HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-04-21 Leeward Exh A - Parker Ranch
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of was
PARKER RANCH, INC. (REZ 08-83)
5044 Ane Keohokalole Highway, Kailua-Kona, Hawaii, with Chair G
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geraldine Giffin, Lani Bowman, Thomas Hic
Wayne Iokepa
ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Brandi Beaudet, Richard Nelson and Thomas Wh
STAFF PRESENT: Julie Mecklenburg (Deputy Corporation Counsel), M
(Deputy Planning Director), Daryn Arai (Planning Program Manager
and Maija Cottle (Staff Planner)
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS: Kiran Emler (Engineering Division)
And approximately 18 people from the public in attendance.
APPLICANT: PARKER RANCH, INC. (REZ 08-83)
7,500 square feet (RS-7.5) and Village Commercial-7,500 square f
7,500 square feet (RS-7.5) and Village Commercial-7,500 square f
7.5) and Village Commercial-7,500 square feet (CV-7.5) for appro
properties are located southwest of the Parker Ranch Center, bet
Middle School and the Ala hia (Connector Road), Waimea Village, Waimea, South Kohala,
Hawaii, TMK: 6-7-002: por 015 and por 064, 6-7-008: por 093.
GIFFIN: Id like to move on to Agenda Item No. 1. The applicant
for a change of zone from Agricultural-40 acre (A-40) to Single-
10,000 square feet (RS-10) to Agricultural-40 acre (A-40a), Sing
feet (RS-7.5) and Village Commercial-7,500 square feet (CV-7.5);
Residential-5,000 square feet (RM-5) to Single-Family Residentia
Commercial, finally, 7,500 square feet (CV-7.5). And before I go
thing up, I think Im going to call on our staff, Maija.
COTTLE: Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, everyone, and welc
Hawaii Civic Center. This is our first meeting being held in th
Thank you for bearing with us.
GIFFIN: Thank you.
COTTLE: The first item is an application for change of zone. The
applicant is requesting some minor zoning adjustments in order t
lands involved in a land exchange between the applicant and the
land exchange is being done in order for the applicant to fulfil
ordinance this was the ordinance to rezone all of the Waimea t
was originally adopted in 1996, I believe, and was updated in 20
requested from Parker Ranch that when they transfer the land ove
that it be rezoned Single-Family Residential. So this change of
request from DOE. The request will also facilitate the eventual
extension, and this was also a condition that Parker Ranch neede
rezone; the original rezone required that Lindsey Road extension
development of the surrounding commercial rezoned lands.
The subject properties, theres actually three parcels involved
one of them is owned by the Department of Education, or the Stat
outlined but Im going to outline with my cursor here its cur
and you can see it here. The Waimea Elementary School is current
then the other two parcels involved in the request are just belo
connector road here, as well as this parcel here thats owned by
school site and the property south of the connector road are cur
and this property here has split zoning its actually zoned Mu
feet, as well as Single-Family Residential 10,000 square feet an
feet.
So the proposed zoning changes are to change Lot 1, which is cur
to Single-Family Residential 7,500 square feet, which would be c
property just north of it, and then to rezone Lot 2 from Agricul
7,500 square feet, to rezone Lot 3 from Multi-Family Residential
7,500 square feet, and Lot 5 from Multi-Family Residential to Vi
Single-Family Residential to Single-Family Residential 7,500 squ
density, Lot 5 from Multi-Family Residential to Village Commerci
Residential to Village Commercial, Lot 7 from Single-Family Resi
So what this will look like after the zoning adjustments are mad
Road extension alignment is shifted from where it was over here
entire school property will be zoned Single-Family Residential 7
Ranch property north of the connector road will be Village Comme
this little sliver to the south will be changed to Agricultural
contiguous parcel. So it just creates zoning that is consistent
I want to go back to the previous slide and just show you the la
So Lot 2, which is this little sliver here, is currently owned b
currently owned by the Department of Education; this little sliv
Parker Ranch. And then Lot 3 and Lot 4 down at the bottom here,
Parker Ranch, would be transferred over to the State. And then i
youll kind of see that here the State would receive this land a
little sliver in order to realign Lindsey Road.
