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Request: A-20a to A-Sa
Tax Map Key: 5-4-002:014
? Change of Zone Application (REZ 99-010)
County Council Initiated (Akana Trust)
Request: RS-10 to CN-20
Tax Man Key: 2-2-25:24
As required by Chapter 4, Sec. 5-4.3(C), Hawaii County Charter, transmitted herewith for the
County Council's consideration and action aze the Planning Commission's letters and
enclosures regarding the above-referenced requests.
Sincerely,
Stephen K. I'~dmashiro
Mayor
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NOV 0 1 1999
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
County of Hawaii
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, HI 96720
Dear Chairman Arakaki and Members:
Change of Zone Application (REZ 99-010)
County Council Initiated (Akana Trust)
Request: RS-10 to CN-20
Tax Map Key: 2-2-25:24
The Planning Commission, after a duly held public hearing on October 15, 1999, voted to
recommend for your approval the proposed legislative bill to change the district classification
for approximately 41,010 squaze feet of land from Single Faznily Residential (RS-10) to
Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20). The original request was from Single Family Residential
(RS-10) to General Commercial (CG-20). The property is located at the southwest corner of
the Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street intersection, Waiakea Houselots Second Series,
Waiakea, South Hilo, Hawaii.
The Commission concurs with the following Planning Director's reasons for recommending
favorable consideration of the change of zone:
County Council Initiated Bill No. 106 (Draft 4) amends the request filed by the
Akana Trust to change the district classification from RS-10 to CN-20. The applicant's
original request was to change the district classification to CG-20 in order to establish a
commercial/office facility. The new facility would be designed to provide space for
business enterprises and services to the University of Hawaii-Hilo as well as the local
community. In reviewing the original request, the County Council felt that the CN-20
designation was more appropriate for the subject property, as the General Commercial
designation seemed to indicate that the parcel be located in either the Downtown area
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
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or a major shopping area, which the parcel is not located in. The amended request was
forwarded to the Planning Commission for reconsideration.
In order to consider an area for any type of zoning designation, the applicable
goals, policies and standards of the General Plan must be adequately addressed. It is
only through such a comprehensive policy analysis approach that evaluations and
decisions can be made to better time and stage developments to achieve growth
determined by the General Plan and related planning documents. The implications of
these evaluations and decisions must be also considered as they may have an impact on
similar areas in the County, but ultimately, on the future development of the whole
island.
The proposed change of zone request from RS-10 to CN-20 would further the
County's goals of providing an economic environment which allows new or existing
businesses to expand and diversify the County's economic base, and thereby also
increase the choice of occupations. The proposed request would be consistent with the
following goals and policies of the Economic Element of the General Plan:
* Provide residents with opportunities to improve their quality of life.
* Economic development and improvement shall be in balance with the physical
and social environments of the island of Hawaii.
* The County of Hawaii shall strive for diversity and stability in its economic
system.
* The County shall provide an economic environment which allows new,
expanded, or improved economic opportunities that are compatible with the
County's natural and social environment.
* The County of Hawaii shall strive for an economic climate which provides its
residents an opportunity for choice of occupation.
* The County of Hawaii shall continue to encourage the expansion of the research
and development industry by working with and supporting the university,
private sector, and other agencies' programs developed to aid the County of
Hawaii.
* The County shall support the development of a master plan for lands within the
vicinity of the University of Hawaii at Hilo to incorporate a "college town"
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
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concept utilizing an appropriate mixture of residential, commercial and other
land uses to complement the university's infrastructure.
The proposed request would also be consistent with the goals and policies of the
Land Use Element of the General Plan. Land use is one of the principal focal points of
public concern and policy. The Land Use Element provides the primary basis for
direct control and guidance of publicly and privately owned resources. It is also
intended to be used as a policy guide for the coordinated growth and development of all
sectors of the County. It sets forth goals, policies, standards and courses of action to
accommodate growth without congestion, to designate and preserve the lands needed
for residential use, commercial and visitor services, industry, agriculture and open
space, and to coordinate these uses with the County's service and circulation systems.
The overall Land Use goals, policies and standards are set forth to physically plan the
lands in the County in the best interest of the island's residents. These state the
following:
* Designate and allocate land uses in appropriate proportions and mix and in
keeping with the social, cultural, and physical environments of the County.
* Zone urban- and rural-types of uses in areas with ease of access to community
services and employment centers and with adequate public utilities and
facilities.
* Allocate appropriate requested zoning in accordance with the existing or
projected needs of neighborhood, community, region and County.
* The county shall encourage the development and maintenance of communities
meeting the needs of its residents in balance with the physical and social
environment.
* Zoning request shall be reviewed with respect to General Plan designation,
district goals, regional plans, State Land Use District, compatibility with
adjacent zoned uses, availability of public services and utilities, access and
public need.
The proposed request would also complement the following goals and policies
of the Commercial Element:
* Provide for commercial developments that maximize convenience to users.
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
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* Distribution of commercial areas shall be such as to best meet the demands of
neighborhood, community and regional needs.
* The development of commercial facilities should be designed to fit into the
locale with minimal intrusion while providing the desired services. Appropriate
infrastructure and design concerns shall be incorporated into the review of such
developments.
* Commercial development shall be located in areas adequately served by
transportation, utilities, and other amenities. Commercial developments shall
provide for adequate internal circulation amongst commercial facilities in the
area.
* Commercial zoned lands in proximity to the University of Hawaii at Hilo shall
be allocated as the need arises.
The Land Use Pattern Allocation Guide (LUPAG) Map component of the
General Plan represents the document's goals, policies, standards and courses of action
to guide the coordinated growth and development of the County. It reflects a graphic
depiction of the spatial relationships among various land uses and the expressed policy
statements of the document itself. The LUPAG Map, in essence, establishes the basic
land use pattern for areas within the County. The subject rezoning action conforms to
the LUPAG Map which designates the area for High Density Urban Development.
This High Density designation allows for commercial, multiple residential and related
services. The proposed site would be suitable and allow for Neighborhood
Commercial uses. The rezoning reclassification would be a reasonable expansion of
commercial activities associated with this designation and the existing commercial uses
in the area.
Although the Hilo Community Development Plan (CDP) Zone Guide Map
adopted in 1975 suggests the retention of Multi Family Residential (R-4) zoning, there
has been increasing demand for additional commercial-zoned lands. This is reflected
by the various change of zone requests approved along Kilauea Avenue to the northeast
of the subject property as well as other properties within the "college town" core area.
The proposed change of zone would, therefore, complement the existing commercial
land uses, be consistent with the transition from residential to commercial that is
occurring in the immediate vicinity and provide for an orderly commercial development
of the area.
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
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The County Council adopted Resolution No. 286 96 on Apri13, 1996, which
encourages the private development of mixed commercial and higher density residential
uses surrounding the University of Hawaii at Hilo campus. The University of Hawaii
at Hilo campus is located approximately 900 feet or two blocks west of the subject
property. The subject property is located within this "college town" core area and
therefore, the proposed development would provide services to the university campus.
The project site is situated within close proximity to schools, commercial areas,
employment centers and public safety services. The surrounding properties consist of a
mixture of commercial and residential uses. The project site is located approximately
one mile from the Hilo urban center where police, fire and emergency medical services
are available. Adjacent surrounding lands are zoned RS-10 and RM-1 and include
single family dwellings and apartment buildings. The ILWU Hall is situated on a
property zoned RS-10 and located approximately 80 feet northwest of the property.
There is a parcel zoned RM-4 located approximately 180 feet north east of the
property. Commercial establishments including Tyke's Dry Cleaning and Scruffles
Restaurant are located approximately 500 feet from the subject property to the
northeast, on Kilauea Street. Along Kilauea Street one block northeast of the subject
property, the following commercial rezonings have been approved:
A. TMK: 2-2-24: 13, RS-10 to CO-20, Ordinance No. 83 842 (REZ 423) effective
2/10/83, to William Brilhante. This site was subsequently rezoned from CO-20
to CG-20, Ordinance 86 42 (REZ 522) effective 5/15/86, currently the site of a
real estate office.
B. TMK: 2-2-24:14, RS-10 to CG-20, Ordinance No. 92 26 (REZ 707) effective
3/11/92 to Sandra Kaneshiro.
C. TMK: 2-2-24: Por. 15, RS-10 to CG-10, Ordinance No. 89 161 (REZ 651)
effective 12/22/89, to Sandra Kaneshiro, site of Scruffles Restaurant, Paradise
Cafe, Tyke's Laundromat, Personal Touch Dry Cleaners, and retail uses.
D. TMK: 2-2-24:1, RS-10 to CG-10, Ordinance No. 96 84 (REZ 826) effective
7/26/96 to Wayne and Sandra Kaneshiro. This property on the corner of
Lanikaula Street and Kilauea Avenue is currently vacant.
Commercial zoning has also been approved on TMK: 2-2-38:26, RS-10 to CN-10,
Ordinance No. 97 4 (REZ 841) effective 1/20/97, to Betty Tomori, site of the existing
Ken's Service Station, as said property is situated within the "college town" core area.
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
Page 6
All utilities and services which are essential to accommodate urban development
are or will be made available to the project site. Current access to the site is from
Lanikaula Street. However, the applicant proposes access to the property from both
Kinoole and Lanikaula Streets, which are County roadways. Kinoole Street has an
approximate 36-foot wide pavement in fair to good condition, with concrete curbs and
sidewalks within an existing 60-foot right-of-way. Lanikaula Street has an approximate
40-foot wide pavement in fair to good condition, with concrete curbs, gutters, and
sidewalks, all within an existing 60-foot right-of--way. The Department of Public
Works requires that the applicant provide commercial standazd sidewalks (sidewalks
with no planter strips) along the entire frontage of the subject property, and provide
channelization improvements to the Lanikaula/Kinoole Street intersection and the
proposed driveways. Further, the department recommends that driveways be adjusted
to the extreme corners, away from the Lanikaula/Kinoole Street intersection, as certain
turning movements into and out of the property will be restricted. The Department of
Public Works also recommends that a wheelchair ramp on the corner of the intersection
be provided, meeting with the approval of the Commission on Persons with Disabilities
and the Department of Public Works. The Department of Water Supply notes that
water would be available from a 5/8-inch from the 6-inch waterline along Kinoole
Street which fronts the property. Since the request would allow uses that may exceed
the 600 gpd maximum allowed usage, the Department of Water Supply requires that
the applicant submit an anticipated maximum daily water usage recommended by a
registered engineer. Further, the applicant will be required to remit a water
commitment deposit. All other utilities and services aze available to the subject
property.
The project has no severe geological or topographical problems which cannot be
properly rectified or which would render the land unusable. The subject property is
relatively level. According to the Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM), it is within Zone
X, an area determined to be outside the 500-year flood plain. The subject property is
also located outside of any tsunami inundation azea. Any new construction or
improvements to the project area must comply with Chapter 27 of the County Code
relating to Flood Hazazd Control. The subject property has been previously developed
with a residence and therefore, no endangered or threatened species of floral or fauna
nor any archaeological sites are anticipated to be found on the subject property.
To mitigate any potential noise and visual impacts to adjacent neighbors, it is
recommended that a landscaping buffer, to be determined during plan approval review,
be established along the rear property boundaries.
Honorable James Y. Arakaki, Chairman
and Members of the County Council
Page 7
Based on the above findings, this request for a Change of Zone from a Single
Family Residential (RS-10) to a Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20) zoned district
would result in an appropriate land use pattern that would further benefit the general
public.
For your favorable consideration, an amendment to Section 25-8-33, the City of Hilo Zone
Map, of the County Zoning Code is transmitted.
We are enclosing a copy of the application and a copy of the staff background for your
information.
Sincerely,
Leonard S. Tanaka, Chairman
Planning Commission
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Enclosures
cc: Mr. Glen Koyama
Mr. Alfred Akana
Department of Public Works
Department of Water Supply
Kazu Hayashida, Director/DOT-Highways, Honolulu
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COUNTY COUNCIL
County of Hawaii
Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
November 4, 1999
James Y. Arakaki, Chair
Hawaii County Council
25 Aupuni Street
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
RE: Attached Communication No. 375.006 (Bill 167)
Pursuant to Section 1(e) of Rule 4 of the Rules of Procedure of the Council of the County
of Hawaii, this written approval is submitted in regards to Communication No. 375.006,
Bill No. 167 regarding Akana Trust change of zone application, waiving said referral
from the Committee on Planning to full Council in order that appropriate action can be
taken by the Council.
In reviewing the contents of the referral, it is deemed advisable that such waiver be
granted.
obby Jean Leithead-Todd, C air
Committee on Planning
Approved:
Y. Arakaki, Chair
Hawaii ounty Council
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PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
October 15, 1999
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of AKANA TRUST was called to order at
9:50 a.m. in the County Building, Councilroom-Room 201, 25 Aupuni Street, Hilo, Hawaii,
with Chairman Leonard Tanaka presiding.
PRESENT: Leonard Tanaka ABSENT & EXCUSED: Lin McIntosh
Richard Baker, Jr. Florence Kubota
Geraldine Giffin
Mildred Mosher
James Souza
Grant Togashi
Virginia Goldstein, Planning Director
Alice Kawaha, Staff Planner
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Susan Gagorik, Staff Planner
Fred Giannini, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Kelly Gomes representing the Department of Public Works
Bruce McClure representing Department of Water Supply
And approximately 15 people from the public in attendance.
TANAKA: Okay. We'll move on to the next agenda item; and this is a County
Council initiated Bill No. 106 Draft 4, proposed bill relating to a request filed by the Akana
Trust for a change of zone by changing the district classification from Single Family
Residential (RS-10) to Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20) for approximately 41,010 square
feet of land. The original request was from Single Family Residential (RS-10) to General
Commercial (CG-20). The property is located on the southwest corner of the Kinoole Street
and Lanikaula Street intersection, Waiakea Houselots, Second Series, Waiakea, South Hilo,
Hawaii. Okay, Ms. Fujimoto.
FUJIMOTO: Yes, thank you. Before I begin, I'd like to make a slight correction in
our recommendation, on page 7, five lines from the bottom, where it says, "Based on the
above findings, this request for a change of zone from a Single Family Residential (RS-10) to
a General Commercial," it should say "Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20).
TANAKA: I'm sorry, what page was that?
FUJIMOTO: Page 7 of your recommendation.
TANAKA: Okay. Thank you.
FUJIMOTO: Okay.
TANAKA: Proceed.
FUJIMOTO: Okay, thank you. At the June 18th Planning Commission meeting, the
Commissioners voted to send a no recommendation to the County Council on this request.
The Council then amended the bill, the request from the original CG-20 to a CN-20, and
referred the matter back to the Planning Commission for further review and reconsideration.
Basically, the Council felt that the CN designation would be a more appropriate one for this
site, and the Applicant agrees to this change.
Now yesterday, we received a letter from potential buyers of the property who, with the
permission of the sellers, have requested to amend the proposed Conditions D and E of the
bill; and I believe that was distributed to the Commissioners this morning. And the Planning
Director has agreed to the change.
TANAKA: Has everyone received that
BAKER: Yes.
TANAKA: Dated October 14`h. Okay. We'd like to acknowledge the presence,
also, of Councilman Aaron Chung. Thank you for being here. Okay. Any questions for
Staff, Commissioners? Commissioner Mosher.
MOSHER: This is to Virginia, and it's with Condition E. I wondered why you
agreed to the conditions but providing wheelchair improvement put on only for new
construction and not if they retain just the present dwelling.
TANAKA: You're talking about the proposed Condition E?
MOSHER: The proposed Condition E.
TANAKA: Okay.
MOSHER: It said provided that such improvements, which would be the wheelchair
access, shall be applicable only to new commercial structures and not the use of the existing
structure. I read this to mean that the existing could be changed to Commercial
Neighborhood, no new buildings constructed, and no wheelchair access needed.
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GOLDSTEIN: I don't think that that was the intent of the way that the condition was
worded, that it was meant to be only if the other improvements would be applicable to new
commercial structures. Because under the ADA kinds of requirements, the whole structure
MOSHER: Used.
GOLDSTEIN: Existing, yeah, also. It might, I mean we might want to
MOSHER: Have to reword it.
GOLDSTEIN: Further reword this to make it clear.
MOSHER: Okay.
GOLDSTEIN: You know, I'm going to have to take a look at this a little bit more
closely.
MOSHER: But you see where I'm coming from?
GOLDSTEIN: Yeah, yeah, I see where you're coming from.
MOSHER: Okay. Thank you.
TANAKA: What is your concern again, Commissioner Mosher?
MOSHER: My concern was that if the present structure is turned into Commercial
Neighborhood, no wheelchair or ADA requirements would be required. It would only be
required if there was new construction.
TANAKA: Okay. So there's two areas of concern then. One would be the ADA
requirements for the building.
MOSHER: For the existing, existing structure.
TANAKA: Right. Which should be covered under the
MOSHER: Under ADA.
TANAKA: Building permit process or the submission of plans
MOSHER: It would be.
TANAKA: If we're going to change the use of that building.
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GOLDSTEIN: Right.
MOSHER: But that's not how I read this condition.
GIANNINI: What
GOLDSTEIN: But, but
TANAKA: This condition, I think, addresses the wheelchair ramp at the
intersection, correct?
MOSHER: Well, that would be part of the ADA requirements, wouldn't it?
TANAKA: We can maybe ask Mr. Gomes from Public Works because it would
come under their jurisdiction if they, as far as the wheelchair ramp on the intersection
MOSHER: Yeah, it's the wheelchair ramp on the intersection.
TANAKA: That you're concerned about.
MOSHER: Yes, because I think the structure would require a wheelchair ramp onto
the structure.
TANAKA: Right.
MOSHER: But I was, at the intersection.
TANAKA: Okay. There is a mechanism for wheelchair accessibility, ADA
requirements on the building site, okay, so that's covered.
MOSHER: Yeah.
TANAKA: Mr. Gomes, maybe you can address that for Commissioner Mosher.
GOMES: If there was a reconstruction done on the intersection, then they would
need to provide a wheelchair ramp, according to the ADA.
TANAKA: Only if
GOMES: If there's any reconstruction.
TANAKA: New construction?
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GOMES: And right now, at this point, the Department of Public Works is
initiating an inventory of the whole Island as far as wheelchair ramps and the need to improve
substandard ones and the need to construct new wheelchair ramps. But according to the ADA,
we are not required to put in wheelchair ramps unless there's reconstruction at that site.
BAKER: I have a question for him.
TANAKA: Okay.
BAKER: So if I'm
TANAKA: Commissioner Baker.
BAKER: Understanding you correctly, if they don't make any new construction,
they use the existing building into a, and we approve a neighborhood commercial, the
sidewalk area where See, there's two people that go up and down that area on these small
motorized carts that have a red flag, one is a man, one is a lady.
GIFFIN: Yeah.
MOSHER: Yeah.
BAKER: And I see them around there a lot because I work in that area. And so,
you know, for them to go into this area or be in that area, I see it would be a problem; and if
that could be improved, I think it would be a good need. Now, it, there, legally, is no
requirement that they have to do that for that area?
GOMES: I'm not aware of it, the legal requirement. Because of the construction
of this development, I'd have to check on our inventory that we are doing and any, what the
consultant has requested as far as improving intersections or what time frame we need to have
wheelchair ramps.
TANAKA: Okay. Also, maybe we can have the Applicant come forward. We just
received this letter that there is a potential buyer. So my question to that is because this is
new, I want to see if the intent of the development of this property is the same as the original.
So maybe we can defer and come back to you, Mr. Gomes, depending on how this might
affect the application as far as this new potential buyer. So would the Applicant or its
representatives please come forward. And I have one person signed up to testify, Mr. Ben
Tsukazaki. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to testify on this agenda item?
