Mr. Yamamoto, I'm just thinking out loud. Just
because we have this additional infusion from the fuel tax, I'm wondering if
there's any thought being given to leverage this along with the agreement that we
have with State Department of Transportation. I believe a few months back we
put together a resolution in where we could do some shared costs. I appreciate
how you folks have identified the roads, and as Ms. Kierkiewicz said, there's a lot
of parity and fairness. But I'm also wondering if any thought has been given to
leveraging this along with some of the other agreements that we have with State
Department of Transportation.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yeah, that's a good question. We have been doing that in
the past. Basically, the projects that are put in CIP (Capital Improvement
Projects), from the fuel tax, is basically paying for—at times are used for the
County's 20 percent share in obtaining the Federal Highway Aid, of 80 percent
toward resurfacing and/or reconstructing our roadways. So, we intend to continue
moving forward with utilizing these funds or these type of funds to leverage the
funds that come available from the Federal Highway Aid Program.
We recently had put in a CATEX (Categorical Exclusion) for a five-year plan
with what we call the STIP (State Transportation Improvement Program) projects,
and so we had earmarked to match these projects, possibly with these the fuel tax.
MS. LEE LOY: That's wonderful, Mr. Yamamoto. Thank you. I want to make
sure that we—you know, we have this money, and we know what it should be
used for. But we also have other options and other opportunities, and I just want
to make sure that we're really thinking outside the box and trying to do maybe
creative financing for some of these roads and some of the other projects. With
that, Chair, I yield. Thank you. Mr. Yamamoto, thank you.
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CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Mr. Yamamoto, I have just one
question. On your road resurfacing projects that you list on page two of your
report, is the Mandli mapping, is that to prioritize the condition of all other roads
aside from those that are listed here on this island? What's the priority of this list
that you have? Is it in its priority, where South Hilo is first, second down the line
or is the Mandli survey have something to do with prioritizing which road
projects get done first? Because I know some of them are pending right now, on
this list.
MR. YAMAMOTO: Correct. Basically, this particular list was prepared, what
we call the old style, and didn't include the Mandli profiling.
CHR. DAVID: Okay.
MR. YAMAMOTO: It's based on reconnaissance and community concerns.
CHR. DAVID: Okay, so how do you prioritize these? Which ones are going to
get done first? I mean, is it in this order or for these that are not doing?
MR. YAMAMOTO: No, not this order. They tend toHighways, you know,
they did provide a schedule to us. It might change now, but they did provide a
schedule where they intend to, you know, basically move the paver to so that they
can do the resurfacing project. It all comes to scheduling. Because the baseyard
has their own regular maintenance to accomplish, so they try to schedule the
regular maintenance and a period where they can actually do the road resurfacing,
where they need the additional manpower to be able to accomplish the resurfacing
part of the work that they do.
CHR. DAVID: Okay.
MR. YAMAMOTO: So they basically
CHR. DAVID: Perfect. No, no. So someone else is making that determination
on where they move, from which road to the next, right? If you can
MR. YAMAMOTO: Based on the priority that baseyard has and where they can
fit it best into their schedule, you know, whether it would be weather or school is
out, for a particular project, and stuff like that.
CHR. DAVID: Okay. So we can just call that division, or that department, or
call you to find out specific timelines for these projects that you have listed?
MR. YAMAMOTO: Yeah, you can call our office.
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CHR. DAVID: Okay. Cool. Thank you. Alright, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder, go
ahead.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, David. I noticed I don't have
any streets on this list at all. I just wanted to say that. Thank you.
MR. YAMAMOTO: It might be on the older list that they didn't complete yet. I
know they had some. I've got to check. In upper Puna, that they didn't finish.
I'll check.
MR. KANEALI`I-KLEINFELDER: Thank you, David.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder. Anyone else? Council
Members, no? Oh, okay. Ms. Villegas, go ahead.
MS. VILLEGAS: I just want to shout -out to Neil Azevedo and his team; and the
Shave and Pave Project that's been happening in Holualoa, by the elementary
school, providing safer access to schools for those parents and the children as well
as for the town and community as a whole. Just really commend him on his
levels of communication. He's been sending photos. It's been excellent. He's
been wonderful to work with. The community is really grateful.
