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ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAIʻI
MEETING MINUTES
Wednesday, May 27, 2020
9:26 a.m. to 11:26 a.m.
(online meeting via Zoom video conferencing)
Commissioners present:
Justin Pequeño, Chair
Georjean Adams
John Burns
Melissa Cardwell
Dee Fulton
Rick Gaffney
Staff present:
Diana Mellon-Lacey, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Mary Fujio, Secretary
Others present: Jerome Warren, Sandra Demoruelle, Councilmember Tim Richards, Lee
McIntosh, and others.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Pequeño called the meeting to order at 9:26 a.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 26, 2020
Motion and second: Commissioner Adams moved to approve the minutes, but with a
correction. Commissioner Gaffney seconded the motion.
Discussion: Commissioner Adams said a correction was needed on page 8, the third
bullet point from the top, regarding the Master Recycler Program. The wording should be
corrected to reflect that the program does not yet exist but is under development.
Motion, second, and vote: Commissioner Adams moved to approve the minutes with
the correction, Commissioner Gaffney seconded the motion, and all commissioners voted aye.
3. STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR
Chair Pequeño thanked everyone for participating in the commission’s first virtual
meeting. Good sources to keep updated on the coronavirus are the County’s website and
Vibrant Hawaiʻi, which has an excellent repository of sources and informa?on. A lot has
happened since the commission’s last meeting, and he is excited for them to be resuming.
4. PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
Jerome Warren: He was participating using his home telephone. His commissioner is
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Lee McIntosh, who is a friend and neighbor. However, his attempts to discuss the Nāālehu ʻ
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sewer project have been brushed off. OKK has also brushed off his attempts to discuss it. OKK
is a political organization that needs a big sewer plant to achieve their agenda. However, they
are keeping their plans secret. He is also friends and neighbors with another person who is
infinitely more qualified than Commissioner McIntosh. However, she is not an OKK member.
She and he are both in the phone book, but they are ignored by everybody. All commissioners
must consider the integrity of the commission as a body.
Councilmember Tim Richards: He said he just wanted to let them know he was there to
listen and observe.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Continued discussion on alternative uses for waste (i.e., waste-to-energy,
reclaimed water, etc.)
Commissioner Adams said she had requested BioEnergy Hawaiʻi to make a presenta?on
to them, but they have been too busy. In the future they may be willing to do so, but right now
they do not want to come before the commission.
Commissioner Cardwell spoke about how she is 100% against incinerators, and they
should be taken off the table. She attended a presentation on it and has been reading articles,
and they absolutely should not be considered. If the goal is to move towards zero waste, the
amount of trash we produce needs to be decreased. She does not want incineration to be
pursued any more, as it is absurd.
Commissioner Adams said the concept of incineration gets used too broadly, and it can
be a temporary option to deal with high energy valued waste. There are other technologies out
there, and she will be sending them background on some of the different possibilities. Also, the
Solid Waste Advisory Committee, in working on the Solid Waste Management Plan,
recommended renegotiation of the contract with Waste Management, because they are in the
same process as H-Power. They get paid by the ton, so when the trash goes down they make
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Note: Mr. McIntosh attended the meeting as a member of the public, as he had not yet taken his oath of office.
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O Kaū Kʻākou.
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less money. A key recommendation in the Solid Waste Management Plan is to get out of that
mode and instead work with Waste Management to come up with better ways to manage
waste or turn it into resources. She would like the commissioners to think broadly and not just
consider anything at high temperatures incineration.
Commissioner Burns asked Commissioner Cardwell for clarification on the term
incineration, and she responded that she includes pyrolysis and things like that in the term. At
the presentation she attended, she learned none of these methods are good.
Commissioner Burns said he was concerned about a blanket removal of discussion of all
forms of potential gasification. Researchers are working on developing methodology that could
be extremely clean in the future.
Commissioner Cardwell said many people have been trying to grow their own food
lately, which should be supported. She is concerned that some of the greenwaste facilities
have been shut down during the pandemic. Commissioner Gaffney said DEM has been having
staffing issues, but the primary greenwaste processing facility at Puʻuanahulu is open,
functioning, and has massive piles of processed greenwaste available to citizens right now.
Commissioner Cardwell said the waste composition study done years ago showed that
33% of the county’s waste is organic, which is a huge chunk. She would like to know the status
of the composting facility that is to be built, as she has several questions about it.
Commissioner Adams agreed that because the volume of organic waste is high, it should
be focused on. A collection system is needed, and there are other issues.
