HomeMy WebLinkAbout2022-07-07 Windward Exh C (Item 2 Hilo Senior Investments PL-REZ-2022-000021) WINDWARD PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI`I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
JULY 7, 2022
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of HILO SENIOR INVESTMENTS, LLC
(formerly Island Heritage Ventures, LLC)(PL-REZ-2022-000021) was called to order at
9:23 a.m. in the County of Hawaii Aupuni Center Conference Room, 101 Pauahi Street, Hilo,
Hawaii with Chair Dennis Lin presiding.
COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE: Dennis Lin, Gilbert Aguinaldo, Lauren Balog, John
C. Cross, Louis Daniele I11, and Wayne De Luz
ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Michelle Galimba
ALSO IN ATTENDANCE: Sinclair Salas-Ferguson Esq. (Counsel for the Commission), Jean
Campbell, Esq. (Counsel for the Planning Department), Zendo Kern (Planning Director),
Christian Kay (Planner), Clinton Mercado (Planner), Tracie-Lee Camero (Planner), Janice Hata
(Zoom Host), Maija Jackson (Planning Program Manager), and Melissa Dacayanan-Salvador
(Windward Planning Commission Secretary)
And eight members from the public in attendance.
APPLICANT: HILO SENIOR INVESTMENTS, LLC (FORMERLY ISLAND
HERITAGE VENTURES, LLC) (PL-REZ-2022-000021)
Application for an amendment to Condition C (Time to Secure Final Subdivision Approval) of
Change of Zone Ordinance No. 17-24, which rezoned approximately 7.402 acres of land from
Single-Family Residential-10,000 Square Feet(RS-10) to Neighborhood Commercial-7,500
Square Feet(CN-7.5). The subject property is located on the southeast side of the intersection of
Kanoelehua Avenue (Highway 11) and East Kahaopea Street, Waiakea Homestead House Lots,
South Hilo, Hawaii, TMK: (3) 2-2-044:031, 032, 035 and 037.
Secretary's Note: "—" indicates that there were technical and/or internet difficulties, which made
the conversation inaudible.
LIN: All right, now we will move on to agenda Item 42. Applicant is Hilo Senior Investments,
LLC formerly Island Heritage Ventures, LLC. Application number PL-REZ-2022-000021.
Application for an amendment to Condition C (Time to Secure Final Subdivision Approval) of
Change of Zone, of Zone Ordinance No. 17-24, which rezoned approximately 7.402 acres of
land from Single-Family Residential-10,000 square feet(RS-10) to Neighborhood Commercial-
7,500 square feet(CN-7.5). The subject property is located on the southeast side of the
intersection of Kanoelehua Avenue (Highway 11) and East Kahaopea Street, Waiakea
Homestead House Lots, South Hilo, Hawaii, TMK: (3) 2-2-044: parcels number 031, 032, 035
and 037. Sorry,just a quick change here. Is there anybody here that wants to testify on this
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matter? Okay seeing none. Okay I will continue then, thank you. At this time, I'll call up staff
presentation Maija Jackson, please go ahead.
JACKSON: Thank you Chair. Good morning, commissioners. So, the next item is an
amendment to a Change of Zone ordinance. The subject property is located in the South Hilo
District. You can see the property outlined in black on this slide. Give me just a moment I have
not used this clicker in years since we've been on Zoom. Let me try to point you to the, there we
go. Okay, so this is the subject property outlined in black. You have Kahaopea Street running
east west on the north side of the property and Kanoelehua Avenue running along the west side
of the property in a north south direction. The property is currently zone Neighborhood
Commercial-7,500 square feet. And the General Plan designation for the property is Low
Density Urban. I believe when the zoning was originally granted in 1996, the Director at that
time interpreted the General Plan map to allow for CN zoning. They interpreted as High Density
Urban extending across the intersection.
Let's see, this is an aerial view of the property. You can see it is primarily covered in vegetation.
