HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN CHARTER 2020-07-24 (2018-2020)Hawaii County Charter Commission
16 I Session
Council Chambers, Hawaii County Building
25 Aupuni Street, Ste. 1401
Hilo, Hawaii
July 24, 2020
CALL TO The regular meeting of the Hawaii County Charter Commission was called to
ORDER: order at 10:01 a.m., in the Council Chambers, Hilo, by Mr. Douglass Shipman
Adams, Chair.
ROLL CALL:
Present: Mr. Douglass Shipman Adams, Chair
Ms. Jennifer Zelko-Schlueter, Vice Chair
Mr. William Carthage Bergin, Commissioner
Ms. Michelle Galimba, Commissioner
Mr. Paul K. Hamano, Commissioner
Mr. Kevin D. Hopkins, Commissioner
Ms. Sarah H. Rice, Commissioner (via videoconference from Kona)
Mr. Christopher John Imiloa Roehrig, Commissioner (via videoconference from
Kona)
Ms. Marcia A. K. Saquing, Commissioner
Ms. Donna Mae Springer, Commissioner
Ms. Bobby Jean Leithead Todd, Commissioner
Also Present: Mr. J Yoshimoto, Commission Attorney
Mr. Jon Henricks, Commission Analyst
Ms. Shannon Magnuson, Commission Secretary
Ms. Leinani Wessel, Legislative Assistant, (Kona courtesy site)
CHR. ADAMS: So I would like to welcome all of us to the 16Th session of the
Hawaii County Charter Commission, 2018-2020. Today is Friday, July 24Th, It is
10:00 a.m. and I would ask that all of us please silence our communication
devices. I am glad I had this in my notes so that I would remember to do it.
I would also ask that all of us please when you are speaking, unlike what I did,
that was all just an example, right? I didn't do that you know, unintentionally, it
was all intentional for me not to turn my mic on, so nobody could hear me. Make
sure to please when you are speaking, speak into the mic, speak as clearly as you
can, make sure that your mics are on so that we can hear each other here and we
can hear in Kona. That would be... that would be helpful particularly when we
get into any discussion that we are going to have.
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CHR. ADAMS: At this time I would like to call the meeting to order.
Mr. Henricks if you would please call the roll.
MR. HENRICKS: Mr. Bergin (here), Ms. Galimba(here), Mr. Hamano (here),
Mr. Hopkins (here), Ms. Leithead-Todd (here), Ms. Rice (here), Mr. Roehrig
(here), Ms. Saquing (here), Ms. Springer (here), Ms. Zelko-Schlueter (here),
Chair Adams (present).
Chair you have all 11 members in attendance.
STATEMENTS The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business,
FROM THE Statements from the Public on Agenda Items.
PUBLIC ON
AGENDA ITEMS: CHR. ADAMS: That's... that's just really, I really am very grateful to all of you
for making the effort to be here today. Thank you, Mr. Henricks.
Do we have statements from the public here in Hilo or in Kona? So none in Hilo.
Do we have any statements from the public in Kona?
MS. WESSEL: Good morning. There is no testifiers here this morning.
APPROVAL OF The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business,
MINUTES: Approval of Minutes.
CHR. ADAMS: Alrighty. I would then move us on to the next item on the
Agenda, Approval of Minutes. You should have received the July 101h regular
meeting minutes already in... electronically. I would entertain a motion to
approve the July 10th, 2020 regular meeting minutes.
MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: So moved.
CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second?
MS. SPRINGER: Second.
CHR. ADAMS: It's been moved by Vice -Chair Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by
Commissioner Springer. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor of
approving the motion, please signify by saying "aye"(aye). Any opposed? The
motion passes unanimously.
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Vote on Motion Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter moved to approve the minutes of
To Approve Minutes: July 20, 2020. Seconded by Commissioner Springer and carried
(Approved) by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Galimba, Hamano,
Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer,
Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams — 11
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
APPROVAL TO CHR. ADAMS: At this particular moment, I would like to ask... this seems
GRANT THE to be as good a place as any to talk about this. One of the things that in my little
CHAIR brain... I shouldn't say that I guess... that I was worried, that I got concerned
AUTHORITY TO about, is how do we actually ever stop one of these meetings from occurring?
APPROVE THE Because we always have to pass the... we always have to approve the minutes
MINUTES OF from the previous meeting right? And then you have a meeting. So we talked
LAST MEETING: about it with the staff, and we have a suggestion that the Commission provide the
Chair with the authority to review and approve the minutes of the last meeting.
So I would entertain a motion to grant the Chair the authority to review and
approve the minutes of the last meeting without holding a meeting. Is there such
a motion?
