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REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
MAY 11, 2022
AUPUNI CENTER CONFERENCE ROOM
101 PAUAHI ST., HILO, HAWAFI
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Kosaki called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.
Present: Gerald Kosaki, Chair
Gregory Henkel, Commissioner
Shon Magsalin, Commissioner
Wesley Mattos, Commissioner
Gene Nakashima, Commissioner
Daniel Paleka, Commissioner
Carlene Wolf, Commissioner
A quorum was present.
Absent: Benjamin Agdeppa, Vice Chair
Corey Luke, Commissioner
Also present: Kazuo Todd, Fire Chief
Eric Moller, Deputy Fire Chief
Ian Smith, Assistant Chief
Palani Kurashige, Battalion Chief
Malia Kekai, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Charisse Correa, Secretary
Leanne Kapahu, Fire Chief's Secretary
PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (None.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• Commissioner Wolf motioned to approve the regular and executive session minutes
of April 13, 2022. Commissioner Henkel seconded, it carried unanimously, and the
minutes approved.
FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
• Budget: Chief Todd reported total spending through April 30, 2022 is at 87.08% with
83% of the fiscal year completed.
They are currently in phase two of revisions for the Hawaii County Fire Department's
budget. The initial budget looked at adding five or six positions; those were three
clerks, a safety specialist, and a permanent trainer position in dispatch. They are
currently looking at adding more positions, which would be approximately four
clerks, a safety specialist, an accountant III, creating six unfunded captain positions
and six unfunded equipment operator positions. These are placeholder positions and
may become live positions. The maintenance worker position previously requested
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has been approved. The fourth clerk will assist with maintenance tasks, record
requests and releases, tracking maintenance in the mechanic shop and assisting in
the warehouse. In addition to that, they will have a fire maintenance worker, who will
be responsible for the annual maintenance and repair requests. The audit revealed
that requests for maintenance hasn't been managed, so they will start tracking that
internally. They also added two part-time positions in dispatch that are funded and
four unfunded recruit training specialists that would be under the training bureau.
The department has been funding recruit training officer (RTO) positions with
overtime for decades. In the beginning of the fiscal year, they will start the process of
decreasing the overtime budget to start funding these positions and hire permanent
into the position.
Vice Chair Kosaki asked how can the department hire an RTO externally? Chief
Todd stated that it would be an internal specialist position, a promotion, and an SR-
19 position. Vice Chair Kosaki asked if they would be permanently assigned to
training and what would they be doing when there isn't any recruit training? Chief
stated that his goal is to bring their department's training section from 4-5 personnel
to 10. The goal is not to just train personnel in the beginning of their career; he
wants to provide continuous training. The chief further explained that there isn't
much coordination with anyone else in the department once you leave the training
section. They organize, but no one goes out to assist in training. He wants to build a
department where their training bureau is 1/3 of the process. They would bring a car,
and equipment, personnel won't have to take equipment off their rig, because that
impacts response times. The training bureau would bring all the equipment and
would provide training on -site, at the stations. Vice Chair Kosaki stated that it's all
good in theory, but there's tracking concerns. Another concern is when you go to
engine companies to train, if they're still online, you still have the problem with them
responding to calls. Chief Todd's response was that there's logistical issues that's
still on the way. If there were enough RTOs, they could possibly have a replacement
group come in, so they could respond to minor calls.
Chief Todd reported that eleven WSO positions would be moved up to full-time.
They still need to work this out with employees after July because some of them
might prefer the job being part-time, in which case they will probably create
unfunded positions and hire two part-timers.
Vice Chair Kosaki asked about the safety specialist position. Chief stated that it
would mirror Honolulu's safety specialist position. They will take the job description
from there and have something similar.
Chief Todd reported FY 21-22 budget was at $52.5 million. Budget going into next
year is estimated at $61.9 million. Unknown if this is the final budget going into next
year; the County Council may want to push for more positions in the Fire
Department or make other changes. Increases to their budget includes minimal
staffing, overtime, PPE funding, vehicle maintenance, and covers the increase to
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utilities. They also asked for money to fund the chaplaincy program. The Police
Department has been advocating and funding the program, the Fire Department has
been using it without contributing. They also received funding to support training for
Critical Incident Stress Management (CISM). Chopper 1's engine will need an
overhaul, so they put aside $1.4 million to facilitate that.