The testifier, Mr. Doi lives on this property here and I'm just going to go back to show you Mr.
Doi's property is located here. And he accesses Kahaopea Street through an easement along the
subject or through the subject property out to Kahaopea Street here. There is a drainage way that
runs through the property generally in this area here and then a culvert that crosses Kahaopea
Street generally in this area. You can see the surrounding area is residential to the east and north
and then across the street kitty-corner is the Puainako Town Center with like Baskin Robbins,
Subway at the corner and then an auto parts store here.
So, back in I think 2017, when the prior rezoned amendment occurred. At the same time the
owner, the landowner had a partner I guess that wanted to develop a 120-bed assisted living
facility. So, in 2017 they applied for a Use Permit and the Planning Commission granted that
Use Permit for the care facility and then at the same time they received the zoning amendment
for a time extension to secure subdivision approval. The plans have not changed since then and
the applicant has been working diligently in realizing those plans. So, this is essentially the site
plan they had back in 2017 and it's the same site plan now. You can see Kahaopea Street on the
left side of the slide, and Kanoelehua on the bottom. In the corner, you have the retail
commercial component. There's a parking lot here and then this large structure in the middle of
the property is the 120-bed assisted living facility.
So, access would be off of Kahaopea Street here and then that will lead to the parking lot for the
retail as well as several parking lots supporting the assisted living facility and then access to Mr.
Doi's property which is here. I believe this dark gray area is generally where the floodway is
and then the purple area is a wastewater treatment plant for the development.
So, the applicant is requesting to amend Condition C for a five (5)-year time extension to secure
final subdivision approval to consolidate and resubdivide the property. As I mentioned the
applicant has been working diligently to complete development of the assisted living
facility and the retail commercial uses on the property. They've received Master Plan approval
in 2021 as well as tentative subdivision approval and drainage plans for on-site improvements.
Remaining approvals that are needed are for additional drainage way improvements. They'll
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have to get approval for that from Department of Public Works (DPW) and Federal Emergency
Management Agency (FEMA). As well as State DOT approval for traffic improvements and
final plan approval from Planning and building permits and construction plan approval from
DPW.
This is a view of the property from Kahaopea Street looking west towards the highway. You can
see the low spot here in the road and then the road rises up to the highway. Access to the
property would be generally in this location here. And then this is a view standing on Kahaopea
looking into the property. You can see that part of the property is cleared and then there are
several invasive non-native trees and shrubs on the property. And then this is a view standing
across the property generally near where the Subway and Baskin Robbins is and then you can see
the highway and the property with the palm trees another invasives and then is Kahaopea going
down into the property.
The Planning Director is recommending the Commission forward a favorable recommendation
to the County Council to amend Condition C of Ordinance 17 24. And with that I'll turn it back
over to Chair. Thank you.
LIN: Thank you Maija. May I please have the applicant or the applicant's representative come
up to the table. Please raise your right hands so I can swear you in. Do you swear or affirm to
tell the truth on this matter before the Windward Planning Commission?
APPLICANT/APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE: I do.
LIN: Please state your name and the town you live in. Also have you received the background
and recommendation reports from the Planning Department, and do you agree with the Planning
Director's recommendation including proposed conditions?
YEH: Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the Commission, Planning Director, and staff.
My name is Tom Yeh, attorney for the applicant and then to my right is John Dewald who is the
principal of the applicant. Yeah, we've looked over the conditions and the background report
and wanted to thank staff and Planning Director for putting that together. Have no objections to
the conditions as written and I just also wanted to say one of the assertion insertions was to allow
for an administrative time extension. Instead of having to go back to the Council.