MR. BERGIN: So moved.
CHR. ADAMS: Is there a second?
MS. GALIMBA: Second.
CHR. ADAMS: Alright. It has been moved by Commissioner Bergin and
seconded by Commissioner Galimba. The discussion on that, I would just...
that's pretty much what we are talking about. We're trying to just close this up. I
would probably not... just to let you know what I would do, I probably would not
actually sign off on the minutes from this meeting until close to the general
election time just in case there was a need for another meeting. Then of course at
that meeting we could approve these minutes and I would, you know, take care to
review and approve those.
So, is there any discussion that anyone has or concerns anybody has about doing
that?
MS. RICE: Yes. I am confused. It's Sally talking.
CHR. ADAMS: Yes, Commissioner Rice.
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MS. RICE: Uhm so, let's go to these minutes. So, you wouldn't... why wouldn't
we... if we approve these minutes as voted on, that they wouldn't be filed, they
would be done.
CHR. ADAMS: So the... the minutes for July 10, 2020, we just did. That's not
what you're talking about. You are talking about July 241h minutes?
MS. RICE: Oh, okay. So what you are saying is that... that you would review
and approve the July 241h minutes, in other words this meeting's minutes.
CHR. ADAMS: Assuming that it's the last meeting that the Commission has,
correct.
MS. RICE: Okay. So... if we look at the minutes and find something that needs
to be corrected, just something that one of us said, then would we contact you?
CHR. ADAMS: Uhm, let me ask Mr. Henricks to address that.
You'd like to defer to our Legal Analyst, Mr. Yoshimoto? Mr. Yoshimoto.
MR. HENRICKS: Yes please. Thank you.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: So... sorry? It's on? Okay. So, Commission members, so
the proposal currently now...
CHR. ADAMS: It's on. It's just that he's soft spoken.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Okay. So to answer Ms. Rice's question, you know we
have two alternatives right? And this is mainly due to...
MR. ROEHRIG: Can you repeat that?
CHR. ADAMS: Yeah, why don't you take your mask down a little bit J? There
you go.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: How's this Kit? This is better?
MS. RICE: Yes. Yes.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Okay. Okay, so we need to be mindful of the Sunshine
Law. So you know, one of the issues that the Chair was talking about was how do
we review and approve the minutes from a last meeting because otherwise we
would perpetually meet to approve the previous meeting's minutes.
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So what the Chair is asking for is authority to review today's minutes... assuming
today is the last meeting, and grant him that authority. The concern with having
members provide input to the minutes can be addressed if those suggestions or
edits if there are any, be sent to staff only and the Chair not be aware of who sent
those suggestions because again, that might be construed as conducting board
business outside of a regularly scheduled meeting. So to Ms. Rice's question, we
could address that in that way by modifying the motion in that way.
Ms. Rice, does that help?
MS. RICE: Okay, let me just be sure I understand. So, just say it is a minor thing
that needs to be corrected, and I am saying that I am just putting... making trouble
where there is none, but then I would contact the staff?
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Correct.
MS. RICE: And, and they would correct it? And then it would be approved by
the Chair? Is that correct?
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Correct. Right. That would, that would be an alternative to
the current motion. So that motion could be modified. Now if you so wish to do
that.
MS. RICE: That sounds reasonable. Yes.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Okay. Mr. Chair, is...
CHR. ADAMS: Yeah, so I think as a procedural matter, the staff would receive
those comments and questions but primarily comments from the Commissioners
and then they would modify as needed, the minutes, and then I would review
those final draft minutes if you would.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Okay and then so, we should set some type of time, like 30
days or something to that effect. Mr. Chair, or do you want to leave it up till right
before the election like you mentioned? Because you know, per law we have to
post the minutes, I think it is 40 days... a draft, right. So, whatever is your
pleasure, either way works.
CHR. ADAMS: Yeah, I don't know that I can put a date on it just because I don't
want to presume that we wouldn't have a meeting.
MR. YOSHIMOTO: Correct. Okay.
CHR. ADAMS: Are there, is there any other comments... are there any other
comments?
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Okay, so we have a motion on the floor and a second. We have a motion on the
floor and we've heard the procedural matters.
Hearing no other discussion, all in favor of the motion... I am going to ask for roll
call on this particular motion just because I think it's important that we just
identify it, so by roll call Mr. Henricks if we could vote on the motion.
Vote on Motion
to grant the Chair:
authority to approve
the minutes:
MR. HENRICKS: On the motion to grant the Chair authority to approve the
minutes of the last meeting of this Commission:
Mr. Bergin (aye), Ms. Galimba (aye), Mr. Hamano (aye), Mr. Hopkins (aye), Ms.