And also, communicating where he'd be going next. So as constituents have
reached out to me with questions, I've been able to communicate, well, not exact
timelines, the background thought on timing. And so, just extremely grateful for
that. Thank you. I yield.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Villegas. Anyone else? And I think we all
appreciate and thank Mr. Azevedo. Given that, all those in favor of filing
Communication 321 please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 321: The motion to close file on Comm. 321 was carried by
Filed the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy,
Poindexter, Richards, Villegas, and
Chair David — 7.
Noes: Committee Member Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder — 1.
Absent: Committee Member Chung — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Quickly, Order of Resolutions, Resolution 194-19.
Change Order of As directed by the Chair and with no objection from the Council Members,
Business: the following items were taken out of order:
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Res. 194-19: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR
AND OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE OF
TWO WALKING FLOOR REFUSE TRAILERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an approximate
monthly cost of $5,200.
Motion to Approve:
Vote on Res. 194-19
(Approved)
Reference: Comm. 322
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Ms. Poindexter moved to recommend adoption of
Res. 194-19. Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. DAVID: I believe we have Mr. Mike Kaha from Solid Waste Division,
Deputy Chief in Hilo, if we have any questions. But I believe the resolution
is pretty self-explanatory. So, Council Members, do we have any questions
for Mr. Kaha? Seeing none, alright, all those in favor of approving
Resolution 194-19 please say "aye."
The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 194-19 was
carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards, Villegas,
and Chair David — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Chung — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Mr. Clerk, Resolution 195-19.
Res. 195-19: AUTHORIZES THE PAYMENT OF FUNDS OF A LATER FISCAL YEAR
AND OF MORE THAN ONE FISCAL YEAR FOR A MULTI-YEAR LEASE
OF TWO SEMI -TRACTORS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT
Authorizes the Mayor to enter into a five-year lease agreement with an
approximate monthly cost of $8,000.
Reference: Comm. 323
Intr. by: Ms. David (B/R)
Motion to Approve: Mr. Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder moved to recommend adoption
of Res. 195-19. Seconded by Ms. Villegas.
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CHR. DAVID: Any discussion? Seeing, none—Mr. Richards, would you like
Mr. Kaha to come up?
MR. RICHARDS: Please.
CHR. DAVID: Oh, yes. Mr. Kaha, could you please come up to the table.
Thank you.
(Note: At this time, Deputy Solid Waste Division Chief Mike Kaha came
forward to address the members of the Committee.)
MR. KAHA: Good afternoon, Council Chair, Council Members.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, thanks for being here. I think it's probably a question
of the obvious. But these are the tractors that's going to be pulling the two
trailers, is that correct?
MR. KAHA: Yes.
MR. RICHARDS: In reviewing this, it looks like it's for the eastside landfill,
which we're going to be shutting shortly, and then what's the plans for these
trucks?
MR. KAHA: So actually, these trucks would be primarily for these trailers that's
in the south district. We're doing some repairs to the Wai`ohinu baseyard, and
that repair is going to be so that we can accommodate the transfer of the south
community, their trash, to the West Hawaii landfill. We're really cognizant of
the fact that we're going to be adding more trucks since now that's going to be the
only landfill.
We're looking at, possibly in the future, instead of traveling the Volcano and
Glenwood transfer station through Hilo, and then repurposing that again to go
through the Hamakua coast, it was better for us eventually have Volcano and
Glenwood come through the less inhabited area, through the south area, and then
use these larger 120 cubic yard trailers. And then, travelling only two trailers,
larger capacity than what we have currently, which is 70 cubic yard trailers.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay, so you're setting up for the shut -down and then
transfer?
MR. KAHA: Yes.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. Thank you, Chair. I yield.
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CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Richards; and thank you, Mr. Kaha, for your
patience of waiting there all afternoon. Alright, all those in favor of approving
Resolution 195-19 and forwarding it to the Council with a positive
recommendation please say "aye."
Vote on Comm. 195-19: The motion to recommend adoption of Res. 195-19 was
(Approved) carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Poindexter, Richards, Villegas,
and Chair David — 8.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Member Chung — 1.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: And just for the record, Resolution 194-19 we previously
approved moved forward to Council with a positive recommendation, also.
Mr. Clerk, Communication 331.
Return to Order The Chair directed the Committee to the order of business.
of Business:
Comm. 331: REQUESTS A PRESENTATION BY THE HAWAII COUNTY RECOVERY
TEAM REGARDING THE LAVA RECOVERY INTERIM STRATEGY AND
THE SPENDING PLAN UPDATE
From Council Member Ashley L. Kierkiewicz, dated June 10, 2019.