I guess not. Okay, if not, if I could swear you all in. Raise your right hand. And do you
sweaz or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawaii County Planning
Commission?
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TESTIFIERS: I do.
TANAKA: Okay. Thank you. Have you received the new background and
recommendation report?
KOYAMA: Yes, I have.
TANAKA: Okay. Do you have any comments?
KOYAMA: As you know by now, the last time I appeared before you, I indicated to
you that the owner had received, since applying for a change of zone application, an offer
from an interested party to purchase the property with a condition that he has the new zoning.
We are pursuing that possibility, at this point, and the buyer, the interested buyer, is interested
in leaving the existing structure for a professional office. The buyer is here today, and the
owner is open to having the buyer speak on these conditions.
TANAKA: Okay. You can remain seated up there. If we can call Mr. Tsukazaki
up. And everybody is in receipt of the letter from Tsukazaki, Yeh & Moore as the potential
buyers. Mr. Tsukazaki, would you shed some light on what your plans are, or your company,
your corporation is planning to do with this property?
TSUKAZAKI: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. By the way, at the top, let me apologize for
the late submittal yesterday of this revised language. As indicated in the letter, our firm is a
potential buyer of the property. We are under contract to purchase the property subject to
certain conditions. And the purpose of our buying this property would be to relocate our law
firm's office to the site. We would use the existing dwelling structure, try to renovate the
inside; and we, at this point, based upon the contractor that we're working with, it's quite
clear that we'll have to provide some on-site parking space to comply with the Code
requirements. But really, what we're hoping to do is to be able to relocate our office there
without significantly changing the character of that property, try to keep it the way it is. It's a
really nice site; and we'd like to avoid altering it as much as possible.
If I may respond to the issue on, that was raised on the ADA requirements, Condition E, I
believe, Commissioner Mosher directed attention to that language. And, again, I want to
make clear that the position that we had was that, and actually our understanding is the same
as Mr. Gomes, is that, you know, when you're in the County right-of--way like that, you're
talking about a wheelchair ramp at the intersection. Our understanding is [hat that's basically
a County requirement, to conform its infrastructure basically to what the ADA requires. And
so that's why you've seen throughout town, the County gradually make improvements of a lot
of intersections to make it wheelchair accessible.
So, again, it's not the ADA requirements or improvements on our property, which we are
under a separate requirement to do; there's no question about those. So the focus is on that
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intersection. And our position was that given the kind of practice we have, basically, clients,
potential clients, really would not be using the sidewalk, would not be using that intersection.
They would basically be driving into our property, parking in the parking lot, and then
walking into our office. So we do not anticipate any significant level of foot traffic to our law
office; and, therefore, we did not feel that there was a justification for us to make an
improvement at the intersection on the County's property. And if I'm wrong in any of that,
you know, we can try to address that with Public Works and try to sort it out. But I'm just
explaining that to you that, basically, as you can see throughout these conditions, we're trying
to avoid requirements that would be imposed in these conditions for new construction at the
site because we do not plan on constructing a new building. We're planning on using the
existing building. So, basically, that's what our intent is.
TANAKA: Commissioners? Commissioner Togashi.
TOGASHI: Yeah, it does seem that the proposed use on this piece of property, I
guess, previously the intent was to put up some kind of a, I guess a, like a Kinko's, I guess, to
MOSHER: Kinko's?
TOGASHI: Right, something like that, right, a Kinko's or a, like a Xeroxing center,
yeah, which is something that the university students could use. But now the proposed use is
something where I sense that the students would not be able to avail themselves of this type of
And I guess, you know, in the background report, you know, there was so much discussion
about, you know, the, I guess the intent of, or the concept of a college town, yeah, within this
area; and a, I guess, your proposed use, Mr. Tsukazaki, kind of runs counter to that concept
of creating this college [own.
TSUKAZAKI: Well, hopefully, there will be some students who'll need some legal
services down the road.
TOGASHI: Are you going to be like the Legal Aid or something like
TSUKAZAKI: And we would try to do our part, yeah. Yes, and that's a good point;
that's well taken. I saw certain portions of the proceedings at the Council level, and so that
was reflected, what you're bringing up was reflected at the Council level. On one hand, it
would be beneficial to have more services available at that site to serve the
TOGASHI: University students.
TSUKAZAKI: Student population.
TOGASHI: Right.
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TSUKAZAKI: Yeah. And on the other hand, you know, there were some people in
favor of trying to preserve
GIFFIN: The neighborhood.
TSUKAZAKI: That particular property in as close to its existing condition as possible.
So there's some choices that have to be made.
Nevertheless, under the General Plan designation, we believe that the proposed zoning would
be appropriate. Our law office use would be a permitted use under that kind of zoning. And I
hope that, you know, that the Planning Commission would just take that into account that,
again, we tend to look at things only in terms of today. The General Plan looks at things long-
term. Even if we establish a law office there, you know, and are fortunate enough to practice
there for 10-20 years, that doesn't mean it'll always be a law office; it, at some point, may
very well be converted to some other kind of use. And I wanted to mention that the language
that I had proposed here tries to account for that. There's only an exemption from needing to
put in certain kind of improvements if we use the existing dwelling. But at such time where
there is new construction, a new structure, new commercial structure, then that structure
would be subject to whatever the Code requirements are at that point. So, this has a long term
effect, as well as a short term one.
TANAKA: I have a question for you, because this is your proposed condition, and
also I need some comments from Staff. But on your Condition D, you mentioned some of the
improvements that we would need to make, you would need to make to meet with DPW's
requirements; and one of them was, and it's not only you, I think you probably took it from
the Staff's recommendation, channelized, channelization improvements to the Lanikaula-
Kinoole S[reet intersection. And being familiar with most of the signalized intersections in
Hilo because I've had a part of it somehow or another, whether it's new construction or
upgrading or renovation, I'm familiar with this one here, and I just didn't understand how we
could put further channelization in addition to what is already there when you have a
signalized intersection. Was that your intent to further chammelize that?
TSUKAZAKI: You know to
TANAKA: I mean if I look at that, the map there, and I know where the intersection
sits with the signals, and even with the driveways that are proposed, it's in such close
proximity to that that it seems to me the signals itself will handle the control of traffic.
TSUKAZAKI: I really, I really do not know the technical considerations on that issue.
In the portion of the County Council proceedings that I heard, it seemed to be acknowledged
that it would be discretionary with the Department of Public Works as to whether there really
is a need to channelize
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TANAKA: Okay.
TSUKAZAKI: Anything more, given what the actual use is that's proposed. And, but
that's a good point. I mean, the way it reads right now, someone could read that and say,
well, it's mandatory
TANAKA: Right.
TSUKAZAKI: That you have to put in some channelization improvements. And to be
honest with you, I really wouldn't know what those would be at this point because I recall that
there is channelization right now.
TANAKA: That's correct.
GIFFIN: At Kinoole.
KOYAMA: Mr. Chairman?
GIFFIN: Kinoole.
TANAKA: Mr. Koyama.
KOYAMA: That, I believe at the last Commission hearing we addressed that
question to the Public Works Staff person. And I think he, what he had in mind was that not
so much at that intersect, the property intersection, where the streets cross, but basically
further away from the intersection where the driveways are located, to take care of the left-
turn movements into the property. So he was looking at some kind of storage lane facility to
accommodate left-turn movements.
TANAKA: Again, I wonder, you know, just the distance that we have there, you
have your proposed driveway, you have an apartment building right above it, yeah, and just
the close proximity, I would think maybe wording, "if required." Even that, I think is maybe
too vague. I think that it should be stricken from the condition, but we'll let maybe Mr.
Gomes offer comments. Mr. Yanagihara is not here for the next couple of months, yeah, so
we're really breaking him in on the first day.
BAKER: I think, Mr. Tanaka, the concern was on Lanikaula coming down. And
that's where we wanted to have some storage because of
TANAKA: That's right.
BAKER: The buses
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TANAKA: And that's where the
BAKER: In the morning.
TANAKA: Other driveway is, yeah?
BAKER: Yeah. And in the morning
TANAKA: Yeah.
BAKER: When the buses line up and stuff.
TANAKA: Okay.
CHUNG: Excuse me, Mr. Chairman.
TANAKA: Councilman Chung.
CHUNG: I have a meeting in Pahoa at 11:00. I'm just wondering if there's any
questions that the Commission may have of me. Ms. Leithead-Todd is going to stay here for
the remainder of this matter.
TANAKA: Why don't you come forward while you're here, and we can maybe just
get your comments, since you're here. Councilwoman Leithead-Todd, are you going to testify
today, too?
LEITHEAD-TODD: If you have questions.
TANAKA: Why don't I swear you both in, Council Members. Do you swear
Well, you're already sworn in; I'm sorry.
LEITHEAD-TODD: I already am.
TANAKA: Do you swear to affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Hawaii
County Planning Commission?
CHUNG: I do.
TANAKA: Thank you. Commissioners, Mr. Chung represents the, this area; this is
his Council District. We have all received the minutes of the Council meeting. Does anybody
have any questions of him? Commissioner Souza.
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SOUZA: I don't have a question, but if Mr. Chung has got to leave, I do want to
make a statement, regardless how I'm voting and how I feel at this point, because I have more
questions. But my feeling, I voted against this the last time, and my feeling doesn't change
that I don't think at this time we should put any kind of development beyond Lanikaula Street.
Once you start developing, to me, Lanikaula Street, at this point, we have enough land on the
Hilo side of Lanikaula than the Puna side. And once you start developing the Puna side of
Lanikaula, in essence, you're saying yes, we are open to development on the Puna side and
take it out of residential. And I don't think that's right at this point in time. Now this
morning I'm hearing that the fellow that's going buy the land, he plans to put a lawyer's
office. Now, I'm not sure that he can put the lawyer's office under any zoning designation
besides neighborhood commercial. I'm not opposed to something like a lawyer's office
because the traffic would be very minimal; but I am, at this point, unless other discussion
come up, against putting commercial development beyond Lanikaula. And what I'm trying to
say is I think that we should be looking more toward planning the future, what we want. If
you say yes, I think we should have development between Lanikaula, and what's the next
street now, whatever
GOLDSTEIN: Kawili.
TANAKA: Kawili.
SOUZA: Yeah, then I say fine, that's your opinion. But I'm, I just feel strongly
that in planning, you know, we think about planning, not reacting to an application, that at this
point in time, I don't think we should think of any kind of commercial development Puna side
of Lanikaula. I offer that as my comments since you have to leave.
TANAKA: Councilman, go ahead. You want to respond, Ihave afeeling
CHUNG: I don't think there's much to respond to that commentary. I certainly
recognize Commissioner Souza's sentiment. Basically, what he has expressed though is a
philosophical idea. And couched in planning principles, and like anything else, different
people will have different philosophies. I certainly respect what he's saying, and there's a lot
of reason to the statements. But, at the same time, if you look on the Puna side of, and I'm
not saying that I'm in support of this or not, but I'm just responding to the comments. If you
look on the Puna side of Lanikaula, you have the commercial development, which was the old
Wiki-Wiki Mart; that's on the Puna side of Lanikaula, if you go a little bit more down that
side. And I think that entire block which is encompassed by Lanikaula and Kawili will, as
Commissioner Togashi pointed out, will be the main area which will comprise the so-called
college town that we all envision in the future. And everybody talks about the college town,
and I think it's reasonable to assume that that block will be it.
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I think a more compelling argument would be to say that there will be no commercial
development Hamakua of Lanikaula or perhaps Puna of Kawili. But to say Puna of Lanikaula,
that's really, to me, the main block, that's where the action is going to be.
But I think Commissioner Togashi actually pointed out what I would consider another
philosophical difference or issue. It's that he felt that the proposed development was intended
to be ancillary to this college town concept and would service the students or faculty or
whatever the case may be, and now you're having a totally different development. To that, I
would answer and, you know, again, I would reiterate I'm not in support or against it at this
point, but I think I stated at the Council level that I'm not against a landowner utilizing his
property at its best and highest use. I mean, certainly, that is his or her prerogative.
In this situation, my personal feeling was this. You know, being a lifelong resident of Hilo, I
don't know how many Hilo residents we have on this Commission, but you know, I sort of
grew up seeing that stately home, and it's a very nice home with a large yard, and it's just
something that I grew up with. And to approve a development there, which was contemplated
earlier or the sale that was contemplated earlier, would almost, on a sentimental level, be like
saying goodbye to an old friend. It would almost be like the death knell to something that I
had seen or grown up with. And, therefore, my feeling was opposite from the
Commissioners. I wanted to provide this incentive to the development of a full-blown facility
there, in the sense that perhaps we would put more traffic requirements or other types of
infrastructure requirements if a new development was going to be done. And if they retained
the old building and used it, well, used the existing dwelling, then they could get away with, I
wouldn't say, you know, they would still have to do some infrastructure things, but it
wouldn't be as onerous as if they came up with afull-blown development. And I would use
the term "springing," something would spring into action later on in the event that they did
decide to raze that building and develop something later. So something could be triggered at a
later date. But some other people may feel that it might be probably more advisable to have or
better to have a bigger type development. We could have a Kinko's or maybe a little
convenience store to service that need in the community. And, again, it all really comes down
to philosophies; and I respect, you know, everyone's philosophy on that.
TANAKA: Commissioner Souza.
SOUZA: May I just make a short comment. I question whether this town or that
area is ready for a so-called college town concept. Remember, Wiki-Wiki Mart was one they
had to close, which tells me that the college was not accepting that area at least. You would
think that would be the most profitable one they had, but it didn't go. So I question whether
we are ready for this now.
CHUNG: Again, in response to that commentary, I think, and I don't want to go
into a whole discourse about economics in our small community, but I think that the closing of
Wiki-Wiki was more a function of some other external factors involved with the Sure Save
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Company rather than its location; that's my personal feeling. Because, you know, we've been
seeing Sure Save closing all over the place and, you know, this may have been one more
fatality in that, all of that. I, personally, feel that that Wiki-Wiki Mart location is an excellent
location for someone to start a business, you know, to take advantage of not only the college
traffic but the Waiakea High School traffic, as well. I mean, if I were a businessman, and I
had something, you know, that I thought I could present as a product, I think that would be
one hell of a location.
TANAKA: Mr. Chung, I have a question. You know, the General Plan allows for
high density urban development in this area. What is your, given the discussion, what is your
general feel about the designation as it stands now?
CHUNG: Could you repeat that? I'm sorry.
TANAKA: The General Plan allows for high density urban development in this area
so which equates to, as we as Commissioners, we look at that as our guide for planning.
CHUNG: Right.
TANAKA: It was mentioned earlier about trying to look to the future, to be pro-
active and not reactive. So we really heavily rely on the General Plan as our guide, what is
allowed and what is not allowed. Just give us your comments, your feeling. This whole area
is under General Plan use high density.
CHUNG: Well, I think the General Plan designation is consistent with, again, I
hate to reiterate this whole college town concept for that area. However, the reason why the
County Council sent this initially back to the Commission was because of what we viewed as
being a technicality perhaps or a policy decision perhaps. And that was that the designation
that was being asked for was a CG, Commercial General. And we felt, based on our
examination of the Hawaii County Code and the requirements for the various designations, the
more appropriate commercial designation would be a CN that's what's before you today.
And, you know, I really don'[ have the County Code in front of me, but if you look at the
requirements of the two designations, you would see that probably the CN is more
appropriate. Ms. Leithead-Todd, who is the chairperson for the Planning Committee of the
County Council, has more information on, you know, in what properties have CN designations
in the surrounding area. But I believe, and again, it's a philosophical issue, that the General
Plan has enunciated a direction for the County which is in keeping with the spirit or the ideas
of a vision for that area.
TANAKA: Okay.
CHUNG: I think it's consistent.
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TANAKA: Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Mosher.
MOSHER: I just wanted to thank representative, not representative, Councilman
Chung for referring this back to us and following the Hawaii County Code, because that gives
people the opportunity to discuss this further.
TANAKA: Thank you for being here.
CHUNG: Thank you very much.
TANAKA: Let's finish up with Mr. Gomes on this channelization and we can move
on.
GOMES: Before we talk about the channelization, I'd like to bring up our Division
Chief, Galen Kuba, to discuss about the ADA transition.
TANAKA: Okay. Mr. Kuba, if I could swear you in first. Do you swear or affirm
to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawaii County Planning Commission?
KUBA: I do.
TANAKA: Thank you. Name and address for the record, please.
KUBA: My name is Galen Kuba. You want my personal address?
TANAKA: Yeah. We want to find you.
KUBA: Three nine three Noe Street, Hilo, Hawaii.
TANAKA: Okay. Thank you. You may proceed. You have some comments about
the ADA requirements?
KUBA: I'm not quite certain what the discussion was about, but I believe Kelly
was, advised me that you were concerned about the time frame and what is involved.
TANAKA: There is a question by Commissioner Mosher about the requirement.
There is a condition that is being proposed, and her concern is about the requirement, if any,
on the wheelchair ramp at the intersection.
KUBA: As far as requirements on the County of Hawaii, we are required to, by
the year 2005, to upgrade all existing curb ramps to ADA standards and to install curb ramps
where none are presently existing, by the year 2005, and this is Island-wide.
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TANAKA: And do you have plans, does the County have any plans for this
intersection in the immediate future?
KUBA: I believe so. I have to double check. But we have several signalization
upgrade jobs. And we are gradually, as part of the signalization job, we are required to
correct the curb ramps. I believe this azea will be covered because we are covering almost
every, we are upgrading almost every traffic signal from Waianuenue to, I think, Kawailani.
TANAKA: You know, thank you for bringing it up. I am the contractor doing that.
So he is correct, there are about 10 intersections in Hilo that are going to be upgraded.
KUBA: Right.
TANAKA: The reason I forgot about it is because I'm waiting for you folks to fund
the thing.
KUBA: Oh. I'll look into that.
TANAKA: But he is correct. I'm sorry, Commissioners. There are plans, like
Mr. Kuba had said, to not only upgrade the signals but to put in the required drainage, as well
as infrastructure for wheelchair ramps. Okay. Commissioner Mosher, does it answer your
question?
MOSHER: Yes, thank you.
TANAKA: Okay. Okay, regazding the channelization then, Mr. Gomes, would you
be opposed to if we reworded it, if there are some concerns from the Commissioners And
do you have a copy of this, the conditions, the proposed condition?
GOMES: Yes.
TANAKA: And what I'm thinking, Commissioners, is that right now it appears that
it is mandatory for channelization improvements to be made on the intersection, but if we
could perhaps move that channelization improvements to the second sentence where it says,
"street lights, signs, and markings shall be installed, if required." And we would just add that
in so if you feel that it's required, I certainly think it's not, again, being familiar with the
intersection and signalizing it
GOMES: Yeah, I think the channelization improvements as required, I mean, as
recommended by Casey, what he was concerned about, I guess, is the left-turn movement into
Lanikaula where you'd have a backing up problem like you have at Burger King. And if we
do it through traffic control devices as signs, no left turn, it wouldn't be a requirement; it
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would be more like an advisory thing. So I think that was, his scope was to try and limit or
somehow alleviate the traffic from backing up, but I guess it wasn't worded properly.
TANAKA: Would you have objections to that then if we did that change?
KUBA: Can I make a quick comment
TANAKA: Sure.
KUBA: Regarding traffic on Lanikaula?
TANAKA: Okay.
KUBA: As you may or may not know, we are pursuing the construction of the
Mohouli Street Extension which will, I guess, I live in the neighborhood also, and one of the
concerns my neighborhood had was potential traffic impacts on Lanikaula from the Ainako
area. I can see that is a potential problem, so we are looking at upgrading the intersection at
Lanikaula and Mohouli. How that affects this area, I believe there may be an impact, too; but
that's difficult for me to say at this point in time. But we are looking at, you know, a general
upgrade of Lanikaula Street because even today, there is a backlog between the Kinoole-
Kilauea intersections during school hours. I mean, it backs up all the way back. I mean, you
can't cross that intersection.