Leithead-Todd (aye), Ms. Rice (aye), Mr. Roehrig (aye), Ms. Saquing (aye), Ms.
Springer (aye), Ms. Zelko-Schlueter (aye), Chair (aye).
Chair you have 11 votes in favor.
CHR. ADAMS: The motion passes unanimously. Thank you.
Commissioner Bergin moved to grant the Chair authority to approve the
minutes of the last meeting of the Commission. Seconded by
Commissioner Galimba and carried by the following roll call vote:
(Approved) Ayes:
Commissioners Bergin, Galimba, Hamano,
Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer,
Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams — 11
Noes:
None.
Absent:
None.
Excused:
None.
COMMUNI- The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business,
CATIONS: Communications.
CHR. ADAMS: Alright, moving on, we have no Communications, so we will
move through that item on the agenda, and now we move into our Unfinished
Business.
UNFINISHED The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business,
BUSINESS: Unfinished Business.
CHR. ADAMS: Now we move into our Unfinished Business. We have two
items, one is Communication No. 53.3 and the other item is Communication 53.2.
Without objection, I am going to take these items out of order. Isn't that correct
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Mr. Henricks? Is that what we are doing? Right, and so we will deal with item
two in Unfinished Business, that's Communication No. 53.2. The Report and
Recommendations of the Ad Hoc Committee Established to Develop Charter
Amendment Proposal Summaries and Ballot Questions, Propose Consolidation to
Charter Amendment Proposals and Propose Renumbering of Charter Amendment
Proposals for Sequential Ordering.
There is a... this was postponed by motion on July 101h, at our meeting on July
101h that there is a motion on the floor made by Commissioner Bergin and
seconded by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter to approve the recommendations and
adopt the report of the Ad Hoc Committee as presented in Communication No.
53.3.
I should note the reason that we are taking these out of order according to the
agenda is that whatever decisions are made on the ballot questions, would likely
have an impact if they are other than what we already... that's in the
recommendation, would have an impact on the Communication in 53.3 which are
the proposal summaries. So it just seems to make sense, let's get the questions
squared away and then we can deal with the summaries, so that is why we are
doing it in that order.
Okay, is there a need for me to do anything... we've postponed, do we need to
bring it back into...
MR. HENRICKS: The motion's on the floor.
CHR. ADAMS: So the motion's on the floor and it has been seconded, and so we
can start discussion on the... on the item. So we have 53.2 which is the
discussion, which is the discussion of the variety of ballot language. With the
permission of the mover, Commissioner Bergin, or was it you?, No, it was
Commissioner Zelko, hold on. Yes, with the permission of Commissioner
Bergin, if I may, I am just going to roll through these proposals... these ballot
questions that is... briefly and then open up for discussion. Is that okay? Okay.
So what we have in discussion on this motion is that we have ... we have 16
proposals that have been provided by the... recommended by the ad hoc
committee. The first proposal is one that takes six of the Charter Amendment
Proposals that we approved back last year and combines them. And then those
would correct... the idea is those correct certain technical, linguistic, and
grammatical issues in the Charter and so, it just seemed to the committee that it
would make sense to bring those together.
And then we have Charter Amendment... and then the rest of the proposals are
individual Charter Amendments and we have just put the numbers in order
because we had some Charter Amendments that we did not pass, but we
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maintained the numbering system previously and so the proposals then would be
in a sequential, without any numbers missing, order.
So at this time we have the proposals in front of you, does anyone have any
comments that they would like to make on any of these ballot questions?
Kona, do you have any comments?
MS. RICE: No. We're good.
CHR. ADAMS: Alright. Not hearing any... oh, I am sorry. So let's bring that
down to you so you can... there you go.
MS. GALIMBA: Okay. So this is kind of a... not necessarily relating to 53, no it
is relating to 53.2, but, okay, so... I just had a question about sort of the... what is
this called?
CHR. ADAMS: The text?
MS. GALIMBA: Yeah, the Ramseyer. Is this... is this just for us, or does this go
out... like what is the outreach on this?
CHR. ADAMS: So the question is for Mr. Henricks.
MR. HENRICKS: So, the proposals themselves, which are not the questions,
they are what you described, the full text of the Charter with the Ramseyer format
bracketing, strikethrough, underscoring, is the legal document that when the
questions are voted in the affirmative, how the Charter will be revised, that full
text will be provided to the public at least, well, two times, through newspaper
publishings in the West Hawaii Today and the Hawaii Tribune Herald per law
as required.