Motion to Close File: Mr. Kierkiewicz moved to close file on Comm. 331.
Seconded by Ms. Lee Loy.
CHR. DAVID: Ms. Kierkiewicz, go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you, Chair. You know, it's been a few months
since the Recovery Team's principles, Diane Ley, Director of Research and
Development, and Roy Takemoto from the Mayor's office, have come before the
Council to provide some updates on where we are with recovery strategy and
planning. I think this body had a lot of questions. We were critical of some of the
numbers and wanted more justification. So looking for an update, and I'm hoping
at some point you are able to address some of the questions that Mr. Cockcroft
has brought forward as a representative of Vacationland Community Association.
So, I'll yield the floor to you. Thank you for being here and for being so patient.
(Note: At this time, Research and Development Director Diane Ley and
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Roy Takemoto came forward to address
the members of the Committee.)
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MS. LEY: Thank you all. I appreciate the opportunity, Chair and Council
Members. My name is Diane Ley. I am the Director for the Department of
Research and Development. I'm also the Kilauea Recovery Manager.
MR. TAKEMOTO: Roy Takemoto, Mayor's office.
MS. LEY: We really appreciate this opportunity to provide the County's monthly
update on recovery efforts as indicated previously. We want to share today an
interim strategy update with our new accomplishments related to recovery and an
expenditure update.
(Note: At this time, Ms. Ley provided a PowerPoint presentation
regarding the Kilauea Eruption Recovery. For viewing of the subject
presentation, please see the DVD copy of the meeting proceedings on file
in the Clerk's Office. A hardcopy of the presentation is made a part of the
record, see Comm. 331.1).
MS. LEY: We're available for question and answer.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Ley and Mr. Takemoto. Council Members?
Ms. Kierkiewicz, go ahead.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thanks you guys for sticking around and for being here. I
first just want to say thank you. Thank you for collaborating, for being so open
with all this information. I know that Council Member Lee Loy and I have really
enjoyed working with you as we craft this interim recovery strategy. So I'm
really excited about what we'll be able to share with the community and the rest
of this Council because I've kept in close touch with constituents and I want to
make sure that this recovery strategy is reflective of community wants and needs.
Let's just start with some good news, right? Work is happening on 132. That's
very exciting. We have been able to leverage the monies with Bill 12 to help
support some Kipuka folks; so, Mr. Cockcroft, that mechanism is available to
you. I'm working with Nicolette Jervis and other folks to leverage those monies.
A lot of work is happening, so thank you for doing that on top of your every day
job.
I want to thank you R&D (Research and Development) for your support of
"Activate Puna." You know, we were able to accomplish a couple of murals for
community, and my favorite is the one we did in collaboration with the schools. I
don't know if I shared this with my colleagues, but it was a week long process in
which a Puna -based artist, Kai Kaulukukui met with the students, and there were
a lot of questions, and back and forth, and exposure to this potential of being a
globally recognized artist. And I love that they were able to drive the elements of
what was part of that mural.
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One student in particular—all of the questions were written down and submitted
to the artist—that really stuck with me and touched my heart was, why are you
painting this beautiful mural at our school? That child never felt that anyone of
this level of influence was caring or investing in them; and so I want this recovery
process to really feel like we wrapping this lei of aloha around our entire
community, and that's going to be putting in the hard work to continuously
engage our constituents to make sure that they're part of this process.
I think we have a lot to learn from our past, in particular. I mean, we survived a
couple of tsunamis, so I hope we take a look at sort the decision-making around
that time and ensure that is something that we as a County and community
consider when we think about the long-term plans for Puna.
Let's see here, you mentioned the case management contracts. I was wondering
what the timeframe for implementation was. I believe Sharon was here in March,
same day that you gave your initial presentation. So just the status of
procurement, because our understanding was that it was going to kick off this
summer
MS. LEY: So, I checked in today on the status of that. The County did issue a
Request for Proposals. The proposals came in, and the Review Committee did
review them. None of the applicants were selected, so we are going to back out
for another round. It would not be appropriate for me to share much more than
what I just shared, which is basically pretty much all I know. You know, it's
disappointing, but we have to respect that process. It's called for in State law and
rules. So, we'll go do this again. We're active on that. The case management
information is going to be key to making decisions, so we know we need it sooner
than later.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Thank you for sharing, and I don't want to go down the
rabbit hole any further. But I was wondering if there is an update you can provide
us in terms of the merging of the various databases, because that is something that
is separate from the actual case management contract.