This is an aerial photo of Waimea Town Center. Again, you can semalahoa Highway, and
the Lindsey Road extension would be coming off of here. Currentl
was planned further east to extend to meet up with the connector
eventually extend further south to where the Waimea Bypass may e
plan would shift the road further west, so it would end up on th
preserve to the south of the connector road. And then you have t
here.
The Planning Director is recommending a favorable recommendation
change of zone request. We also, as you know, have distributed a
this revision adds a new Condition D, it modifies Condition D, a
testimony presented by the Department of Education. They submitt
confusion about what access restrictions we were requesting, and
language there. But in talking to the representative from the De
morning, we would like to further revise that to delete the seco
now just read, Access to and from Ala hia and the Lindsey Road Extension including the
location and number of accesses as well as improvements and supp
improvements shall meet with the approval of the Department of P
the conditions throughout, we added the words, successors or as
future owns the land and develops the land is held responsible f
You also have received several letters from the community. And I
one, but the ones that you received prior to today, to this morn
out, were from Hawaii Preparatory Academy, Hawaii Community Fo
letters from the Department of Education, two letters from Marga
Hunter and one letter from Linda Copman.
That concludes our presentation. Does the Commission have any qu
GIFFIN: Commissioners, do you have any questions of Maija? I wou
introducing Ki Emler. I just, you mentioned Public Works, and I
Ki. Ki is our representative for the Public Works. Commissioners
of the letters from the public?
COMMISSIONERS: Yes.
GIFFIN: Okay. Hearing no comments for our staff by the commissio
applicant and/or the representative of Parker Ranch, the first a
GUILLOZ: Good morning.
GIFFIN: Good morning. Will you please raise your right hand, so
swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the
Commission?
GUILLOZ: I do.
WITTEN: I do.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Could you please state your name, starting wi
GUILLOZ: My name is Nahua Guilloz, and I represent Parker Ranch.
GIFFIN: Thank you.
WITTEN: Tom Witten with PBR Hawaii, planning consultant for Par
GIFFIN: Thank you, Tom. You heard what Maija just said and how s
regarding the agenda item and the proposed change of zone. Is th
explain further? Is there anymore you would like to comment on?
address the reasons why. It was really nice to see the second sl
up all the different, you know, ownerships and zonings. But if y
would really be helpful.
WITTEN: Certainly.
GIFFIN: Thank you.
WITTEN: And I very much appreciate Maijas presentation, as it w
good overview of the proposed minor zoning adjustment. I think,
sort of a cleanup type of zoning action the result of several,
the Waimea Town Center.
First off, the intent and desire to expand the elementary and mi
Ranchs agreement to go along with that, they entered into agree
Education, I think in 2000, to move forward with the proposed ex
exchange, the Lindsey Road, through the planning and design with
done from the original planning effort, determined that Lindsey
served to be adjusted to the north, closer to the elementary sch
Preserve that is just, I guess, west of the connector road, that
reference slide, its the purple area, the Ag-40a. So that road
Road that was further to the east, I guess, north and east, as s
shifted over. The result of that based on the prior zoning creat
zonings, and even the connector road alignment was adjusted in f
from the original zoning. So the result of all those various exi
that up really results in a very minor adjustment. Well, I guess
related to that, the DOE had requested of us to change their exi
parcel to clean that up from Ag-40a to RS. They, in the agreemen
zoned RS, Single-Family, and that subsequently they go for a con
and develop their campus. So we included them, which appears to
which, you know, the majority of it is planned for school and no
adjustments that result, from Parker Ranch perspective, is a net
than one acre approximately a seven-tenth of an acre is the ne
of approximately 4.6 acres of developable area primarily attribu
And the land, and a portion of the land, 0.8 acres of land that
proposed to be provided in the land exchange with DOE, that 0.8
actually become developable after you take out the Lindsey Road
take out the Lindsey Road extension, the net acres significantly
the expanded Waimea Field System Archaeological Preserve Area, t
less than one acre, 0.7 acres, of developable land within the Wa
Ranchs perspective.
