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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN CHARTER 2020-07-10 (2018-2020)Hawaii County Charter Commission 15th Session Council Chambers, Hawai`i County Building 25 Aupuni Street, Ste. 1401 Hilo, Hawai`i July 10, 2020 CALL TO The regular meeting of the Hawai`i County Charter Commission was called to ORDER: order at 10:01 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. Douglass Shipman Adams, Chair. ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Douglass Shipman Adams, Chair Ms. Jennifer Zelko-Schlueter, Vice Chair Mr. William Carthage Bergin, Commissioner Mr. Paul K. Hamano, Commissioner Mr. Kevin D. Hopkins, Commissioner Ms. Sarah H. Rice, Commissioner (via videoconference from Kona) Mr. Christopher John Imiloa Roehrig, Commissioner (via videoconference from Kona) Ms. Marcia A. K. Saquing, Commissioner Ms. Donna Mae Springer, Commissioner Ms. Bobby Jean Leithead Todd, Commissioner Absent: Also Present: Ms. Michelle Galimba, Commissioner Mr. J Yoshimoto, Commission Attorney Mr. Jon Henricks, Commission Analyst Ms. Shannon Magnuson, Commission Secretary Mr. Scott Ruedy, Dep. Executive Assistant to Council Chair (Kona Courtesy Site) CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Thank you. Seeing that it is, at least on my watch, 10:01, let's um... and we have everyone here, which I am most grateful for. Let me welcome back the 2018-2020 Hawai`i County Charter Commission, to its 15th session. The... it is 10:01 and we are, I would just remind everyone to please place your variety of gizmos on... which is a technical term of course, on silence or stun and I would also let the folks here in Hilo know that we do have water and coffee, and a few items over on the table over there, so feel free at any particular point when you so desire, to get something. I am sure everybody knows where the restrooms are. Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 I would ask all of us to please speak up. I would ask Kona if you can understand me fairly well. Okay. I am getting head nod, so I guess that's a good thing. Alright, and so, I would also remind us to speak into our microphones and turn them on for the purposes of recording and also for the purposes of... MR. ROEHRIG: Can't hear you. CHR. ADAMS: Talking to Kona. Kit? MR. ROEHRIG: Can't hear you. CHR. ADAMS: Hello. MS. RICE: We can't hear you. We can hear your voice, but we can't hear what you are saying. CHR. ADAMS: You can't hear what I am saying? Now you can? MS. RICE: There. Much better. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. So what that means is that for the purposes of our conversation here, for the most part you guys could hear me but they could not understand what I was saying, which may or may not be a good thing. So I think that probably means that we take our masks off when we are speaking into the microphones, so that our fellow members in Kona can understand us, and that would go the same for them. Speak into the microphone for us. Okay. Alright. Thanks for everyone coming on a relatively moment's notice. I appreciated that everybody was willing to show up when it became clear that we needed to finish up what we were doing and so, let's move forward. If I could as our Analyst slash County Clerk to please call the roll. MR. HENRICKS: Mr. Bergin (here), Ms. Galimba, Mr. Hamano (here), Mr. Hopkins(here), Ms. Leithead Todd (here), Ms. Rice (here), Mr. Roehrig (here), Ms. Saquing (here), Ms. Springer (here), Ms. Zelko-Schlueter (here), Chair Adams (present). Chair you have 10 members in attendance. CHR. ADAMS: Thank you. Ten members of the Commission are present and Commissioner Galimba who is excused. Page 2 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS: DWIGHT VICENTE: The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, Statements from the Public on Agenda Items. CHR. ADAMS: Alright, at this time we will take any statements that we may have from the public on agenda items. I understand that we have at least one testifier here in Hilo. I would remind our testifiers that they have three minutes, please to provide their name and the agenda item upon which they are speaking. Let me just ask Kona if we have any testifiers in Kona. MR. RUEDY: Good morning Chair, we do not have any testifiers here in Kona today. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Thank you. So if we can hear from our testifier in Hilo please. MR. BROWN: Good morning Chair, we have Dwight Vicente who will be speaking on Communication No. 53.2 and Communication No. 53.3. Please state your name Dwight, and then go for it. Communication Nos. 53.2 and 53.3, commenting MR. VICENTE: Good Morning, my name is Dwight Vicente. I am representing the Hawaiian Kingdom. A point of order dealing with the preamble to the County Charter. It reads "we the people of the county of Hawai`i in the State of Hawai`i with due respect for and in support of laws of the land and do adopt this charter of the county of Hawai`i, State of Hawai`i." They use the term in the State of Hawai`i. If you are speaking in the State of Hawai`i they must be limited to the Hawaiian Home Lands which is one million seven hundred fifty thousand acres only. There was illegally ceded by the banana republic in 1898 to the United States and incorporated in Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2, and I should add that how it is written, it is actually Northwest Ordinance under the Articles