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PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI`I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
JANUARY 16, 2004
CONTINENTAL PACIFIC, LLCSLU
A regularly advertised hearing on the applications of (
03-006/REZ 03-014/ SMA 03-009/ SMA 03-016) w
as called to order at 9:07 a.m. in the County
Building, Councilroom Î Room 201, 25 Aupuni Street, Hilo, Hawai`i, with Vice Chair Earl
Fujikawa presiding.
PRESENT:Earl FujikawaABSENT AND EXCUSED:Fred Galdones
Bill GrahamFlorence Kubota
Jeffrey McCall
Aurelio C. Mina, Jr.
Francis Smith
Hannah Springer
Bill Thibadeau
Patricia O'Toole, Esq., Deputy Corporation Counsel
Christopher J. Yuen, Planning Director
Norman Hayashi, Planning Program Manager
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Jeff Darrow, Staff Planner
And approximately 17 people from the public in attendance
APPLICANT: CONTINENTAL PACIFIC, LLC (SLU 03-006/REZ 03-014/ SMA 03-009)
Continued hearing on the following applications:
a.Application for a State Land Use Boundary Amendment for 4.182 ac
Agricultural to the Urban District.
b.Application for a Change of Zone for 13.478 acres of land from L
20,000 square feet (ML-20), General Industrial Î 5 acres (MG-5a), Village Commercial Î
10,000 square feet (CV-10) and Agricultural 20-acre (A- 20a) to Single Family
Residential Î 20,000 square feet (RS-20) and ML-20 districts.
c.Application for a Special Management Area (SMA) Use Permit to allow the development
of an 11-lot subdivision, including portion of a roadway lot, and related improvements.
The area involved includes the former Hilo Coast Processing Mill complex and
surrounding former sugar cane lands at Pepeekeo, South Hilo, Haw
TMK: 2-8-07: portions of 1 and 53.
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EXHIBIT A
APPLICANT: CONTINENTAL PACIFIC, LLC (SMA 03-016)
Application for a Special Management Area (SMA) Use Permit to allow the development of an
11-lot subdivision, ranging in sizes from 2.0 acres to 5.6 acres, and related improvements. The
area involved is located approximately 1,900 feet south of the Hilo Coast Processing Co.'s Power
Plant and about 150 feet east (mauka) of the shoreline, Pepeekeo, South Hilo,
Hawaii, TMK: 2-8-07:por. 1.
FUJIKAWA:Applicant No. 2 is the Continental Pacific LLC. ThatÓs
SLU 03-006/REZ 03-014/SMA 03-009). This is a continued hearing. Staff, go ahead.
HAYASHI:This would be for the Continental Pacific continued applications.
This application has been before the Planning Commission since, I believe, August of last year.
It has been continued on numerous occasions. The applicant, and just to refresh your memory on
this particular application, the applicant is requesting to reclassify approximately 4 acres of land
from an Agricultural to an Urban District; and also to rezone that particular property from
Agricultural - 20-acre to a Limited Industrial Î 20,000 square foot zoned district. The applicant
is also requesting that this particular area indicated in orange be rezoned from a General
Industrial - 5-acre to a Single Family Residential - 20,000 square foot zoned district.
In the area adjacent to this orange shaded or outlined area, the applicant is also requesting to
rezone that property from ML-20 to RS-20; and there is also another area indicated in, outlined
in blue that the applicant is requesting to rezone from CV-10 to RS-20.
The applicant is also requesting that along this, in this particular area, 11 lots be created within
the special management area.
As I indicated before there are numerous requests to continue the hearing on this particular
application. Since the last meeting back in November, I believe, we received some
correspondences regarding this application. All of you received copies of those
correspondences, so IÓll dispense with the reading or identifying what those correspondences are.
We also received yesterday a copy of a letter from the applicantÓs representative, Stephen Lim,
requesting that this particular application be continued until such time that they are able to
resolve some of the issues with the community. So staff would recommend that this application
be continued until we hear back from the applicant as to any kind of settlement or agreement that
they had reached with the community. Are there any questions at this time?