We would also have the full text available in normally what would be our polling
places which we don't have this year, so those would be available at our voter
service centers. They will also be available at our Clerk's offices, or excuse me,
not Clerk's offices, our Elections offices in Hilo and also in Kona. And also at
this time I have been talking to Chair Adams and also legal counsel and will enter
into discussions as we get closer to the general elections, with our State Elections
office and our Elections Division about how we can provide notice in each ballot
package that goes out in the mail, of how to review this full text. We would not
be able to provide the full text with the ballot package. It would consume too
much space being that it is 30 some odd pages, but as you... I don't know, most
of you received your ballot packages, there is information in there that
supplements the ballot. Instructional information, educational information, and
we will work to find a way to present a link so that people who have access to the
internet could then view the full text in a convenient manner and perhaps also a
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phone number to call for those that don't have access to the internet, so that they
could be provided the full text of these amendments in some other capacity.
MS. GALIMBA: Thank you.
CHR. ADAMS: Okay. Are there any other questions or comments associated
with the motion?
MR. HENRICKS: Mr. Chair.
CHR. ADAMS: Mr. Henricks.
MR. HENRICKS: If there are no other questions or comments, I just wanted to
make a brief comment if that's okay.
CHR. ADAMS: Please.
MR. HENRICKS: I just wanted to... and again, just making sure that there isn't
any other... I don't want to disrupt any deliberations, but I just wanted to say that
for what it is worth, in my experience working in these matters, I really appreciate
the approach the ad hoc committee took in developing these questions. For what
it is worth, and again, just my perspective, my subjective position, they are very
well done.
I think that they're complete. I think they're clear and I remind, and as the ad hoc
committee took the approach, they do not provide voter education. They provide
a question that should be you know... it's a comprehensive question in my mind
that points out the chief features of each amendment in clear, practical, simple
language that people can understand, that is impartial. It is not subjective. It does
not lead the voter down a particular path. Very well done.
CHR. ADAMS: Well, that's the... that's the committee's work, so thank you Mr.
Henricks.
MS. GALIMBA: Sorry.
CHR. ADAMS: Yes?
MS. GALIMBA: I was remiss in not...
CHR. ADAMS: If you could bring that closer, oh, sorry.
MS. GALIMBA: Beautifully done. Yes.
CHR. ADAMS: Thanks Commissioner Galimba.
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Okay, no discussion seen, no more discussion seen, I would take a roll call vote
on this particular motion. Mr. Henricks.
MR. HENRICKS: On the motion to approve the recommendations and adopt the
report of the ad hoc committee relating to ballot questions:
Mr. Bergin (aye), Ms. Galimba (aye), Mr. Hamano (aye), Mr. Hopkins (aye), Ms.
Leithead-Todd (aye), Ms. Rice (aye), Mr. Roehrig (aye), Ms. Saquing (aye), Ms.
Springer (aye), Ms. Zelko-Schlueter (aye), Chair (aye).
Chair you have 11 votes in favor.
Vote on Motion The motion to approve Comm. No. 53.2, the recommendations and adopt
To Approve the report of the ad hoc committee relating to ballot questions was carried by the
Comm. No. 53.2 following roll call vote:
(Approved):
Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Galimba, Hamano,
Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer,
Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams — 11
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
CHR. ADAMS: The motion passes unanimously. Moving on to Communication
No. 53.3, we have... this particular... we have a motion on the floor. I am sorry.
Let me try that again. This has to do with Charter Amendment Proposal
summaries as revised per the recommendations of the ad hoc committee, which
was established to develop Charter Amendment Proposal Summaries and ballot
questions, propose consolidation of Charter Amendment Proposals, and propose
renumbering of Charter Amendment Proposals for sequential ordering.
This particular... there was a motion on the floor made by Commissioner Saquing
and seconded by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter, to approve the
recommendations of the ad hoc committee as presented in Communication No.
53.3. That motion was postponed. We are now bringing it back for
consideration. I hope I said that correctly. And, I would... I would invite
Commissioner Saquing who made the motion, to begin discussion.
MS. SAWING: I just wanted to clarify, we are looking at Communication 53.2
correct?
CHR. ADAMS: Three.
MS. SAWING: Oh, we are still looking at three?
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CHR. ADAMS: We, we, we... just did 53.2, now we are looking at 53.3.
MS. SAWING: Okay. Got it.
CHR. ADAMS: Which has to do with the proposal summaries.
MS. SAWING: Okay, sorry about that.
CHR. ADAMS: Mr. Henricks.
MR. HENRICKS: Just for clarification, these were the summaries that Chair
Adams had put together for each proposal and just so, as to Ms. Galimba's
question earlier, how this kind of all works together, when we publish the full
text, these summaries will be included. These are intended to give a snapshot of
the Commission's perspective and rationale but still provide it, in my opinion, in a
you know, relatively impartial manner and so that's what these summaries are for.