of Confederation because they... their action is based on the Northwest Ordinance of 17... July, 1787. The Constitution was not adopted until September, 1787. And in your Article 1, Section 1-2, Geographical Limits, it says the whole island... the State Supreme Court already ruled in State vs. Jim, that the County and ... State of Hawai`i and County of Hawai`i is Hawaiian Homes. So the whole island is not Hawaiian Homes. I hear people talk about roads in limbo, well, all those lands are in limbo. If the roads are in limbo, the lands are in limbo because those lands were not ceded by the banana republic in 1898. So the lands in question is the lease lands. There is over 2.2 million acres under King Kalakaua that was leased out for 25 years that would bring them up to 1915. So they weren't leased up, ah, ceded in 1898. Then you got Article 1, Section 3- 3, Qualification. It says "the person must be a citizen of the U.S.", but if you read the last page on the Admission Act, it says "this Act does not change the Page 3 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 nationality or give you nationality." And the Hawaiian Homes qualification is by blood quantum based on the Articles of Confederation, Northwest Ordinance. MR. BROWN: Thirty seconds. MR. VICENTE: Articles of Confederation, it does not... it creates a status under the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act by blood quantum, not nationality. It said you have to be a U.S. citizen, many people are not qualified under that because they are neither native Hawaiian under the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act or citizens of the several states under Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, of the U.S. Constitution. So this is all a point of order that ah... you need to seriously look into because eventually it will reach the court and the court will have to decide again like in State vs. Jim. Thank you. CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Mr. Vicente. Are there any other testifiers? MR. BROWN: There are no other testifiers Chair. CHR. ADAMS: Thank you. APPROVAL OF The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, MINUTES: Approval of Minutes. CHR. ADAMS: Alright, moving on to approval of minutes. The regular meeting minutes of August 8, 2019 were provided in the packets that you all received plus they are in digitally... plus they are in the packets that we have here. I would entertain a motion to approve the minutes of August 8, 2019. MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: So moved. CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second? MR. BERGIN: Second. CHR. ADAMS: It has been moved by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by Commissioner Bergin to approve the minutes of August 8, 2019. Any discussion, corrections, or modifications to the minutes? Any from Kona? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, please signify by saying "aye" (aye). Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously with Commissioner Galimba excused. How is that Mr. Clerk? Alright. It's been a while folks. Page 4 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 Vote on Motion Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter moved to approve the minutes of To Approve Minutes: August 8, 2019. Seconded by Commissioner Bergin and carried (Approved) by the following voice vote: COMMUNI- CATIONS: Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams —10 Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Galimba —1 Excused: None. The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, Communications. CHR. ADAMS: Alright, Communications. Moving on to Communications on the agenda, Communication No. 57, Discussion on Voter Education as Submitted by Chair Adams. Remind me, do we vote to accept this Communication? We just move through into... MR. HENRICKS: The motion is to close and file. CHR. ADAMS: Alright. I would entertain a motion to close and file Communication No. 57. MR. HOPKINS: So moved. CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second? MS. SAQUING: Second. CHR. ADAMS: Moved by Commissioner Hopkins, seconded by Commissioner Saquing. Discussion? Why yes, there is discussion. So let's have a little bit of discussion. So in the Communication itself, I wanted to try and have this conversation here as opposed to next meeting because next meeting we are going to be pretty busy talking about the content of the report which we will not get into today. So from an education perspective, we have the newspaper's information that we will be putting out. We also have potential social media that we will be putting out. We have budget, we do have funds that have been budgeted to the Charter Commission for this activity. The final product, our questions are due to the State Elections office? Page 5 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 MR. HENRICKS: By August 20th of this year. CHR. ADAMS: Okay, by August 20th. There are two dates, one is in HRS (Hawai`i Revised Statutes) and the other one is in our Charter. The August 20th is the earlier of those dates. MR. HENRICKS: The August 20th is for the ballot language to be submitted to the Chief Elections Officer of the State. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. MR. HENRICKS: The two dates that you are referring to are for requirements to publish the full text of the proposed amendments and brief digest in two newspapers of circulation, and those dates are 45 days before the General Election pursuant to the Charter, and 21 days before the General Election pursuant to HRS (Hawai`i Revised Statutes). CHR. ADAMS: And so for the purposes, for the Commission's understanding, once we have finished our work with the ballot questions, then we will... we already, the Charter Amendment Proposals themselves, the substance of those are complete. However, in the ballot question process, the ballot question development process, we did consolidate some of the charter amendments that were seen and provided to the Council that they then reviewed and then that we then voted on back in August and provided to the Clerk. So those numbers and the consolidation of that will then be finalized in one of our meetings probably likely the next one, and then that will allow the Clerk to go through the process of making sure that we meet our responsibilities of getting the full text out to the voters 45 days and 21 days in front of the November 3rd election. Okay, so I just wanted to let the Commission know all about that. We will do what we are supposed to do in terms of the votes and all of those kinds of things. I would entertain a motion, it's... I am informed by our staff that it is probably not necessary but I think it is probably useful for the record, that the Commission authorize the Chair to spend the funds necessary to conduct the educational aspects that is our responsibility under the Charter and the HRS (Hawai`i Revised Statutes). So I would entertain a motion to authorize the Chair to conduct that... those activities and expend the funds necessary that is in our budget. MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: So moved. MS. RICE: Could you repeat that. We didn't get that. It was kind of muddled. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. There being in Kona. MS. RICE: In Kona. Page 6 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 CHR. ADAMS: Sorry. So the purpose of the motion that has been made without a second at the moment, is to authorize the Chair to expend the funds in the process of conducting the educational awareness responsibilities of the Commission prior to the General Election. MS. RICE: Thank you. CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second? MR. HAMANO: Second. CHR. ADAMS: So it has been moved by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by Commissioner Hamano. Does anyone have any comments or discussions associated with that motion? Commissioner Hopkins. Make sure you speak into the mic sir. MR. HOPKINS: Okay. Just a little clarification on this, that you will authorize it, but staff will actually be the ones doing the spending correct? CHR. ADAMS: Yes. MR. HOPKINS: I don't know... okay, I am not familiar with the procedure. I was just... okay. Thank you. MR. HENRICKS: What I think the Chair is asking for now is just some ability as your Chair to... MR. ROEHRIG: What type of education are you talking about? MS. RICE: We can't hear you. It's too soft. MR. HENRICKS: Okay maybe we should take a break and try to rectify this so that we can proceed without feeling the need to holler into these microphones. Ask for a recess please. CHR. ADAMS: Sure. Let's take a brief recess for technical purposes. MR. HENRICKS: Thank you Mr. Chair. RECESS: Chair called for a recess for technical adjustments. RECONVENE: The meeting reconvened. Page 7 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 CHR. ADAMS: Calling the meeting back to order. I will try not to swallow the microphone. So we are in a motion. You had a question... Commissioner Hopkins had a question regarding the expenditure of the funds and who actually is doing the expenditure of the funds and developing the awareness documentation that will be provided to the voters and the Clerk was explaining that process. MR. HENRICKS: Yeah, the office will do so under all regulations, purchasing, and procurement, or whatever comes into play on behalf of the Chair and the Commission. CHR. ADAMS: As it... per our rules, also, to the extent that I am asked by various organizations to talk about the Charter Amendment Proposals and the questions, then I will do that on behalf of the Commission. Clearly Commission members have always had the opportunity to speak personally and individually with their friends and neighbors and that would continue under our rules but then I will take the... to the extent that there is any request, I will take those on to do those, as we have already done in the past. Okay, not seeing any other discussion on this item, all in favor of the motion please signify by saying "aye" (aye) MR. ROEHRIG: Naye. CHR. ADAMS: Any opposed? MR. ROEHRIG: Opposed. CHR. ADAMS: Motion passes nine to one, with the naye vote being Commissioner Roehrig and the Commissioner excused being Commissioner Galimba. Vote on Motion The motion to authorize the Chair to expend funds for education To Expend Funds: purpose was carried by the following roll call vote: For Voter Education: (Approved) Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko- Schlueter, and Chair Adams — 9 Noes: Commissioner Roehrig — 1 Absent: Commissioner Galimba —1 Excused: None. CHR. ADAMS: Seeing that we have no Unfinished Business, we will move into...yes? MR. HENRICKS: I am sorry, that was your motion to authorize you to expend funds. Page 8 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 CHR. ADAMS: I am sorry. You are absolutely right. MR. HENRICKS: You're