I think in the context of this adjustment, the Waimea Town Cente
approvals previously granted provide for the conditional approva
road segments would be improved, including the extension of Lind
planned, ultimately the Waimea Town Center will provide good con
expanded Town Center area, and as provided in the prior approval
alluded to that exactly when the Lindsey Road extension would
commercial development that would cause that to happen.
Consistent with the Countys requirements, a traffic impact asse
of this change of zone. And that was done in satisfaction of the
consultation with the County, and concluded that no improvements
this rezoning. The scope and extent and assumptions built into t
consultation with the Planning Department and the conclusions ha
application.
Related to the specific, the favorable recommendation provided f
conditions, there are a couple of conditions that we would like
consideration of the Commission -.
GIFFIN: Excuse me, Tom, do you have the new one that we just got
WITTEN: Yes, I do.
GIFFIN: Okay.
WITTEN: I do have a copy of the new one.
GIFFIN: Okay.
WITTEN: And generally, the housekeeping items from Condition E t
acceptable to Parker Ranch. The adjustment to Condition D, as wa
discussions with the County, and we concur with the revision. I
issue, and we concur with their concern that until the campus is
want to limit the access opportunities for that planning, and I
that ultimately the County, as all these will ultimately be Coun
jurisdiction and be in consultation with the Department of Educa
to provide with access to the campus; so we concur with the prop
area that we are concerned about is Condition C, and because tha
easement U-1. There is an easement that was reserved through the
the campus for DOE, and in the agreement between Parker Ranch an
that speak specifically to opportunities for either party to imp
Im aware, there is no implied language that the road would ulti
dedicated to the County; it was always as an easement reserved t
and utilities through that corridor. Parker Ranch has a temporar
would be ultimately improved when needed. But it wasnt, as far
Ranch is concerned, it wasnt a, to be consistent with the agree
commitment that the road would be constructed and dedicated to C
the County. So we have proposed revisions to that condition, whi
with. But we basically want to go on record to state that we are
to have a clear reference to the commitments as far as Easement
conformance with the Waimea Development Agreement between Parker
Hawaii, dated 2000, and that there is no, and that the referenc
be deleted from that. I do have a proposed language that weve p
Department, if the Commission desires to make an amendment to th
you know, wed appreciate your favorable recommendation and movi
cleaned up, get the zoning cleaned up, as Maija has pointed out.
proceed with the remaining steps to complete the land exchange w
forward with their planning for their campus expansion.
GIFFIN: Thank you. What I was going to do this morning was, when
people that did sign up to testify go ahead and give public test
people who have turned in written testimony and are here this mo
to also testify. But since you raised this question regarding th
would be really a good idea to hear from Maija or Jeff or Daryn
proposal, the Planning Directors proposal for Condition C to no
just spoke up. And could we do that now, please, since we are on
have something that we can put up or Maija can speak up, so that
the wording as well?
COTTLE: I could read the wording. Thats the only copy that we r
here, so I can read the wording.
GIFFIN: Okay, good. All right. Commissioners, Im going to pass
follow along with Maija the conditions that the Ranch proposed
came up with for Condition No. C. Okay.