And the reason that this is before you today is that the summaries that were
originally crafted for each proposal, needed to be modified due to the fact that
certain proposals were consolidated and that is why the Chair seeks approval of
these modified summaries. So again, they will be used as... to supplement the
full text as part of the educational effort and outreach to the community.
MS. SAWING: Thank you Mr. Henricks. So I appreciate what was set forth
here and I think we should move to accept it.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you. Is there any other discussion or comments on the
motion to approve the proposal summaries as amended through the ad hoc
committee's work? Hearing none, Mr. Henricks, I would ask that we take the roll
on this vote please.
MR. HENRICKS: On the motion to approve the summaries for each proposal as
provided in the Communication 53.3:
Mr. Bergin (aye), Ms. Galimba (aye), Mr. Hamano (aye), Mr. Hopkins (aye), Ms.
Leithead-Todd (aye), Ms. Rice (aye), Mr. Roehrig (aye), Ms. Saquing (aye), Ms.
Springer (aye), Ms. Zelko-Schlueter (aye), Chair Adams (aye).
Chair you have 11 votes in favor.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Mr. Henricks. The motion passes unanimously.
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Vote on Motion The motion to approve Comm. No. 53.3, the summaries for each proposal as
To Approve provided in the Communication No. 53.3 was carried by the following roll
Comm. No. 53.3 call vote:
(Approved):
Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Galimba, Hamano,
Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer,
Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams — 11
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
NEW The Chair directed the Commission to proceed to the next order of business,
BUSINESS: New Business.
CHR. ADAMS: Moving into New Business, we have none. We have no Reports.
We have no Executive Session items that I am aware of. And then at moment, we
have no Agenda Items for our next regularly scheduled meetings on the agenda, I
am not... do any Commissioners have any suggestions for future agenda items?
Seeing none...
Commissioner Leithead-Todd.
MS. TODD: I just have...
CHR. ADAMS: It's on.
MS. TODD: I just have a question on timing here. Now we have approved this.
At what point are you folks submitting it? That's all. I just want the timelines.
CHR. ADAMS: Sure.
MR. HENRICKS: The language that will appear on the general election ballot
must be submitted no later than 4:30 p.m. August 201h, to the State Election
Office. The intention is to not wait up until the last minute in case there are any
issues, so, on or before then, but not too much before then. We will of course
diligently... we will have to prepare, Chair will be preparing a letter that will
document what happens today...
CHR. ADAMS: It will serve as a cover for this.
MR. HENRICKS: Correct and put everything together. To my...
MS. TODD: Does this have to go to the Council, our ballot language?
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MR. HENRICKS: No. It does not. This is... the Charter provides that the
Commission shall draft the ballot questions with no requirement for review or
approval of any other body or person.
So the Chair will be submitting to myself as Clerk, the ballot language and then I
will then submit that on behalf of the Commission, to the Chief Elections Office
of the State for inclusion on the general election ballot.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you. Yes, Commissioner Saquing.
MS. SAWING: Hi. Thank you. So moving forward as a Commission, what is
our timeline as we serve?
CHR. ADAMS: So, according to the Charter, and I will be corrected here if I am
incorrect. We serve till the day after the general election. So, the general election
is the 4Ih, Yd or the 4Ih, I can't remember. Anyway, it is one of those two days,
3rd, and so we serve to the 4 I of November of this year.
Not seeing any other items here, we... I would just note in our announcements
that we do not have a next meeting scheduled. Doesn't mean that we wouldn't
have one, but at the moment we don't have one that is scheduled.
So let me, before adjournment, let me just... when we started this back in July of
2018, at the first meeting I asked each of you, and if you weren't able to be at that
first meeting I gave you the opportunity at the next meeting you were able to be
at. I asked each of you to make a comment about why you were on the
Commission and what you expected to see happen. I am not going to ask you to
remember what you said, but what I would like to do is I would like to give each
of you the opportunity to say... to make some type of final comment associated
with your service for the record. And you don't have to. I am just giving you the
opportunity to do that.
So if I could, I am going to start with our Commissioners in Kailua-Kona and so,
Mr. Roehrig, if I may start with you. Do you have any comments for the record
as we appear to be concluding our business on this Commission.
MR. ROEHRIG: I agree with everything Sally...
CHR. ADAMS: I am sorry Sir, we couldn't hear you.
MR. ROEHRIG: No comment.
CHR. ADAMS: Thanks Commissioner Roehrig, appreciate that. Commissioner
Rice.