Chair Pequeño asked Councilmember Tim Richards, who was present, if he had
information for them.
Councilmember Richards said he has been informed the percentage of organic waste is
closer to 50%. If half the waste stream were removed, it would have a great impact on the
landfill. He likes the direction and tone of the commission’s conversation.
Chair Pequeño said they could benefit from further discussion and research on
incineration, reclamation of energy, and the capacity of the landfill.
Commissioner Cardwell said there needs to be a shift in the current structure of dealing
with waste—that if there is less waste, there is less money. Very little money was given for the
zero waste plan written in 2009. If they are serious about moving to zero waste, funding has to
be found. She wants clarification from the director about the solid waste fund and the contract
with Business Services Hawaiʻi. She was unsure whether the commission had ever followed up
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on the letter they were to send to the County Council about the recycling budget.
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Note: On March 23, 2020, the commission sent a letter to Council Chair Aaron Chung, urging the Council to take
measures to protect and enhance the County’s recycling budget.
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Chair Pequeño explained that Director Kucharski and Deputy Director Noda had to meet
with the mayor this morning, but the director did provide him some informal updates. He is
hopeful they can delve deeper into this at the June meeting.
Commissioner Gaffney wanted to emphasize the importance of organic material and
compost on the Big Island, as it is young and made primarily of lava rock rather than soil.
Composted materials are essential to successful gardening for those living in rocky areas.
Multiple composting sites are needed in the long term so people can travel reasonable
distances to acquire the materials essential for them to garden.
Commissioner Fulton asked if Councilmember Richards could comment on this.
Councilmember Richards said he is supportive and likes what he is hearing, but the
budget situation is terrible right now and won’t get better soon. These are the kinds of ideas,
however, he wants the commission to talk about. He would like them to help him flesh out
these ideas going forward, but the money to accomplish things won’t happen this year. He is
open to conversations with commissioners.
Commissioner Fulton asked if the Council has resources to explore public-private
partnerships and alternative sources of funding so the county doesn’t always have to take on
more debt. Councilmember Richards said the short answer is no. He is hoping that through the
CARES Act some assistance will be provided on infrastructure. However, he would like the
commission to come up with ideas on alternative sources of funding and help him flesh them
out.
Commissioner Cardwell said that regarding mulch, it might be good if people had to pay
a small fee for it. A fee might help decrease the cost of people having to haul mulch far
distances, as she supports the idea of having multiple composting facilities.
Commissioner Adams said there are projects out there for distributed compost
collection systems, to bring them closer to people and cut out the transportation cost, and
perhaps someone could touch base with Zero Waste and Recycle Hawaiʻi to make a
presentation.
Chair Pequeño said he would make a note of that and would keep this agenda item for
the next meeting.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Discussion on U.S. Supreme Court ruling on County of Maui vs. Hawaiʻi Wildlife
Fund and its potential impacts on the County of Hawaiʻi.
Chair Pequeño noted the commissioners received a letter from Kona Waterkeeper
written by Dr. Rick Bennett regarding the ruling, and also that a letter to the editor of the Star
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Advertiser was written by a Kona resident who said the County of Hawaiʻi’s plants have similar
operations to the Lahaina plant.
Commissioner Gaffney said the Supreme Court’s decision is a huge topic being discussed
throughout the state. The bottom line is that Maui County has essentially been told they can
no longer use groundwater as a dumping point because of its clear connection to the ocean. It
is a violation of the Clean Water Act to dump barely treated sewage into the groundwater. The
ruling has a direct impact here, because the Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant is putting
1.8 million gallons per day into an open pit which is basically a lava tube that is .6 of a mile from
Honokōhau Harbor. The USGS and others put tracers in the sump behind the Kealakehe Police
Station, and it is clear the water is moving directly under the ocean. There are also other places
on our island that likely have similar violations of the Clean Water Act. The Honokaʻa sewage
plant uses injection wells less than a half mile from the ocean, which is a clear violation. There
are also private examples, such as the Mauna Lani Resort, which uses injection wells close to
the ocean. This is a major issue for the commission and for the Environmental Management
Department. It is his strong hope that Hawaiʻi County will not take the same attitude as Maui
County, which argued that it was okay to do what they were doing in Lahaina despite it being
pointed out as wrong at various court levels. It is clear that what Hawaiʻi County is doing is
wrong, but the county could decide to do what Maui County did, which is to continue to fight it.
