HomeMy WebLinkAbout2020-07-21 Kailua Village Design Commission Minutes KAILUA VILLAGE DESIGN COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI'I
(MINUTES)
Meeting Date: July 21, 2020
Time: 5:15 pm
Place: Live Stream Meeting (Online)
CALL TO ORDER
Commissioners Present: Shaun Roth, Arne Werchick, John Hetherington, Jasmine Crusat,
Michaela Ikeuchi, Zon Sullenberger, Ann Kern, and Bryant
Ching, Riley Smith
Planning Department: Rosalind Newlon (Planner), Deanne Bugado (Planner), Terri
Napeahi (Planner) & Bennett Mark(Planning Program Manager)
Applicants/Representatives: Tingley Development Inc. and Inform Design.
A quorum was present. Chairman Roth called the meeting to order. Chairman Roth stated that
based on the Mayor's proclamation regarding COVID-19, these meetings will be on line until
further notice. This is to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and to also maintain social distancing.
Normally commissioners introduce themselves, however since the meeting was online Chairman
Roth read the names as they appeared from a list of those present on the Cisco Webex monitor.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the meetings of July 7, 2020
Chairman Roth mentioned that minutes were not ready and will be deferred to the next meeting.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
Chairman Roth asked if there were any Public Testimony to be presented and Rosalind Newlon
(Staff) answered none. No statements from the Public.
NEW BUSINESS
1. The applicant, Shani Armbruster, or Tinguely Development Inc., is proposing
design review for a sign/variance application for two (2) wall signs for a new
restaurant, "Kai Eats and Drinks" operated by Scott Dodd,located at Waterfront
Row, at the former `Bubba Gump" restaurant location along Ali'i Drive. In
addition to design review,both wall signs require the recommendation by the
KVDC for approval of a sign variance by the Director of Public Works,because the
proposed maximum letter height and area of wall signs exceed the requirements for
the Kailua Village Core area, per Hawaii County Code, Chapter 3 Signs Section 3-
58.
Landowner: Watumull Property Corp.
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TMK: (3) 7-5-008:009
Location: 75-5776 Ali'i Drive, Kailua-Kona, HI 96740
Ms. Newlon (Staff) commenced her Power point presentation for the Kai Eats and Drink
Sign/Variance. Slides were used to help orient commissioners as to where the subject
parcel proposed addition will take place.
Slide 2 & 3—Letter of what was submitted.
Slide 4, & 5—Sign Variance Application that DPW requires when application proposal
exceeds what's allowed by Chapter 3 (Signs), for the area of the two signs and the height
of the letters. The application was reviewed by Public Works and imported to KVDC for
review.
Slide 6—Ms. Newlon reads Sign Variance Request. "Kai Eats & Drinks requests a sign
variance for(2)proposed non-illuminated signs at their new Restaurant on Ali'i Drive,
which was formally Bubba Gump's. The signs exceed the Kailua Village District sign
limits, but they provide the same sign sizes that were on the Bubba Gump's Restaurant
and feel that it fits the existing building facade proportionately. In addition, fading of the
facade where previous signs were installed for the last 20 years would be unsightly if
smaller signs are installed. We do not feel that the granting of this variance will
unreasonably violate the interest, safety, convenience or general welfare of the public."
Slide 7—Map of Ali'i Drive showing Kai Eats &Drinks Business location.
Slide 8 - Facade of Building showing the location of the two signs. Larger sign is 37.1
square feet and the 16.5 square feet.
Slide 9 —Sign 41 Description, area size, colors and height of letters. Front View of Large
sign, letters are 26, 20.8 and 3.8 inches in height and the sign size 72" (W) and 74.25"
(L).
Slide 10 —Sign 42 Description, area size, color and height of letters. Front View of small
sign, letters are 17, 13.9 and 2.5 inches in height and the sign size 48" (W) and 49.5" (L).
Slide 11 —Check list for criteria of required contents of application (Sign code—HCC,
Section 3-52) and (Sign Code HCC, Section 3-54). Sign is not illuminated and does not
affect the landscaping, it's on the wall. It has a white back ground and a darker blue and
lighter blue circle.
Slide 12 —Sign permit. (Last slide)
Ms. Newlon - ended her presentation and opened for questions.
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Chairman Roth - asked if Bubba Gump had a sign variance.
Ms. Newlon - did not have that information at the time.
Chairman Roth - asked Commissioners if they had any questions for staff. None.
Chairman Roth - asked if applicant had anything to present.
Applicant- did not have anything to present.
Chairman Roth - asked if anyone had questions for applicant.
Commissioner Hetherington - asked applicant if they were aware if Bubba Gump had
any variance for signs.