MR. TAKEMOTO: That is getting very close.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: What do you mean by "close?" It's so subjective. Like,
tomorrow kind close?
MR. TAKEMOTO: No. There's still some glaring discrepancies, like
duplicates or addresses that don't match up. It's a very small percentage of
the entire database, but it's still causing to question the reliability of
some of the information. So, how close are we? I think we have a—we're
able toprocurement is always something that trips you up, but were able to
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convince the consultant, Tetra Tech, on the value of the consultant we're using,
Royce Jones, who is the guru of GIS (Geographical Information System) in the
State, and who created our parcel data and Real Property Tax system and all
that—how he joins to our GIS. Tetra Tech picked up Royce Jones; so that really
expedites now how we're able to access his expertise to fix this data. That just
happened. So, I think we are maybe a week or two away.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: That's very close. That's great. And as soon as we are
able to procure a case manager of this database, oh, correct me I'm wrong,
potentially once we have recovery team manager in place, they can be the conduit
that accepts information from constituents that aren't necessarily in any of the
databases. I just want to make sure that there are opportunities for residents to
say, "I need help now." Because their situation might have been where they've
self -resolved; or six, nine months ago they didn't need help and now they do. So
I just want to make sure there's ample opportunity for us to have these platforms,
where people can say, "I need assistance," and that we then have a matrix that
shows the various opportunities available to them, because everyone's situation is
so unique.
MS. LEY: If I may just elaborate a little bit on that? Again, recovery is complex.
So on one hand we're moving forward with case management and database
crosswalks, but on the other hand we have a very strong network of social service
agencies who have not stood down since the response time. They're continuing to
engage with families and serve those families to the best degree possible.
We're also continuing efforts to stand up to various components, our options for
the housing sector, and those include our nonprofits that are capable of building
homes and things like that. So we're continuing to engage with them while
government churns its way through these bigger chunks.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So since you brought up housing; Roy, are you able to
provide some additional details around the pilot that you're looking to do?
Because I fully believe in having a suite of options. Council Member Lee Loy
and I, we've gone to the meetings about the Community Land Trust and it's
brilliant. There are other ways that we can plug in various social situations that
are happening, to really accelerate the pace in which we realize the Land Trust. I
like the idea of revolving loans, and that we're considering—you know, are we
going to help folks move back or relocate? So there are so many options on the
table, and I'm wondering if you can just provide a little bit of detail around that or
if we should have a presentation specifically on that? Because it's a lot of money,
$10 million from the Governor is a lot of money to be expending on housing. I
don't know if you want to share some details today, and we can have a follow-up
conversation around that.
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MR. TAKEMOTO: I can just give you a flavor on some of the ideas that we're
looking at.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay.
MR. TAKEMOTO: So the revolving fund sounds like just one idea, but it's a
source that can be used for multiple ideas that we hope to experiment with. So for
rental, it can be used for rental subsidy; possibly a deposit assistance security,
deposit assistance for a landlord who wants to construct an ohana dwelling and
offer it to a lava survivor and needs a bridge loan or some type of loan for that.
So those are the kind of ideas that the revolving loan is being looked into.
Also, for the Community Land Trust, to get it going right away, this revolving
loan could be used as a bridge loan. So instead of relying on a mortgage by
the prospective buyer, the Community Land Trust entity can go ahead, have the
prospective buyer select the home they want; but go ahead and finance it with this
bridge loan, get the construction started, and then have the buyer take it out with
financing that they can get later on.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, that's helpful. I think we'll have a more robust
conversation in the future on this because it's a very important component when it
comes to recovery. Just a few more questions, thank you.
Farmers. I noticed there was $10,000 in technical assistance. If you could
provide a little bit more detail around that?
MS. LEY: Okay. That's basically been one-on-one assistance provided through
an economic development specialist with the Kohala Center. So she has been,
since the eruption started, reaching out to producers, particularly those that are not
involved in any association that tends to bring resources to the table. So assisting
them with reviewing their business plan, their strategies, where funds are
available, applications.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Is this Silvan? Silvan Shawe?
MS. LEY: No.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I like Silvan, by the way. We're working together on
some ag stuff You know, I remember in Bill 12 that we had allocated $45,000 to
support farmers. I do want to share with you that I've reached out to the
Community Foundation, Diane Chadwick, and we're going to have a
conversation. Because they have the Volcano Recovery Fund, so I'm wondering
will they match us? And can we find other foundations and partners that have a
mission to support our farmers to also match us? That way we can make those
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monies go a bit further, and potentially working with the Kohala Center to move
that money out into the community.