This would be wrong in several ways. It would be a violation of the public trust if our elected
officials were to allow what is a clear violation of the Clean Water Act to continue. It would also
be a clear violation of the Clean Water Act itself, and therefore potentially very expensive for
the county to continue to do. Lastly, it is just flat wrong. It is not pono to be taking water
resources, polluting them, and pumping them into the ocean. For all these reasons, it is
incumbent on the commission to push very hard on the county, elected representatives, mayor,
and administration to do the right thing and proceed to solutions rather than argue that the law
does not need to be followed because the county is not doing what Maui was doing, or because
the Ninth Circuit has not been heard from regarding the solution to the Supreme Court’s ruling.
It is time for this to be taken on.
The commissioners discussed what approach to take to put pressure on the county.
Commissioner Gaffney felt a multi-pronged approach was needed. The commissioners should
communicate with their respective councilmembers, with DEM, and with the administration,
and they should get the word out to the public to educate them on why it is wrong and has to
be fixed. The common thing for the county to do is hire a consulting firm like Brown and
Caldwell and ask them to come up with solutions. However, this has led the county to the
current situation with the Pāhala and Nāālehu treatment plantsʻ, and it may not be the best
solution. The county has not seemed to grasp the opportunities presented by public-private
partnerships. This is a solution-oriented presentation that needs to be made to the County
Council and administration continuously so that the county can get to the point where they can
provide reclaimed water, upgrade it to the point where it is legal for reuse, and create the
necessary distribution lines.
Motion and second: Commissioner Fulton moved that a letter be sent to
Councilmember Richards and the County Council, requesting they invite private entities in to
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discuss a public-private partnership for wastewater treatment at the Kealakehe Wastewater
Treatment Plant. Commissioner Adams seconded the motion.
Discussion: Commissioner Gaffney said what they want the Council to do is look into
creating recycled/reclaimed water. The county is already managing wastewater treatment, but
what is needed is a legally usable reclaimed water resource.
Commissioner Burns said it is also important to make known the various options that
are available. For instance, going down the path of an NPDES permit is an option. It would be
good for people to be aware of the numerous complications that lie in the permit system.
NPDES is designed to monitor point sources of discharge, which is not what the county has.
This is arguably what led to the Supreme Court case, which had to address this unique scenario
where waste leaks permeate through porous basalt substrate and into the ocean through
submarine groundwater discharges. While there are some mechanisms in place to deal with
this, they are not adequately designed for our situation. It would be helpful to seek a public-
private partnership or some mechanism where you remove the actions that are in violation. So
if the county were recycling the water, or for all intents and purposes avoiding injecting the
waste, whereas now we are using a mechanism that is exceptionally difficult to monitor for a
permit, the county would be covering all bases but not injecting the waste into the
groundwater. It is a knee-jerk reaction to think you just need permits and are good to go. That
will always be problematic, as there are not many monitoring mechanisms designed for the
type of water systems we have in Hawaiʻi.
Commissioner Adams said the county needs a general water management plan.
Holistically the bottom line is zero waste, whether it is liquid or solid waste. Reusing the water
and keeping it clean enough for appropriate use, with a price that is affordable, is the goal.
Chair Pequeño said there is a water plan, but it is only for drinking water. The issue of a
plan for reclaimed water is complicated and a gray area. Once DEM starts distributing
reclaimed water as planned, then it will be a supplier of water and there is an opportunity to
overlap or connect with the Department of Water Supply, which does not at this time have
reclaimed water in their purview.
Commissioner Burns said the island has an extremely complex hydrological system. The
ʻIke Wai Project has taken many samples and has found that it is very difficult to trace the
movement of water because of the nature of the island and the interaction between fresh and
salt water. The difficulty of an NPDES permit is partly why there aren’t more of them. There
should be a direct focus on how to get around the violation of the legal rule without having to
rely on permits that are not designed to detect and trace the outflow. Something creative is
needed, but it needs to be clear that monitoring is extremely difficult, so just eliminating the
problem is going to be the best approach.
Chair Pequeño felt the commission’s first attempt should be with DEM, and from there
send a letter through Director Kucharski to the Council, asking for resources and support in
setting up a plan.
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Commissioner Gaffney agreed, as the commission is basically set up to provide advice to
both the Council and the administration. The commission’s outreach should be to both the
administration and Council in equal shares. Sending the letter through the director would
formalize their approach to the administration, and then sending it to the chair of the
Agriculture, Water, Energy, and Environmental Management Committee would formalize it as a
recommendation from them to the Council.