Commissioner Mattos asked if the total budget included the money received for EMS
and lifeguards. Chief Todd stated that the full amount of EMS funding does not show
up in their budget. They didn't have enough for ambulances, so he asked the state
legislatures for a $1.2 million increase, which was approved. This will go towards
equipment, five ambulances and automatic compression devices for CPR.
Commissioner Mattos asked about the raises. Chief Todd stated that the difference
in the total cost of this year to last year is accounted for in the budget. Vice Chair
Kosaki asked if the overtime is for emergency overtime or scheduled overtime. Chief
stated that it is for staffing overtime and holiday pay.
• Highlights: Chief Todd conducted station visitations and Coffee with the Chief.
Coffee with the Chief was streamed on YouTube and is still available to be viewed.
They spoke about his vision and discussed the Annual HFD Survey results.
Approximately 80-85% of the department is either satisfied or very satisfied with how
things are going. 10% do not care, 5% is unhappy, and 1 % is very unhappy. His goal
is to go out to all the stations, every four months and speak with personnel.
Vice Chair Kosaki asked what percentage of employees responded to the survey.
Chief stated they received 150 responses out of 400, which is good compared to
other surveys he put out in the past. He noted that the survey was not anonymous,
unknown if this affected it.
Chief Todd presented Battalion Chief Palani Kurashige with a challenge coin. Chief
Todd shared that while conducting station visitations, one of the stations praised BC
Kurashige. They have been facing severe issues in Eden Roc Estates, with vehicles
parked all over the road, preventing EMS access. They reached out to BC
Kurashige, who then worked with vehicle recovery, resolving the issue.
Chief Todd reported that a volunteer fire captain hit an HPD vehicle while
responding to a call in Pahala. HPD's vehicle may be totaled; the incident is still
being investigated. Currently, there's one criminal investigation within the
department due to harassment against an employee. They have a private
investigator looking into social media issues with different employees.
Human Resources: Chief Todd reported internal recruitments: a fire captain in
Emergency Communications, a fire captain in the Fire Prevention Bureau, a
storekeeper, and two account clerk positions, one will be temporary and the other
permanent.
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• Updates: Chief Todd reported that funds for the PGV SCBA compressor has been
transferred to an account for the department to access, they are proceeding with the
procurement process. The goal is to obtain built in units, tied into the building.
IT has been working on the conversion process from TradeGecko to Ecommerce
(inventory management platform).
They have been working on the Hawaii Fire Chief's Association conference in
December. The current plan is to have a mixed conference, which would be both
virtual and in person. One of the speakers there will be retired Fire Chief Bobby
Halton, who is the chief editor for Fire Engineering Magazine.
Commissioner Paleka motioned to meet in executive session to consider complaints
against employees of the fire department, where matters affecting privacy will be
involved, to work on the evaluation of the Fire Chief, and for the purpose of
consulting with the commission's attorney on questions and issues pertaining to the
commission's powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and liabilities pursuant to HRS
Sections 92-5, (a) (2) (4) (6) and the Hawaii County Charter 13-20 (b). Seconded by
Commissioner Magsalin, and it carried unanimously. Executive session convened at
9:45 a.m.
Commissioner Wolf left the meeting while in executive session at 10:10 a.m.
Regular session reconvened at 10:47 a.m.
CONSIDERATION AND INVESTIGATION OF COMPLAINTS (Briefly summarized)
• HCFC 22-02: Complainant, Alohalani Hope Cermlj alleges that she was lied to about
an arson investigation.
Ms. Cermlj came before the commission. She shared that she had lost everything
she owned due a house fire. She stated that Chief Todd, Deputy Chief Moller and
their crew were excellent, but she still lost everything. Ms. Cermelj stated that she
had to contact Chief Todd in order to have an arson investigation conducted. She
explained that one of his employees told her over the phone that they do not do
arson investigations on unpermitted structures. She asked for proof of this and this
employee hung up on her. She expressed her gratitude for Deputy Chief Moller and
Battalion Chief Kurashige, as they later responded and conducted an investigation.
She hopes that in the future, personnel receive better training and that this never
happens again to someone who has an unpermitted structure.
Chair Kosaki asked Ms. Cermelj if since then, the problem has been rectified and if it
has been clarified that they do conduct investigations for all fires. Ms. Cermelj stated
yes, it was remedied and they later conducted a very thorough investigation.