MS. LEY: Okay, so just briefly on that $45,000 for ag that was identified through
Ordinance 19-22. So some of the conversation has been about—has focused on
putting some more seed money back into the Kiva Loan Program, which is
managed by the Kohala Center. That's a zero -interest loan program which offers
loans up to $10,000. The loan needs to be matched with self-funded, oh I should
say crowdsource funds, but that's a very good opportunity. However, the small
dollar amount, you know, it doesn't get leveraged too far that way. We've been
looking at that but haven't taken any action on it.
The other one is to explore a farmer's market for the Pahoa area, or pop-up
markets an opportunity. That was a concept that's been explored. And then the
other one is the follow-on to the business refresh courses, and again, that interest
in branding. If qualified organization were to host a series of branding
workshops, and then those that are actually—can basically make a pitch or case
for why they could use additional branding assistance. We could have a team of
folks that go out and work one-on-one with a producer. Get a box label. Get a
card that goes into that box that tells about the product, the farm, how to handle it,
how to store it. Business cards. Even standing up a simple website for future
marketing opportunities. So, those are some of
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I like all of that, Director, and I just hope that we consider
putting more money aside for economic recovery. And maybe this is where the
CDBG-DR (Community Block Grant – Disaster Relief) monies come in, because
I like everything that you say, but $45,000 isn't really going to get us there.
MS. LEY: Exactly, and I think that's why we haven't really taken action. So
there's the Disaster Relief funds for the CDBG-DR. That there's an opportunity
for economic initiatives in that. And then also, the Economic Development
Administration has funding opportunities. Generally, those are for larger
community-based projects. But these are all opportunities that we can lift up.
That's part of what we'll accomplish through this Economic Development
Recovery planning process, as well.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, just a few more questions. In terms of community
engagement, do you have a pulse on where Bob is at with meeting with various
homeowner associations and other big huis that exist throughout Puna?
MS. LEY: So, reached out to over 1,000 individuals thus far, and so we just kind
of moving that information forward. Again, we'll be incorporating that into some
of the plans as well as scenario for your decision-making, moving forward.
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MS. KIERKIEWICZ: I really liked the breakdown that you've provided, of the
expenditures and where the money is coming from. I wonder if we can pair this
with a timeline and the different deadlines for the pots of money. And then also,
add to that, the timeline for the next stuff that you've articulated: the recovery
initiatives, case management, pursue funding sources, refine expenditure plan,
hire contractor, recovery positions. I think it's just really important that we spend
money and also know, sort of in a calendar way when we need to hit those goals
and spend that money by.
And I think the software that you've showed Council Member Lee Loy and I
and I found some money for you hopefully my colleagues see the importance of
investing in systems, like this, where we'll be able to track projects; track money;
collaborate inter -governmentally; County, State, Federal partners. But also,
export this information out into reports: in visuals, where we can just get a quick
glance as to how the monies are being spent. And that can easily be shared with
community via uploads to the website, right?
MS. LEY: Yes, we're definitely working towards that. We appreciate the
support and interest that the Council Members have taken and their efforts to
advocate on behalf of doing that.
Again, some of these pieces are complex. You know, how do we tell the whole
story but tell it in a simple enough manner that people can get that snapshot?
We're working actively on it. We're not alone either. We've reached back to our
consultants that do this work on a regular basis, to ask them for models from other
communities, again so we can kind stand up those visual pieces as well as provide
more detail for folks like yourselves.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: And then timelines? Sorry, I didn't hear anything about
timelines.
MS. LEY: Yes, that would include timelines, as well.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, great. And then you noted that the Pacific Disaster
Center, their report is done, and that you were going to contextualize this into the
recovery strategy. Is it possible for the Council to get some sort of update or copy
of what's been transmitted to date, or is that going to be something that we'll
review as part of the larger comprehensive strategy?
MS. LEY: I haven't seen it yet or looked at it.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Oh, okay.
MS. LEY: And again, I think part of theI just touched base with
Ron Whitmore about it. Again, he said that it was completed in terms of at the
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track level and block level. It's not going to give you just the answers you want,
that you can pull off the shelf and say this—you know, point to this or that. It's
going to be more generalities. It will give you an idea what the community is
about. So let us go back and do some review of that.