back on... yeah. CHR. ADAMS: We also now have a motion still on the table to close and file Communication No. 57. Any other discussion on that motion? All in favor of that motion which closes and files Communication No. 57, please signify by saying "aye" (aye). Any opposed? Motion passes 10-0, with Commissioner Galimba excused. Vote on The motion to close file on Comm. No. 57 was carried by the Comm. No. 57 following voice vote: (Filed): Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams —10 Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Galimba —1 Excused: None. UNFINISHED The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, BUSINESS: Unfinished Business. NEW BUSINESS: CHR. ADAMS: Moving on to Unfinished Business. Seeing none, we move into New Business. The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, New Business. CHR. ADAMS: Our first item is from Communication No. 53.3. It is our Charter Amendment Proposal Summaries as revised per the recommendations of the ad hoc committee which was established to develop Charter Amendment Proposal summaries and ballot questions, propose consolidation of Charter Amendment Proposals, and propose renumbering of Charter Amendment Proposals for sequential ordering. I would entertain a moment... a motion at this point, to accept... to approve the summaries as revised per the recommendation of the ad hoc committee. Is there such a motion? Page 9 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 Is there a second? So it has been moved by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by Commissioner Saquing. At this time, before we enter into discussion, I would entertain a motion to postpone the discussion... postpone consideration of this motion until our next meeting. MR. BERGIN: So moved. CHR. ADAMS: I didn't see who moved. Okay. It has been moved by Commissioner Bergin and seconded by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter. Discussion. With the mover's permission, I will take the discussion. MR. BERGIN: Please. CHR. ADAMS: So the purpose of this is, here we are in this meeting and then we really don't have the ability to talk about the report that this... from the ad hoc committee that this is based on. The idea is that when we get to our next meeting, then the process of allowing us to talk both about that, the report that we will consider, plus these summaries and then be able to vote on them, will be... we will have that opportunity from a notice perspective. Is that correct? Okay. So we are making the motion now. We are postponing the consideration of that motion until our next meeting when we will bring it back up in the regular order of business. Is there any... questions about that? Yes, Commissioner Todd. MS. TODD: When would the next meeting be? CHR. ADAMS: We will consider that in the process of our meeting today but right now we are looking at the 24th of July, two weeks from today. Commissioners in Kona, do you have any questions about what is happening here? MS. RICE: No. MR. ROEHRIG: No. CHR. ADAMS: Okay, Great. So we have a motion to postpone consideration of the motion on the table. We have had discussion. All in favor of that motion to postpone please signify by saying "aye" (aye). Any opposed? Motion passes 10- 0 with Commissioner Galimba excused. Vote on Motion The motion to postpone Comm. No. 53.3 was carried by the Page 10 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 to Postpone (Approved): following voice vote: Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams —10 Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Galimba —1 Excused: None. REPORT The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, Report. CHR. ADAMS: Seeing no other New Business... we good? Okay. Seeing no other New Business, we will move in to Reports on our agenda. Communication No. 53.2 Report and recommendations of the ad hoc committee established to develop the charter amendment proposal summaries and ballot questions, proposed consolidation of charter amendment proposals, and propose renumbering of the charter amendment proposals for sequential ordering. I would entertain a motion to adopt the report and approve the recommendations of the ad hoc committee. MR. BERGIN: Move to adopt. CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second? MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: It has been moved by Commissioner Bergin and seconded by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter. Before we move into discussion, I would entertain a motion to postpone consideration of this motion to our next meeting. MR. HOPKINS: So moved. CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second? MS. SPRINGER: Second. CHR. ADAMS: It has been moved by Commissioner Hopkins and seconded by Commissioner Springer. Discussion on this if I may with the permission of the mover, enter into discussion. Again this is a report, so typically in our reports we only receive them during that first meeting and then do the consideration of the reports in the second meeting. This allows us the process to do that. We are not going to discuss what is in the... the substance of this report, but it puts it out for Page 11 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 notice purposes. Allows us then to have had the motion to consider it but we will postpone that motion so that when we meet at our next meeting we can move forward with our consideration of it, any potential modifications to the