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MS. RICE: Of course I have comments. You can count on me. I would like to
say that this has been a very educational and really enjoyable experience. I have
enjoyed getting to know some of the Commissioners that I didn't know before
and to get to know even better, the other Commissioners that I already knew.
I think you as Chair Doug, have done an amazing job especially at some of our
public hearings. I think you handled them diplomatically and pleasantly and I
think you gave everybody an opportunity to be heard. So from my perspective,
it's been a very pleasant, educational, and enjoyable experience. And thank you
to all my fellow Commissioners. Aloha.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Rice. Commissioner Bergin.
MR. BERGIN: Sally has very, very clearly expressed the emotion and the
experience that I was able to enjoy while serving on this Commission. I would be
remiss if I didn't continue to express the concern that I have that we look at the
Big Island as a whole island and yet be very, very sensitive to the fact that
building an emergency component into our Charter that would be duly supported
accordingly, can only be reinforced by what has happened to America but
certainly the Big Island in the last five months. Thank you.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Bergin. Commissioner Galimba.
MS. GALIMBA: So yes, Commissioner Rice summed it up very well and I
also... I am always amazed by your leadership Chair Adams, but I also just
wanted to add in that our staff has been amazing and just really helpful in getting
some of our half thought ideas into shape. So thank you very much to all of you
and just making it... just really easy and a pleasure to be here and help out our
County.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Galimba. Commissioner Hamano.
MR. HAMANO: Yes, I would like to thank my fellow Commissioners for their
work and cooperation in acting professionally and despite differences of opinion,
I think we all worked well together and that was very appreciated. I think you
know, everyone was looking toward bettering the County of Hawaii in trying to
revise the Charter. I would also like to emphasize that I believe that Chair Adams
has been an excellent Chair in guiding us and moving us always in the right
direction. His patience with all of us and in public testimony, and so I would like
to congratulate him for his excellent service. And also to the staff, one thing I did
learn, I have never worked in the County system before but I am very impressed
with the staff of the County of Hawaii. Very impressed. Thank you.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Hamamo. Commissioner Hopkins.
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MR. HOPKINS: Yeah. I actually was just thinking about what I had said when I
had started. Which was very much as my way of approaching these things is, if it
is not broken, don't fix it. And my concerns at the beginning that maybe we
would maybe be pushing agendas other than this... I am very, very pleased with
all the Commissioners and everybody that we worked with. You know, I was on
the losing side on a lot of things, but hey, everybody came up with very good
reasons for it and although this is a bit more expansive than what I would have
preferred, I understand why each and every one of these Charter Amendments are
here dealing with... I guess what I would more call operational problems and
procedural problems that we have. Some direction in here, but a lot of this deals
with problems in the original Charter as it has been amended previously and it is
what is needed for the County to work and that is what this group actually did.
Nobody really was here pushing agendas. Everybody was here trying to say how
can we make the County better and I really appreciated working with all of you.
CHR. ADAMS: Thanks Commissioner Hopkins and let me just make a comment
that I am particularly touched by the amount of dedication that you personally
took to this particular task given the impact that your personal life has had on
your situation and we just wish your wife the best.
Commissioner Saquing.
MS. SAWING: Thank you. I was thinking I was going last. First of all Mahalo
Sally. You were spot on on your comments. I agree completely with what you
said.
I do want to first mahalo you Chair Adams. You know your leadership and your
guidance as Paul noticed, is truly what got us through this whole process along
with the support of the staff. Not able to do anything with staff, I have a staff of
31, I cannot do the job that I do without them, so you guys are all rock stars. I
really, really appreciate it. But for me it has been a learning curve from the
beginning, and my biggest take away is the professionalism, the compassion that
all the Commissioners have, and the integrity of the work that we all put forth in
this Charter. So very honored and humbled to be part of this process and my
mahalo to all of you. Thank you.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Saquing. Commissioner Springer.
MS. SPRINGER: I would like to thank you as well. I don't know how you could
have sat through all of those meetings and just held your composure when we are
sitting there going grrr... I just only hope that my facial expressions didn't show.
But, thank you everyone. It was a pleasant and learning experience for me. I
don't know what I really expected, but I have learned a lot and I have enjoyed
working with each and every one of you. Thank you so much.
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CHR. ADAMS: Thanks Commissioner Springer. Commissioner Leithead-Todd.
Am I getting close?
MS. TODD: Yes.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you.