TANAKA: Right.
GOMES: So there is a potential for further upgrades. How much, you know, I
really can't say. But I think when the extension goes through we probably will see some
impacts to the area as far as traffic.
TANAKA: I think that's great. And I think that is ultimately what it requires;
because when you have the signal right in close proximity to those driveways, you're not
really solving the problem. Okay, so thank you for the comment. Commissioners, any
further questions for Mr. Gomes or Mr. Kuba? Commissioner Giffin.
GIFFIN: So then we're speaking of channelization on Lanikaula, right, not at the
intersection?
TANAKA: Right.
GIFFIN: Okay. Okay.
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TANAKA: So the proposal is, and this is up to the Commission, to move
channelization improvements to the second sentence so that it reads, along with the others,
"street light signs and markings shall be installed," but we would add in "channelization."
GIFFIN: "Channelization."
TANAKA: "If required."
GIFFIN: Yeah.
TANAKA: And I think it requires some careful study on that because
KUBA: Very true.
TANAKA: Physically, my mind, from a contractor's standpoint, I don't know how
that can happen. But you folks are the experts and if you can find a way, great. But if you're
going to upgrade like you said, I think that might be the ultimate resolution. Okay. Thank
you, gentlemen. Councilwoman Leithead-Todd. Is there anyone else in the audience that
would like to testify? Okay.
LEITHEAD-TODD: I don't know if you got my message. Iran out to the intersection.
TANAKA: Okay.
LEITHEAD-TODD: There are four curb cuts for wheelchairs
TANAKA: Okay.
LEITHEAD-TODD: Currently in place.
GIFFIN: Oh.
LEITHEAD-TODD: Yeah, they are current Well, I was almost positive, but I ran out in
my car to make sure because my girlfriend lived on the corner; and I remember them
constructing
GIFFIN: So it's there.
LEITHEAD-TODD: The wheelchair ramps are already there at all four corners of that
intersection.
TANAKA: Okay. Great.
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LEITHEAD-TODD: They were put in by Public Works a couple years ago. I think the issue
for Public Works is the ADA standards have changed so that a lot of the curb cuts we put in a
few years ago
BAKER: Don't meet the standards.
LEITHEAD-TODD: No longer meet current ADA standards because they altered the slope
grade that you are allowed on the wheelchair ramps; and that's why we're having to re-assess
even [hose intersections where we went in and installed curb cuts. The
I didn't agree at the County Council with some of the decisions in terms of this. I looked at
this as a high density urban area. I did not have a problem with the commercial, the CG
designation; and part of that is because off of Kawili Street, mauka of Waiakea High School,
is where the University is intending to put in what they call Vulcan Village. They have been
meeting with Taiwanese investors for sometime now; I have been involved in some of those
meetings. They are going to be putting a commercial complex in there as well as residential
facilities. We're looking at things like a conference center, things like a pizza parlor, perhaps
a couple of movie theaters, and that would be at the top of Kawili where it curves. And the
intent to have it there is because it would align with the realignment of Puainako Avenue
which will swing in towards the University there. There are also plans to place a kind of a
multi-purpose complex, a sports complex similar to, if you've been to Manoa campus and
you've seen the place where they play volleyball, I can't think of the name of that facility.
MOSHER: Stan Sheriff Center.
LEITHEAD-TODD: The Stan Sheriff Center. They're looking at doing something like that.
And the entrance to that might be off of Kawili, closer to where Puainako will come in; and
they are looking at that Puainako-Kawili area as the primary entrance areas to the University
of Hawaii.
They just are finishing up the internal road that goes from the Research Park where the
telescope, the observatory facilities are, connecting it to Kawili, and so you are going to have
that spur development. You have the Wiki-Wiki Mart on one corner. The corner opposite
Wiki-Wiki Mart, if I am correct, is also CG, because there is a construction company that
works out of that particular piece of property.
TANAKA: Oh, yeah, right, right.
LEITHEAD-TODD: Yeah. So you already have some movement in that area. And, also, the
University's plans are to try and double the size of the University population. We are
currently at about 2,500 students. The most recent long range plans formulated by the
University of Hawaii are to double that to 5,000. It is intended to be a residential campus; and
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so the Vulcan Village and other facilities are intended to service that. And I think as that
occurs, the need for commercial property will occur in that area.
The Council's arguments centered over, and this was Mr. Chung, primarily, and Mr. Tyler,
that the CG designation they saw as somehow being restricted to major shopping areas and the
Downtown Hilo area. So in their minds, you would need, you could only give CG if you
were planning something like the Redevco, the Prince Kuhio Plaza area, or you were going to
do something like Downtown Hilo, and that you could not do CG anywhere else. So all those
other properties that are already zoned CG, if it was coming before them, they would use that
as an argument not to do it. And the reality is, is you have a changing neighborhood, the
commercial areas are moving. You are going to have, the fact that you have, I think you have
got Hal's, Tyke's, there's another commercial development, all in a row, it, that neighborhood
is changing.
I think the other problem that the Akana property had, and this is something we didn't discuss,
is that, frankly, once you zoned the property next door RM, and put in a multi-story apartment
building, the ability of the owners to sell the property as an upscale residence was diminished.
It is a very beautiful home. If it was surrounded by like homes behind it, you could command
a very good price. But if you go to that residence and you are next door to a, I think it's a
three- or four-story apartment building, and it is an affordable apartment building, I think it's
very difficult [o go and command the kind of price for that home that you could if it were
located on Reed's Island, if it were in Sunrise Ridge. It's a beautiful home. But I think that
market, when they come and look for that kind of house, they're going to go elsewhere.
They're not going to want to be next to an apartment building; that's a reality. So I think
when you put the apartment building in some, not you but in the sense that we allowed that
development to take place, you almost forced property owners in front of those apartment
buildings to look at other uses because they cannot command the price as a residential
property.
Those are my thoughts, and that's why I thought that it was appropriate to look at General
Commercial. Maybe we need to amend the Zoning Code so that General Commercial doesn't
say intended for a principle, downtown area, and just say maybe that it's intended for high
density urban areas so that there's a little more flexibility.
And as you can tell from the minutes, that I have, and I'll put this on the record, I have a
Council that when it's up, when it's something that they're not real happy with, in some cases
I have Council Members who want to dot every "i," cross every "t," and have every public
hearing in the world. But when it's something that they want to do, they are perfectly willing
to say, oh, we don't need to send it back to the Planning Commission because we're the final
arbiters anyway. And I want to commend the property owner because there were the votes to
pass this as Neighborhood Commercial on the Council and not send it back. And it was after I
met with the property owner outside during a recess and they said, yeah, we agree to send it
down because we think that's the right thing to do; and they came back and on the record said,
yeah, we agree to have it sent down. Otherwise, I was faced with a precedent that I thought
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was bad and I thought it was also going to leave a cloud on the rezoning and leave the
property owners subject to legal challenge. But I was very concerned about the direction the
Council was taking because I was, in particular, disappointed, not so much with Mr. Chung,
but with other Members who have insisted that we follow every opportunity to have public
input and were perfectly willing to forego it in this case; and I just wanted to put that, and they
can read the minutes and my comments when it gets up to the Council. Thank you.
TANAKA: Well, we thank you for that, because we know what the rule states.
LEITHEAD-TODD: Yes.
TANAKA: And we have been there. We have Council Members in our
Commission meetings that are asking us to continue because of lack of public opportunities,
and when we were reading the minutes, we thought, oh, my goodness.
LEITHEAD-TODD: Yeah and, in particular, I'm going to even say his name, I was
particularly disappointed with Mr. Tyler. Because Mr. Tyler is the one that comes down to
the Planning Commission and constantly talks about public input, but he was proceeding to
read the Code and the Charter to say that we did not have to refer it back to you and give you
and the public an additional opportunity. And I was very disappointed in that because on other
occasions I have Council Members who use every rule that they have available to extend the
process and prolong it. So, anyway, that's my personal, you know, beef that I had up there.
And I didn't want to make more work for you folks, but I did think it was the proper thing to
send it back down.
TANAKA: Thank you for standing your ground and doing that which is right.
LEITHEAD-TODD: And I want to commend
MOSHER: Right.
LEITHEAD-TODD: The property owner for doing what was right because the votes were
there to pass it at the Council without sending it back down to you.
TANAKA: I have one question for you. Let's get back to the General Plan, because
I think it's an important document. How much weight do you think, I know the answer for
myself, but I want to hear it from you so the others can also, how much weight does that carry
when we're looking at these planning and land use issues?
LEITHEAD-TODD: I think it carries a lot of weight, and you have aCouncil I think
there's been a, I can't speak to prior Councils really. But the Council, the type of individuals
that I've seen elected to office now are much more concerned about compliance with the
General Plan, and, generally, unwilling to deviate from it, with one exception that I can think
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of. But I think they were thinking in that case that the General Plan hadn't caught up to what
was happening.
I think when it comes to you that what you need to be doing is maybe not looking at just 10
years but because we have to live with this document for the next 10 years, you really need to
be looking at what your vision for 20 and 30 years is. So if your vision 30 years is this, what
do you need to set in place in the next 10 years to accomplish that vision. And the reason I
say that is we're looking at the Mohouli Extension and we're looking at the Puainako
Extension. We're looking at roads that Ray Suefuji planned 30 years ago; and we're only
starting to implement that now. But we're able to implement it because 30 years ago
somebody had vision and said we need this corridor here, the city is going to grow in a
particular direction. And, in fact, if we had listened to Mr. Suefuji we wouldn't have the
substandard subdivisions in Puna which he warned us were going to become a headache. And
so what I'd say is yes, it's for 10 years; but when it comes to you be thinking 30 and 40 years
in terms of how you provide input to it, what kind of a community do you want to leave to
your children and grandchildren. Because the reality is, is that a lot of times when you put
plans in place, it really isn't something that's going to happen in the next 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 years.
What you're really trying to figure out is what kind of a community you want to retire in, if,
you know, you're in your 30s or 40s. If you're a little bit older, it's what you want to leave to
your children.
And in my case I guess cause my children are getting a little bit older it's a community that I
want them to be able to come home and work in. Cause, otherwise, if my kids all lived on the
mainland, I'm packing up cause that's where the grandchildren are going to be. And as much
as I love Hawaii, I'm going to move where the grandchildren are. And so I would dearly love
for us to have a community where there are jobs that they can come home to so that I don't
have to move. Because what I perceive occurring is if we don't provide room for growth and
economic development, Hawaii, and this island in particular, will be nothing but gentlemen
farms. It will be people who made their money some place else, sold their business or they're
conducting their business long distance or they're living off of a trust fund or investments; and
they're coming here because this is a great place to live. But everybody else is going to have
to move elsewhere because there won't be jobs, other than service jobs, maybe, you know,
cutting somebody's grass on their 10-acre gentleman farm. And so that has to be part of the
plan.
I recognize that people don't want us to look like Oahu. But you have to remember that Oahu
can fit into Puna, so there's lots of room for growth. It's a question of where you want that
growth to occur and what kinds of growth you want to encourage. You want livable
communities, you want to try and encourage sustainable businesses here. Thanks.
TANAKA: Thank you.
MOSHER: I have a
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TANAKA: Commissioner Mosher?
MOSHER: I have a question. When the University finally starts coming in rezoning
for their future plans
LEITHEAD-TODD: I don't know that they do because it's State land.
MOSHER: Okay, that would Do they have to come in to us?
LEITHEAD-TODD: They don't, State land, the And plus it's University, they basically
can do whatever the heck they want and not come in to us at all.
MOSHER: For Pizza Huts or whatever they want to do?
LEITHEAD-TODD: They can exempt themselves.
MOSHER: That's what I thought.
LEITHEAD-TODD: As long as it's on University property or on State land. You know, it, I
don't recall them coming in for zoning on the Research Park or any of that stuff, none of that.
It's kind of like Hawaiian Homes in a way, you know. And it's like the prison, if they build
the prison on State land, they don'[ come and knock on our door at all.
MOSHER: Okay, thank you.
TANAKA: Okay, thank you very much for being here, and for your comments.
Let's get back to the main issue. We'll call the applicant and its representative forward again
for any last comments. Is there anyone else in the public that would like to testify on this
agenda item?
Regarding the proposed amendments that we don't know if that will be made into a motion
yet, but any, I think we're squared away on everything else. Any objections to that regarding
the channelization, the wording being moved to "if required"?
KOYAMA: We have no objections.
TANAKA: Okay.
MOSHER: I have one question, last question. Is your offer contingent upon
neighborhood commercial, neighborhood commercial or general commercial, or it's just a
change to a commercial?
KOYAMA: Yes.
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MOSHER: Okay.
TANAKA: Okay, and the application before us is for a CN, yeah?
TSUKAZAKI: Yes.
TANAKA: Commissioner Baker?
BAKER: Mr. Chairman, in hearing no further discussion, I would like to make a
motion that we make a favorable recommendation for the change of zoning for REZ 99-10
with the amended conditions, on D as stated that we would move that channelization down to
the other sentence.
TANAKA: Okay. Do we have a second?
GIFFIN: Isecond.
TANAKA: We have a motion by Commissioner Baker and a second by
Commissioner Giffin that we send a favorable recommendation to the County Council on
Change of zone Application REZ 99-010, this is a County Council initiated Bill No. 106,
Draft 4, Akana Trust, for the reasons and with the conditions and the insertion of the new
Conditions D and E as proposed by the applicant, with amendments to Condition D that on the
second sentence it would start off with "Channelization improvements, street lights, signs and
markings shall be installed, if required," etc., etc. Any discussions? Commissioner Souza?
SOUZA: I have a question for staff. Is there any other zoning designation that
can be applied other than neighborhood commercial for, to allow an attorney's office there?
FUJIMOTO: Yes. Actually, you can go, well, to a CG and also to an RS
SOUZA: What is CG?
FUJIMOTO: General commercial.
SOUZA: Oh, that's up
FUJIMOTO: Right, it's as a higher use.
SOUZA: And the other one?
FUJIMOTO: CN, which is what they're requesting. Offices are allowed in that, and
RS.
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SOUZA: And what was the
FUJIMOTO: RS, residential.
SOUZA: But they could not put an office if it's an RS, huh? Can they put a
FUJIMOTO: Oh, not for a law office, no. No, I'm sorry, no, no, no. I'm sorry,
yeah.
SOUZA: So in order to establish an office as they plan it would either have to be
neighborhood commercial or general commercial?
FUJIMOTO: General commercial, yes; more appropriately in a CN, neighborhood.
SOUZA: Yeah. Mr. Chairman, if We didn't close. Can I ask Mr. Tsukazaki
something?
TANAKA: Sure.
SOUZA: You mentioned, I'm kind of confused here. You mentioned that if you
purchased this property you're just going to maintain the house for your office. But you have
no plans to put any other kind of commercial activity on the lot?
TSUKAZAHI: We don't currently have any plans to build any buildings or put any
other commercial uses.
SOUZA: So, can you give a guesstimate if you're going to invest all the money
remodelling the house for an office at least how many years you'd be there, or is that an
impossible question?
TSUKAZAHI: Well
MOSHER: He's offered a million dollars
TSUKAZAHI: I'm going to have to be there a long time to, because my kids are at the
age where if they should go to college or stay in college Ihave along-term investment that I
have to pay off. So I'll be working a long time.
SOUZA: Would, let me ask you, would there be room, I don't know who can
answer this, maybe, would there be room to establish any kind of commercial activity on that
particular lot if you don't tear down the house or would that be practically impossible? In
other word, if you can maintain the house but somewhere along the line they said let's put a
storefront up here, then you're not, you know, you're taking away from what a lot of people
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said to maintain the beauty of the place. Where I'm coming from is I have no objection,
really, if we know it's going to be a lawyer's office because it's going to be very minimum,
going to look like what we have there, the land is going to be the same. I love it, I love it that
somebody is going to do that. But I'm, I'm
BAKER: Doubtful?
SOUZA: I'm not, well, doubtful, yeah. But to me if you decide two years from
now, hey, let's put a storefront in front, then, you know, what good is the original concept of
that property.
TSUKAZAKI: Commissioner Souza, I think, you know, I'd sure like to give you the
answer that you want to hear, but I really think that the best thing that I can say right now is
although you know what our intentions are and you know what our intentions in terms of
staying and keeping [he property the way it is for as long as we work, I really think that the
Commission should look at this in terms of the law, the land use land, which is the General
Plan which is guiding all your decisions on rezoning. Because as much as I would like to
assure you of certain things today there's nothing that I can really do to guarantee what might
happen three years from now, five years from now. We've had a recent restructuring in our
firm just recently that I don't think we could see coming down the line when, if you look back
three years. So the best thing to do is to, again, look at this property, where it's situated, look
what the General Plan says, you know, bring all your separate experiences to the table here,
try to make a decision on what you think is appropriate in terms of this rezoning. And I think,
because then if something happens, whether it's 5 or 10 or 15 years down the road, you know,
it won't just be based on a representation I made and where I could not foresee certain
circumstances happening that might change what happens. So I can only tell you what we plan
right now and what we hope to be doing.
There's a financial side of it, too, you know. One reason why we're here today seeking the
changes to the conditions is because like anybody who has to purchase property and renovate it
or build something, there is a limit to what we can afford. So if the improvements [hat are
required in the rezoning are so burdensome we wouldn't be able to buy the property basically.
So there's that side that, you know, I'm asking you to weigh as well.
TANAKA: Any further discussion before I call for the roll call?
MOSHER: I just wanted to say I'm going to vote in favor of the motion, but not
because the Council sent this back to us. Had CN been noted at the original time of
application, I would have voted for CN, but I didn't even go beyond and look into another
type of zoning. But I just want the Council to know that it was not because of them sending it
back to us.
TANAKA: Okay. Commissioner Souza?
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SOUZA: Mr. Chairman, I'll be voting for the motion because I feel that at this
point what Mr. Tsukazaki, and I appreciated his honesty where he said vote on the Zoning
Code and not what going there. On the other hand, because of his honesty I feel that we can
be comfortable in seeing that place unaltered for many years; and that if Mr. Tsukazaki's firm
does not buy that, that could be sold to, the Council already had the votes, that could be sold
to somebody else who would put up a commercial building. So at this point, taking all the
circumstances, I rather see the old house there, well manicured like I'm sure you folks will,
than commercial activity right away.
TANAKA: Any further discussions? Okay, I had one last comment. I just wanted
to thank the applicant. As I was looking at the background report, the applicant came before
us on June 18th, and now we're into October already, so a lot of time has passed. He has
gone up to the County Council with CG, he has had to come back, remanded it back to us and
going back another venue, which is CN. So I appreciate, as was testified by Councilwoman
Leithead-Todd, that you had agreed to do which is right. I would be supporting this motion
also but with reservations. And the only reservation that I had is that I strongly feel like
Councilwoman Leithead-Todd had mentioned that the General Plan is really our guide. And
when I asked her how much weight do we put onto the General Plan, I think we put a lot of
weight, you know, on that guide because it was the planning guide that has been used and is
still being used today. And if we have disagreements with the General Plan then the avenue to
address those disagreements or amendments or revisions is during the General Plan
Amendments which will be coming up. I would hope that the Department can get that started
before December because I sure have some comments, too, that I would like to provide; and,
if not, if it goes into the year 2000 then I certainly will be a part of that as a public participant.
But, anyway, thank you for your patience and for going the proper route. And I, again, I was
in support of the CG just because the General Plan allows for that and the entire area is
designated as high density. Okay, roll call.
FUJIMOTO: Commissioner Baker?
BAKER: Aye.
FUJIMOTO: Commissioner Giffin?