COTTLE: So let me read the condition, and then Ill explain the
applicants proposed revision reads, The applicant, its success
within easement U-1 in conformance with the Waimea Development A
Ranch and the State of Hawaii, Department of Education, dated J
be constructed prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy f
building permit(s) for residential structures on the RS-7.5 zone
or the easement thats been referred to, is right in this area h
agreement between DOE and Parker Ranch states that if the school
are only obligated to construct it from the entrance, from the L
entrance of the expanded school campus; so the DOE is not obliga
agreement to create a divider road here and extend it all the wa
reason why we worded the condition the way we did is because the
Development Plan actually does call out for that road, which is
constructed as a divider road and a connector road from the subd
extension. So, to be consistent with the CDP, thats why we are
road. Whenever we write conditions for zoning, the condition run
worded in a way so that whoever owns or develops the land is res
conditions. So although DOE and Parker Ranch have their own agre
be amended in the future, if they chose, we dont want to refer
obligation to build the road as a connector road through stands
develops this property. Does that make sense, or do you have a q
GIFFIN: I dont, but maybe the other Commissioner do. Commission
you might have a question.
BOWMAN: Im okay. I always look puzzled.
GIFFIN: No. Anybody else? Any other Commissioners? I appreciate
want to say something more?
COTTLE: I do. So we kind of see this as an issue that more needs
and Parker Ranch of whose obligation it would be to build the ro
what time.
GIFFIN: Thank you. No more questions? You are clear then, Commis
Department came up with their version of Condition C in referenc
you, Maija. Commissioners, any other questions of Tom or Nahua?
people who have signed up to testify, and so Id like to move on
the opportunity to come back and answer any of their concerns, w
may have represented or how you feel.
WITTEN: Thank you very much.
GIFFIN: Youre welcome. The first person who signed up also subm
Mike Price, will you please come forward? Good morning, again.
PRICE: Good morning.
GIFFIN: Also, I think what I would like to do is call up Sherm W
2, and Mr. Warner has also submitted written testimony so, Commi
that. If you are like me, Ive got a stack here out of sequence,
minute or two. According to my sign-up sheet, there are six of y
one person who signed up for three different reasons. So actuall
who signed up. And ordinarily, if there were a number of you, ce
on a time limit. And corp. counsel asked me if I wanted to do th
you people would go on and on and on. So, may I please ask both
Thank you. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matt
County Planning Commission?
TESTIFIERS: Yes.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And starting with you, Mr. Price, will you pl
PRICE: Michael Price.
GIFFIN: And you dont have to -. I know you were going to begin
represent, but that would be nice, too.
PRICE: I represent the South Kohala Traffic Safety Committee.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And Sherm?
WARNER: Im Sherm Warner, representing the Waimea Community Asso
GIFFIN: Thank you. Mr. Price, well begin with you.
PRICE: I just want to summarize some things. First of all, I wan
testimony and I amended the petitions that were attached; there
that support those positions and those two documents the one f
key point is that the Safety Committee does not oppose the land
are supportive of it. But Ordinance 2-25, which was developed in
the primary element to construct a road circulation system in co
the area by the applicant, Parker Ranch. In 1996, Parker Ranch,
delayed the construction of the road until certain number of hou
trigger before they would have to build the road. Since 1996, tw
this county one is the Community Development Plan that was men
other one is the concurrency ordinance. The concurrency ordinanc
application once with the requirement that there be a traffic im
Ranch connector road that has been built hasnt been dedicated,
private citizens, or several private citizens, litigating. It wa
the County. Although the traffic impact analysis report is incom
Hunters letter and also Linda Copmans letter, Im not going to
but the report demonstrates that by 2015 the Level of Service de
unacceptable on the concurrency ordinance. And this is pointed o
in the back. But when you look at it, over a half the turning mo
level, to say that the County normally just ignores this. Well,
ordinances that I just discussed came in. But the whole point of
adequate infrastructure in a timely manner. And it is the will o
Community Development Plan. Finally, the Lindsey Road-Mmalahoa Highway intersection,
which was one of the intersections studied in the TIAR document,
Waimea. The result is we see aggressive driving. We currently ha
protect pedestrians that cross that intersection. Those pedestri
their numbers will increase with the development of the school.
center there that the seniors use they are at risk. This needs
ordinance. Finally, the current laws need to be applied. Our com
on these applications, that these laws be applied and the road b
things deteriorate to Level F. Thats all I have. Thank you.
