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Public Hearing
Honoka`a Complex, Multi -Purpose Room
45-541 Akia (Lehua) Street
Honoka`a, Hawai`i
April 2, 2019
CALL TO The public hearing of the Hawai`i County Charter Commission was called to
ORDER: order at 5:01 p.m., in Honoka`a by Mr. Douglass Shipman Adams, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Douglass Shipman Adams, Chair
Ms. Jennifer Zelko-Schlueter, Vice Chair
Mr. William Carthage Bergin, Commissioner
Ms. Michelle Galimba, Commissioner
Mr. Paul K. Hamano, Commissioner
Ms. Sarah H. Rice, Commissioner
Ms. Bobby Jean Leithead Todd, Commissioner
Absent:
Also Present:
Mr. Kevin D. Hopkins, Commissioner
Mr. Christopher John Imiloa Roehrig, Commissioner
Ms. Marcia A. K. Saquing, Commissioner
Ms. Donna Mae Springer, Commissioner
Mr. J Yoshimoto, Commission Attorney
Mr. Jon Henricks, Commission Analyst
Ms. Shannon Magnuson, Commission Secretary
CHR. ADAMS: Welcome to the Hawai`i County Charter Commission's Public
Hearing in Hamakua. I would ask you, I would ask all of us to please silence
our coms devices. I am pretty sure I did that. I am convening this hearing at 5:01
p.m. on Tuesday, April 2nd, 2019. This hearing will be recorded for the purpose
of developing minutes that will be available on the Commission's website which
is why I am speaking into a microphone but there are no speakers. The purpose
of this hearing is to receive testimony from the public regarding the work of the
Charter Commission to include proposed Charter Amendments that have achieved
first reading status.
At this time I would ask our Commissioners to briefly introduce themselves to
include identifying the district they have been appointed from, and I will start
with our Vice -Chair, Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter.
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MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: Good evening. Jennifer Zelko-Schlueter from the
Hilo district.
MS. TODD: Good evening. Bobby Leithead-Todd from district two in Hilo.
MS. RICE: Sally Rice, Kona.
MR. HAMANO: Paul Hamano, Hilo.
MS. GALIMBA: Michelle Galimba from Ka'u.
MR. BERGIN: Billy Bergin from Waimea (inaudible).
CHR. ADAMS: And I am Doug Adams from Hilo. So copies of the protocols for
this public hearing are available at the registration table or the area right there as
you walk in. To highlight just a few. We ask that you register to testify at the
registration table, or the area there. I will call speakers to the table. As you
prepare to speak, please state your name, any organization you are speaking for,
and the relevant Charter section or proposed amendment you are addressing.
Speakers will have up to a total of six minutes for their testimony. Speakers may
testify once during this public hearing.
To avoid the potential of Sunshine Law violations and to emphasize the purpose
of this hearing, Commissioners shall refrain from making comments or asking
questions of testifiers during their statements. I would ask all of us to please
maintain an appropriate level of decorum during the hearing. We are all looking
forward to providing an equal opportunity for all testifiers to make their
statements.
Finally, to provide some context for this hearing, allow me to briefly address the
Commission's efforts to date and what follows. First, this is the fifth Charter
Commission since the County Charter became effective 50 years ago. The
Commissioners, all of whom are County residents and none of whom are elected
officials by statute, were appointed by the Mayor and confirmed by the Council at
the end of June, 2018 and have met at least once a month since July to accomplish
our mission as the Charter outlines it. To study and review the operation of the
government of the County under the Charter. We have done that by receiving
information from County departments, the Mayor, and the Council, as well as
receiving over 500 communications from the public and County.
Second, since October, we have considered 27 different proposed Charter
Amendments to include changing the structure of terms for Council members,
refining the process by which the Public Access, Open Space, and Natural
Resources Preservation mission is accomplished, adding disciplining options for
the Council, the Fire Commission, and the Police Commission, establishing a
Disaster and Emergency Fund, and modifying minimum qualifications for
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FROM THE PUBLIC
Corporation Counsel, Fire Chief, and Public Work's Director. Information on
these proposals is available on the Commission website, the link to which can be
found on the County's homepage.
Third, we are convening six public hearings, one in each geographic district as
identified in the County Charter. This is our fourth Public Hearing of the six.
Following these hearings, we have until the end of June to submit to the County
Council a report on our activities, findings, and recommendations together with a
draft of the Proposed Charter Amendments. The Council has 30 days to return
the proposals with any alternatives to the Commission, after which within a
month, the Commission shall provide its final draft of proposed amendments to
the County Clerk. Ballot language on these Commissions will then be
developed... on these amendments will then be developed by the Commission for
submission to County voters for decision on the November 3rd, 2020 election
ballot.
At this time do we have any testifiers? Any speakers, anybody signed up? Okay.
Well, if we have no speakers then I would thank you all for coming, because this
is meant for us to listen to you, not for us to talk to you, so if we have no
speakers... okay.
CHR. ADAMS: Yes, if you would please sign in we will wait. Yup, that would
be great. Great and if you go here and use the mic, that way it makes it into the
minutes as well. Great. Thank you. Please provide your name, any organization,
and the area that you are speaking to.
ROB
CULBERTSON: Proposal No. CA -9 in support.
MR. CULBERTSON: Thank you Commissioners. My name is Rob Culbertson.
I live Pa'auilo. I am a member of several organizations. I am not representing
anybody in that capacity per say. I did want to speak to the PONC fund, so
called, and I guess CA -9 is one item that I support. And as I understand it, the
importance here is to be able to get somebody within the... and it may relate
maybe you can help me out, to the other item, CA -18, to get somebody in the
Department of Finance with the primary function being to administer that fund.