The commissioners decided on sending a letter simultaneously to the director and
Council rather than one before the other, in order to speed up the process.
Commissioner Gaffney said his experience since being on the commission is that DEM is
not thinking about anything other than continuing the process they’re undertaking. The latest
changes to the Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant continue to show the sump being used
in perpetuity, which is wrong. There is no attempt to do anything other than that. Numerous
attempts have been made to get DEM to reach out to private operators here who have
indicated an interest in assisting the county with wastewater management, but nothing has
happened. The commission should approach the Council and administration on this matter and
start the ball rolling. Roy Takemoto, the managing director, has been assigned the
development of a water reuse plan but has been busy with the pandemic and cleaning up from
the eruption. Research and Development should also be part of the process, but they are
similarly busy and playing catch-up. However, this issue is a priority of the community and in
particular, a priority of the commission.
Chair Pequeño said Director Kucharski did indicate that the design of the Kealakehe R-1
upgrade is on hold pending the decision of the Supreme Court. However, he agrees that a
letter to both the director and Council simultaneously would be effective. The others agreed.
Chair Pequeño asked if Commissioner Fulton could withdraw and revise her motion.
Motion revised, seconded, and vote: Commissioner Fulton revised her motion such that
they send the letter simultaneously to Director Kucharski and the County Council.
Commissioner Cardwell seconded the motion, and all commissioners voted aye.
The commissioners discussed who would draft the letter.
Motion, second, and vote: Commissioner Adams moved to establish a subcommittee
consisting of Chair Pequeño and Commissioners Gaffney and Fulton to draft the letter.
Commissioner Cardwell seconded the motion, and all commissioners voted aye.
Chair Pequeño said the subcommittee will report back at the next meeting. He also
suggested the commissioners check out the Sierra Club’s Facebook page, as it has a lot of
information on the case and includes presentations by attorneys.
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b. Discussion on possible funding mechanisms for the Solid Waste Division to
improve the quality of services.
Commissioner Adams recommended the commissioners peruse the Solid Waste
Advisory Committee’s recommendations in the Solid Waste Management Plan. Right now,
DEM makes money from the tipping fees and some from the General Fund and property tax.
The ideal would be to have a good mechanism to use financial incentive to reduce waste. Most
citizens have no clue how much it really costs to dispose of the waste they generate.
Commissioner Cardwell said she would like to have a discussion on the possibility of
having a tourism tax or some way to make money from the trash generated by the tourism
industry. It may be worth exploring.
Commissioner Pequeño said that could be a part of this agenda item, which he would
table to the next meeting since they needed Director Kucharski to be present.
c. Discussion on the recommendations in the draft 2019 Integrated Solid Waste
Management Plan Update.
Commissioner Adams said the Solid Waste Advisory Committee had 82
recommendations in the SWMP. One of the reasons she wanted to be a commissioner is to
hold DEM’s feet to the fire to follow through on the recommendations. Director Kucharski was
to report to them on the status of following the recommendations.
Commissioner Cardwell said there has been a lot more trash on the road lately, which is
why she is in support of curbside pick-up. Although it would be difficult in a lot of places, it
should work in Hawaiian Paradise Park, which is a grid, and it would drastically reduce the
amount of road trash.
Commissioner Adams said DEM is facing staffing challenges in having enough people to
just keep the transfer stations open. The SWAC did talk about curbside collection and pay-as-
you-throw, both of which have various challenges. The idea is that trash and recycling need to
be made very easy.
Chair Pequeño said they would table this item until their next meeting, when Director
Kucharski could be present.
7. REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE
Chair Pequeño said Director Kucharski had sent him informal updates since he couldn’t
attend the meeting, so he would read them off.
(1) Status of the Pāhala and Nāālehu Wastewater Treatment Plantsʻ: The Pāhala EA
FONSI is final, and work is commencing on the land purchase and AOC
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modifications due to State Historic Preservation Division and other delays. The
Nāālehu EA is in progress. ʻ
At this time, Chair Pequeño allowed Sandra Demoruelle to testify on this agenda item.