MS. TODD: I would like to thank everybody for their work. I am particularly
happy with the set of proposals we have. Especially the disaster and emergency
fund. Though in the aftermath of this recent global pandemic, I wonder if I set the
bar too low in terms of the amount of money that the County needs to set aside
because who knew that everything would be impacted from every segment of our
lives and it just is amazing you know, what we have had to endure and this is...
this is the largest social gathering that I have been to you know, since the start of
this. This is the largest group of people I have been around and we are only able
to do it because we are able to space, but I appreciate everybody's work. I will
miss all of you as I go back into semi quarantine and staying at home. Thank you
for your work.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Commissioner Leithead-Todd. At this time, I think I
would like to ask our staff for any comments that they have regarding this, so Ms.
Magnuson do you have anything? Please use one of the mics.
No, I didn't forget her.
MS. MAGNUSON: Hi.
CHR. ADAMS: If you could put it on...
MS. MAGNUSON: Is it not on?
CHR. ADAMS: Not on. There we go.
MS. MAGNUSON: I'll recognize my own voice in the minutes. But I just
wanted to say that every moment working with you guys has been an honor and a
privilege, and a pleasure. And I will miss working with you guys and until this
concludes and after, I am always here if I can help you in any way. Email, text,
you know, call and I am still at your beck and call.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Shannon. I think I speak for all of us when I am able
to say that your team has been just terrific and really as has been stated around the
dais and in Kona, we would not be able to have done anything if it wasn't for you
and your team, so thank you.
Mr. Yoshimoto.
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MR. YOSHIMOTO: Thank you Mr. Chairman. You know first of all I want to
thank each and every one of the Commission members. You know it has been my
pleasure, my honor, to serve with all of you as your legal counsel and to watch all
of the discussions and you know, all of the things that we did. You know I want
to say that it means a lot to me as well as to everyone in our community for
people like yourselves to put yourselves out there. To listen to the community
concerns, to be able to listen to the different ideas, and then come to a solution or
a resolution as to what to do. You know these Charter Commissions, they only
happen every 10 years, and you know, it is a really special Commission because
we are with a common purpose and that is to better our community, our County,
and so you know with that in mind, you know, I am proud of the work that the
Commission has done.
I can't begin to express the appreciation because of the challenges, the time
commitments everyone has faced, and to Chair Adams, you did an awesome job
as Chair. Your leadership, you diplomacy, have been very much appreciated. To
the staff, to Mr. Henricks, he has been terrific. Support staff, to Shannon, as well,
I can't say enough about the good work. I think this shows, this Commission
shows how the process works, and I know the Chair is very cognizant of believing
in the process and I think we all do. And I think this shows that when you follow
the process, you know, good things can happen, so I want to thank everyone
again.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Mr. Yoshimoto. I am going to go to Mr. Henricks.
MR. HENRICKS: Thank you for this opportunity Chair Adams. It's real simple
for me. There's probably over 150,000 people that were eligible for this
Commission, and the Mayor found the best 11 people. So kudos to the Mayor,
honestly. That is the most important part of this process. Everything we did
afterwards is a reflection upon finding the right people that we know are going to
care and take their time and listen to each other, to the community, and have a
really diverse viewpoint and as Commissioner Hamano said, respect,
professionalism.
I am a very sentimental person. I am actually kind of sad right now. This is hard.
And I know when I look back in my life, hopefully as I get older, this is going to
be very special to me so thank you all for making these great memories for
myself. Secondary only to my family memories, are professional ones and this is
a highlight, so thank you all. You did fantastic work and I really appreciate how
much you appreciated what we had to offer as staff and gave us this opportunity
to do this and thank you Shannon, thank you J, thank you Leslie Chow, and
Donna Eckersley, Susan, Jeanette, you know, Sherry, everybody that pitched in to
do this for the people of this island, congratulations.
CHR. ADAMS: Vice -Chair Zelko-Schlueter.
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MS. ZELKO-SCHLUETER: It is hard to follow that one. But it has been, like
everyone else mentioned, a real pleasure to serve with all of you. I have served as
Doug's Vice -Chair on several different... in several different organizations, so
nothing but love for you Doug. I think you do an amazing job. I really appreciate
it. I, I would like to echo actually what Mr. Hamano said. This staff, J, Shannon,
Jon... you folks have been... I can't imagine anyone more professional or easier
to work with. I think the County is very lucky to have you folks so thank you
very much and I think the last comment I would make... anyone that worries that
Commission members chosen by the Mayor or anyone else doesn't really
accurately reflect the community concerns, I think we have had a very diverse
group of folks on this Commission, with very different views, but we all were
very respectful of each other and I think really represented Hawaii Island well
and our residents, so thank you very much.
CHR. ADAMS: Thank you Vice -Chair Zelko-Schlueter. So let me just close this
up with a couple of comments. And by a couple you know I mean like 14 or 15.