GIFFIN: Aye.
FUJIMOTO: Commissioner Mosher?
MOSHER: Aye.
FUJIMOTO: Commissioner Souza?
SOUZA: Aye.
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FUJIMOTO: Commissioner Togashi?
TOGASHI: Aye.
FUJIMOTO: Mr. Chairman?
TANAI{.A: Aye.
FUJIMOTO: Mr. Chairman, there are six ayes. Motion carried.
TANAKA: Thank you. We'll notify you in writing of today's result.
TSUKAZAHI: Thank you very much.
The discussion ended at 10:57 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon M. Nomura, Secretary
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COUNTY OF HAWAII PLANNING DEPARTMENT
AMENDED BACKGROUND REPORT
AKANA TRUST
COUNTY COUNCIL INITIATED BILL NO. 106, Draft 4
CHANGE OF ZONE APPLICATION tREZ 99-0101
The COUNTY COUNCIL INITIATED BILL NO. 106, Draft 4 relating to a request
filed by AKANA TRUST for a Change of Zone by changing the district classification from
Single Family Residential (RS-10) to General Commercial (CN-20) for`approximately 41,010
square feet of land. The original request was from Single Family Residential (RS-10) to
General Commercial (CG-20). The property is located at the southwest corner of the Kinoole
Street and Lanikaula Street intersection, Waiakea Houselots Second Series, Waiakea, South
Hilo, Hawaii, TMK: 2-2-25:24.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
1. June 18, 1999: Public Hearing held in which the Planning Commission voted to send
"No Recommendation" to the County Council.
2. September 9, 1999: The County Council at its meeting amended Bill 106, Draft 2 to
Bill 106, Draft 4, which amended the bill from General Commercial (CG-20) to
Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20).
3. September 10, 1999: By letter, the County Council referred Bill No. 106, Draft 4,
and transcripts of the discussion on September 9, 1999 to the Planning Commission for
proper review and reconsideration.
COUNTY COUNCIL INITIATED REQUEST
4. Request: The County Council amended Bill No. 106, Draft 2 from General
Commercial (CG-20) to Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20). This was due to the
general sentiment of the Council that CN-20 was a more appropriate designation for the
subject property, as the General Commercial designation seemed to indicate that the
parcel be located in either the Downtown area or a major shopping area, which the
parcel is not located in. The amended request was forwarded to the Planning
Commission for reconsideration. With agreement of the applicant's agent, Glen
Koyama, the County Council voted to send the amendment back to the Planning
Commission for reconsideration.
5. Supportive Information: (See Exhibit A -Council transmittal letter dated September
10, 1999 forwarding Bill No. 104, Draft 4, Verbatim Transcripts of September 9, 1999
Council Meeting and July 28, 1999 Memo with Bill No. 104,
Draft 2.
STATE AND COUNTY PLANS
6. Zoning: (See Exhibit B -Permitted Uses within the General Commercial (CG) and
Neighborhood Commercial (CN) Districts)
ADDITIONAL AGENCIES' COMMENTS
7. Police Department (September 20, 1999 Memo):
"Staff has reviewed the above-referenced change of zone application and has no
comments or objections to offer at this time."
8. Department of Public Works (September 16, 1999 Memo):
"We have reviewed the subject request and our comments in our memorandum dated
April 13, 1999 are still applicable.
Should there be any questions concerning this matter, please feel free to contact Casey
Yanagihara in our Engineering Division at Ext. 8327."
9. Department of Health (September 22, 1999 Memo):
"The Department of Health does not have any objections to the proposed change in
land uses. However, existing or planned land use activities adjacent to the proposed
neighborhood commercial should be compatible with a residential neighborhood."
10. State Department of Transportation-Honolulu (September 27, 1999 Letter):
"Thank you for your letter of September 15, 1999, transmitting the subject zone change
application for our review and comments.
The proposed zone change (residential-RS-10 to commercial-CN-20) will not adversely
impact our State highway facilities."
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11. State Land Use Commission (September 21, 1999 Letter):
"We have reviewed the County Council initiated Bill No. 106 Draft 4 for the subject
application transmitted by your memorandum dated September 15, 1999, and have no
further comments to add to our previous comments dated April 14, 1999, regarding
this matter.
We appreciate the opportunity to comment on the subject matter.
Should you have any questions, please feel free to call me or Bert Saruwatari of our
office at 587-3822."
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JAMES Y. ARAKAKI ~,~"`•~"••"•!w, AARON S.Y. CHUNG
C'lrgirnrgn rF Presiding Q(ficer d6i~. BOBBY JEAN LEITHEAD-TODD
• LENINGRAD ELARIONOFF
AL SMITH JULIE JACOBSON
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J. CURTIS TYLER, III
DOMINIC YAGONG
COUNTY COUNCIL
County ojHawai "i
Hawaii County Building
15 Aupuni Street
Hilo. Hawni'i 96710
September 10, 1999 Re: Comm. 375.Oa1
TO: Virginia Goldstein, Director
Planning Department
SUBJ: Bill 106, Dr. 4: Akana Trust, applicant -Amends Section 25-8-33 (City of
Hilo Zone Map), Article 8, Chapter 25 (Zoning Code) of the Hawaii
County Code, by changing the district classification from Single Family
Residential (RS-10) to Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20) at Waiakea,
South Hilo, Hawaii, covered by Tax Map Key 2-2-25:24
The Hawaii County Council at its meeting held Thursday, September 9, 1999, amended
Bill 106, Draft 2 to Bill 106, Draft 4, which changed the district classification from the General
Commercial designation to Neighborhood Commercial.
By this change, tl:e Council referred the matter to the Planning Commission for proper review
and reconsideration.
For your information, Bill ] 06, Draft 4 and the transcripts of the discussion at the
September 9, 1999 are included. Should you have further questions, please contact my office at
your earliest convenience.
Ja es . Arakaki
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Mayor Yamashiro
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BILL NO
ORDINANCE NO.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO ZONE MAP),
ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING CODE) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE, BY
CHANGING THE DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
(RS-10) TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL (CN-20) AT WAIAKEA, SOUTH HILO,
HAWAII, COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY 2-2-25:24.
BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAII:
SECTION 1. Section 25-8-33, Article 8, Chapter 25 (Zoning Code) of the Hawaii
County Code, is amended to change the district classification of property described hereinafter as
follows:
The district classification of the following area situated at Waiakea, South Hilo,
Hawaii, shall be Neighborhood Commercial (CN-20):
Beginning at the west corner of this pazcel of land, on the southeasterly side of Lanikaula
Street, the coordinates of said point of beginning referred to Government Survey
Triangulation Station "HALAI" being 3,976.92 feet South and 6,594.90 feet East, thence
rurming by azimuths measured clockwise from True South:
1. 238° 10' 217.00 feet along the southeasterly side of
Lanikaula Street;
2. Thence along the south comer of the intersection of Lanikaula Street and Kinoole
Street, on a curve to the right with a radius
of 20.00 feet, the chord azimuth and distance
being: 283° 10' 28.28 feet;
3. 328° 10' 153.40 feet along the southwesterly side of Kinoole
Street;
4. 58° 10' 237.00 feet along Grant 9391;
5. 148° 10' 173.4.0 feet along 30-ft. Railroad Right-of--Way
(abandoned) to the point of beginning and
containing an area of 41,010 squaze feet.
All as shown on the map attached hereto, marked Exhibit "A" and by reference
made a part hereof.
SECTION 2. This change in district classification is conditioned upon the following:
A. The applicant, its successors or assigns shall be responsible for complying with all
of the stated conditions of approval.
B. The applicant shall submit the anticipated maximum daily water usage calculation
and the required water commitment payment to the Department of Water Supply
in accordance with its "Water Commitment Guidelines Policy" within ninety (90)
days from the date of Final Plan Approval.
C. Construction of the proposed development and related improvements within the
subject property shall be completed within five (5) yeazs from the effective date of
this ordinance. This time period shall include securing Final Plan Approval from
the Planning Director in accordance with the Zoning Code Sections 25-2-72 and
25-5-117 and the Planning Depaztment's Rule 17 (Landscaping Requirements) for
the commercial development within the subject property. Plans shall identify
structures, fire protection measures, landscaping and maintenance plan, paved and
striped pazking stalls and driveway and other improvements associated with the
proposed uses. Plans shall include landscaping along property boundaries for the
purpose of mitigating any potential adverse noise and visual impacts to
surrounding properties.
D. Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy, driveway access and
channelization improvements to the Lanikaula/Kinoole Street intersection and the
proposed driveways shall meet with the approval of the Department of Public
Works. Street lights, signs and mazkings shall be installed, if required, on
Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street meeting with the approval of the Department
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of Public Works.
E. Prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy for any development on the
subject property, the applicant shall provide improvements to the frontage of the
subject property along Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street consisting of, but not
limited to, commercial standazd sidewalks (sidewalks with no planter strips) along
the entire frontage of the subject property, meeting with the approval of the
Department of Public Works. Sidewalks and an accessible wheelchair ramp at the
comer of Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street shall be provided and meet with the
approval of the Commission on Persons with Disabilities and the Department of
Public Works.
F. A Solid Waste Management Plan shall be submitted for review and approval to
the Department of Public Works in conjunction with the submittal of plans for
Final Plan Approval.
G. Sewer line connections to the County sewer system shall be installed meeting with
the requirements of the Department of Public Works.
H. Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy for the proposed
development, the applicant shall submit a fmal written report to the Planning
Director stating that all conditions have been met.
I. Comply with all other applicable rules, regulations and requirements of the
affected agencies for the development of the subject property.
J. Should the Council adopt a Unified Impact Fee Ordinance setting forth criteria for
imposition of exactions or the assessment of impact fees, conditions included
herein shall be credited towazd~ the requirements of the Unified Impact Fee
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Ordinance.
K. An initial extension of time for the performance of conditions within the
ordinance may be granted by the Planning Director upon the following
circumstances:
I. The non-performance is the result of conditions that could not have been
foreseen or are beyond the control of the applicants, successors or assigns,
and that aze not the result of their fault or negligence.
2. Granting of the time extension would not be contrary to the General Plan
or Zoning Code.
3. Granting of the time extension would not be contrary to the original
reasons for the granting of the change of zone.
4. The time extension granted shall be for a period not to exceed the period
originally granted for performance (i.e., a condition to be performed within
one yeaz may be extended for up to one additional year.)
L. Should any of the conditions not be met or substantially complied with in a timely
fashion, the Director may initiate rezoning of the subject property to its original or
more appropriate designation.
SECTION 3. In the event that any portion of this ordinance is declazed invalid, such
invalidity shall not affect the other parts of this ordinance.
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SECTION 4. This ordinance shall take effect upon its approval.
INTR~ODnUCED BY:
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COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNTY OF HAWAII
Hilo, Hawaii
Date of Introduction:
Date of 1st Reading:
Date of 2nd Reading:
Effective Date:
REFERENCE: Comm. 375.004
APPROVED AS TO FORM AND LEGALITY
CORPORATION COUNSEL
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AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE
AMENDING SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO ZONE MAP) ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING
CODE) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE. BY CHANGING THE DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (RS-10) TO GENERAL- COMMERCIAL (CG-20) AT WAIAKEA.
SOUTH HILO, HAWAII. _-.•.r.~.~e-
PREPARED BY PLANNIND DEPARTMENT
COUNTY OF HAWAII
JUNE 10. 1999
TMK 2-2-25:24
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EXHIBIT ~Ar
IMMEDIATE VERBATIM TRANSCRIPTS
Hawaii County Council
Prepared for: Planning Commission (B. Hashimoto)
Council Meeting Date: Thursday, September 9, 1999
Date of Request: 9/9/99
Needed by: 9/10/99
Completed: 9/13199
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REGULAR SESSION
TWENTIETH SESSION
Hilo, Hawaii
Thursday, September 9, 1999
The Regular meeting of the County Council was called to order by Chairman and
Presiding Officer James Y. Arakaki, at 9:09 a.m. in the Councilroom, County Building,
25 Aupuni Street, Hilo.
ROLL CALL: Councilmember Aaron S.Y. Chung
(Arrived 10:03 a.m.)
Councilmember Leningrad Elarionoff
Councilmember Julie Jacobson
Councilmember Bobby Jean Leithead-Todd
Councilmember Nancy Pisicchio
Councilmember Al Smith
Councilmember J. Curtis Tyler, III
Councilmember Dominic Yagong
Council Chair James Y. Arakaki
ALSO PRESENT WERE: Harry Takahashi, Finance Director
Richard Wurdeman, Corporation Counse]
Glenn Taguchi, Mayor's Administrative Assistant
Jiro Sumada, Deputy Chief Engineer
Gerald Takase, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Alice Kawaha, Planner
AI Konishi, County C?erk
Connie Kiriu, Legislative Auditor
Alapaki Nahale-a, Fiscal Program Review Auditor
Barbara Hashimoto, Legislative Auditor Assistant
Walter Iida, Legislative Assistant
Donna Watanabe, Legislative Assistant
Jeanette Aiello, Council Assistant I
Hansrenda K.M. Dutro, Council Assistant II
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Hawaii County Council September 9, 1999
ORDINANCE A Bill for an Ordinance numbered 106, Draft 2, amends
BILL 106: Section 25-8-33 (City of Hilo Zone Map), Article 8, Chapter 25
(DRAFT 2) (Zoning Code) of the Hawaii County Code, by changing the
(C-375.00]) district classification from Single Family Residential (RS-10) to
General Commercial (CG-20) at Waiakea, South Hilo, Hawaii,
covered by Tax Map Key 2-2-25:24, Akana Trust, applicant,
introduced by Ms. Leithead-Todd on August 25, 1999; was presented
for second and final reading.
Ms. Leithead-Todd moved for the passage of Bill 106,
Draft 2, on second and final reading. Seconded by
Mr. Smith.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Tyler.
MR. TYLER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We had quite a lively and
lengthy discussion at the first reading regarding this bill and not only
on the rezoning itself, but the designation, in terms of General
Commercial versus Neighborhood Commercial, and there seemed to
be some sentiment on the part of, at least a number of the
councilmembers that we ought to look at that.
There was some discussion about how the bill might change, even
though it's in the title, etc., and I'd like to hear from some members on
the East side, who are much closer to this than I, regarding any further
investigation or any research that was done regarding this. Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: This is Mr. Chung's area, so I'll ask Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, I haven't done
any additional research on the subject, but it was my impression that
when we last discussed this matter, we were going to change the
designation from what exists right now, or what is being requested--
the general commercial designation, to a, I think it's called, a
Neighborhood Commercial designation, which would be, in my
estimation, a more appropriate one.
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Hawaii County Council September 9, 1999
The General Commercial zoning, by its own definition, seems to
indicate that it has to either be--this parcel has to be located in either
the Downtown area or the major shopping area, which this obviously
is not located, in either of those two types of location. Therefore, I
think it's totally inappropriate to approve something that's asking for a
General Commercial designation.
You know, I'm in favor of the rezoning if it's a Neighborhood
Commercial, I'll supporC it. I just want the proper designation. I
cannot, in good conscience, approve the rezoning for General
Commercial.
CHR. ARAKAKI: You'd like to defer it? You want to defer it?
MR. CHUNG: Well, I thought we were going to have it all corrected
by this reading.
CHR. ARAKAKI: It hasn't, so--.
MR. CHUNG: Right.
CHR. ARAKAKI: We'll have Mr. Yagong speak first.
MR. YAGONG: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to hear--is
the applicant here? I'd like to hear your comments regarding
Mr. Chung's comments. Is there any response to that?
(At this time, the representative for Akana Trust, Glenn
Koyama, came forward to address the Members of the
Council.)
MR. KOYAMA: I guess the last time I was in this position, so I'll
assume the same position. The last time, I guess I still had my frog
voice, and it's been carrying over for six weeks now, so I don't know
what's the deal.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Could you please identify yourself?
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MR. KOYAMA: My name is Glenn Koyama. I'm here representing
the owner, the Akana Trust. As Councilman Chung indicated, the
intent of the General Commercial is to establish a central shopping or a
principle downtown area for a city or a region, which is stated in the
zoning ordinance. Several things, actually, the reason why the
applicant has gone in with General Commercial is, first of all, the area
is, I guess, within a block or two, has a number of general commercial
zoned properties. There are a number, in fact, just one block away
from the area, from the property. The General Plan indicates that this
property is for High Density Urban development, which a General
Commercial is consistent with.
Thirdly, the Planning Department passed on a favorable
recommendation on the general commercial zoning request, and I
think, most of all, when we went before the public at the public
hearings, there was no, except maybe one, no objections to the
proposed project, which included the neighborhood area which we had
sent notices out, and of course, as you know, public notices in the
newspaper.
So we feel that as far as the project goes, the owner feels that this is
appropriate zoning for his property. In terms of Councilman Chung's
reference to the intent of the General Commercial district, the--we
believe that a General Commercial district designation for this parcel
represents a component of the Hilo town, which we believe is the
General Commercial designation for this region.
It's not a commercial center in itself, but a component of the larger
Hilo town area, and that's how we'd like to address that issue. Thank
you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Yagong, you have the floor.
MR. YAGONG: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Koyama, thank you.
You mentioned that there's several other businesses within a block or
two that are zoned General Commercial? Could you point those
businesses out to us?
MR. KOYAMA: There are, I believe, a number of commercial
establishments on Kilauea Avenue.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Are you referring to Tykes, Scruffles and all that?
That complex?
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MR. KOYAMA: There's restaurants, that's correct. Let me see if I
have my---.
CHR. ARAKAKI: On Kilauea Avenue?
MR. KOYAMA: On Kilauea Avenue, that's correct.
MR. YAGONG: This property is on Kinoole (Street), is that correct?
CHR. ARAKAKI: That's right.
MR. YAGONG: Kinoole (Street), Lanikaula (Street)?
CHR. ARAKAKI: That's right.
MR. KOYAMA: That's correct.
MR. YAGONG: Mr. Koyama, as you search for that, it seems to me
that there is general support for rezoning. The question is whether it'd
be General Commercial or Neighborhood Commercial. As far as the
owner, that you represent, is it your sense that if we do change it to
Neighborhood Commercial that you would ask to pull this application,
or, in other words, are you adverse to changing it to Neighborhood
Commercial?
MR. KOYAMA: The owner has no objection to going to
Neighborhood Commercial, but he just feels that he's invested---
MR. YAGONG: You'd prefer the General?
MR. KOYAMA: Yes. Obviously, he's invested a lot in this project
and for him to go back to the Planning Commission would be a step
backwards.
MR. YAGONG: That was my next question, Mr. Chairman.
Regarding that, if we do have a change, would it have to go back to the
process or could that just be an amendment at this level?
CHR. ARAKAKI: I would ask Ms. Leithead-Todd on that.
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MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: This is one in which, I guess, there's some
disagreements between us. I believe that if, one, you were changing
not only the title but the general purpose of the bill, and the purpose of
the bill, as I view it, was to change it to General Commercial, which is
a CG-20. I view CN, the Neighborhood Commercial as a different
purpose. I believe Mr. Chung says that he doesn't view it as a
different purpose because he sees the purpose of the bill is to rezone it
to a commercial property, but I believe that there is a distinct
difference in the Hawaii County Code between Neighborhood
Commercial and General Commercial.
So at the very minimum, if such an amendment, if such an amendment
would be made, you would definitely have to hold it over to provide
public notice and an opportunity to comment.
CHR. ARAKAKI: So I guess the question was, does it need to go
back to the Planning Commission?
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: I believe that it does.
MR. YAGONG: So, Mr. Koyama, you wouldn't, or the applicant
would not be adverse to Neighborhood Commercial, as long as it can
be dealt with here at the Council, is that correct?
MR. KOYAMA: That's correct.