GIFFIN: Thank you, Mr. Price. Commissioners, any questions? I ha
to be clear, Mr. Price, what you and your group are requesting i
anything else goes on, that the Ranch put up that Lindsey Road e
PRICE: If they could build it tomorrow, that would be fantastic.
probably take five years to get it built because it isnt even d
GIFFIN: So your committee -.
PRICE: But I think its reasonable to ask them to develop it in
and, you know, dedicated.
GIFFIN: Okay. And you go back to all these reasons that you ment
for the reasons for it.
PRICE: My reasons -not my reasons the committees reasons, and
Copmans and Margaret Wille. You have testimony from all those f
Im not an attorney, but two of them are, and Linda Copman draft
Councilman Hoffmann when she was his assistant.
GIFFIN: Mr. Price, are they here?
PRICE: No, no.
GIFFIN: Okay, so you are representing them, and their written -.
PRICE: No, Im not representing them. I think their written test
GIFFIN: Right, I was just going to say. All right. Thank you ver
WARNER: Thank you, Madam Chairwoman and Commission Members. Im
the Waimea Community Association, of which Im president. You ha
will just paraphrase. Im also the coordinator for our Community
Design Review Committee, which receives applications such as thi
Department and solicits input from the community and makes a rec
committee recommended unanimously in favor of this application o
Mike advocates, without any condition of the construction of the
law says that mitigation of adverse traffic effects occur before
our committee didnt see a rezoning as a trigger for building th
your packet from the Planning Director, a letter from our design
rationale for support of this that they saw no rationale or caus
service at the intersection and the rezoning. The TIAR stated th
to a two percent annual population increase thats going to ha
Parker Ranch is, actually the Parker Ranch Trust, a major benefi
which donates generously to the North Hawaii Community Hospital
Foundation, Parker School and Hawaii Preparatory Academy. I als
the board of the West Hawaii Mediation Center, a small non-prof
struggling in really difficult times to raise money to do the go
to a great degree on the Parker Ranch funds that trickle down to
Hawaii Community Hospital have severe financial problems, which
Parker Ranch made no distributions probably because of the const
the distributions for last year that were just announced were fa
appropriate time to create additional expensive conditions that
community and critical to it.
I also served on the South Kohala CDP Steering Committee. We spe
concurrency, about impact fees, but at no time did we ever advoc
having to pay for their impact long before it happened or simply
concurrency means things that happen at the same time, and that
recommendations. So I believe that requiring Parker Ranch to bui
a condition of zoning would be illogical and unfair. As I said,
of the word concurrency. And we have to remember we are not ta
not having to build the road takes money and, you know, sits und
shareholders on the mainland. This is our community. And so, jus
the Waimea Community Association, a participant, although not a
deliberations of our Planning and Design Review Committee, as pr
non-profit and as a resident of Waimea, I urge you to support th
construction of the Lindsey Road extension only when development
GIFFIN: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions of Mr. Warner? H
much. And, Maija, if I dont remember later on, before we call t
hear what the County feels in terms of concurrency and when that
thought I saw Riley here. There he is. Hi Riley, you are the nex
just come up, that will be really good. I realize that you are r
person. But I swear both of you in right now. Could you please r
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now befo
Commission?
TESTIFIERS: I do.
GIFFIN: Thank you very much. Patti, beginning with you, will you
COOK: Good morning. Im Patti Cook from Waimea. Thank you.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Riley?
SMITH: Riley Smith, also a resident of Kamuela.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Commissioners, there is information that we w
both of these testifiers. And Im going to take 30 seconds and l
Hang on. Commissioners, are you ready? Okay, good. Riley, could
SMITH: Sure.
th
GIFFIN: And you can reference your letter to us, or to me and th
.
SMITH: Sure, thank you.
GIFFIN: Thank you.