Battalion Chief Palani Kurashige came before the commission. Chair Kosaki asked if
he had spoken to the initial employee that Ms. Cermelj contacted, who told her that
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they do not do investigations on unpermitted structures. BC Kurashige stated that
she initially went to the fire station to ask for an investigation and the captain there
referred her to him. At that time, he was a week in as the acting battalion chief. His
understanding was that there was a memo stating that they were going to
concentrate on major fires, to include high dollar value loss and injuries or deaths
due to fires. Even as a captain prior to becoming the acting battalion chief, it was
known that unpermitted structures weren't going to be investigated without a reason.
She wasn't lied to, they do arson investigations, they just need to determine how to
best utilize their resources. About a week later, they did the investigation.
Commissioner Magsalin asked if arson investigations go to the police to investigate.
BC Kurashige explained that when it comes to fire investigations, they only
determine origin and cause. If the cause is determined to be an arson, they give the
case to police. A police officer initiated a case on their end and routed it to a
detective; the fire department is done at that point.
Commissioner Wolf returned to the meeting at 11:00 a.m.
Commissioner Paleka asked about the detective's findings. BC Kurashige stated
that the case was suspended. He explained that unless further information comes
forth, to determine that the case will continue to be investigated, they call it a
suspension. Until you get more information to continue the investigation, it will
remain suspended. This case is still open.
Chair Kosaki asked how fires to unpermitted structures would be handled in the
future. BC Kurashige stated that it is a case -by -case basis; the fire captain can make
the call. Usually you want an investigation for documentation purposes to recover
your loss, there is the record management system for that purpose. Captains are
capable of doing initial investigations and making that determination. He further
stated that this case was unique because of the previous memo that was sent out, it
was a misunderstanding.
UNFINISHED BUINESS
Amendment to the Fire Commission's Rules. Proposed amendments include the
following:
✓ Amendment to Rule 5(B)(1): Changes regular meetings from the second
Wednesday of each month to the fourth Thursday of each month, unless
otherwise specified by the Commission.
✓ Amendment to Rule 8(a): Extends the time to file a complaint from sixty (60)
days to ninety (90) days from the date of the incident.
Commissioner Paleka motioned to adopt the amendments, seconded by
Commissioner Henkel, all in favor, no oppositions. DCC Kekai stated the proposed
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amendments needs to be posted for thirty days. At the next meeting, the
commission would formally adopt the amendments.
Fire Commission Meetings at Council Chambers: Chief Todd stated that on June 23,
2022, Council Chambers is available at the West Hawaii Civic Center. Chair Kosaki
asked the commission if that date was open with everyone. There were no
oppositions. The next meeting will be rescheduled to June 23, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
• Fire Chief's Evaluation: Chair Kosaki stated the Fire Chief's Evaluation would be
completed by the end of the fiscal year. He further explained that Chief Todd would
be evaluated on several elements: leadership, communication, strategic planning,
resource allocation, safety, and emergency management operations. He requests
all responses to be submitted to Ms. Correa as soon as possible. Upon all
commissioners completing the evaluation, he will compile the draft, propose it to the
commission during July's meeting in executive session, and approve it before
presenting it to Chief Todd.
ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTERS
• Investigation of complaints
✓ HCFC 22-01: Complainant alleges that an EMT violated the privacy of her
family by disclosing details of her sister's emergency. Commissioner
Henkel motioned that this was a lawful occurrence, seconded by
Commissioner Paleka, and it carried unanimously. In light of all facts
present, the commission finds that the alleged incident was lawful and
proper.
✓ HCFC 22-02: Complainant alleges that she was lied to about an arson
investigation. Commissioner Paleka motioned that there is sufficient
evidence to support the complainant's allegations, but found no evidence
of wrongdoing, seconded by Commissioner Henkel and it carried
unanimously.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Kosaki announced that the next meeting is tentatively scheduled for June 23,
2022, at 9:00 a.m., at the West Hawaii Civic Center. Fire Chief Todd will be in contact
regarding holding the meeting at the Council Chambers.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Paleka motioned to adjourn, seconded by Commissioner Wolf, and it
carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 11:36 a.m.
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SUBMITTED BY: CHARISSE CORREA, SECRETARY
APPROVED BY: GERALD KOSAKI, CHAIR