MR. YAGONG: So maybe we should get--would the Planning
Committee be able to give us a, the Planning Department, rather, give
us a read on this, or is it more the Corporation Counsel that we should
ask?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Maybe we should have Corporation Counsel. Is
Corporation Counsel here? Yes, Corporation Counsel,
Mr. Wurdeman.
MR. YAGONG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Or would you want to pass it off to the Planning
Department?
(At this time, Corporation Counsel Richard Wurdeman
came forward to address the Members of the Council.)
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POINT OF MR. CHUNG: Mr. Chairman, just as a point of personal privilege.
PRIVILEGE:
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes, Mr. Chung?
MR. CHUNG: Could we allow all of the remaining speakers to speak,
because I think Mr. Wurdeman just came in here cold, really. I don't
know if he's here for this issue. So, you know, if we could just allow
him to---
MR. WURDEMAN: Well actually I'm here for the sewer problem.
CHR. ARAKAKI: So you wouldn't be ready to do this?
MR. CHUNG: Have a little bit more time to digest, because I think
this is a pretty--
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yeah, pretty heavy.
MR. CHUNG: Considerable issue.
MR. YAGONG: I have no problem with that, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. We'll come back to you, though,
Mr. Wurdeman, on that question.
MR. YAGONG: I'll yield the floor, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Tyler, before I call Mr. Chung.
MR. TYLER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning,
Mr. Koyama and thank you for coming here. Ms. Kawaha, are you
about to leave? Can I just have you come forward for one second?
Just a real quick question?
(At this time, Planner Alice Kawaha came forward to
address the Members of the Council.)
MR. TYLER: Mr. Koyama represented that the Planning Department
recommended approval to this, that there was no public objections, but
isn't it a fact that the applicant applied for this designation?
MS. KAWAHA: Yes, yes. The applicant did apply for General
Commercial.
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MR. TYLER: Isn't it then the practice of the Planning Department
that, for the most part, these kinds, do you recommend approval for
most of these applications, on the basis of the application, assuming
it's not breaking any laws?
MS. KAWAHA: Yes, because we have to look at the criteria again
and make it our recommendation.
MR. TYLER: Isn't it true that the Planning Department, excuse me,
the Planning Commission, with respect to any action it would be
taking, is purely advisory, with respect to this? Is it not?
MS. KAWAHA: Advisory from whom?
MR. TYLER: Advisory to the Council? They have no final decision
making--.
MS. KAWAHA: Right, they are advisory to the Council.
MR. TYLER: With respect to rezoning, right?
MS. KAWAHA: Right. So it is the prerogative of the Council to do
what it pleases, as long as it's within the County Code, and we have a
majority vote, isn't that correct?
CHR. ARAKAKI: I think that's a procedural question.
MS. KAWAHA: It's just a procedural that I don't, yes.
MR. TYLER: Okay, I'm Sony.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Maybe we should ask that to Mr. Wurdeman.
MR. TYLER: I'm asking an illegal question, I'm sorry, I didn't mean
to put you on that, but I just wanted to establish for the record that I
believe the reason that the Planning Department, and the Planning
Commission recommends approval for this is because that's what was
applied for.
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I daresay that unless I had brought up this matter, it probably never
would've come up, and the fact that the Public did not respond to
whether it should be General Commercial or Neighborhood
Commercial, as far as I'm concerned, is a moot point, because the
public was never given that opportunity. The public does not have a
copy of the Hawaii County Code; the public generally doesn't know
enough. I daresay, probably most of us here wouldn't have even
thought about it. I just happened to stumble upon it because I was
looking at sidewalks.
So it would seem to me, Mr. Chairman, since the applicant is in
agreement with the change to Neighborhood Commercial, Mr. Chung,
in whose district this is located, says he won't vote for it unless it is
that, and number three, that this Body is the final decision-making
body, and that the Planning Commission is only advisory, and we have
already gone through the public hearing and, number four, since
Ms. Leithead-Todd says we would have to hold it over, which I agree
with completely, Mr. Koyama, do you and the applicant have any
objection to holding this over for one more reading?
MR. KOYAMA: No.
MR. TYLER: I mean you'd rather have that than have it not voted,
right?
MR. KOYAMA: Not going back, correct.
MR. TYLER: No, I'm not advocating it for going back to the
Planning Committee, because I believe we're the final decision makers
on this and we can check with Corporation Counsel. But,
Mr. Chairman, that's my position, with respect to this. Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, I'll have Mr. Chung have his say.
Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I don't want
anyone to leave with the impression that I'm trying to find a legal
technicality or a, yeah, a legal technicality, as a basis for holding this
project up, because, as I stated earlier, you know, although I have
some sentimental concerns, you know,l kind of grew up with those
properties around there, beautiful property. You know, I'm not against
allowing a land owner to make use of his property to its best and
fullest use. So, you know, I'd be in favor of it and I'm in favor of the
rezoning to a commercial designation.
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I just feel very strongly that a designation being as for here, is not the
correct designation, and I'm going to read again. I know I did this
before, but I'm going to read it again. The CG, General Commercial
district, which is being asked for here applies to "an area suitable for
commercial uses and services on a broad basis to serve as the central
shopping or principle downtown area for a city or region," and I think
anybody who's familiar with that area or what it's proposed to be,
even in the very near future, would agree that it doesn't fit into these
categories.
Now I grant you that there are some, probably--I don't really know for
a fact, but there are some CG zoned properties more, I would guess, by
the Hilo Shopping Center area, which is about two blocks away from
the subject property, but a big two blocks away. I mean it's quite
removed from that azea.
As Ms. Leithead-Todd pointed out, there is a distinct, well, she talked
about it in a different context, but she said that there's a distinct
difference between the Neighborhood Commercial and the General
Commercial. If we were to approve this rezoning as is, that means
we're making a broad policy statement as to where we want the
direction of the development, commercial development, to go.
We're saying that that area where you want rezoned is now either
going to be the downtown area or the principle shopping center area
for the Hilo and I don't think that's right.
I can see where it's right around by the Hilo Shopping Center. I have
to, I'm just going to guess, but you have Hilo Motors that's probably a
CG; the Hilo Shopping Center, and probably all of those other
commercial properties immediately surrounding that area, HELCO and
maybe even the 7-Eleven, but, you know, there is quite a big distance
between that area and the area that we're talking about, even if it is
two blocks.
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So, by approving the CG today, we're making, I believe, a broad
policy zoning statement, and I don't think that that's the direction that
we want to be going, yet. It may come about maybe 20 years from
now, you know, when the University of Hawaii is fully developed,
maybe, but I think right now is not the time. Based on everything that
you have told us, what you are actually looking for is the
neighborhood designation, because when we talked about the sidewalk
issue, you said that it would probably keep with the flavor of the
neighborhood, I think you used that.
But if we kept the current sidewalks--now wasn't that the thrust of
your argument? That you wanted to keep with the neighborhood
flavor? So if that's the case, I think it would be more appropriate if
you went with the Neighborhood designation, which reads, "The CN
district applies to strategically located centers suitable for commercial
activities which shall be of such size and shape as will accommodate a
compact shopping center which supplies goods and services to a
residential or working population on a frequent need or convenience
basis," and based on what you've told me, it's basically to service the
University. So it would kind of fit under this category, I think, more
appropriately.
But now this is where I differ with Ms. Leithead-Todd. I believe that
we can change the title of this bill and whatever is necessary within the
text of it, hold it over for one more reading here at the Council without
the necessity of it going back to the Planning Commission, and that's
where I differ from Ms. Leithead-Todd because I still believe it is the
commercial rezoning, and almost the entire record seems to indicate a
Neighborhood Commercial type of designation, so, thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. Ms. Pisicchio.
MS. PISICCHIO: Thank you, Chairman. Mr. Chung covered several
of my points, but I'd like to add that I agree completely with
everything you said. I drove around in that area again last night with
this in mind, and I agree completely a Neighborhood Commercial
designation would be much more appropriate. I think that it might be
safe to guess that when the applicant went in originally for their
zoning, they looked around and the closest thing was already
commercial designation for, or rather, the Neighborhood Commercial,
and so they didn't think about it, they just did it.
So I think the only question now probably is the legal question
regarding the Sunshine Law and the title. Thank you.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Elarionoff.
MR. ELARIONOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Since we're placing
bets, if we were to change this from Neighborhood Commercial to
General Commercial, I would side with Ms. Leithead-Todd. But
because we're going from General Commercial to Neighborhood
Commercial, I would side with Mr. Chung. Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Ms. Leithead-Todd.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: I guess I'll have to hear from
Mr. Wurdeman, but, again, I refer you, and I guess Mr. Wurdeman
specifically, to Page 4 of the Charter, Section 3-10(d), which says, "a
bill shall not be amended to change its original purpose," and I
contend that the original purpose of this bill was to amend the zoning
to General Commercial.
So an amendment to Neighborhood Commercial, I believe is changing
the purpose of the bill and that's incompatible with the Charter.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Let's call Mr. Wurdeman. Are you ready,
Mr. Wurdeman?
(At this time, Corporation Counsel Richard Wurdeman
came forwazd to address the Members of the Council.)
MR. WURDEMAN: I agree with everybody! I agree with
Mr. Chung, Ms. Leithead-Todd--I agree with everybody!
CHR. ARAKAKI: You know what, I'm going to ]et Mr. Yagong have
the privilege of asking you and he has the floor.
MR. YAGONG: That's what my light--I wanted the referee to come
in and settle this thing. Mr. Wurdeman.
MR. WURDEMAN: Okay. Well, generally I agree with
Ms. Leithead-Todd, what she just said. I'd like to elaborate a little bit.
There is a case from Honolulu some years ago that said that the title of
a bill should allow someone of reasonable intelligence to know what
the bill is about, and I think when you make a change of the nature that
has been proposed, you are, you need to change the title and that
would require a new bill to go to CN, which means it would have to go
through the process. Does that answer your question?
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CHR. ARAKAKI: So your interpretation is it has to go back to the
Planning Commission?
MR. WURDEMAN: If you're going to go to CN.
CHR. ARAKAKI: To CN--you start the process all over?
MR. WURDEMAN: With a new bill.
CHR. ARAKAKI: We take it from ahigher--.
MR. WURDEMAN: ACouncil-initiated bill.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, inegardless ifwe're going from a higher
designation to one below.
MR. WURDEMAN: Right, because the title specifically says CG-20.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Tyler, you want to follow that line of
questioning?
MR. TYLER: Yes, I just have a quick question. So in that regard,
Mr. Wurdeman, if this bill were filed, the motion was made and
passed, and the bill were filed and in two weeks we had a new bill that
had everything identical except neighborhood--General Commercial
was changed to Neighborhood Commercial, and Ms. Leithead-Todd
waived it out of her committee and we brought it to the full Council,
could we, in two consecutive sessions, assuming everything else
remains unchanged, pass that bill?
MR. WURDEMAN: Anew bill would have to go to the Commission.
MR. TYLER: Why?
MR. WURDEMAN: Because the ordinance requires it.
MR. TYLER: But they're advisory-only.
MR. WURDEMAN: Nevertheless, there's an ordinance that's part of
the Zoning Code that it has to go to the Commission.
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MR. TYLER: Okay, so this section of the Charter that Ms. Leithead-
Todd referred to with respect to the purpose of the bill, it shall not be
changed, that there's a second sentence in that Section (d), as I'm sure
you'll recall, which says, "an amended bill shall upon aone-third vote
of the entire membership be laid over for at least one week before final
reading." So, the first sentence said that a bill shall not be amended to
change its original purpose.
MR. WURDEMAN: And the original purpose is reflected in the title,
or should be.
MR. TYLER: Okay. Well, I think, you know, Mr. Chung has stated
and I have stated that we regard the purpose as being moving from a
residential to a commercial use. The fact that it's between a
Neighborhood and a General Commercial--is that also part of the
purpose? I mean---.
MR. WURDEMAN: Well, is that what the title said, then that would
be the purpose. The purpose is what the title says. The title is
required by the Charter to reflect the purpose of the bill.
MR. TYLER: Okay, so what would happen if this Council
disregarded your opinion and, I want to, because it is your opinion,
and I want to hear this and I want to run this one through, and the
majority of the Council, approved an amendment to Neighborhood
Commercial from General Commercial. What is the scenario that
could occur? I mean--.
MR. WURDEMAN: Well, the bill would go to the Mayor for
signature.
MR. TYLER: Yes.
MR. WURDEMAN: If, after looking at the facts I felt that it was
improperly passed, I would recommend that he veto, and then it would
be up to him.
MR. TYLER: Okay, so he vetos the bill and now it comes back here
and then you'll have atwo-thirds override, then what?
MR. WURDEMAN: Then it goes into effect until somebody
challenges it.
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MR. TYLER: What kind of a challenge are you likely to have on
these kinds of things, since it's going from less--I'm trying to, I'm
looking at the Akana Family here and I'm trying to think, how do we
move this thing and do it correctly?
MR. WURDEMAN: Well, there are people in this County, as you're
fully aware, that like to challenge things on procedural basis, just
because they like to challenge them, for no substantive reason or, you
know.
MR. TYLER: But Mr. Chung just said and I overhead this, I can't
help it, Mr. Chung, "but not in Hilo," you know, and that's probably
true. This is in Hilo, this is not in West Hawaii.
MR. WURDEMAN: I think Mr. Ross now spends most of his time
now in Hilo.
MR. TYLER: Oh, oh, he does?
MR. WURDEMAN: Yes.
MR. TYLER: Oh, okay. Well, I'm just curious and I didn't mean to
embarrass Mr. Chung, but I think you absolutely have a point, it's a
proper point, and that's the kind of point I was thinking.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, can I turn a lawyer to another lawyer,
because we'll ask Mr. Chung.
MR. TYLER: Yes, I'm going to yield the floor, Mr. Chairman. Thank
you, Mr. Wurdeman.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Do I speak that loudly
when I talk? Oh, okay. Mr. Koyama, you'd better hope that Mr. Tyler
and I are correct on this one. If not, you might be looking at a possible
referral back to the Planning Commission. But I'm still going to argue
that we have the ultimate right to go ahead and initiate these types of
things. I mean, not only change the title, but to really initiate it
without the need of a Planning Commission.
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The reason why I say that is, I'll refer to that section that was
mentioned by Ms. Leithead-Todd, "A bill shall not be amended to
change its original purpose." Even assuming that we're changing its
original purpose by this, I think we're not changing the original
purpose, but even assuming that we are, then it has to be--this thing
only says it has to be laid over for at least one week before final
reading.
Well, an amended bill shall, upon aone-third vote of the entire
membership, be laid over for at least one week before final reading,
but that still begs the question whether it has to be referred back to the
Planning Commission.
Now I know we have a Zoning Code provision which relates to
amendments initiated by the Council and Director, and in both
situations, it requires that it go to the Planning Commission.
MR. WURDEMAN: That would be a new bill.
MR. CHUNG: Right. But I think the---.
MR. WURDEMAN: I believe is the proper procedure to follow.
MR. CHUNG: But I think the County Charter is instructive here,
when it says that the "duties of the Planning Commission are, among
other things," or "they shall, among other things, review subdivision
and zoning code ordinances and amendments thereto drafted by the
Director and transmit such ordinances with recommendations thereon
through the Mayor to the Council." It only mentioned "drafted by the
Director," because I think what the Charter did was presuppose that
the Council has the authority to do such things without them. So I
think that the Zoning Code provision---.
MR. WURDEMAN: But the Council, by ordinances, limited its--.
MR. CHUNG: No, but we cannot--.
MR. WURDEMAN: You've limited your--.
MR. CHUNG: I believe--I think, okay, if you take it on its face value,
we have limited ourselves. But I think it's in contravention of this
Charter, that Charter intent, which specifically limited that situation
only to aDirector-initiated type of situation.
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MR. WURDEMAN: Well, you've assigned an additional duty to the
Planning Commission, which is to review your initiated ordinances.
MR. CHUNG: I don't think we can do that, though. That means we
can abrogate our powers anytime we wish to do so without some kind
of Charter or statutory authority. I don't think that's proper. I really
don't think that's proper. So I think that this thing, insofar as it
requires any Council initiated amendments to the Zoning Code, which
are very infrequent, I mean, I think we'll all admit that.
But in those situations, I think it's not applicable, and it's probably
void, in my opinion, and I know that differs with your opinion.
MR. WURDEMAN: The proper process would then be to amend the
Zoning Code to take that out.
MR. CHUNG: But then I would think as a practical matter, or going
even further, based on what Mr. Tyler said and what I whispered back
there, you know, we're going from a higher designation to a lower
designation and there were really no objections at the Commercial
General level, you know. I think there's all kinds of ways of arguing
this, but I would just say, change the title, hold it over for one more,
and let's just go on our merry way, because I think it's a good idea to
have something there, although I'd like to see you guys keep that
house and have somebody operate out of that house, that's my
personal feeling. But, you know, I think there's a practical thing of
solving all of this. I just cannot go with the Commercial General.
CHR. ARAKAKI: I guess lawyers can differ. Ms. Jacobson--I'm
going right down the line.
MS. JACOBSON: Actually, it was left-over from some time ago, the
question with Mr. Wurdeman, but since I've got the floor, I just
generally support Mr. Chung's position on this. I think it's in the best
interest of the residents and I think the chances of--I think if people
had opposed this, they would have come forward in your initial
process with it and that the chances that they'd come back opposing
something that would actually give them more protections of it being
kept to kind of a residential character to it, I think that's just about zip.
So I think Mr. Chung's on the right track and that's my thought.
Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Yagong.
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MR. YAGONG: I appreciate Mr. Wurdeman giving his opinion and I
tend to agree with Ms. Leithead-Todd and Mr. Wurdeman. However,
I'm going to side with Mr. Chung. I actually, in fact, I would actually
like Mr. Chung to actually make a motion to do it, whether it'd be to
hold it over for that, because I will support that.
The main reason for that is, as the applicant has stated, a lot of
investment and time and effort has gone into this and, you know, it
would just cost a lot more to have it go back. So in a sense, I'm siding
with Mr. Chung, but at the same time, I think I'm siding with
Mr. Koyama here because they do not object to Neighborhood
Commercial, but just that the length of time that it's going to take us to
go through the process. So I hope a motion is made to hold it over.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Elarionoff.
MR. ELARIONOFF: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Koyama, I
guess right now you can see how the trend is going among us and I'm
sure we can stay here and argue it until your client's money is all gone.
How do you feel about it? Do you want to take the chance on it, or are
you not willing to take the chance?
MR. KOYAMA: Well, it's been--.
MR. ELARIONOFF; You know, it's a principle of that, that at the end
of this principle, we don't know better, but at your expense, or your
client's expense.
MR. KOYAMA: Well, as I said before, we went in with a General
Commercial, basically to provide the owner with the flexibility to
provide some of the uses that he thought would be able to serve the
University, as well as the community, because it's a nice location next
to the University. There's a market for types of uses that might serve
the University, but I want to say that it's going to be restricted just to
businesses that serve the University, and they also would serve
businesses in the neighborhood.
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When we looked at the zoning map at the time we applied for this
project, we did notice that there were a number of General
Commercial zoned parcels, and as I looked at this map now, just to
refresh myself, within a block, the next block over, there are General
Commercial, there's a General Commercial at the corner, this is on
Kinoole (Street), not Kilauea Avenue, and right across the street from
that pazcel is the General Commercial and I believe that's the Credit
Union building.
So just one block from our property you have two General
Commercial zoned parcels, and as you go one block towards town,
there's another General Commercial. Across, I guess the kitty comer
across from that pazcel is another General Commercial. So all along
Kinoole (Street), you have a number of General Commercial
properties, not to mention the General Commercial properties that aze
zoned on Kilauea Avenue, Kilauea Street.