Again, if we can contextualize it, so people understand that this is not an end-all
product. It's part of the data that goes into making good decisions going forward.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yeah, and that pinning it on a timeline would be really
helpful.
MS. LEY: Okay.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: So we know that we're getting various pieces of
information, and at some point, they're all going to merge.
MS. LEY: Right.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Like the recovery framework and the economic recovery
plans.
MS. LEY: Excuse me. Those should all come together. Towards the end of the
year we should have a solid draft, and again, that can be looked at
comprehensively. If there's additional questions, we'll go back and source more.
We've got to move quickly on this, and we know that. We know we've been
behind the gun. You know, it's taking too long. But frankly, the County didn't
have resources. That's part of some of the effort we're doing to lay the
groundwork for future disasters so that we will know what we need and be able to
set aside some of those savings in our pocket so that we can stand these pieces up
more quickly.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Yeah, I mean, you're doing an amazing job. I appreciate
knowing that by end of the year we're going to have a plan. There was really no
framework for any of us to be operating on. I still say the State could be
providing a little bit more assistance in terms of leadership on how we navigate
this. But the rest of the State, all the counties are watching us; and when host
HSAC (Hawai`i State Association of Counties) next year, we're going to be able
to give a great presentation about how we stand up a recovery operation. Just
saying.
So I just want to get this correct, right? What you have been presenting to us and
what we'll put forward in the resolution, the interim recovery strategy, the
expenditures for that will be good for what? Six months, nine months, a year? I
just want to make sure that there's a good transition between the interim, and then
when we get a draft copy of the long-term comprehensive.
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MR. TAKEMOTO: The spending plan will cover all the funding sources that we
anticipate to date. So it would project how the recovery plan will take that
information and make changes as necessary. And what's in the recovery plan
would supersede the spending plan in the interim recovery strategy.
MS. KIERKIEWICZ: Okay, so that's helpful. Because when we pass a
resolution and there's an articulation on how the monies will be spent, you're
saying the recovery plan will trump that, and so decisions made through that plan
will take precedence over what we originally thought was the best idea forward.
But given that there's more information, better information, we can kind of fine
tune that spending.
Okay, I just want to make sure I'm getting this. It's been a long day. It's a lot of
information, but this super good information. And I'm getting text messages, a
lot of people are really happy about the level of detail, and your commitment, and
your dedication to all of this.
I'll just add a couple of things. I hope that with the near-term recovery, we can
include some money for the Puna Strong grants. I think we have a lot of
innovative individuals, very good ideas and communities. And I'd like to adopt
maybe the elemental accelerator model, where we work with high -plan even. We
have these monies available, and we throw out challenges to the community and
say, "These are the issues, be resilient, solve them," and then they are able to take
advantage of grant monies, and it's all part of that community engagement
capacity building.
You know, I'll just end with—and thank you, Chair, for all the latitude you've
given me. I'll just end with that. I think we all love Puna. We all love our island.
The Puna that we knew will always be in our hearts, and we can't bring it back.
But this is an amazing opportunity to just reimagine and leap forward. So, thank
you for your time. Chair, I yield.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Kierkiewicz. Ms. Lee Loy, go ahead.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you. You know, me and Ms. Kierkiewicz have been
working alongside with Roy and Diane, and really it has been a pleasure. The
rumble has been great.
I won't take up too much of your time. I was just really interested in the recovery
standalone website, that soft launch and the timeline on that, just because see it as
such a critical piece. One, so people can go get their own information, where
we're not doing this, and then to some large degree, almost self -resolve, right?
Because then they would be linked into who do I contact, what kind of application
do I fill out, do I need to fill out an application, what source of funding is
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available. And those timelines are really important. I'm going to ask the hard
question as far the soft launch, when we are going to go live?
MS. LEY: Next week. We're circulating vigorously within the administration
and asking folks to look at it on their desktop computer, on their tablets, and on
their phones. Click on the links, make sure they're working, make sure that the
forms that are there to fill out. And I will caveat that we don't have all the
answers for everybody to type in, "I need $1 million to rebuild my home." but it
will be—as we get more information or as we the County builds programs or we
partner with people who can build—deliver programs, those can be added. It will
be a living website.
MS. LEE LOY: Thank you, Diane. I just really see that as an incredible tool.
You know, regardless of where they are or what kind of time they have in their
day, right? I mean, I can someone jumping on at 11:00 at night because that's the
time that they have, so launching this website is really critical.