Oh, just to let you know, the subsequent agenda item, Item No. 3, is also for ContinentalÓs
request to do an 11-lot subdivision within the SMA, and that would be on the south side of the
ContinentalÓs property. That would be in this particular area. Because of noticing problems,
excuse me, the surrounding property owners were not notified by the applicant that this petition
was filed. We are pulling this application, the second application, from this agenda.
FUJIKAWA:YouÓre pulling it away for now?
HAYASHI:ThatÓs correct.
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FUJIKAWA:Thank you. Any questions, Commissioners, to the staff? None.
HAYASHI:IÓm looking at the Director. HeÓs trying to -.
FUJIKAWA:Director.
YUEN: ThereÓs one more thing we wanted to say about that, that you
received a recommendation that was sent out by clerical error. That was a draft that was done, a
working draft. It was never approved to be finally sent out.
HAYASHI:So if you can dispose of that recommendation that was sent to you
on the second application.
FUJIKAWA:Okay. Any questions, Commissioners. If not, the applicantÓs
representative, please step forward.
LIM:Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members.
FUJIKAWA:You want to raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell
the truth on the matter now before the Hawai'i Planning Commissi
LIM:I do.
FUJIKAWA:Thank you, you may proceed.
LIM:Thank you. IÓll be, I guess, making my statements relative
No. 2 and No. 3. As you know, the applicant in this matter at the Pepeekeo Point area has been
trying to work with the community. WeÓve not concluded those discussions. We had agreed to
the communityÓs request to continue the hearing and had hoped to meet with them sooner; but
that hasnÓt happened yet. So weÓre still willing to meet with them. Therefore, we made the
request for the continuance of the hearing. WeÓre not asking for a specific time to continue it
because we donÓt want to create this artificial rush to make this happen, while we do wish that
the community would be working with us to hopefully resolve some
On the Item No. 3, which is the south lots, SMA, that application was, we were set to notice the
adjoining property owners. The reason why we didnÓt was because the issues with the
community came up; and so we thought we didnÓt want to push another application on them.
And so what will happen is, should we proceed with that application, we would them file the
required notices prior to coming back with the Commission. And we do understand the
Planning DirectorÓs statements regarding the, disregarding the background and recommendation
that were sent out on those.
FUJIKAWA:Any questions, Commissioners, to the applicantÓs representative?
None. Okay, if not, we do have two people who have signed up, Pat Nimms and Jan Moon.
Would you step forward.
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Now your testimony, is it based on Item No. 3 or the -?
NIMMS:Actually itÓs based on the on-going access to the fishing areas, etc.
And I guess thatÓs what heÓs trying to address.
FUJIKAWA:This is mainly now, to clarify, mainly on the continued hearing on
this. Okay. And is there Jan Moon?
MOON:Yes.
FUJIKAWA:You want to step forward, too? Okay, both of you may step, sit
there. Okay. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawai'i
Planning Commission?
TESTIFIERS:I do.
FUJIKAWA: Thank you. You want to state your name and your address before
you proceed with your testimony.
NIMMS:Patricia Nimms, PO Box 951, Pepeekeo, Hawai'i. And my concern
is it seems like every time that Continental Pacific wants something from the community or the
Planning Commission, all of a sudden thereÓs plenty of access, driving access. As soon as they
get what they want, those gates go shut. I donÓt mind cause I walk down there, but there are a lot
of elderly people in the community that have been fishing there for generations. I donÓt think
that has still been adequately addressed. And, also, IÓm concerned about part of the property.
Because the way theyÓre running cattle there, theyÓve caused the erosion of the cliffs so much
that IÓm concerned in ten years that the cliffs are going to be at the property line of the people
from the setback. And I wondered what our rights are to access after that.