SMITH: Aloha, Chair Giffin and Members of the Leeward Planning C
GIFFIN: Aloha.
SMITH: My name is Riley Smith. Im a resident of Kamuela and Im
And Im also speaking as on behalf of a parent, I mean a Hawaii
agree with the others that have testified in support of this cha
been a lot of discussion about concurrency. I also agree with co
infrastructure should mitigate the impacts of their project at t
Concurrency is not intended to penalize someone who is building
they have to do it in advance of their impacts, but do it when t
a distinction that, you know, I think the applicant is obligated
project, and not necessarily the impacts of regional or across-i
Waimea, which has minimal infrastructure provided for the majori
Hmkua coast, Hilo and Puna and work in the South Kohala region. I
TIAR, you are going to see that a lot of traffic generated, ther
growth every year, is generated by the increase of people that m
place to live, want to raise their families and enjoy our island
that have been built in the Waimea Town Center area, you know, 2
50, 60, 70 at Holoholo Ku, that doesnt account for two percent
compared to what the TIAR has to do and look at regional traffic
through our town.
I value education. I understand that the Department of Education
five acres, okay. Their typical module for elementary school is
school is 18 acres. They were short five to create two separate
Education in their model has always found that elementary and mi
separated. And thats the reason why that Road A or whatever tha
because it separates an 18-acre parcel from a twelve-acre parcel
students tend to progress better, younger students tend to progr
own campuses. And thats part of this five acres that the Parker
to give to DOE, so they can meet their design module and provide
for our children.
In my situation, my daughter is an eighth grader at HPA. She has
school. Not all the students do. For her, I think, you know, the
school provides for her is critical. You know, I make sacrifices
continue to do that. Since HPA is a beneficiary of the Parker Ra
conditions are imposed upon the applicant to build infrastructur
you are really doing is you are saying the $7,000,000 that it to
$1,000,000 or $2,000,000 thats going to build Lindsey Road is n
the school that my daughter goes to, okay. So therefore, I ask y
and support this rezoning application. Okay. Thank you.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Commissioners? Riley, I have a question. In y
paragraph, you make reference, and it was brought up earlier, th
it expended meaning the Ranch in excess of $7 million doll
hia/connector road. These funds were not available for distribu
beneficiaries that provide for education, health and charitable
elaborate on that more?
SMITH: You know, the applicant should, probably. What Im aware
that their contract with Goodfellow Brothers was in the neighbor
pay for those through resources that would otherwise have fallen
beneficiaries are entitled to the net proceeds of the Trust; so
line, they cant give it to their beneficiaries. I think Sherm W
money that didnt go to the hospital. Each beneficiary is entitl
the total is smaller, each beneficiary gets less.
GIFFIN: Yup, yup, thank you, Riley.
SMITH: Youre welcome.
GIFFIN: All right. Patti?
COOK: Good morning.
GIFFIN: Good morning.
COOK: Im going to make a practice of following Riley because he
needed to say. Thank you for having me today and for the time.
First is speaking on behalf of Waimea Middle Public Conversion C
School is one of the two campuses side by side that would benefi
support it. We do support the recommended changes to the one con
understand that thats an error; it should be Condition D. But w
familiar with what the implications of this proposal are.
The second one is, actually, Dr. Bergin cannot be here today. He
Associations Planning and Design Review Committee. He is fully
participated in all of the conversations and reading all the doc
conditions are appropriate no more is necessary.