And for the rest of my colleagues, me and Ms. Kierkiewicz had an opportunity to
see a precursor to some of the timelines. I'm just really excited to see those
Gantt charts come forward because I really think when we talk about utilizing
public's money, our grant funds, and then keeping us on track, I think those
Gantt charts are so incredibly useful, showing the critical path as far as what
needs to happen. Holding all of us accountable but also just raising the flags that,
"Hey, something's got to happen soon, and if not, what do we do?" So I'm really
excited as far as what's going to be coming forward with the resolution.
And then even the modification to our Code, I'm really excited about how that
streamlines the vernacular for disaster for recovery across the State; here at the
County, at the State, and then at the Federal Government. And Ms. Kierkiewicz
is right, I think this should be a topic for discussion at our HSAC 2020 conference
because the rest of the counties will definitely benefit from this and actually
springboard forward, if there is a disaster of this kind of magnitude on their
islands.
So again, Roy and Diane, thank you so much. Chair, thank you. I know it's late,
but I really appreciate the time again.
CHR. DAVID: That's okay. Thank you.
MS. LEE LOY: I yield.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Ms. Lee Loy. Mr. Richards, go ahead.
MR. RICHARDS: Thank you, Chair. You guys get the bad clean-up, right? I do
appreciate—Diane, I really appreciate the fact that even at 6:30 on night and a
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long day you still have a sense of humor coming through this. So either you or
like us, and just little bit—but anyway, appreciate that.
Anyway, couple of questions. Again, comes back to the dollars and cents. We
have in government, and you will know this better than I, there's all these pots of
money that come in to us and then they go out. Some of them are specific on how
they need to be spent, some are not as restricted. What I'm asking for is, we
know have funding from the Governor, funding from the Legislature, impending
funding from FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and all that, do
you have a quick spreadsheet? Not down to the dollar but down to the point
such -and -such million so we know approximately how much we have spent going
forward, and thereby how much we still have in reserve? Do you have something
you can deliver to the Council? I realize it's a moving target. But is there
something you can deliver to us, so we know approximately where we are?
MR. TAKEMOTO: Yeah, that's something that we're reconciling with Finance's
records and incorporating it into the budget. In the resolution, the budget format
will have an actuals column and how it relates to the budget. So there will be this
month's actuals, cumulative actuals, balance on the budget.
MR. RICHARDS: And that's going to be in the forthcoming resolution?
MR. TAKEMOTO: The resolution we have this overall budget; and the
subsequent reports, the monthly reports to you folks, would have the actuals
compared to the budget.
MR. RICHARDS: Because again, I'm very mindful of the request or the
direction from the Legislature. We need to be mindful of that, and just knowing
approximately where we are in the expenditures as we come forward.
Some very good points have been brought up by my colleagues. I, too, am
excited. I'm very happy that we're laying the groundwork, that hopefully we will
never have to use again. I'm not going to be so pollyannic; I think that's not the
deal. So we can expect that coming forth reasonably quickly then? Is that what
I'm hearing?
MR. TAKEMOTO: Yeah, the resolution for the Internal Recovery Strategy will
come first. The draft bill for the ordinance will take—maybe will lag about a
couple of weeks behind that.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. Okay, so imminent then as far as coming before us.
Okay, shifting gears a little bit. The recovery of the economy, and we've talked
about on numerous times, investment in that. I know we've received
contributions from, I think, it's the Tourism Authority to advertise "Come back to
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the Big Island, we're still here." Where are we with that for funding? What
resources have you determined to put forth to that? Tourism is a third of our
economy for this land, and I'm concerned because of the hit we took last year,
and the indicators are not real positive right now. What are we doing? Are you
committing more resources? Where are with that?
MS. LEY: We tentatively identified some resources in the recovery budget, and
because you folks asked for more details we're going back and doing a
comprehensive review, so we're in that process of doing that. That's one. The
other piece—so that's a more near-term, because the visitor numbers are
important on the near-term basis.
The other piece is that R&D has an existing contract for marketing, and so we've
been working closely with Ross Birch, with the Island of Hawaii Visitors
Bureau. So that extends toI want to say that contract probably extends into
July. Some time into July.
And then, we've put a Request for Proposals (RFP) for visitor marketing and
promotion. That RFP, no determinations had made on it. That's for next fiscal
year. We've had a review committee look at those, and they've just scored—or
ranked their recommendations yesterday. I have not received those. We
anticipate being able to let another contract for that work, so that will be
continuing work. And again, you know, as you mentioned, HTA (Hawai`i
Tourism Authority) continues to do work.