As I mentioned before, the General Plan shows that high density urban
is moving out or is designated for this whole area and includes the
property, and I think in the long term, vision of the General Plan, it's
looking at Hilo town expanding and growing. It recognizes that this
whole area is going through a transformation.
There's mixed uses all around this property. You have apartment
buildings in the back of the property. You have the ILWU Hall, which
is right across the street from the property. You have multi-family
zoned parcels, just one parcel over from the property. Of course you
have Wiki-Wiki, which, well, it's a Neighborhood Commercial zoned
property, but that's a property that's further away from the town area
that's also in commercial use.
Not to mention just a number of other type of facilities, a medical
clinic, a senior center facility, churches and apartment buildings, all in
this area. I think the point is this whole area is going through a
transformation and it's part of the Hilo town expanding, and the
University is a part of it, and they've also designated this area for a
college town area.
So if it's the Neighborhood Commercial that you're looking at, maybe
that's looking at the near term and eventually this area will be more of
a General Commercial type zone, and that's--I see the pattern.
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MR. ELARIONOFF: But once you made the statement that your
client had no objection to go into Neighborhood Commercial, you
know, I can see where the Council has gone along with Mr. Chung and
his affection for that house, and so we would like to see that preserved
and leave it Neighborhood Commercial.
But the question today we're facing right now is do you want to take a
chance and side with Mr. Chung, or you want to take your chances, or
not take a chance and go with Ms. Leithead-Todd. It's your client's
money.
MR. KOYAMA: I don't know. All he's interested in is getting the
commercial zoning so that he can do his project. If it means going
back to the Planning Commission, and again it's going to be more time
and investment for him, but if it means that okay, he's going to get the
zoning, then I think he wouldn't mind.
Well, it would be time and expense on his part, but I think his
preferences to just stick with the current zoning, but if that's going to
jeopardize the approval of this project, then he would then say okay,
well, why don't we just go with the Neighborhood Commercial. I
mean it's, you know--.
MR. ELARIONOFF: But I think the question I'm still trying to get to
you is that if we're going with Mr. Chung, you might get your
Neighborhood Commercial much sooner, but you might be subject to
challenges later on. Is that a worthy gamble for you?
MR. KOYAMA: I guess either way you there's a risk and I think
that's fine. If--I'm going to have to take confidence in the opinion of
Mr. Chung and Mr. Tyler. But, you know, I don't know. You know,
it's--.
MR. ELARIONOFF: Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Those are very difficult questions for you to
answer.
MR. KOYAMA: It is.
CHR. ARAKAKL Ms. Leithead-Todd.
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MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: I believe that if you change this from
General Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial, you are changing
the purpose of the bill. The Charter says you may not change the
purpose of the bill. Furthermore, if we change this by changing the
title, then this, I believe, becomes aCouncil-initiated amendment,
which triggers the zoning code requirements under (Section) 25-2-43
of the Hawaii County Code, which says "the Council shall refer any
proposed Council initiated amendment to this Chapter, to the Director
and the Commission with requests for their respective comments and
recommendation thereon prior to the first reading of any such
amendment. The Director and Commission shall each submit
comments," etc., "within 120 days," and it further goes on to state that
"the Commission shall hold at least one public heazing," and then the
Commission shall transmit it to us.
I believe if you change the title to change the purpose, you, there have,
anew bill, which is aCouncil-initiated amendment, and it triggers that
Code provision.
While the Charter initiates certain responsibilities to the Planning
Commission that we cannot take away from, theoretically, what we did
not--we didn't take any power away from us. We still vote on
rezoning, but we set up a process in the Code that I think we're
required to abide by. We set up a process that says if we initiate an
amendment, we send it to the Planning Commission for a public
heazing. It's atwo-step process. The reason is it gives the public more
opportunity.
What we're trying to do, is because the sentiment here is that the
Neighborhood Commercial is more appropriate, we're trying to
convolute and get around existing Charter and ordinance provisions
that would require sending this back to the Planning Commission
because nobody wants to do that, because it would delay development,
it would incur additional expense for the developer.
I have a suggestion which, while it would still leave the title, General
Commercial, might satisfy Mr. Chung's concerns.
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I have looked at what the differences between the uses for a
Neighborhood Commercial and for General Commercial are, and I'd
like to refer to (Section) 25-5-112, which are the uses in a General
Commercial area, and these are the items that are allowed in General
Commercial, but not allowed in Neighborhood Commercial, and what
I would suggest is that perhaps the better way to do this is to put
restrictions in this that would preclude those uses not allowed in
Neighborhood Commercial, and those would be:
No. 2 -Amusement and Recreational Facilities, Indoor;
No. 3 -Art Galleries and Museums;
No. 4 -Art Studios;
No. 7 -Bars, Nightclubs and Cabarets;
No. 12 -Car Washing;
No. 13 -Catering Establishments;
No. 14 -Cemeteries and Mausoleums;
No. 26 -Equipment Sales and Rental Yards, and Other Yazds where
Retail Products are Displayed in the Open;
No. 32 -Hospital Sanitaziums, Old Age, Convalescent Nursing and
Rest Homes, or Other Similar Uses;
No. 34 -Ice Storage and Dispensing Facilities;
No. 35 -Laboratories, Medical and Research;
No. 36 -Laundries;
No. 37 -Light Manufacturing, etc.;
No. 54 -Time Share Unites; and
No. 56 -Veterinary Establishments.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: By changing it from General Commercial to
Neighborhood Commercial, that is what you would be precluding the
owner from doing, and I'm saying that perhaps you could avoid some
of the potential legal challenges by just inserting those restrictions.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. Mr. Tyler.
MR. TYLER: Thank you, that's a very good suggestion. I think it's,
everybody knows I did not vote to support this rezoning and may not
today, even though if there's an amendment to change it to
Neighborhood Commercial, I would support that. But I just want to
speak to a couple of comments that have been made by the previous
speakers. Mr. Koyama talked about Hilo town expanding, that there's
General Commercial within one block, that this is a designated college
core area.
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That may be true, but I think if you drive through this area, all of us
who have done so and those of us who live here, know that this is a
very, very, very unique character in this area, and I think this is the
tension that we're all feeling, well most of us aze feeling, if not all of
us.
The other tension is this one about what the Charter says and who's
advisory and who's decision-making, etc., and I think, actually, we
need to refer to the new Code section, which was recently passed,
relating to the Planning Director and to the Planning Commission. It's
more succinct and I think the Council is pretty much familiar with it.
But generally speaking, it talks about--it more clearly defines the role
of the Planning Commission and the Planning Department, and the
intent, at least to the extent I was involved in writing part of it, was
that to clarify that, it is, the ultimate authority rests, for rezoning, rests
with this Body.
Now I've always had a problem with this, "any Council-initiated
amendment" has to go to the Planning Commission, to the Planning
Department, to the Planning Commission and back up, because I think,
essentially, this Body, current Body, and previous Bodies, has not
adhered to that strictly. I mean, it would make our jobs just
impossible.
What the current Charter reads is it says that they are to make
recommendations on rezoning applications. This is--the administrator,
head of the department, the Planning Director, shall make
recommendations on rezoning applications, special exemptions and
other similaz requests. Then with respect to the Planning Commission,
it says, "review proposed subdivision and zoning ordinance and
amendments thereto and transmits such ordinances with
recommendations thereon to the Mayor and to the Council for
consideration and action," which they have done.
So we are considering it, and we're about to take some form of action,
and we're following the process. That the County Code appears to be
inconsistent with this, actually, I think is a hold over of a fundamental,
in my estimation, a problem that we've had in the past where the
Council has, for whatever reason, turned over to the Planning
Commission certain responsibilities that actually are given by law, by
Charter, to the Council alone, and for whatever the reason--whether it
was the workload, maybe it was the lack of interest, I don't know what
happened.
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But fundamentally, it's one of principle in my mind. We are the final
arbiters of this, assuming there's no challenge, and I would like to state
for the record at this time, even though I don't live in Hilo, that I have
no plans to challenge any change to a Neighborhood Commercial, and
I would do everything I could to dissuade any other friends of mine
from West Hawaii in that regard.
So I think, you know, we've got these various tensions going on, but
we always have to come back to what is the authority of this Body,
and what is the Sunshine Law, and what is the public consideration for
the applicant, and the applicant's representative?
It seems to me that if, that we should be able to do this. On the other
hand, I don't want to set a precedent. Ms. Leithead-Todd says, yes, we
have a process, and I don't want to set a precedent that well, oh, this
one is, you know, the majority feels that we can do this, so we'll just
bypass the Commission on some major, major change.
I think what we're doing here is actually, we're almost down zoning
from what they were asking for, as opposed to increasing it. I think
Mr. Elarionoff, in his usual fashion, said it, as about succinctly as
could possibly be said, you know. If it was the other way around, he
wouldn't go with it, but since it's this way and it's a down zoning, he
did it. So I just wanted to make those comments, Mr. Chairman, and I
don't want to have anyone--I don't want Mr. Koyama or the
representatives of the Akana Trust to have any illusions about my
feelings on this.
I really think that it should remain in residential, but I want to listen to
what the representative from that area has to say. Thank you, Sir.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for allowing me to speak
one more time. You know, I know Mr. Koyama rattled off some of
the CG designated properties in the surrounding area, but I would offer
that, you know, only because the prior Council approved those
designations doesn't necessarily mean that it's correct. You know, I'd
certainly be willing to honor it, but at the same time, I would offer that
that Council probably didn't have Mr. Tyler who brought this, who
pointed this issue out to us, and probably the inappropriateness of the
designation.
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So I guess, by giving us, or informing us about those properties, only
buttresses, I think, our position, because if we were to allow one more
on the basis that, you know, other ones were allowed, then we're just
kind of exacerbating the situation. As far as I'm concerned, there's
only several areas which fall within the CG district--the area around
Prince Kuhio Plaza, you know, those areas; Hilo Shopping Center, that
area; and the Downtown area, I mean, as far as I can tell, based on the
definition that I see in the Zoning Code.
With respect to Ms. Leithead-Todd's suggestion, which is kind of
interesting, and I hope you realize that everybody is trying to help you
guys out. I mean, even if we have different perspectives of this, you
know, we're trying to get this done as fast as we can. But if you take
her interpretation of the Charter and the Zoning together, which
requires that something has to go back to the Planning Commission if
it is a substantial change, then obviously, her proposal has to go back
to the Planning Commission, because now you're not only--you're just
changing the substance, but not changing the designation or the name.
It's almost like a subterfuge. I think that's worse, frankly.
I think I would argue this, now, another alternative argument, and it
always gets us back to this provision. "A bill shall not be amended to
change its original purpose," but if it is, then "upon one-third vote of
the entire membership, it shall be laid over for at least one week before
final reading. So one thing is clear, you can amend a bill to change its
original purpose, that is clear, alright?
MR. WURDEMAN: But you've got the other section, I believe, that
says "the purpose should be expressed in its title," or words to that
effect. You also have a court case that says the same thing.
MR. CHUNG: Where, exactly, is that? I mean I know it's there
somewhere, but--.
MR. WURDEMAN: I don't have a Charter in front of me.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Here you go.
(A Hawaii County Charter was handed to
Mr. Wurdeman.)
MR. CHUNG: Okay, "every ordinance of the Council shall embrace
but one subject," right, that's what we're doing here.
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MR. WURDEMAN: "And that subject shall be expressed in the title."
MR. CHUNG: Right, which is a rezoning. It may be a different
designation, but it's still a commercial rezoning, because it's not like
we haven't changed titles before over here, you know, and it really
becomes a subjective determination as to what constitutes--.
MR. WURDEMAN: This has come up on several occasions and I
think our office opinion has been, both prior to my being there and
since I've been there, that changes that aze cosmetic or correction of
typographical errors, those kind of things, are permitted, but that any
change to substantive, is a change in the purpose of the bill.
MR. CHUNG: And so it really becomes a judgment call as to what
constitutes substantive, right?
MR. WURDEMAN: Right.
MR. CHUNG: Imean--because if it's not substantive, then you could
change it, and I'm of the opinion that it's not substantive. I mean,
that's where we might differ.
But now, if you take that argument and you go to this, the bill can be
amended, right, under certain conditions?
MR. WURDEMAN: Right.
MR. CHUNG: This Zoning Code ordinance only deals with
amendments to the Zoning Code ordinances, not to bills.
(At this time, approximately five seconds of discussion
was not recorded or available, due to technical problems
encountered with the recording equipment.)
MR. CHUNG: substantive nature, so as long as we make that
finding, I mean, it may be overturned by a Court at some subsequent
point--.
MR. WURDEMAN: To take it to extremes, you can't take this bill
and amend the text to appropriate money to the animal shelter.
MR. CHUNG: Right. But with this one, we're getting kind of close
to--it could go either way, right?
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MR. WURDEMAN; I think because of the specificity of the title and I
have never said the title need to be this specific, but someone who
drafts these things, they love to put details in the title. Because of the
way that the title is worded in this bill, I think you're changing when
you go to CN because of the many uses that you're not prohibiting, or
not permitting, as--
MR. CHUNG: Okay, try commenting on Ms. Leithead-Todd's
suggestion.
MR. WURDEMAN: Underrated by Ms. Leithead-Todd. Well, I
concur with what she said.
MR. CHUNG: No, her suggestion as to rectifying this situation.
MR. WURDEMAN: Okay. Well, I think it's legal. I don't think it's
a recommended procedure, but I think it would pass legal muster.
MR. CHUNG: I don't know how you can say that, because you're
changing now the substance. You're actually making it a--.
MR. WURDEMAN: They're putting conditions on the zoning, which
we do all the time. We say you cannot have a night club, but you can
have the zoning, or you cannot have this or you cannot have that.
MR. CHUNG: You know, I'm going to do this. I'm going to make a
motion to change, to make an amendment, as Mr. Yagong suggested,
because this is getting too far afield and I'm going to just take my
chances, actually.
MR. TYLER: Second.
MR. CHUNG: Because if it fails, then it goes back to the Planning
Commission. I didn't actually make a motion yet, but I'm going to
make a motion to amend the title of the bill to make this a, what is it
called? A CN designation, as opposed to a CG designation, and
hopefully everyone will see fit to consider anything within the text that
will be consistent with that change, as a friendly amendment.
FRIENDLY Mr. Chung moved to amend the title of Bill 106, Draft 2,
AMENDMENT: by changing the designation of General Commercial
(CG) to Neighborhood Commercial (CN). Seconded by
Mr. Tyler.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: Anyone want to discuss that? Okay,
Ms. Leithead-Todd.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: I believe that that amendment requires
sending it back to the Planning Commission. I know that some of my
colleagues differ, but I'd hate to set a precedent which says that if
someday there aze five of us here that decide that we want to go and
change something from Neighborhood Commercial or General
Commercial to Hotel Resort because it's aCouncil-initiated
amendment, that we do not have to comply with the Code and send it
back to the Planning Commission.
The precedent you're setting to is that I could come in with an original
bill. In other words, I could have a developer bypass the entire
Planning Commission and public hearing process and the notification
requirements required there by coming directly to me and saying,
"Bobby, could you initiate a bill to amend the zoning from
Agricultural to Resort-Hotel, and because it's initiated at the Council, I
don't have to go to the Planning Commission, I don't have to do those
extra public hearings, and I can fast track this, I can bypass all of that."
Now I may not be here, but we're setting a precedent that if we say
that you can do that, just remember that the Council elections are
every two years and you could get a group of people that are willing to
do that. They might not be in of£ce more than two years, but they
might be totally willing to do that. There aze safeguards that are set
up, and part of those safeguards were to ensure public participation
and notice.
I know that you're motivated by very good motives in this particular
bill, but I'm just saying that the precedent is set that if we do this and
we pass it, that down the road, somebody else can come along and do
something that many of us, who may not be here, would strongly
disagree with.
POINT OF MR. CHUNG: Mr. Chairman, just as a point of personal privilege, can
PERSONAL I just make a brief response to that?
PRIVILEGE:
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay.
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MR. CHUNG: First of all, you know, I don't want anybody to get the
impression that the reason why I'm making this amendment is because
I'm taking the interpretation that I had mentioned earlier, about it not
having to go to the Planning Commission. What I said, I think I made
it clear, that we should make a statement relating to either substantive,
or non-substantive nature of the change in the bill, and that's all. It's
just a subjective call.
WITHDRAW But you know, I'm going to do this. Because Ms. Leithead-Todd feels
MOTION: so strongly about this, because she is from Hilo too, I'm going to
withdraw my (friendly amendment) motion, and let the chips fall as
they may on this one.
MR. TYLER: Okay, I'll withdraw my second to the motion.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. Ms. Pisicchio. We're addressing the main
motion, the main motion, okay.
MS. PISICCHIO: Well, I was going to say I supported the amendment
made by the Councilman, but I'm going to support whatever direction
he takes because he represents the district and also he's an attomey,
and this has been a fascinating discussion. But to me, again, it boils
down--I'm not an attomey, but it boils down to the concept of
changing the intent of the bill. To me, the intent of the bill, from a
non-attorney perspective, is going from Residential to Commercial.
That's the substantive intention here. What kind of commercial, to
me, is maybe not significant. The significant thing, again, is from
Residential to Commercial.
But I kind of wanted to make a little bit of a joke. In earlier part of
this discussion where here we have Councilman Tyler, whose fame is
for really so, interpreting the law, deciding that in this case we can
disregard the opinion of the Corporation Counsel because who in Hilo
is going to file suit? So that's the best thing that I've heard since I've
been on the Council, I think.
MR. TYLER: Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Overrule the Corporation Counsel.
MS. PISICCHIO: Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Ms. Jacobson.
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MS. JACOBSON: Well, I think at this point, when you read off that
list and you suggested maybe we look at that list, Ms. Leithead-Todd, I
thought maybe that's what we should do, and the one that strikes me
as, if I were in that neighborhood, the one that would be critical to me,
and I would also think it was particularly pertinent because it might be
commercially valuable for the owner to build something like that and
could make a lot of money on it, would be bazs and nightclubs, and I
could see that that would be a real source of contention in a residential
area, and it seems like, I mean, I don't know that anyone's really likely
to do some of these other things, and I'd be happy to have other things
added to it, but at this point, I'd like to, and maybe I can get some help
with the wording, but make an amendment that would say we would
exclude the use, the building of a facility to serve liquor in the area.
I think if I'd look at what I'd think of the concept of the neighborhood,
that would be one of those key things that would be, that I could
potentially imagine people objecting to, and I could potentially
imagine a motivation to do it because of students and students who
attend such locations. So--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: You'd still have to be of age to drink liquor,
though.
MS. JACOBSON: Well I know, but still, we have, actually in this day
and age, a lot more older students than we used to, and I could see it
being in conflict with even the university courses that might be held in
the evenings to go as late as 9 or 10 o'clock at night, and I could see it
being opposed by that--.
POINT OF MR. TYLER: Mr. Chairman, excuse me, point of order. If
ORDER: Ms. Jacobson would like to make a motion, then she can speak to the
motion. But Ididn't,--
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes, that's right.
MS. JACOBSON: Thank you, no, let's see.
MR. TYLER: Please, if you wish to make it, make it and we'll see if
it--, yes.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Do you wish to make a motion?
MS. JACOBSON: Okay, I wish to make a motion.
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Ms. Jacobson moved to amend Bill 106, Draft 2, to
exclude the commercial development of establishments
to serve liquor.
CHR. ARAKAKI: That would be a condition.
MS. JACOBSON: A condition.
CHR. ARAKAKI: You needed a second.
Seconded by Ms. Leithead-Todd.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Anyone want to speak to that? Mr. Tyler.