recommendations, amendments etc., all those kinds of things we can do at our next meeting. Any questions about that from the Commissioners? Kona, Commissioners, any questions? Okay. Hearing none, all in favor of the motion to postpone the motion to adopt the report and approve the recommendations is again is the motion to postpone. All in favor signify by saying "aye" (aye). Any opposed? Motion passes 10-0 with Commissioner Galimba excused. Vote on Motion The motion to postpone Comm. No. 53.2 was carried by the to Postpone following voice vote: (Approved): Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams —10 Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Galimba —1 Excused: None. REFERRALS FOR The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business, EXECUTIVE Referrals for Executive Session. SESSION: CHR. ADAMS: So what we are going to do for Executive Session, just a little bit of ball game conversation in between the innings. We are going to move to approve the Executive Session minutes of August 8, 2019 because we entered into Executive Session. We are going to try to do this without going into Executive Session again otherwise we will get into this loop de loop where we will never be able to finally finish approving Executive Session minutes. That doesn't mean that if someone wants to go into Executive Session, we can't do that but, so the idea is to move... I would... we are going to move to approve, we are going to take a recess so that folks can review, we will come back, we will have the vote, and then... am I getting this mixed up? Do we need to consider the interests... any interest in going to Executive Session before we have the vote? MR. HENRICKS: That would be correct. Page 12 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 CHR. ADAMS: Okay. So, let me re... It is only written down here if I would just read what I wrote. Motion to approve, we will take a recess to review, we will come back, I will ask if there is any interest in going in to Executive Session, if there is then we will identify that and do that. And then when we come back out of Executive Session, if we do go into Executive Session, we will vote. If we don't go into Executive Session then we will vote on the motion. Alright. I think I said that all correctly. Alright. So I would entertain a motion to approve the Executive Session minutes for August 8, 2019. Is there a second? Alright. It has been moved by Commissioner Saquing and seconded by Commissioner Leithead-Todd. You know I have only been doing this with you for three years or two years, I still don't know which way to say it. Leithead, Litehead... MS. TODD: Well, (inaudible) In America "Leith head". It would be... CHR. ADAMS: So actually it is a TH sound, not a T and an H. MS. TODD: It is Leithhead (inaudible) CHR. ADAMS: See I like that better actually. Alright so, this motion was seconded by Commissioner Leithead-Todd. Is that close? Okay. At this moment I would like to take a recess to allow Commissioners to review and grab coffee, and water, and whatever else they need to do. Let's recess for about ten minutes. RECESS: At 10:29 a.m., the Chair called for a recess to go into Executive Session. RECONVENE: The meeting reconvened at 10:40 a.m. CHR. ADAMS: Okay, lets come back to order from our recess. Is there any interest from any of the Commissioners to entering into Executive Session at this time? Kona you can hear me as well? Kona? MS. RICE: Yes. We can hear you. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Leithead-Todd. MS. TODD: The purpose of an Executive Session would be to review the session minutes of August 8th? CHR. ADAMS: Any other reason. Page 13 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 MS. TODD: Okay. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Not seeing that there is any interest, I would... we have a motion already on the table to approve the Executive Session minutes. All those in favor of approving of... approving the motion to approve the Executive Session minutes of August 8, 2019, please signify by saying "aye" (aye). Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously 10-0 with Commissioner Galimba excused. Vote on Motion To Approve Executive Session Minutes: (Approved) The motion to approve the Executive Session minutes was carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Noes: Absent: Excused: Commissioners Bergin, Hamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams —10 None. Commissioner Galimba —1 None. CHR. ADAMS: Moving on to Agenda Items for Next Regularly Scheduled Meeting, are there any items that Commissioners would like us consider for our future agenda? MS. RICE: Mr. Chairman. I... CHR. ADAMS: Yes Commissioner Rice. MS. RICE: I wasn't sure where to bring this up and I may have blown it. There is one typo in the minutes that we just approved. It is the spelling of the plant Ko`a ekoa, It is just a real minor thing but it needs to be E K 0 A. It is on the first page under my name, at the bottom. CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Rice. I think without objection, we will make that technical change. MS. RICE: Thank you. CHR. ADAMS: Are there any other suggestions from Commissioners? Okay, moving then on to Announcements, our next meeting is scheduled for two weeks from today. It allows us the opportunity to meet public notice requirements, those kinds of things, so Friday, July 24, 2020. We would conduct the meeting similarly to this, where members have the ability to either come to this facility here in Hilo, or to the West Hawai`i Civic Center facility in Kailua-Kona. Page 14 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 As far as the time is concerned, how did 10 o'clock work for everybody? Kona is that good for you, Commissioners? MS. RICE: Yes. It is fine for me. MR. ROEHRIG: Okay. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Thanks Kit. Alright, so then our time would be 10:00 a.m., assuming that we have the facility at that time. I guess we do. That's good, so we will say 10 o'clock. Now, I would caution that next Friday will not be done in 45 minutes... or on the 24th. Right, it is going to take a little bit of time, it is quite conceivable that we will have testimony... more testimony than we had today, but maybe not, you never know. But I think that we will end up going through the ballot questions, making sure that they are the way that we want them, the way we have gone through the Charter Amendment Proposals, if my mind can go back that far. The other thing that I would ask, is that as you take a look at the ballot questions, two things I should mention, the Charter Amendment Proposals have been revised under the recommendation of the ad hoc committee, obviously they haven't been revised completely for real because the Commission has to make that decision, right. So that will be part of the process the next time we meet... is voting on that if indeed we follow the ad hoc committee's recommendations. The other... but, I should mention that the revision is only in the ordering and the consolidation. It is not in the substance of the proposals themselves. So we will not be accepting recommendations or modifications, or amendments to the substance right, it is just the consolidation piece. So let me just ask our esteemed attorney if I am wrong in any of that. MR. YOSHIMOTO: You are correct in your assessment. I would just caution that we not go into any further detail regarding the report because the report speaks for itself. But you are correct in terms of the procedures and what we can and cannot do. CHR. ADAMS: Right. Thank you... for the cautionary note as well. And then on the other procedural aspect, the ballot questions themselves, to the extent that as you take a look at them there may be things that you want to have the Commission consider as a modification of some kind. Please if you can, it is not a requirement but it is helpful that you communicate with staff so that they can have something written up already as opposed to us trying to do the writing here. Again, not a requirement, but it does make things move a little bit more quickly while we are in the process of an actual meeting. Page 15 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 I just want to make sure our Commissioners in Kona heard what I said. MS. RICE: Yes. CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Thank you. Okay, is there any other items... yes, Commissioner Saquing. MS. SAQUING: I just... I just want more clarification. Yesterday we received an email from Shannon with some potential edits for the ballot, do we... CHR. ADAMS: So that's... that was testimony that was provided to us by a member of the community. MS. SAQUING: Correct. CHR. ADAMS: And so, we appreciate the information, but the only thing... so we will take into consideration all testimony at our next meeting. MS. SAQUING: Okay. Thank you. CHR. ADAMS: Commissioner Bergin, did you have something? Okay. Our Commissioners, Commissioner Rice, Commissioner Roehrig, do you have anything for the body? MS. RICE: I don't. MR. ROEHRIG: No. CHR. ADAMS: I would just like to thank you guys for being there and really, it is great to see everybody. Not seeing that there is anything else, I would ask the staff, is there anything else that you need from us? MS. MAGNUSON: Just have to make sure everybody turns in the confidential minutes envelope. CHR. ADAMS: So, make sure that you put your Executive Session minutes back in to the folder, if you haven't already done so, and that Shannon gets that back from us before we actually leave the facility, whether it is here in Hilo or there. Kona you don't have to provide it to Shannon, you can provide it to Scott instead. Alright, so on behalf of the Commission, we appreciate the staff and all of the work that you have done in terms of prepping for this meeting and also for the next meeting, and the help with the ad hoc committee and its work as well, and I will entertain a motion to adjourn subject to our next meeting being a special meeting on July 24th. Is there such a motion? Second? Alright, moved by Page 16 Hawai`i County Charter Commission -15 July 10, 2020 Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by Commissioner Saquing. All in favor (aye), meeting adjourned. Meeting adjourned at 10:49 a.m. Vote. on Motion There being no further business, at 10:49 a.m. Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter Adjourn moved that the meeting be adjourned. Seconded by Commissioner Saquing and (Approved): carried by the following voice vote: Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, IIamano, Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer, Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams -- 10 Noes: None. Absent: Commissioners Galirnba — 1 Excused: None. Commission Approval: July 24, 2020 4 za4,,ifoie +uglass Shipman i!dams, Chair 8-2020 Hawai`i County Charter Commission Page 17