And then the third thing really is a personal comment from, as a
Waimea nearly 30 years, and active in the Community Association
saying two things. One, Ive attended a number of community meet
lot of conversation about concurrency and what it means. And hon
know more about academic achievement than concurrency, so I had
genuinely believe that the law does talk about mitigation of imp
And thats what we are asking. And whats being asked for, if yo
asking for the money up front. And what does that mean to our co
when we start talking about unintended consequences. And Riley w
for the Ala hia Road and deferred payments that were made to the hospital.
testimony those are numbers that I did not get from the Ranch
public information but there was no money distributed in 2009.
besides HPA and Parker School, that affects the entire community
things is that recently Parker Ranch in conjunction with Communi
of scholarships, up to $3,000 a child, actually these are for ad
for Waimea students, that they would be able to go to an institu
college, and it would pay $3,000 a year for up to four or five y
elementary, currently right now we have almost 900 students, we
we are looking at about 1,200 kids in public schools. Sixty perc
free-and-reduced lunch kids; that means that they come from fami
of scholarship help. You cut of the money, its not just the hos
HPA and Parker, but it is community kids, as well as organizatio
school garden, many, many other organizations. This past Christmkahi giving
project, which has been funded by Parker Ranchs Richard Smart F
encourage that we not have unintended consequences, which is wha
much.
GIFFIN: Patti, I just wanted to make it real clear. Then the fou
referring to is the Hawaii Community Foundation -.
COOK: Community Foundation, that is correct.
GIFFIN: Which is another beneficiary along with the hospital and
COOK: Correct. And the money that they receive, they immediately
the community.
GIFFIN: Thank you.
COOK: Thank you.
GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of Patti Cook? Thank you ve
is a good time to speak in terms of the law, or the current feel
county regarding concurrency.
COTTLE: Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. The intent of the concurren
Code is to ensure that when a project is built or when a land is
improvements go in at the same time so that any impacts of that
reduced.
GIFFIN: So when, again, does concurrency kick in?
COTTLE: It kicks in concurrent with development of the lands tha
So we have a few conditions that we think speak directly to the
Code.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And thats on the new list of conditions that
COTTLE: Yes.
GIFFIN: Okay, hang on.
COTTLE: First of all, I kind of just want to go into their traff
of zone.
GIFFIN: Okay.
COTTLE: Because DOE and Parker Ranch dont have plans to develop
DOE says that they wouldnt develop for at least another ten yea
plans to immediately develop the surrounding commercially zoned
was done is very conceptual. And so based on as, I think, Tom
going to be a net increase of about a little over one acre of co
study provided conclusions based on that minor increase of comme
conclusion, there are not impacts that need to be mitigated on t
operate at acceptable level of service according to concurrency
DOE has said they plan to develop the school campus around 2019
weve added Condition G that basically says, okay, DOE or Parker
develop your school campus or your commercially zoned lands wh
again is in this area, commercially zoned lands are in this area
come in and prepare another traffic study. At that time DOE will
of how many students the school has to serve, so those more prec
traffic study. And the conclusions will be not conceptual; they
traffic mitigations will be very specific. So we believe that Co
allow either of the parties to get around doing transportation i
says that The applicant, successors or assigns shall provide im
TIAR, or by the Department of Public Works, at no cost to the Co
And then we have two other conditions that address area mitigati
construction of the Lindsey Road extension from around here down
previous ordinance that Parker Ranch, the previous Parker Ranch
Waimea Town Center area, thats Ordinance 02-25, has a condition
Parker Ranch goes to develop the commercially zoned lands, they
Road extension concurrently. So what weve done is weve added
so what weve done is weve added language so that this new comm
Parker goes to develop this area, which now is in mixed zoning,
would also be triggered. So any of the commercially zoned land,
Parker would be obligated to build the Lindsey Road extension. T
the property south of the divider road in this area here, so if
area, it also triggers the construction of the Lindsey Road exte
Then we also have Condition C, as was mentioned earlier. This is
that theres connectivity from the subdivision here over to the
connector road would have to be built prior to let me just see
school, or if for some reason DOE doesnt develop a school in th
its developed as residential units, then that would also trigge
So we feel like we have adequately, with those three conditions,
concurrency to ensure that when development goes in, the proper
GIFFIN: Thank you, Maija. Commissioners, any questions or commen
very much.
COTTLE: Youre welcome.