MR. TYLER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand the reason for
this. I think it makes a lot of sense, however, if we're going to do this,
you know, we really need to look at all the rest of them and I would
feel much more comfortable with a more inclusive amendment, as
suggested by Ms. Leithead-Todd, and whether that gets a second and
whether it passes muster and etc., then it's just like the previous one
that was withdrawn. So I would feel more comfortable with that and I
kind of was hoping that Ms. Leithead-Todd would do that, and I don't
know if she's going to.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Who else would like to speak to that exclusion?
Okay, Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: Mr. Chairman, perhaps if I could ask Mr. Wurdeman,
not that we're going to listen to him, sorry, but, I know you made a
statement earlier that we impose conditions all the time. But we have
enacted a set of laws relating to Zoning and what types of activities
shall be permitted in a particular zoning district.
For example, in a CG, bars shall be permitted. Where, in the Hawaii
County Zoning Code is it provided that we can now pull back from
something like that? After something has a mandatory word "shall?"
MR. WURDEMAN: Well, it's not specifically provided for, but it has
been the practice. On a regular basis, the conditions are imposed, in
addifion to--.
MR. CHUNG: I'm not worried about what the practice has been. I
just want to know what the specific authority is for us to now hold
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back on a duly enacted ordinance which has, which the public is
presumably, I mean, you know, they can rely on something like this.
POINT OF MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Point of information, Section 25-2-44 of the
INFORMATION: Hawaii County Code, conditions on change of zone, allow the
Council to impose conditions on the use of the project.
MR. WURDEMAN: Right, and in addition to that, you have a general
ordinance, which is the Zoning Code. You have this ordinance, which
is the zone change. One is special, particular to this property, and one
is applicable to the whole County. They're of equal dignity and you
can, in essence, not amend--.
MR. CHUNG: Right. I know about that thing that Ms. Leithead-Todd
just brought up, you know, as a point of personal privilege, but it's
really a general thing. You can impose conditions. I want to know
where it's specifically provided where we can eliminate something
that we have duly enacted as an ordinance.
MR. WURDEMAN: Because you're passing another ordinance that
should take precedence under any rule of construction. One, it's
subsequent to the Zoning Code; two, it's a particular special case
rather than of general application.
MR. CHUNG: So I guess you're saying it's okay, then?
MR. WURDEMAN: Right. I don't think it's the preferred way to
proceed and I agree with what you said about the purpose of CG and
where it's supposed to be and where it's not supposed to be, but given
the considerations that we've heard about the equities--in this case, I
think it's okay.
MR. CHUNG: So, in once sense, then we have to allow the public,
you know, the opportunity to have things heard at the Planning
Commission for their sake, and now on the other hand, what we can do
is we can restructure a bill at the Council level totally contrary to what
was had at the Planning Commission and we don't have to go back to
the Planning Commission? There's something kind of funny over
there, you know?
MR. TYLER: Yes.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Yes, we do it all the time.
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MR. CHUNG: Yes, but, well, I just wanted to point that out.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Anyone want to address the liquor thing? That's
what's on the floor, to eliminate--.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Yes, the liquor thing, and to some extent,
Mr. Chung's comments. We have had bills where the Planning
Commission recommended denial of the zoning change and yet we
have gone against their recommendation and approved it at the
Council. So we have gone against everything that the Planning
Commission recommended, because we have that authority.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Would you address the liquor?
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: We have the authority to impose additional
conditions when we feel that it's in the public's interest, such as
barring a nightclub or an establishment that's, you know, a cabaret
type of establishment, if we find that it is in the public's interest to ban
that particular use.
If we find that that condition on the use of the property is necessary to
prevent circumstances which could be adverse to the public health,
safety and welfare, or we need that to protect the public from
potentially deleterious effects of the.proposed use, you can do it.
If you think that the neighborhood would be potentially adversely
impacted by a cabaret or nightclub in that azea, you can impose that on
the General Commercial classification. Where I see this going is I'm
not sure what'll happen with this particular amendment, so why don't
we just vote on it?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Essentially what she's saying is banning liquor, am
I correct?
MS. JACOBSON: That was the gist of it.
CHR. ARAKAKI: In other words, you cannot, just for clarification,
Pizza Hut that sells beer, out, if they sell liquor. Okay, essentially
that's what happens.
MS. JACOBSON: I didn't think about--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Yagong, you have the floor.
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MR. YAGONG: Let's just vote and I want to speak to the main
motion after it, yes.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Oh, okay. Ms. Jacobson, you want to speak to that
liquor thing, your motion?
MS. JACOBSON: Well, yes, and I would also speak that I was just
started, by the thought that I'd start simple, but I'd be perfectly open to
either withdrawing it if you have, Ms. Leithead-Todd would like to
make an amendment that would include that one and cover others, or
have things added to it, so I'm not just set on this just exactly as it is.
I'd be open to changes.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, okay, that's fine. Ms. Pisicchio, you want to
speak to that liquor thing?
MS. PISICCHIO: I guess I speak against the motion because even if
we added all these conditions, one condition or other conditions, it
would still remain in General Commercial, and so Mr. Chung's
original objection to the intention of General Commercial and what the
general precedent it sets for the development of the neighborhood, it's
still there, because General Commercial connotes something, so
adding these other little conditions in, I don't, I would still, I don't
think satisfies his concerns. So I speak in opposition.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, let's address the motion. The Chair will be
voting against the motion. I think it's selecting out one item from the
CG area and it's just like picking and choosing and I think it's a little
premature that, you know, maybe an innocuous liquor dispensing
might be precluded. So I'll be voting against it. So, Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: I just wanted to make one explanation, because I'm
going to be voting in support of this motion, okay, even, despite all of
my feelings to the contrary, I'll be voting in favor of it, because in the
event that it passes, it's a good thing. You know, I don't know how,
you know, the main motion is going to play out, but if it does
somehow pass with the CN designation, then, you know, I think it's a
worthwhile endeavor to, you know, have bars prohibited in those
areas. So I'll be voting in favor of this instant motion, thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. You want to speak to that?
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FRIENDLY MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: I just want to clarify with Ms. Jacobson.
AMENDMENT: The language, because I'm trying to remember exactly what your
language is, but the language that, in the permitted uses, I think, that
you're trying to eliminate is Item No. 7, and the specific language is,
"bars, nightclubs and cabarets." Would that be a friendly clarification
of your amendment?
MS. JACOBSON: Yes, that would.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: So what we would be voting on is an
amendment to ban "bars, nightclubs and cabarets" as a permitted use
on this particular property.
MS. JACOBSON: Thank you.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Okay.
POINT OF MR. CHUNG: One more point of information, Mr. Chairman, I think
INFORMATION: it wouldn't preclude something like a Pizza Hut, because that would be
a restaurant with alcoholic beverages served as an ancillary type of
thing. I don't think it would be considered as a bar.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Well, she cleared it up, but prior to that she said
"liquor" and it was kind of like a general statement. So, Mr. Tyler,
you want to speak to that?
MR. TYLER: Yes, Mr. Chairman, to the motion. I think it's been
clarified, but I just want to be sure that Ms. Jacobson, in making the
motion and then agreeing to this friendly amendment, I thought what I
heard was "the sale or consumption of alcohol on the property."
CHR. ARAKAKI: That's what I thought.
MS. JACOBSON: I did, if I could respond.
MR. TYLER: Wait, so, let me just finish. So I thought that's what I
heard. Now, the friendly, what you said was a friendly amendment, is
actually different from what you proposed, so are you agreeing to that?
MS. JACOBSON: Yes, I am. I just hadn't thought it through, but I
think the idea of a restaurant where a person might have a beer with a
meal isn't disruptive to the whole neighborhood. It was the idea of
music and lots of people just drinking as a nightclub or a cabaret, so I
appreciate Ms. Leithead-Todd's friendly amendment.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Tyler, satisfied?
MR. TYLER: Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Yagong.
MR. YAGONG: Thank you. I don't know if this whole discussion of
this liquor thing is moot because, you know, the consumption of liquor
is allowed under General Commercial. So we're making an
amendment, because the main motion is still on the floor that the
motion is, because Mr. Chung withdrew his motion, is for us to
approve a General Commercial. So does that mean that if you approve
taking this liquor out that when the main motion comes forth for
General Commercial, you're going to approve General Commercial?
Because the feeling t get is no one here supports General Commercial.
So if you don't want liquor, then you just vote against General
Commercial, you know? So if we're going to change, you know, take
this one item out and then vote against General Commercial, then
we're just spinning wheels here.
So, anyway, I'm going to speak against the motion and I hope we can
go to the vote so that we can go to the main motion, and then I can
speak at that time, Mr. Chairman.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Ms. Leithead-Todd.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Mr. Chairman, liquor consumption is also
allowed in Neighborhood Commercial, because Neighborhood
Commercial also allows restaurants in there, and actually, whether or
not you consume liquor is no so much governed by the Zoning Code
as a fact that you have to go to the Liquor Commission to get a license
to have liquor consumed, and then there's a whole separate notice
provision.
So regardless of whether you have General Commercial or
Neighborhood Commercial, you have to go get that license, you have
to notify the community that you're trying to get a license to dispense
liquor, and you have to have a whole separate hearing process. But it
is allowed in Neighborhood Commercial because restaurants are
allowed.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Ms. Jacobson.
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MS. JACOBSON: Just to clarify that, the question you asked,
Mr. Yagong, I would've preferred Neighborhood Commercial. I think
it was the appropriate designation, but it looked like we weren't
getting that. I didn't want to punish the owner in their Commercial
endeavor, so I thought I'd just zero in on what I thought was the most
odious example and that's why I brought it up--so I do plan to support
it at this point.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Yagong, you want to speak to that
again?
MR. YAGONG: No, let's just vote on the motion.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. The motion is to ban cabaret and, whatever,
what did you say?
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Bars, nightclubs and cabarets.
CHR. ARAKAKI: I thought that's what they want around
Universities?
The vote on the amendment to Bill 106, Draft 2, by the
show of hands, was as follows:
AYES: Councilmembers Chung, Elarionoff,
Jacobson, Leithead-Todd, Pisicchio and
Tyler - 6.
NOES: Councilmembers Smith, Yagong and
Chairman Arakaki - 3.
ABSENT & EXCUSED:
None.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, the motion carries. What is the main--what
is the motion on the floor? We don't have a motion to amend, right, to
Neighborhood?
MR. KONISHI: Mr. Chairman, the main motion is to pass Bill 106,
Draft 2.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: To pass the bill? Okay, that's the motion, to pass
the bill? Okay, Mr. Yagong.
MR. YAGONG: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Koyama, so
we're down in the 9th inning now, on this thing, here, okay, and so the
motion on the floor is to approve with the General Commercial. So, in
this case here, you know, I think Mr. Elarionoffmentioned that you'd
want to take a chance, that's where we're at right now. We're at a
point in juncture where we're going to determine whether this Council
feels General Commercial is a proper designation, and if you don't get
the five votes, then your project dies.
My question to you, and because I still agree with Mr. Chung's first
assessment that we should go to Neighborhood Commercial--my
question to you, Mr. Koyama, would you like to take a few minutes
where we can table this so you can speak to your applicants over there
prior to this vote? If not, I'll just go ahead and go with the vote, but,
you know, this has been a pretty long process, or would you just want
to stand and see what happens with this vote, or do you want to take
time to speak to these folks? I' m assuming that they're the Trust,
there.
MR. KOYAMA: We'd like to take a short recess.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, we'll take a recess for lunch and then come
back at 1:30 p.m.
RECESS: At 12:45 p.m., the Chair called for a recess for lunch and announced
that the meeting would reconvene at 1:30 p.m.
RECONVENE: The meeting was reconvened at 1:45 p.m., with all Members present.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, the meeting come back to order. We're
back from a lunch break. We had left off, let's see, we were on which
one, Mr. Clerk, 106?
MR. KONISHI: Mr. Chairman, we were on Bill 106, Draft 2, and the
bill was amended to impose a condition which would impose a
condition which would prohibit bars, nightclubs and cabarets from, as
a permitted use of the subject property. Then as we went to the break,
Mr. Yagong asked the applicant's representative if he needed a few
minutes to speak to his client.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, and we are on the main motion, and
Mr. Yagong has the floor.
MR. YAGONG: Yes. So I have the floor, Mr. Chairman?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes.
MR. YAGONG: Thank you. Mr. Koyama, thank you--the break
allowed us to go out and have lunch and it allowed me an opportunity
to speak to your applicant. Do you want to share any thoughts right
now, regarding my question?
MR. KOYAMA: First of all, could you repeat the motion on the
floor?
CHR. ARAKAKI: The motion is to approve Bill 106, but it was
amended to exclude bars, cabarets and nightclubs.
MR. YAGONG: But the amendment still is to prove the zoning to
General Commercial (CG)?
MR. SMITH: Yes, and the amendment.
MR. KOYAMA: Yes, after hearing the discussion today among the
Councilmen, and after discussing this matter with the owner, we also
looked at what the Neighborhood Commercial zoning would allow,
and it appears that the uses that are permitted under the Neighborhood
Commercial would still allow the owner to do the things that he wants
to do, and so he is amenable to go into Neighborhood Commercial.
MR. YAGONG: Mr. Chairman, with that said at this point in time, I'd
like to make an amendment to amend Bill 106, Draft 2--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Before you do that, Mr. Yagong, may I ask him a
question?
MR. YAGONG: Sure.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: I know you talked to your client--did you want to
withdraw the whole thing and start the process all over? That's one
option, right, because I know what Mr. Yagong is going to do, and go
to the Neighborhood Commercial zoning, which you can do that. I
think what Mr. Yagong is going to do is make an amendment so that
you could try and do it here on the floor, but then it would be
questionable whether the Mayor will approve it or whatever, if it
passes here, first of all. So did you want this Council to proceed?
MR. KOYAMA: Well, I'd like to do the proper thing, if the Council
believes that Neighborhood Commercial would be appropriate for this
property, then we would go with that.
CHR. ARAKAKI: No, I guess the question I'm asking is, did you
want to withdraw and start the process over and go into that, rather
than take a chance of having us vote on amending it, or do you want us
to go ahead and--.
MR. KOYAMA: If the motion is to amend and it's denied, then let's
go back to the original motion, which is to vote for it on General. I'd
like you to proceed with the current motion.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Fine, I'll let Mr. Yagong proceed.
MR. YAGONG: Proceed with the current motion?
MR. KOYAMA: Which is to amend--.
MR. YAGONG: Oh, okay, yes. Okay, I just wanted to make sure,
because to me, the correct motion is General Commercial.
MR. KOYAMA: General Commercial, with the condition that we
don't allow liquor establishments on the property.
MR. YAGONG: Right, I'm about to make an amendment to change
the zoning from General Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial.
AMENDMENT: Mr. Yagong moved to amend Bill 106, Draft 2, by
changing the district classification designation from
General Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial.
MR. KOYAMA: But we have a current motion that you're voting on?
CHR. ARAKAKI: He's amending the motion that was on the floor.
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MR. KOYAMA: He's amending the motion that is to amend--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: He's amending it to go to Neighborhood
Commercial.
MR. KOYAMA: Okay, I guess I'm confused.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Wait, wait, we need a second on that.
Seconded by Mr. Elarionoff.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Mr. Elazionoff seconded it. Now we can discuss it.
Mr. Yagong, you still have the floor.
MR. YAGONG: Yes. I guess I just fee] that after listening to all the
arguments, very good discussion on both sides of the fence, I still feel
that Neighborhood Commercial is the proper designation and adhering
to some of the azguments, especially by Mr. Chung, I feel comfortable
that we should be able to pass this with the, probably further
discussion, but I think his arguments would prevail in the end. So I'm
going to support Neighborhood Commercial. So thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, the motion is to amend Bill 106, Draft 2, by
changing the title and all the contents within the bill from General
Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial. Am I correct,
Mr. Yagong?
MR. YAGONG: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Leithead-Todd.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Mr. Koyama, if the amendment to
Neighborhood Commercial goes through, would you prefer to have us
refer it back to the Planning Commission for the public hearing, and
then they would send it back to us to remove any potential cloud over
this, or do you want to take your chances that approving it
Neighborhood Commercial here, without referring it back to Planning
Commission, could result in a mayoral veto?
MR. KOYAMA: We discussed this with the owner, and hesitantly he
would like to do the proper thing, and if it means eliminating any
cloud over the project, he would go with going back to the Planning
Commission.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Okay, thank you.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, Mr. Chung.
MR. CHUNG: I guess that being the case, we're back to square one,
then, Imean--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes, it should go back.
MR. CHUNG: Imean, if they want to go back, I mean, you know,
Mr. Koyama, we're trying to do whatever we could within our power
to get this designated properly, which would be the Neighborhood
Commercial designation, but also to allow you to, you know, begin
your development as soon as possible.
But based on what I hear, you don't mind it going back to the Planning
Commission and starting the whole thing all over again?
MR. KOYAMA: Hesitantly, we don't want to do that. But if, and
we're not attorneys, you know, we don't want cloud over this bill, then
maybe it's the way. But--.
POINT OF MR. YAGONG: Mr. Chairman. Point of order, Mr. Chairman--.
ORDER:
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes.
MR. YAGONG: In light of that, I didn't think that that was going to
be stated by the applicant, so in light of that, would that mean,
Mr. Chairman, maybe my motion should be withdrawn--we should
vote on it, and if it's filed, then a new application is going to come
forward?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Actually--.
POINT OF MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Point of information--if we reject the--
INFORMATION: let's say there is no amendment by Mr. Yagong and we instead vote on
a motion to approve the General Commercial. What happens then is
this bill is totally dead and they have to restart the application with the
filing and processing fee, and all the maps and everything, they'd have
to start again.
If we amend the bill and refer it back to the Director and the Planning
Commission, they do not have to do a new application.
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MR. YAGONG: So, Mr. Chairman, would the proper motion be to
amend and send back to the Planning Commission? Would that be the
proper motion?
CHR. ARAKAKI: That would be a better motion. That would--.
MR. YAGONG: I'd like to amend my motion to change General
Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial, and also to send it back to
the Planning Commission.
AMENDMENT: Mr. Yagong moved to amend his previous proposed
amendment by changing the district classification from
General Commercial to Neighborhood Commercial, and
also to send the bill to the Planning Commission.
Seconded by Mr. Elarionoff.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay. Any discussion on that? Okay, everybody,
I'll tum all of you off. I think now you'll be okay now. I don't see
any lights.
The voice vote on the amendment was as follows:
AYES: Councilmembers Chung, Elarionoff,
Jacobson, Leithead-Todd, Pisicchio, Smith,
Tyler, Yagong and Chairman Arakaki - 9.
NOES: None.
ABSENT & EXCUSED:
None.
CHR. ARAKAKI: The motion is carried. That was for the
amendment, yes--now we go back to the main motion. Okay, I'm
sorry. Let's take (Bill) 106, Draft 2, as amended. Okay, any
discussion? Hearing none, Mr. Clerk.
The roll call vote on the amendment to Bill 106, Draft 2
(Bill 106, Draft 4), was as follows:
AYES: Councilmembers Chung, Elarionoff,
Jacobson, Leithead-Todd, Pisicchio, Smith,
Tyler, Yagong and Chairman Arakaki - 9.
NOES: None.
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ABSENT & EXCUSED:
None.
(Note: This above-referenced approved amendment to
Bill 106, Draft 2 is hereby identified as Bill 106, Draft 4.
A Bill 106, Draft 3 had been introduced at the August
25, 1999 Council meeting, and was subsequently filed;
therefore Draft 3 will not be reused to identify this new
amendment.)
CHR. ARAKAKI: Bill 106, Draft 2, (as amended), passes second--
wait aminute, how do we word this? It cannot be--not final reading--it
passes, but it goes back to the Planning Commission for consideration
again. Do you understand what happened, Mr. Koyama? Okay, all
bets are off on all the other stuff now, the CG stuff. Now we have
approved this amendment, Mr. Yagong's, as a Neighborhood
Commercial, so everything that's designated Neighborhood, as in the
Code, stands. Mr. Tyler.