Ms. Demoruelle: She has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the adequacy of the
environmental assessment and the finding of no significant impact. The county ignored over
900 pages of comments, which are in a whole separate volume. None of the information
provided in the EA is substantiated by scientific information. The waste flow volume of 190,000
gallons is pulled out of the air with nothing to substantiate it. She is now in litigation and
settlement negotiations so cannot talk about it, but she wants them to know both projects are
under litigation. She is suing the EPA for the lack of an EIS provided under NEPA. If need be,
she will file under the state if that is what is required to force the county directly to do an
adequate environmental review. Anyone who looks at this can see for themselves it is highly
controversial as to flow volume and flooding in the area, and as to whether an industrial
wastewater treatment plant is even needed. The septic conversion for the third project, for the
Pāhala seniors, went for $410,000. Now they have almost $10 million available just for the
design of the Nāālehu project. She would point to the CIP budget and enormous numbers ʻ
there just for design. These folks are going crazy with spending money on Brown and Caldwell,
and they need to be stopped. That is why she has filed suit.
Commissioner Cardwell asked Ms. Demoruelle for clarification on whether she had filed
a lawsuit regarding both plants. Ms. Demoruelle said yes, because what triggers the NEPA was
the grant that had been given by EPA, which is still in effect. The grant was awarded for one
project, the Nāālehu and Pāhala Villages Large Capacity Cesspool Conversion Project. In 2011 it ʻ
got divided into two projects, and somewhere along the line it got changed from doing a simple
septic conversion to expensive industrial capacity wastewater treatment plants. She withdrew
her original lawsuit as it was premature. In May 2019 the EPA and county changed the grant
over from Nāālehu to Pāhala, changing coursesʻ again. That is the nature of the lawsuit, which
anyone can look up online.
Chair Pequeño continued with Director Kucharski’s informal updates.
(2) Status of the Kealakehe Wastewater Treatment Plant R-1 Upgrade Project: The
design is on hold pending the Supreme Court decision and its impact. The R-1
plant has an additional design to expand recycle quantity from Qfrom 1.8 mgd
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to 3.6 mgd. There is a design contract being reestablished for the North and
South Q distribution pipelines. The EIS effort is ongoing. The Archeological
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Inventory Survey was completed and submitted to SHPD on May 20, 2020, and
SHPD is expected to take potentially one year to review and accept the AIS. The
EIS is to be completed three months after SHPD approval of the AIS.
Commissioner Fulton said that although the laterals that feed into the Aliʻi Drive sewer
line are technically not the purview of the county, they can be a source of leaks, infiltration, and
exfiltration. There is a significant algae bloom going on in Kailua Bay, and there is an aerial
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photo taken by a drone that captures the scope of how large the algae bloom is. Though there
may be other contributors to the algae bloom, there is a high index of suspicion that one of the
laterals feeding into the King Kamehameha Hotel wet well needs repair. It can be seen that the
quality of the bay is significantly impaired. She would love to have more research done to
determine the sources of the nitrogen feeding into the bay and to confirm whether a
wastewater source is contributing to the bloom.
(3) Status of sewer inflow and infiltration on Aliʻi Drive: The department is
investigating potential I&I from connected facilities to the county’s collection
system. Modification to the County Code can allow the Wastewater Division to
require testing and repair of private collection system failures.
(4) Status of implementation of the Integrated Solid Waste Management Plan: The
plan is not yet finalized, and the implementation of the recommendations being
reviewed will not commence before the plan has been finalized and funding
made available.
Chair Pequeño asked Commissioner Adams if it was correct that funding will be
requested and attached to specific recommendation items, and she said yes. She explained
that the public comment period is closed, and there is a link to the plan on DEM’s website.
8. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Chair Pequeño told the commissioners to email him and the secretary if they had any
items they wanted on the agenda.
Ms. Mellon-Lacey pointed out that one of the tasks of the commission is to hear any
appeals of the director’s decisions. These may start to happen, because notice of connection
letters have gone out to people in Lono Kona to connect to the new sewer line. Some of them
are asking for exemptions or objecting because of the high cost or for other reasons, so there
may be appeals that get referred to the commission. As the commission has not dealt with an
appeal and there are several new commissioners, she would like to do another training soon.
Chair Pequeño said that was a great suggestion.
Commissioner Cardwell said she wanted to hear from the director on the status of the
composting facility, as she read it was supposed to be finished by the end of the year.
Commissioner Fulton wanted to hear about the status of the coronavirus in wastewater,
though it may not be in their purview.
9. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Pequeño announced that the next meeting is June 24, 2020, at a location to be
determined or online.
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10. ADJOURNMENT
Motion, second, and vote: Commissioner Cardwell moved to adjourn, Commissioner Fulton seconded the motion, and all commissioners voted aye.
The meeting adjourned at 11:26 a.m.
Respectfully submitted:
Mary E. Fujio, Secretary (with her signature)