Also would like to be able to use that fund to empower and finance people who...
and, or non -profits that may be able to work the maintenance aspects of the lands
in some capacity. Can you... I don't see that listed here, but that is my concern.
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Is that under the... can you advise me if that is all contained within the CA -9
item? I haven't had a chance to read that.
CHR. ADAMS: The CA -9 and the CA -18 actually encompass largely what you
were addressing.
MR. CULBERTSON: Okay fine. I think that is the popular effort that I am
networking around the island with people who want that fund to be strong and to
be used as it is intended. Just parenthetically, you know I appreciate you guys
coming out today because otherwise there is a tendency to become cynical about
this process. This was driven from the grassroots and at least voted on twice over
several years and yet the effort to sort of manipulate if you will, either overtly or
covertly behind the scenes the resource and how you know, it is going to be
administered is troubling to some of us. So that is a perception, so you being here
tonight, obviously going around the island and getting a read directly from the
people who have worked on this and want the intent and integrity to be followed
through, that is the message I am here to restate and I join with other folks. That
is all I have to say.
CHR. ADAMS: Great. Thank you very much. Francine Roby.
FRANCINE ROBY: Proposal No. CA -17, commenting.
MS. ROBY: (Inaudible) area, I wanted to speak to the CA -17 one, Establishing...
Establishes New Disaster and Emergency Fund. I have attempted in my own area
to get a neighborhood watch going and I got myself trained with the County
CERT program (Community Emergency Response Team) and as best as I could
tell, I was really the only person from my area in Honoka`a and it is kind of
shocking to me that the whole town of Honoka`a doesn't even have a CERT team
and I have been kind of working with a group that is in Pa'auilo and mauka of
(inaudible) to learn you know, how they have come to develop a group of people
who go around and assess what their capacity is to respond to situations and you
know they are a model. They are a great model, but we have got nobody up in
this... I mean there is a much larger group of people here. So I think that any
additional support that the County can give for repairs, for cleanup, for response,
for infrastructure, for communication systems, radios, you know, repeaters, that
kind of thing is critical because as we all know you know, one tree goes down and
everybody who thinks that their family is going to come rescue them, well that is
out the window. And we have seen a whole lot more you know, flooding that has
been happening these substantial rains that have come day after day, after day,
when the grounds can't even dry out and from what we know from the scientists
at U.H. (University of Hawai`i) Hilo and everywhere, you know, we are expecting
climate to continue to change and there to be increasing erratic heavier storms.
We have had some very substantial storms that we barely escaped you know the
last few years during hurricane season and we just can't overlook this stuff. We
know the roads you know is a whole separate category of people taking care of
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the roads, but the response specifically to disaster and emergency fund really I
think needs to be amped up. The County Civil Defense Team was so overtaxed
with the lava response here. I just don't think they could get around to do
anything else and the people that are involved I work with Bobbi (inaudible) with
neighborhood watch and she is wonderful but she is one person and we have got a
lot of territory and we just you know, without improving the communication and
outreach we have to potential community members that are on the CERT teams,
the citizens are just... can't even be tapped to come into this relationship to help
bolster, so if the County's funds can help with some of that outreach,
infrastructure, administrative network that is now trying to be handled by
volunteers and can't be, then we might be able to be a little further ahead with
what we know is going to be more and more severe weather and crumbling
infrastructure -bridges, you know, all these little go across bridges and we have got
more people moving in with a giant you know, cargo vehicle that is coming
across these little bridges and these things are not going to hold up, so I really
support you, you know, creating this slight additional taxation that might be able
to build up these funds. Thank you.
CHR. ADAMS: (inaudible)
PETE SPARKS: Commenting on County maps of Ahualoa.
MR. SPARKS: My name is Pete Sparks. I am Francine's neighbor and all I
really have to say at this point is that if there is money available for this, some of
it may be used to update the County maps. I live in Ahualoa. I have hiked all
through there. The County maps are wrong. I live on a paper road. It stops
above my house. I maintain it myself. During the recent Zika outbreak a year or
two ago there were maps posted on the interne. I saw these things with my own
eyes, that showed how we were attacking the Zika and where the mosquitoes were
and on those maps it shows you could drive with a regular sedan right up past my
house through the guava thicket across Kuilei Gulch, take a left at Puaono Road,
drive all the way through Ahualoa to Kalehua Drive. You cannot do this. You
cannot do it in a bulldozer. Kuilei Gulch is 30 feet deep. Nienie Gulch, I have
been down in the bottom and out the other side, is like 90 feet deep and the map
show this is possible. If we are ever... it is one thing to be chasing mosquitoes
with maps that are incorrect, but if we are trying to fight a big fire or do some
kind of evacuation because a tanker truck full of chlorine gas fell over on the
highway, we are in big trouble. Thank you very much.
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CHR. ADAMS: Thank you sir. It appears we have no more speakers. 1 would
like to thank all the testifiers for their statements, the Commissioners for your
attention, and the staff for your efforts in helping us convene this hearing.
Our next public hearing will be held tomorrow, Wednesday, April 3rd, at 5:00
p.m. at the West Hawai`i Civic Center, Kona Council Chambers, 75-5044 Ane
Keohokalole Highway, in Kona. Just so I understand, are we video, VTC (Video
Teleconferencing) that also from the Hilo chambers? Right, so that... it is also
available for folks that would like to go to the Hilo County Council Chambers.
They will be able to review it from there. I would ask all to please drive safely
and thank you all for coming.
Commission Approval: April 25, 2019
Mr. ss Shipman Adams, Chair
2018-2020 Hawai`i County Charter Commission
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