One of the things that we will be looking at very closely, not only with whoever
we're continuing—you know, whoever we contract with for marketing and
promotion as a County, but also in the recovery process we need to, as Ross had
indicated before, rebrand this island. We had focused on the lava as a draw.
While there's many, many more assets to this island, we can't rely on that easy
when, if you will, that unique setting that we had.
So we want to continue through this economic recovery planning process, we
want to identify what are some of those opportunities, how do we lift that up, how
do we share product and activities and experiences? And maybe some of those
are not just on our public lands, our public beaches, our public parks and trails,
but some of them may be on private property. So how do we incentivize that?
How do we get people who are landowners to say, "Hey, I can do horseback
riding, or I can do archery?" Whatever it is, you know, whatever it is. Again, you
know, making sure that it's legal within the land use framework and other laws,
and it's a safe activity. But how do we encourage those types of activities?
So, we do have some proposals out there. More exploratory. We've received a
couple of proposals this year for our request for proposals from entities that want
to share the natural environment with visitors, and they want to partner with our
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tour companies to bring smaller groups of people to get out and explore; what are
the plants, what are the birds, what are our unique features? So we'll continue to
lift that up.
If you have ideas, we're certainly open to that. We want to hear what's unique
and what's worked in other places. You know, whether it's the farm -to -table
concepts or, you know, whatever that is. We need to refocus and refresh.
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah, and I don't disagree. I think all the information we get
across our desk. The Volcano National Park reported their visitor rate is down by
50 percent. We do need to look at other reasons, and there are a lot of reasons out
there. So I might suggest, have a one -day get together with some of the other
providers and just brainstorm and see if you can come up with something.
Another question, concerning the—and again, more housekeeping. Highway 137
and temporary access, is there a timeline on that and is it going to connect to the
Lighthouse Road?
MR. TAKEMOTO: Okay, Highway 137. You mean the spur that would connect
at four corners to give access to Vacationland?
MR. RICHARDS: Yeah.
MR. TAKEMOTO: I don't know what the timing is on that. That's totally
dependent on completing Highway 132 first. Let's focus on that first, before we
even think about 137 or extending to Cape Kumukahi.
MR. RICHARDS: I would agree "finish one thing first," but we've got to talk
about 137, too. And I appreciate everybody wants everything right now. I got it,
and I understand we have to prioritize. Just again, putting it on the table because
there are, I don't want to say demands, but there are needs. I want to be sure that
we're thinking about those as we good forward.
MR. TAKEMOTO: So those need to be costed out, as well.
MS. LEY: Yes.
MR. TAKEMOTO: There's responsibility here on how we use those funds.
There's cost benefits, so that needs to be analyzed.
MR. RICHARDS: Okay. Alright. So with that, I think I will yield at this point.
Thank you. I appreciate you guys being here.
CHR. DAVID: Thank you, Mr. Richards. Anyone else? No? Well, then I must
say it's been a long day, but I really appreciate your patience and being here with
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us all afternoon. Director Ley, Mr. Takemoto, thank you so much. Thank you,
Ms. Kierkiewicz, for bringing this review before us. A lot of information. You
folks are doing an awful lot of work, and we thank you for that.
Council Members, all those in favor of filing Communication 331 please say
Ic aye.
Vote on Comm. 331: The motion to close file on Comm. 331 was carried by
Filed the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and
Chair David — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung, Poindexter, and
Villegas — 3.
Excused: None.
CHR. DAVID: Alright. Thank you.
ORDER OF The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
RESOLUTIONS: Order of Resolutions.
(Items in this category were taken up previously, out of order.)
BILLS FOR The Chair directed the Committee to proceed to the next order of business,
ORDINANCES: Bills for Ordinances.
(There were none.)
CHR. DAVID: To adjourn, all in favor please say "aye."
ADJOURN- There being no further business, at 6:37 p.m., Ms. Lee Loy moved to adjourn
MENT: the meeting. Seconded by Ms. Eoff and carried by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Committee Members Eoff, Kaneali`i-Kleinfelder,
Kierkiewicz, Lee Loy, Richards, and
Chair David — 6.
Noes: None.
Absent: Committee Members Chung, Poindexter, and
Villegas — 3.
Excused: None.
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CHR DAVID We are adjourned. 6lahalo.
Approved
Ms Maile Ntedeiros David, Chair
Finance Committee
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