If I may have a moment just to speak a little bit more about the applicants, the applications and
some of the issues that have been discussed earlier today. It wasn't the applicant that has been
involved in any kind of grubbing or grading activity or fill material that was a predecessor in
interest. For your information back in February of 2018, FEMA did issue a conditional letter of
map revision that allows the work in the drainage area to occur, and that work will allow
additional building area to put the 120-bed assisted living facility on site. The conditions as they
now stand and as they will stand once the extension is granted does require that in order for the
Certificate of Occupancy to be issued for this 120-bed assisted living facility or for any bond for
subdivision approval to be released that the FEMA people need to issue the final letter of map
revision. Meaning that the work is been completed in accordance with the plans that are
approved in the conditional letter of map revision. So that's the process that we are working
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through. Mr. Doi understandably has issues about, concerns about drainage which are being
resolved. Those plans have been approved and now it's really a matter of moving forward.
Part of the reason for getting this time extension as you know we ran through Covid, we had a
lava flow, we've had a change in the administrations and agencies and the current hang up seems
to be working with Engineering Division from Public Works and/or Traffic Division and DOT.
Which is not a tough, not an easy nut to crack to get an agreement on how these intersection
improvements occur because Kahaopea is County and Kanoelehua is State. So, getting to agree
on what kind of striping or signage or intersection improvements should be there has been taking
some time no small amount of time.
So, I think that's about it. Mr. Doi acquired the property from Stephanie Salazar a couple years
ago. We have a memo of agreement that resolved the easement issues how that access is to be
taken in conjunction with the development. Also, there's a twenty-two thousand (22,000) square
foot lot on the back side of Mr. Doi's property that once the subdivision is done the applicants is
agreed to convey that to him and he can "—". Thank you.
So. Mr. Dewald may have some things to add I'm not sure, but we will open it up for questions
also.
DEWALD: I would like to thank you for your time. One other addition to the report is there
was an archaeological study that was done for the site. So, I just wanted to make that correction.
LIN: Thank you. Commissioners do you have any questions for the applicant or the applicant's
representative at this time or for staff?
DE LUZ: Chair,just one quick question for Mr. Yeh.
LIN: Go ahead Commissioner De Luz.
DE LUZ: So, the,just to reiterate your hang up has been how the road is going to work for the
subdivision. Is that correct?
YEH: That certainly a good part of what we are waiting for now is to get that approval.
DE LUZ: Yes, from the plan I looked at and information provided it looks like your basic
subdivision is ready to go.
YEH: Correct.
DE LUZ: And you just need to workout the access onto the Kahaopea Street and coming up to
Kanoelehua.
YEH: That's correct.
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DE LUZ: So, the easement I see on the front, that still will exist, the one that comes off
Kahaopea on the top right by Kanoeehua or is that being eliminated. I couldn't quite make that
out.
YEH: Yeah, the current easement for Mr. Doi's property runs parallel and adjacent to
Kanoelehua. There's going to be a commercial site on that corner about thirty thousand (30,000)
square feet.
DEWALD: Fourteen (14)
YEH: Okay, 14. Okay, and then, thank you. And then there's going to be a roadway that cuts
through diagonally to get to another location because really if you look at where the current
easement is now where it comes right out of the corner. It's not, it's not a real safe one because
it's so close to turning intersection component. So, moving that access a little bit further into
Kahaopea is a much safer access for everybody. So that's the plan right now and that's part of
the subdivision plan. I believe that is, that's actually depicted in Exhibit 1 of the background
report information that was provided. So, you'll see where that access is proposed to come out.
Now, there will be an emergency access, another emergency access if needed which is a little bit
closer to the intersection but most of the time that's going to be gated.
DE LUZ: Thank you. No, that's excellent. Good luck with the DOT, I've dealt with them
before. So, I can see why it's taking so long. Thank you. I can see it now on the map. Thank
you.
YEH: Yeah, and you know it's really more personnel change, there were these discussions and
tacit agreements but never really documented in writing and then we have administration
changes and now it's kind of restarting that whole process again.
DE LUZ: Is Kahaopea part of the State or is it more Kanoelehua?
YEH: Kanoelehua.
DE LUZ: Okay, so the County is on —
YEH: Kahaopea.
DE LUZ: — Kahaopea. Okay.