I appreciate first of all, all the kind comments. That's very nice of you and I
know what the truth is so... When we started this a couple of years ago, and I
learned that I was going to be appointed as the Chair, I was scared to death. I
think we all kind of understand that. At some point we have all had the
opportunity to be in charge of our peers kind of idea and so I knew some but I
didn't know all of you. I wasn't necessarily familiar with the staff, with the
exception of Mr. Yoshimoto who we'd had the opportunity to work together. I
felt sorry for him.
And I just have to say that my ability to do what I am called to do within the rules
that we have, would have been impossible if you all hadn't been the team that you
developed into. I really do think that as many of you stated, the ability to bring
your concerns and opinions on matters that are important within a document that
is not a day to day document, but is more of a foundational document, to listen to
the County, Directors, and Deputy Directors, and other members of the staff, to
listen to the public. We had folks that were passionate about some of the things
that were going on. We know that we have that in the County. And it was our
responsibility on a... on a decennial basis, we are the ones that were called and
accepted, and were willing to listen to our fellow citizens on these issues. And so
I applaud you all for that because I think that that kind of gets lost in the wash a
little bit right. We... we hear it, and sometimes the passion can be not as clear as
perhaps the person that is explaining it wants it to be, and what we hear is, we
hear the passion or the anger, but not necessarily the message. Yet you guys were
able to, I think, work through that and discern really what, what was going on.
And that allowed us then to have conversations and dialog that I think informed
the documents that we presented to the Council and then received back from the
Council and amended and then what we are going to be doing in terms of
presenting as ballot questions and then the summaries for the voters to vote on
come here in November.
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I am very pleased to have been able to work with all of you. More importantly to
have been able to meet you, and to get to know you, even if it has been in this
situation. I think it is about time that we get this show on the road though, right.
The work has been done. There's a little bit of education that we will undertake
to make sure that those who are going to vote on these understand what they are
voting on. There's nothing worse than seeing something on the ballot and not
having a clue. So the idea is to make sure that they have an understanding of why
what they are voting on is there and why it is important. So we will do some of
that as well. And then we continue to move on with the variety of things that we
are doing.
I could say something... you know what is neat about this is that I could say
something personal about each of you. That would take a bunch of time and we
probably don't want that in the minutes and we can do that when we are able to
socially gather again at a later time. But I will say that Shannon and J, and Jon,
have been just really rock solid for me and I really just want to say on the record
how much I appreciate them and their willingness to put up with my little kind of
craziness as it goes on. And then Jennifer has been... she did not want to be the
Vice -Chair, Lord knows, and... but, she decided she would do it and I have felt
backed up. You all know that I have a military background. When I was a
Company Commander, we have in the organization First Sergeant and there is
this phrase that goes with the relationship between a Commander and a First
Sergeant and it is called being back-to-back right, and I have always felt that
Jennifer and I have been back-to-back right. You are always looking out.
Taking care of the things that are around you, knowing that the other is taking
care of what they are supposed to take care of well. And so, Jennifer, I would just
like to thank you for your service here and always having my back as well.
I am sure there is a bunch of other stuff that I am going to regret that I didn't say.
That is typically the case with me. I remember about 14 things after I turn the mic
off and we have gone our way but I would just say thank you on behalf of the
citizens and also the visitors to our fair island, for your work and for your efforts,
and for your passion here. I appreciate that Kit and Sally can't necessarily see us
as well because they are across the island, but all of you made the effort to be here
today in the middle of all kinds of stuff going on. I am very, very grateful. You
have no idea frankly, how grateful I am that you all decided to make this. To take
the final actions that we have as a Commission, to present this... these items
before the voters. I consider that really, really important and I am so grateful that
each of you did as well. So, with that I would entertain a motion to adjourn. Is
there a second?
It has been moved by Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter and seconded by
Commissioner Saquing. All in favor of the motion to adjourn please signify by
saying "aye" (aye). I am assuming without objection, no opposition, and the
motion is approved unanimously. This meeting is adjourned.
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Meeting Adjourned at 10:50 a.m.
July 24, 2020
Vote on Motion There being no further business, at 10:50 a.m. Commissioner Zelko-Schlueter
Adjourn moved that the meeting be adjourned. Seconded by Commissioner Saquing and
(Approved): catTied by the following voice vote:
Ayes: Commissioners Bergin, Galimba, Hamano,
Hopkins, Rice, Roehrig, Saquing, Springer,
Todd, Zelko-Schlueter, and Chair Adams -- I 1
Noes: None.
Absent: None.
Excused: None.
Commission Approval: October 30, 2020
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