MR. TYLER: Mr. Chairman, just a procedural question. So if this
passed on final reading--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: No, it didn't pass final, it's not final reading.
MR. TYLER: Okay, because I thought I heard you say it passed.
CHR. ARAKAKI: It passed to go back to the Planning Commission.
MR. TYLER: But it was sent--.
CHR. ARAKAKI: The amendment is--.
MR. TYLER: But the motion was to approve the bill, as amended.
That was the main motion.
MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: But the amendment was to refer it back to
the Planning Commission.
CHR. ARAKAKI: The amendment is to refer it back to the Planning
Commission.
MR. TYLER: Okay, so when the Planning Commission has
completed its action--.
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CHR. ARAKAKI: It comes back up again.
MR. TYLER: Then it'll come back and it needs to get waived up to
Council, whatever happens, and then we go through the process again?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Right, right.
POINT OF MS. LEITHEAD-TODD: Point of information. My intention is to
INFORMATION: waive it up to Council when this bill comes back.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay.
MR. TYLER: Mr. Chairman, and then it would come back and then it
would then have to go through the two reading process?
CHR. ARAKAKI: Yes, two readings, two readings.
MR. TYLER: Okay, alright. Thank you very much.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, that'd be okay with you?
MR. KOYAMA: Yes, please.
CHR. ARAKAKI: Okay, for after two hours ofthis--but you know, at
least we didn't kill it. We're moving forward! Thank you. Thank you
for coming today.
MR. KOYAMA: Thank you.
CHR. ARAKAKI: That's a good question--what bill it'll come up as,
I'll let you guys work that out.
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ADJOURN- The Chair directed the Council to proceed to the next order of
MENT: business, Adjournment.
There being no further business to come before the
Council, at 4:15 p.m., Ms. Leithead-Todd moved that
the meeting be adjourned. Seconded by Mr. Tyler and
unanimously carried by the following voice vote:
AYES: Councilmembers Chung, Elarionoff,
Jacobson, Leithead-Todd, Pisicchio, Smith,
Tyler and Yagong - 9.
NOES: None.
ABSENT & EXCUSED:
None.
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July 28, 1999 Hilo, Harvnii 96720
TO: James Y. Arakaki, Chair
and Members of the Hawaii County Council
FROM: iii Bobby Jean Leithead-Todd, Chair
Committee on Planning
RE: Proposed Bill No. 106, Draft 2
Applicant: Akana Trust
TMI{: 2-2-25:24
Attached for your favorable consideration is proposed Bill No. 106, Draft 2, which includes the
proposed conditions of the Planning Commission. Because the Planning Commission did not
have the necessary five votes to move on this measure, they submitted the Change of Zone
request to the County Council with no recommendation and no conditions. All inserted
conditions are verbatim, except for Condition H which has been amended to "Prior to the
issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy for the proposed development, the applicant shall
submit a final written report to the Planning Director stating that all conditions have been met."
and Condition D which has been amended to "Prior to the issuance of a Certificate of
Occupancy, driveway..."
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(Draft 2)
ORDINANCE NO.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO ZONE MAP),
ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING CODE) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE, BY
CHANGING THE DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
(RS-]0) TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL (CG-20) AT WAIAKEA, SOUTH HILO, HAWAII,
COVERED BY TAX MAP KEY 2-2-25:24.
BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAII:
SECTION 1. Section 25-8-33, Article 8, Chapter 25 (Zoning Code) of the Hawaii
County Code, is amended to change the district classification of property described hereinafter as
follows:
The district classification of the following area situated at Waiakea, South Hilo,
Hawaii, shall be General Commercial (CG-20):
Beginning at the west corner of this parcel of land, on the southeasterly side of Lanikaula
' Street, the coordinates of said point of beginning referred to Government Survey
Triangulation Station "HALAI" being 3,976.92 feet South and 6,594.90 feet East, thence
rumiing by azimuths measured clockwise from True South:
1. 238° 10' 217.00 feet along the southeasterly side of
Lanikaula Street;
2. Thence along the south comer of the intersection of Lanikaula Street and Kinoole
Street, on a curve to the right with a radius
of 20.00 feet, the chord azimuth and distance
being: 283° 10' 28.28 feet;
3. 328° 10' 153.40 feet along the southwesterly side of Kinoole
Street;
4. 58° 10' 237.00 feet along Grant 9391;
5. 148° 10' 173.40 feet along 30-ft. Railroad Right-of--Way
(abandoned) to the point of beginning and
containing an azea of 41,010 squaze feet.
All as shown on the map attached hereto, mazked Exhibit "A" and by reference
made a part hereof.
SECTION 2. This change in district classification is conditioned upon the following:
A. The aRplica_nt its successors or aligns chap be responsible for complying with all
of the stated conditions of ap rp oval.
~ The aQp]icant shall submit the anticipated maximum daily water usage calculation
and the required water commitment payment to the Department of Water Supply
in accordance with its "Water Commitment Guidelines Policy" within ninety (901
days from the date of Final Plan Approval
Construction of titgproposed development and related improvements within the
~bjg~ip;opertv shall be completed within five X51 veazs from the effective date of
this ordinance This time pgriod shall include cecuring Final Plan Approval from
the Planning Director in accordance with the Zoning Code Sections 25-2-72 and
~S 5_117 and the Planning Department's Rule 17,JrLandscaping RequirementsL
the commercial development within the subject property Plans shall identify
structures fire ~ptection measures lands~~e and maintenance plan~n v and
t~ripgd parkins stalls and drivewayand other improvements associated with the
proposed uses Plans shall include landscapine alongproperty boundaries for the
puroose of mitigating air potential adverse noise and visual impacts to
surrounding~roperties.
D. Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy driveway access and
channelization improvements to the Lanikaula/Kinoole Street intersection and the
proposed
driveway shall meet with the approval of the Department of Public
Works Street lights signs and markings shall be installed if required on
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Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street meeting_with the approval of the De ment
of Public Works.
~ Prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy for any development on the
subject property the applicant shall provide improvements to the frontage of the
subjgct property along Kinoole Street and Lanikaula treet con i ing of but not
limited to commercial standazd sidewalks (sidewalks with no planter stripy along
the entire frontage of the subject~roperty meetine with the anp~gval of the
Department of Public Works Sidewalks and an accessible wheelchair ramp at the
corner of Kinoole Street and Lanikaula Street shall be provided and meet with the
a~roval of the Commission on Persons with Disabilities and the Department of
Public Works.
E. A Solid Waste Management Plan shall be submitted for review and approval to
the Department of Public Works in coniunction with the submittal o~plans for
Final Plan Approval.
Sewer line connections to the County sewer system shall be installed meetine with
the reauirements of the Department of Public Works.
~j, Prior to the issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy for the proposed
development. the applicant shall submit a final written report to the Planning
Director stating that all conditions have been met.
j, Comply with all other applicable rules. regulations and requirements of the
affected agencies for the development of the subject prop.
Should the Council adopx,a Unified Impact Fee Ordinance setting forth criteria for
imposition of exactions or the assessment of impact fees conditions included
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herein shall be credited towards the req>asements of the Unified Impact Fee
Ordinance.
~C. An initial extension of time for the performance of conditions within the
ordinance may be granted by the Planning Director upon the followine
circumstances:
The non-performance is the recall of conditions chat could not have been
foreceen or aze beyond the control of the avnlicants. successors or assien,~
and that aze not the result of their fault or negligence.
~ r nting of the time extension would not be contrary to the General Plan
or Zoning Code.
ranting of the time extension would not be contra to the original
reasons for the granting of the change of zone.
4. The time extension granted shall be for a neriod not to exceed the period
nr;ain~ally_granted for performance (j e a condition to be performed within
one year maybe extended for up to one additional vear 1
Should any of the conditions not be met or substantiall cy
or~1plied with in a timely
fashion the Director may initiate rezoning9f the subject~ronerty to its original or
more ~,nriate designation.
SECTION 3. In the event that any portion of this ordinance is declazed invalid, such
invalidity shall not affect the other parts of this ordinance.
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SECTION 4. This ordinance shall take effect upon its approval.
INTRODUCED BY:
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Hilo, Hawaii
Date of Introduction:
Date of 1st Reading:
Date of 2nd Reading:
Effective Date:
F.tFERt1~GE: Comm. 375.001
APPROVED AS TO FORM AND LEGALITY
CORPORATION COUNSEL
DATED:
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AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE
AMENDING SECTION 25-8-33 (CITY OF HILO ZONE MAP) ARTICLE 8, CHAPTER 25 (ZONING
CODE) OF THE HAWAII COUNTY CODE, BY CHANGING THE DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION FROM
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (RS-10) TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL (CG-20) AT WAIAKEA,
SOUTH HILO, HAWAII.
PREPARED BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT
COUNTY OF HAWAII
TMK 2-2-25:24 JUNE 10, 1999
(AKANA TRUS'n
EXHIBIT "A'
§25-5-100 HAWAII COUNTY CODE
development.
Division 10. CN, Neighborhood Commercial Districts
Section 25-5-100. Purpose and applicability. The CN (neighborhood commercial) district ap-
plies to strategically located centers suitable for commercial activities which shall be of such size
and shape as will accommodate a compact shopping center which supplies goods and services to a
residential or working population on a frequent need or convenience basis. This district is distin-
guished from a central commercial district which provides general business and broad services to a
city or region.
Section 25-5-101. Designation of CN districts. Each CN (neighborhood commercial) district
shall be designated by the symbol "CN" followed by a number which indicates the minimum land
area, in thousands of square feet, required for each building site.
Section 25-5-102. Permitted uses.
(a) The following uses shall be permitted in the CN district:
(l) Adult day care homes.
(2) Automobile service stations
(3) Bed and breakfast establishments, as permitted under section 25-4-~.
(4) Boarding facilities, rooming, or lodging houses, provided that the maximum den-
sity shall be one thousand two hundred fifty square feet of land area per rentable
unit or dwelling unit.
(5) Business services.
(6) Cemeteries and mausoleums, as permitted under chapter 6, article l of this code.
(7) Churches, temples and synagogues.
(8) Community buildings, as permitted under section 25-4-1 I.
(9) Convenience stores.
(10) Crop production.
(1 I) Day care centers.
(12) Dwellings, double-family or duplex, provided that the maximum density shall be
one thousand two hundred fifty square feet of land azea per rentable unit or dwell-
ing unit.
(13) Dwellings, multiple-family, provided that the maximum density shall be one thou-
sand two hundred fifty square feet of land area per rentable unit or dwelling unit.
(14) Dwellings, single-family.
(l5) Family child care homes.
(16) Farmers mazkets. When the vending activity in a fazmers market involves more
than just the sale of local fresh and/or raw produce, plant life, fish and local home-
grown and homemade products for more than two days a week, the director, at the
time of plan approval, shall restrict the hours of use, maintenance and operations
and may require improvements as determined appropriate to ensure its compatibil-
ity with the existing character of the surrounding area.
(l7) Financial institutions.
(l8) Group living facilities.
(19) Home occupations, as permitted under section 25-4-13.
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Ordinance No. 96-160 (ar amended by n 25-70
ZONING § 25-~- 103
(20) Medical clinics. ,
(21) Meeting facilities.
(22) Model homes, as permitted under section 25-4-5.
(23) Mortuaries.
(24) Museums.
(25) Neighborhood parks, playgrounds, tennis courts, swimming pools, and similar
neighborhood recreational areas and uses.
(26) Offices.
(27) Personal services.
(28) Photography studios.
(29) Public uses and structures, as permitted under section 25-4-11.
(30) Repair establishments, minor.
(3l) Restaurants.
(32) Retail establishments.
(33) Schools.
(34) Telecommunication antennas, as permitted under section 25-4-12.
(35) Theaters.
(36) Utility substations as permitted under Section 25-4-I 1.
(b) In addition to those uses permitted under subsection (a) above, the following uses may be
permitted in the CN district, provided that a use permit is issued for each use:
(t) Crematoriums.
(c) Buildings and uses normally considered directly accessory to the uses permitted in this sec-
tion shall also be permitted in the CN district.
Section 25-5.103. Height ?imit. The height limit in the CN district shall be fogy feet.
Section 25-5-104. Minimum building site area. The minimum building site area in the CN dis-
trict shall be seven thousand five hundred squaze feet.
Section 25.5-105. Minimum building site average width. Each building site in the CN district
shall have a minimum average width of sixty feet.
Section 25-5-106. M?oimum yards. The minimum yazds in the CN district shall be as follows:
(1) Front and rear yazds, fifteen feet; and
(2) Side yards, none, except where the adjoining building site is in a RS, RD, RM,
RCX or V district. Where the side yazd adjoins the side yard of a building site in
a RS, RD, RM, RCX or V district, there shall be a side yazd which conforms to the
side yazd requirements for dwelling use of the adjoining district.
Section 25-5-107. Landscaping of yards.
(a) All front yards in the CN district shall be landscaped, except for necessary access drives
and walkways.
(b) Where any required side or reaz yazd in the CN district adjoins a building site in a RS, RD,
RM or RCX district, the side or rear yard shall be landscaped with a screening hedge not
less than Forty-two inches in height, within five feet of the property line, except for neces-
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§2S-S-lOS HAWAII COGN1'Y CODE
sary drives and walkways.
Section 25-5-108. Other regulations.
(a) In conjunction with plan approval, the direc[or may require the construction of a continuous
eave overhanging the front property line in the CN district. The director may also require
that the eave be of similar height and design in any one block of the CN district.
(b) Plan approval shall be required for all new structures and additions to existing structures in
the CN district.
(c) Exceptions to the regulations for the CN district regarding heights, building site areas,
building site average widths and yards, may be approved by the director within a planned
unit development.
Division 11. CG, General Commercial Districts
Section 25-5-110. Purpose and applicability.
(a) The CG (general commercial) district applies to an area suitable for commercial uses and
services on a broad basis to serve as the central shopping or principal downtown area for a
city or a region.
(b) No CG district shall be established until there is a demonstrated need for such action and
no two CG districts shall be established in such relationship to each other that they cannot
act as one center and yet are too close together to serve two distinct regions.
Section 25.5-111. Designation of CG districts. Each CG (general commercial) district shall be
designated by the symbol "CG" followed by a number which indicates the minimum land area, in
thousands of square feet, required for each building site.
Section 25-5-112. Permitted uses.
(a) The following uses shall be permitted uses in the CG district:
(I) Adult day care homes.
(2) Amusement and recreation facilities, indoor.
(3) Art galleries, museums.
(4) Art studios.
(5) Automobile service stations.
(6) Automobile sales and rentals.
(7) Bars, nightclubs and cabarets.
(8) Bed and breakfast establishments, as permitted under section 25-4-7.
(9) Boarding facilities, rooming, or lodging houses, provided that the maximum den-
sity shall be one thousand two hundred fifty square feet of land area per rentable
unit or dwelling unit.
(l0) Broadcasting stations.
(LL) Business services.
(l2) Car washing, provided that if it is mechanized, sound attenuated structures or
sound attenuated walls shall be erected and maintained on the property lines.
(L3) Catering establishments.
(14) Cemeteries and mausoleums, as permitted under chapter 6, article 1 of this code.
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ZONING § 25-J-1 l 2
(l5) Churches, temples and synagogues.
(16) Cleaning plants using only non-flammable hydrocarbons in a sealed unit as the;
cleansing agent.
(17) Commercial parking lots and garages.
(l8) Community buildings, as permitted under section 25-4- 11.
(l9) Convenience stores.
(20) Crop production.
(2l) Day care centers.
(22) Display rooms for products sold elsewhere.
(23) Dwellings, double-family or duplex, provided that the maximum density shall be
one thousand two hundred fifty square feet of land area per rentable unit or dwell-
ing unit.
(24) Dwellings, multiple-family, provided that the maximum density shall be one thou-
sand two hundred fifty square feet of land area per rentable unit or dwelling unit.
(25) Dwellings, single-family.
(26) Equipment sales and rental yards, and other yards where retail products are dis-
played in the open.
(27) Family child care homes.
(28) Farmers markets. When the vending activity in a farmers mazket involves more
than just the sale of local fresh and/or raw produce, plant life, fish and local home-
grown and homemade products for more than two days a week, the director, at the
time of plan approval, shall restrict the hours of use, maintenance and operations
and may require improvements as determined appropriate to ensure its compatibil-
ity with the existing chazacter of the surrounding azea.
(29) Financial institutions.
(30) Group living facilities.
(3l) Home occupations, as permitted under section 25-4-13.
(32) Hospitals, sanitaziums, old age, convalescent, nursing and rest homes and other
similar uses.
(33) Hotels.
(34) Ice storage and dispensing facilities.
(35) Laboratories, medical and research.
(36) Laundries.
(37) Light manufacturing, processing and packaging, where the only retail sales outlet
for products produced is on the premises where produced.
(38) Medical clinics.
(39) Meeting facilities.
(40) Model homes, as permitted under section 25-4-8.
(4l) Mortuaries.
(42) Neighborhood parks, playgrounds, tennis courts, swimming pools, and similar
neighborhood recreationalazeas and uses.
(43) Offices.
(44) Personal services.
(45) Photography studios.
(4(~) Public uses and structures, as permitted under section 25-4-1 1.
(47) Printing shops, cartographing and duplicating processes such as blueprinting or
phocostating shops.
(48) Repair establishments, minor.
(49) Restaurants.
(50) Retail establishments.
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(51) Schools.
(52) Telecommunication antennas, as permitted under section 25-4-12.
(53) Theaters.
(54) Time share units.
(55) Utility substations, as permitted under section 25-4-1 1.
(56) Veterinary establishments
(b) In addition to those uses permitted under subsection (a) above, the following uses may be
permitted in the CG distric[, provided that a use permit is issued for each use:
(I) Crematoriums.
(2) Golf courses and related golf course uses, including golf driving ranges, golf main-
tenance buildings and golf club houses.
(3) Major outdoor amusement and recreation facilities.
(4) Yacht harbors and boating facilities.
(c) Residential uses in connection with the operation of any permitted use shall be permitted
in the CG district.
(d) Buildings and uses normally considered accessory to the uses permitted in this section shall
also be permitted in the CG district.
Section 25.5-113. Height limit.
(a) The height limit in the CG district shall be forty-five feet, except in those areas designated
in subsections (b) and (c) below.
(b) The height limit in the City of Hilo shall be one hundred twenty feet.
(c) The height limit in those areas in the North Kona district designated as high density urban
on the general plan land use pattern allocation guide (LUPAG) map shall be ninety feet.
Section 25-5-114. Minimum building site area. The minimum building site area in the CG dis-
trict shall be seven thousand five hundred square feet.
Section 25-5-115. Minimum building site average width. Each building site in the CG district
shall have a minimum building site average width of sixty feet.
Section 25-5-116. Minimum yards. The minimum yards in the CG district shall be as follows:
(1) Front or reaz yards, fifteen feet; and
(2) Side yazds, none, except where the adjoining building site is in a RS, RD, RM or
RCX district. Where the side yard adjoins the side yazd of a building site in a RS,
RD, RM or RCX district, there shall be a side yazd which conforms to the side yazd
requirements for dwelling use of the adjoining district.
Section 25-5-117. Landscaping of yards.
(a) All front yards in the CG district shall be landscaped, except for necessary access drives
and walkways.
(b) Where any required side or rear yard in the CG district adjoins a building site in a RS, RD,
RM or RCX district, the side or rear yard shall be landscaped with a screening hedge not
less than forty-two inches in height, within five feet of the property line, except for neces-
sary drives and walkways.
Ordinance Nn. 96-1601 amended (ry nrrntl 25-74