YEH: So, you've got some overlap of jurisdictions there.
DE LUZ: Right, right, thank you.
LIN: Any other questions for the applicant or the applicant's representative?
AGUINALDO: Mr. Chair, I do.
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LIN: Go ahead.
AGUINALDO: For the applicant and the applicant's representative, I guess, you had a testifier
indicating of material bringing brought to the property. So, he's concerned because in the back
there going down on Kahaopea when it rains hard it does flood. So, he has an access easement,
Russell has an access easement to his property. When you bring in material depending on the
size of the area. You guys are bringing material or grubbing have you guys acquired a grading
or grubbing permit to just cover your guys tushy because you guys are close to a flood zone
right. You see where I'm coming from.
YEH: Yep.
AGUINALDO: So, you know it's just for him because he probably drives there every day,
going and seeing material being brought in. From the time extension to wherever you guys are at
now, are you guys taking proper mitigation as far as runoffs or what not. Because right across
the street, I remember when there was a big flood long time ago, shucks even that house got
flooded and the house sits pretty high. You know just addressing that, it's a great concept what
you are trying to do. My question is again, have you guys take, you know I mean a grubbing or
grading permit to satisfy FEMA right.
YEH: Yes. So, basically the way the process works is FEMA issued its conditional letter of
map revision based on plans for dealing with this drainage issue and grading plans have been
provided and prepared and are being submitted to Public Works in compliance or consistent with
those FEMA approved plans. We've also gotten the right-of-entry from the neighbors who are
makai of the property because we need to go in there and do some work too as part of that. The
idea is help focus, concentrate, and minimize any issues of drainage. It's just a matter of water.
Where does this water come from? It comes from up above. I believe it's Waiakea Stream kind
of water that the County has for some time also been kind of dealing with. So, it's kind of a host
of factors that contribute to this. But, yes, grading permit,part of the construction drawings and
plans in order to get final approval we are going to need to complete those before we can even
get final approval or bonded.
AGUINALDO: Okay, so, you guys do have at least a grubbing permit?
YEH: It's coming.
AGUINALDO: Okay.
YEH: It's coming. Yes. But the client or the applicant was not responsible for bringing fill in
and I just need to make that clear. That is not been the case.
AGUINALDO: Okay.
YEH: It was a predecessor owner.
AGUINALDO: Oh, previously.
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YEH: Previous, yeah.
AGUINALDO: Okay, got it. Okay, I'm good.
LIN: Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. I guess, have any of you have other questions or
comments? Commissioner Cross?
CROSS: There used to be an old Murray Air crop duster plane on that property. I'd like to
know where that is.
DOL (From the audience.), It's still there.
YEH: We are not sure who brought that onto the property, I'm not saying so.
CROSS: All covered up with weeds right now.
YEH: I think remnants of it are still there. Those are going to be cleared out as part of the
development process.
CROSS: That's part of my history.
YEH: Okay.
LIN: Thank you. Any other questions or comments for the applicant or the applicant's
representative? I do recognize the Mr. Doi you have your hand up. If my fellow commissioners
would like Mr. Doi to respond or comment that is up to the commissioners.
DANIELE: Yeah, I have a question about his access. You said there is an easement through the
property for him and will that easement, is that easement getting moved or is it staying in place?
YEH: It's being moved.
DOL (From the audience.), you cannot move that. That is land court land.
YEH: Okay, alright.
DOL (From the audience.) You no can move that.
YEH: Well, we've already deregistered the land itself. So, it's now regular system land and
then back in 2018 in June. There was a memorandum of agreement that specifically references
the movement of the easement and its new location. So, that is already recorded in Land Court
as well before the deregistration. So, there is an agreement in place to do that. It's not like we
are running roughshod over anybody.
LIN: Thank you.
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DANIELE: Thank you.
LIN: Mr. Doi, as the Commissioners would like for you to comment, you can come up.