Applicant- said that they haven't seen any sign variances in Bubba Gump's original
documents.
Commissioner Ching - asked the applicant, when they intend to open.
Applicant- answered, by the end of the year December.
Commissioner Smith-made a comment that the signage is appropriate, the colors are
appropriate it may require a variance because it's larger than it's allowed and will be
voting in favor of the variance.
Chairman Roth -began the discussion by mentioning that because the signs are
matching the old signs, he thought that it made sense to do it. He agreed that putting a
new smaller sign would be odd, especially for the large facade and large existing store
front. It needs something pretty substantial.
Commissioner Ikeuchi- commented that in that particular case, she did not see the
value of a variance, because we don't know if there was a variance for Bubba Gump.
She does agree that the sign should ideally fit the building and should be astatically
pleasing but with that, that could lend itself to constructing bigger buildings &bigger
signs. She didn't think the sign is an issue.
Commissioner Ching - comments that the reason he asked the question about opening, is
that he could see that the sign was appropriate and proportional, but maybe they should
cut down a little bit.
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Commissioner Werchick - commented that he thinks the sign of that size has existed for
so long that its already a part of the community, everybody is familiar with a sign that
size, requiring them to repaint or to make major adjustments to cover up sun bleached
spots would be an undo burden. Whether Bubba Gump applied for the variance or not, it
went for so many years without protest and without any enforcement, the community has
obviously accepted it, obviously the members of this commission.
Chairman Roth - said, "the facade of the building I believe is galvanized and I know it's
not painted in any way, if it was in a situation where they could easily repaint it to get rid
of the large circle, but this case it would mean changing the color of the whole thing or
replacing the metal."
Commissioner Crusat - agreed with Riley Smith in approving the sign. She mentions
the placement of the building at Bubba Gump's is difficult to see if you are driving on
Alii Drive. Crusat agreed and thought that the variance should be approved.
Commissioner Smith-wanted to clarify that the sign was non-illuminated.
Chairman Roth - answered that the pictures of the facade to the left and the right, is just
the building wall and that it was not actually lighting the sign itself. Chairman Roth
asked applicant to clarify.
Applicant- answered that there was sort of current down light along the building and
was not going to do anything with them, and that they don't exactly light the sign, they
sort of wash the facade of the building.
Commissioner Smith- clarifies his point. "It wasn't that the sign was not back lit, if
there were lights on the facade that washed the wall, than that is different than an
illuminating sign that has internal lighting. That's why I'm in favor of the sign."
Chairman Roth - gave an example of the Planet Fitness. There was a large illuminating
sign that was self-illuminated. The difference between this project and Planet Fitness is
that the applicants are following the correct process. They are showing good faith in
following the rules.
Commissioner Werchick - commented that applicant should not be punished if Bubba
Gump failed to get a variance. That's not this applicants fault.
Commissioner Hetherington - comments, "The one thing I hope we've learned from
Planet Fitness, is that it doesn't matter whether a previous owner or tenant had a variance.
That does not necessarily apply for the future. I vote in favor."
Commissioner Ching - agreed to approve the design.
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Chairman Roth - asked if there were any further discussion.
Commissioner Sullenberger - said, "I voice my support for just the proportionality of it.
The building does exist, however if they were coming in with the building itself as a new
proposal, than I would be less incline to be in favor of the sign, the existing proportions
are appropriate for the facade that exist, so I would be in favor of voting in favor of the
variance."
Commissioner Werchick - made a motion to approve the design.
Commissioner Ching - seconded the motion.
Chairman Roth - asked if there were any discussion for the motion. No more
discussion. Proceed to voting.
Ms. Newlon (Staff) - calls for voting. There were(7) ayes, (Ching, Crusat, Hetherington,
Smith, Sullenberger, Werchick, Kern) and (1) nay, (Ikeuchi). Motion passes to approve
as submitted.
Chairman Roth -the motion is adopted.
Chairman Roth introduces the second item on the agenda. Bob Anderson, of Inform
Design, is proposing design review for exterior modifications to an existing financial
building, including new eave extension and painted fascia board, new roof finish,
new siding, new front windows, new storefront entrance and vestibule and wider
drive-thru area, along with some modifications to the landscaped areas, at the
Hawaii Community Federal Credit Union,located off of Hualalai Road,just east of
Kuakini Highway.
Landowner: Kona Community Federal Credit Union
TMK: (3) 7-5-004:001
Location: 75-159 Hualalai Road, Kailua-Kona,Hawaii 96740
Ms. Newlon (staff) - commenced her presentation for the second applicant, Bob
Anderson, of Inform Design. Slides were again used to help orient commissioners as to
where the subject parcel proposed addition will take place.
Slide 2 Applicant's application for Design Review.