FUJIKAWA:Any questions, Commissioners, of the testifier? No questions. If
not, the next testifier you may give your name and your address,
MOON:IÓm Jan Moon, 1221 Lokoaka Street, Hilo. And IÓm speaking
the Sierra Club Conservation Committee. And weÓre concerned about the following: The coal
ash piles; and weÓre concerned that itÓs contributing to the pollution of Hilo Bay. And before
Continental PacificÓs application is approved, there must be a plan in place to remove the coal
ash. And we feel that it may be contaminated, it should not be spread around on the island,
unless it has been tested for contamination. And weÓre also concerned about shoreline access to
the fishing and tidal areas. They must retained and not discouraged. And gaps to allow
pedestrians through the fences need to be wide enough to get through, and older people need to
be able to access the shore. And then weÓre concerned about the social and economic justice.
The high-priced gated community is not appropriate because it would change the character of the
area and drive out people who can no longer afford to live in the area. And then weÓre concerned
about the diminishing of agriculture and agricultural resources. Land prices may rise to where
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farmers canÓt afford to buy there. Buyers may or may not farm l
agriculture. And thank you for your concerns.
FUJIKAWA:Any questions, Commissioners, to the testifiers? None, thank you
very much for your testimony. Will the applicant or representative please come forward. Do
you have any comments at this time?
LIM:WeÓve heard these issues raised before, and these are some of the
things weÓll be working with the community on.
FUJIKAWA:Thank you. Any questions, Commissioners, to the applicantÓs
representative? Thank you. Okay. Do I hear a motion to continue this application? WeÓll start
off with the continuance of the applicant on Item No. 2.
SPRINGER:Mr. Chair?
FUJIKAWA:Yes.
SPRINGER:I move that Continental Pacific LLC, SLU 03-006/
REZ 03-014/SMA 03-009, be continued until -.
FUJIKAWA:You want a Hilo meeting?
SPRINGER:Can that be done?
FUJIKAWA:Staff, would it be the Hilo scheduled -?
HAYASHI:Okay.
SPRINGER:The next scheduled Hilo meeting.
FUJIKAWA:Next scheduled Hilo meeting. Do I hear a second?
MINA:Second.
FUJIKAWA:It has been moved by Commissioner Springer and seconded
Commissioner Mina on this particular application, No. 2, SLU 03-006 and REZ 03-014 and
SMA 03-009, to be continued to the next Hilo meeting. Questions?
GRAHAM:Mr. Chairman?
FUJIKAWA:Commissioner Graham.
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GRAHAM:My understanding from the applicantÓs representative is that he
didnÓt really want to schedule the next hearing time. And so that if thatÓs correct, I would like to
suggest that Ms. Springer make it contingent until an unspecified future meeting in Hilo.
SPRINGER:Is that acceptable, Mr. Chair?
FUJIKAWA:Yeah, what dawn on me or came to my mind was the, is that okay
with the applicantÓs representative?
LIM:Yes. Normally we donÓt like to indefinitely continue, but in this
particular case, I think, we will need the time. What will happen is once we determine that we
would like to return to the Commission, we will renotice, you know, work with the Planning
Department to schedule a hearing in Hilo; ad then weÓll renotice the property owners as required
under the rules.
FUJIKAWA:So that will be okay with you then?
LIM:Yes.
SPRINGER:So this motion will be that this matter is continued un
contacted by the applicant for scheduling.
FUJIKAWA:Fine. Is that okay with you, Commissioner Graham?
GRAHAM:Yes.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, great. So go ahead, staff.
OÓTOOLE:Did Mina, I thought Mina seconded the motion.
MINA:I agree.
FUJIKAWA:Okay. You donÓt have any -?
MINA:No.
FUJIKAWA:Staff, you may proceed with the roll call.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Mina?
MINA:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Springer?
SPRINGER:Yes.
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HAYASHI:Commissioner Mina?
MINA:Aye.
FUJIKAWA:That will be Graham. Commissioner Graham made, oh, IÓm
Mina made the second. IÓm sorry. YouÓre correct.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Smith?
SMITH:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner McCall?
MCCALL:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Graham?
GRAHAM:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Thibadeau?
THIBADEAU:Aye.
HAYASHI:Chair Fujikawa?
FUJIKAWA:Aye.
HAYASHI:Mr. Chair, motion carries, seven to zero.
LIM:Thank you very much.
The discussion ended at 9:22 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon M. Nomura, Secretary
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