DOI: Yeah, talking about the fill. Even if the previous owner brought the material in, it's still
there and if they did it illegally. This guy shouldn't just be able to let it go and no do nothing
about it. You understand what I'm trying to say. And like I said, it's still in a flood zone yet and
that went affect from the last flood that had my neighbor's house went get under water and about
five (5)vehicles on my property went under water. There was a Public Works guy came and he
said nothing wrong but, that was when Billy or Harry was Mayor and Roland guys had ties with
that. So,just like they went run it under the table. But when I went to Public Works, Public
Works said had no permit for bringing that material on the property. So, something should be
done about that. That shouldn't just be run over and make believe nothing went happen.
Furthermore, these guys tell they can move my easement. They no can move my easement
because when that property they not supposed to had change the easement on the land. Cause
what I understand that was a Land Court land and the easement was on the Land Court papers.
And now they telling that they can move the easement, I don't think so, something is wrong
there, you know. But, mostly is the material in the flood zone and when they brought the old
hospital to, rubble from the old hospital to the property. That was a lot of cubic yards and I went
grumble at that time too and nothing went happen. So maybe now with Roth as Mayor,
something going happen. But before they can shot um' under the table and just like nothing.
Because me, I only a small potato they can do that. But as time going by all these big guys who
do anything they like even in Honolulu. When you look at Kealoha and all the Planning guys
everything catch up and then things change.
I'm sure all that even when happen on this island from Jay Kimura, Lincoln —
LIN: Okay, thank you Mr. Doi. At this time, I want to give the Commissioners an opportunity
to ask you some questions.
DOI: Okay.
LIN: Because I know that some of them had some questions. So, I believe Commissioner
Daniele, you had a question for Mr. Doi?
DANIELE: No.
LIN: No, okay. Mr. De Luz?
DE LUZ: Thank you Chair. Mr. Doi don't you think that changing that access will make it safer
for you because it's really a bad, that's why I asked Mr. Yeh about that. Because it's dangerous.
Already you guys are on a hill, right? Kahaopea, right by the light and they're trying to make it
safer for you to access your property.
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DOI: I'm good. Maybe fifty (50) guys going use that driveway then maybe going be one whole
different thing, but if just only me I convenient with where the driveway going in and out. I've
been using that for my whole life already and I've been there—
DE LUZ: No, no, I appreciate that—
DOI: —maybe sixty (60)years.
DE LUZ: —but they are going to try to improve the property, you going to have a lot of people
coming in and out right. And it just makes it more dangerous so, they trying to make it easier for
everyone and there's going to be more traffic yeah coming in and out of that property. So, I'm
just asking you, you don't think that's a better design?
DOI: Well, I'm happy with the way it is now, you know.
DE LUZ: But that's not the question I asked you.
DOI: It's safe for me you know I—
DE LUZ: Yeah, but it's not only you. What I'm asking you, don't you think that it's safer for
everyone?
DOI: Well, what I told them is if they like I move my access. I put my hand out and they gotta
put something inside. But now these guys they like do everything on the way they like. What
can I say, you know?
DE LUZ: Well, I think it's safer.
DOI: I told him, they went offer three (3) million for the land maybe about fifteen (15) years ago
and I went decline the offer okay. So, now they like develop the land I told them what about
forking up the money then and I'll pull out of there. But they said, oh, we no can fork up the
money. So, if they no like pay, why they going play. You understand what I'm trying to say.
DE LUZ: Well, yeah, you are holding them hostage, I understand.
DOI: Yeah.
DE LUZ: Right.
DOI: Well, but they went offer already when they first wanted to develop. No was these guys
but whoever Roland went bring went offer and I went turn um' down the money. And that was
years ago.
DE LUZ: Well, okay. That's a separate issue but I just was asking you basically Mr. Doi, I
mean, obviously if you don't believe it's safer, I understand. But obviously you have a different
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alternative but, I believe it's safer for the whole subdivision to take that approach in moving the
entrance. So, I just wanted your opinion. Thank you Chair.