Slide 3 Map of Kailua Village Business Improvement District.
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Slide 4 Tax Map Key Portion of Lanihau I"to Hinealoli I". showing the location of the
bank.
Slide 5 Existing and Demolition Site Plan showing the existing parking and landscaping.
Slide 6 Site Plan showing the existing sign. They didn't show anything about changing
the sign.
Slide 7 & 8 Aerial view of the Kona Community Federal Credit Union.
Slide 9 & 10 Photos showing the building from Hualalai.
Slide 11, 12& 13 Photos showing the improvements. New siding, new fascia and cover,
new store front windows, new vestibule and wider drive-thru area. New roof finish, more
windows. Also showing the colors.
Slide 14 show new vestibule.
Slide 15 roof design.
Slide 16& 17 exterior modifications and color changes.
Slide 18 & 19 Overall look of landscape designs.
Slide 20 landscape plants using different shade trees.
Slide 21 Interior floor plan.
End of Slides
Chairman Roth - asked if anyone had any questions for Ms. Newlon.
Commissioner Smith- asked, "What are they requesting? Are they asking approval on
everything that's in design?"
Ms. Newlon -It's a design review because they are improving the look of the exterior.
Everything that causes change to the exterior goes to KVDC.
Commissioner Smith-they are changing the sign.
Ms. Newlon -the application is just for exterior design review and does not include the
sign permit.
Chairman Roth - does anyone else have any questions for Ms. Newlon?
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Chairman Roth - Does the applicant have anything they would like to present?
Bob Anderson - (Applicant) said, "Overall the objective of the project is to modernize
the facility, fix water proofing issues and create a better user experience for the members,
extensive landscaping, extensive interior and exterior work. This isn't a sign permit
application, it's what our intent is, but we will submit that separately. The building is
from 1988, so this would be the first major renovations. Really needs it."
Chairman Roth - Can you explain what you are doing to improve the lanes? Are you
doing anything to make them wider?
Bob Anderson - says that currently the lanes are undersized. Larger vehicles like trucks
have a hard time navigating. So we are definitely going to widen the lanes. We are
going to widen the lane widths and canopy for the drivers below. We are increasing the
widths to 9 foot 6."
Chairman Roth - asked if anyone had any more questions for Bob.
Commissioner Ikeuchi-just wondering since you are widening the drive thru, it seems
as if you are removing trees, but will be replacing them with shade trees? Is that correct?
Bob Anderson -yes that is correct. Unfortunately we are going to have to take it out.
For the widening of the lanes. We have an entirely new Landscaping design and the new
tree will match rest of the design.
Chairman Roth - asked if there were any more questions for the applicant.
Commissioner Hetherington -commented that this was the best presentation he has ever
seen at the KVDC.
Chairman Roth- continues the discussion and appreciates how well this package was put
together and what they are doing with the improvements.
Commissioner Ikeuchi- comments that the project is definitely a breath of fresh air, it
looks really nice and modern and in favor of the design.
Commissioner Smith- comments that he really appreciates the plant pallet and likes the
use of Native Plants for the project. Great job!
Chairman Roth - asked if there were any more comments. No more comments.
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Chairman Roth - asked commissioners if anyone would like to make a motion on the
project presented. Commissioner Ikeuchi made a motion to approve as submitted.
Commissioner Sullenberger - seconded the motion to approve as submitted.
Chairman Roth - asked if there were any discussion on the motion.
Commissioner Hetherington -mentions that because of the notation on the presentation
for the sign change, said if possible amend the motion that everything is approved except
the signage.
Chairman Roth - asked if Commissioner Ikeuchi was willing to amend her motion.
Commissioner Ikeuchi- amended her motion to approve the design as submitted
without the sign being included, with the caveat that the sign will be reviewed at a later
time.
Commissioner Sullenberger - once again seconded the motion.
Chairman Roth - asked if there were any more discussion. No more comments. And
proceeded to voting.
Ms. Newlon (Staff) - confirmed that the motion was made by Commissioner Ikeuchi to
approve the design as submitted without the proposed sign change, which would be
submitted at a later date. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Sullenberger.
There were no further discussion on the motion, a roll call vote was taken by Ms. Newlon
(Staff) and motion carried with (8) ayes, (Ching, Crusat, Kern, Hetherington, Ikeuchi,
Werchick, Sullenberger, Smith).
Chairman Roth confirms that the motion was adopted.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
None
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None. The next meeting is scheduled on August 4, 2020, with one application.
ADJOURNMENT
There were no further business, Chairman Roth adjourned the meeting at 5:57 pm.
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Respectfully submitted,
Terri L. Napeahi, Planner IV
ATTEST:
Shaun Roth, Chairman
Kailua Village Design Commission
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