LIN: Thank you Commissioner De Luz. Thank you, Mr. Doi.
DOI: That's all?
LIN: Thank you.
DOI: Okay, thank you.
LIN: Applicant or the applicant representative, did you have any further comments or remarks?
YEH: My understanding on the history of what Mr. Doi is talking about is he asked if there was
a willingness to acquire his property. I'm not sure what discussions went further than that. But
really, seriously at this time the applicant has enough on its hands in terms of developing what's
there. There may come a time that there's a need to obtain additional property. There's already
been a give so to speak because there is a lot that's going to get conveyed. But other than that,
we're board good on the issues otherwise. Thank you.
AGUINALDO: Mr. Chair, I have a question for the applicant and the representative?
LIN: Go ahead, Commissioner Aguinaldo.
AGUINALDO: Just because of Russell. Do you guys have whatever access or easement or
whatever his pre-existing driveway is right now. And I remember like what Mr. De Luz was
indicating is for his safety. Do you guys have a drawing, is it on your guys site plan Al for his
access relocation. How he's going to get in and out of his property?
YEH: Yes. That's on Exhibit 1, it shows that—
AGUINALDO: Exhibit 1.
YEH: — access.
JACKSON: We'll pull that up.
AGUINALDO: Okay, yeah. Thank you.
YEH: It should be Exhibit 1 to the Background Report. So, using, excuse, using the pointer.
This is the current access to Mr. Doi's property here. As you can see the location is very close to
the intersection so when you have people coming right in particularly it's not a good, safe
alternative. So, the proposed traffic access or easement access would be shifted to this area and
come out over here. That's where the new access would be. So, obviously from a design and
safety standpoint given the kind of traffic that is going to be generated it's not going to be
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substantial. But, regardless whether it's staff or employees or visitors to this assisted living
facility or the commercial site. We really don't want traffic coming in and out of that location.
AGUINALDO: I see. So, that's the proposed in and out of the development. So, Russell's
property is by looking at that map is on that white area where you have all the contours, right
there.
YEH: Yes.
AGUINALDO: So, in the future I would appreciate if you guys doing that for this site plan. Just
indicate that for him because by looking at it, if I'm looking at it, I don't see where he's going to
get in and out. Because all I see the arrows is, there is no like an approach or a driveway. So at
least he sees it for himself because if I am looking at, I look like I'm land locked.
YEH: I see.
AGUINALDO: Yeah. So,just,just you know.
YEH: I appreciate that because obviously his lot abuts the boundary of the property where that
access is going to be so, he'll have direct access along that frontage.
AGUINALDO: Right. Okay. I think, I good. Yeah.
LIN: Thank you Commissioner Aguinaldo.
AGUINALDO: Thank you
LIN: Okay, so Commissioners we need a motion and a second before we can discuss further.
So, may I hear a motion for action.
DE LUZ: I move that a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council on the
application for a Change of Zone, Docket No. REZ 2022-021, based on the Planning Director's
recommendation, which shall be adopted.
LIN: Is there a second?
DANIELE: I'll second that.
LIN: It's been moved by Commissioner De Luz and seconded by Commissioner Daniele for a
favorable recommendation. Commissioners any discussion on the motion? If there is no
discussion, staff may I please get a roll call vote.
JACKSON: Yes. Commissioner De Luz?
DE LUZ: Aye.
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JACKSON: Commissioner Daniele?
DANIELE: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Aguinaldo?
AGUINALDO: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Balog?
BALOG: Aye.
JACKSON: Commissioner Cross?
CROSS: Aye.
JACKSON: And Chair Lin?
LIN: Aye.
JACKSON: Okay, the motion carries six—zero.
LIN: Thank you. You'll be notified in writing.
YEH: Thank you.
DEWALD: Thank you.
YEH: Thank you for your consideration.
The item ended at 9:56 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Melissa Dacayanan-Salvador, Secretary
Windward Planning Commission
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