GIFFIN: It is my understanding that there is somebody here this
know who that person is, but I would appreciate having that pers
come up. Im sorry, I dont know if you were intending to testif
regarding -. No, of you. Okay, please come up and get onto the m
sorry to call you up here without -.
SOUZA: Not a problem. I dont have written testimony.
GIFFIN: Yeah, I figured this much. Thank you. But would you plea
can swear you in? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on th
Leeward County Planning Commission?
SOUZA: I do.
GIFFIN: Will you please state your name?
SOUZA: Art Souza.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And you might want to state your position wit
please. Thank you.
SOUZA: Good morning. My name is Art Souza. Im the Complex Area
schools in West Hawaii.
GIFFIN: Thank you. And as you know, this mornings agenda item r
very dear to our hearts, Waimea School. There was some discussio
objection at first because in a letter dated April 12, I dont
regarding the old Condition D, it was for access, and I think To
access now has been left generally open because we understood,
too, regarding you dont want to lock in accesses right now. And
is the timetable in your estimation regarding the expansion of o
SOUZA: My best guess is that there is no immediate plans for exp
of probably about ten years out, ten to twelve years out. Heidi
probably give us more accurate timeline on that. But I would gue
GIFFIN: Commissioners, any other questions of Art? If not, is He
please come up? I would appreciate you just giving some input. Y
SOUZA: Im pau?
GIFFIN: Pau.
SOUZA: Okay.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Could you please raise your right hand? And I
were not prepared to testify. But again, this question of when d
you in. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter
County Planning Commission?
MEEKER: Yes, I do.
GIFFIN: Could you please state your name and your position?
MEEKER: Im Heidi Meeker. Im a facilities planner for the Depar
Honolulu.
GIFFIN: All right. I appreciate you being here. And could you gi
Art said probably ten, twelve years before any kind of movement
School. Is that your general feeling as well?
MEEKER: It will involve continually watching enrollment, watchin
thing is that we are entirely dependent on the legislature and l
other major variable in our planning. Our budget request, say, f
about five years, and we have started out requesting a number of
probably wont have any money appropriated for any new schools.
adjust the list as needs change and so on. But a new campus for
far down the list, and its not on the list for the next five ye
GIFFIN: Would you say for the next ten in your estimation, the k
had for that age group?
MEEKER: Im afraid to tell you that we have to look statewide, a
schools that are overcrowded right now, those are our first prio
As far as the Waimea schools, enrollment has declined in recent
Waikoloa expansion of grade levels. The latest enrollment projec
thats going to turn around, but its modest growth for the next
GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions? Hearing none, thank you ve
you being here this morning. Before I call you up, Tom and Nahua
letter that Mike Price referred to by Margaret Wille. Commission
the DOE information that we got, and its on Page 4 of Margaret
the record because the letter from Margaret is on the record as
sorry, Item No. IV. Conflicts of Interest, The following member
Commission have a conflict of interest/bias on this Parker Ranch
recuse themselves from any discussion, deliberation, or voting o
mentions Brandi who earlier this morning has recused himself; Th
Ranch trustee, who is not here this morning and obviously will n
says, former trustee of Parker Ranch beneficiary. I ask Julie
regarding the conflict of interest pertaining to me. Julie?
MECKLENBURG: Yes. For the benefit of the Commissioners, as well
today, the County Code does provide that Commissioners must disq
any official action directly affecting a business or undertaking
financial interest, and this includes any official action direct
which you or your immediate family or household member has a sub
there are several exceptions, but unless that is the case, you a
may be permitted to recuse yourself, also if there is a perceive
requirement.
GIFFIN: Thank you very much. That being settled, Tom and Nahua,
forward again? Tom, Im sure you heard all the testimony and pro
the issues that were raised in public testimony.
WITTEN: Certainly. I think again, thank you to Maija for clari
because that is one that a lot of testimony was focused on and
25, is clearly obligated and is committed to implement the roadw
development. But as was stated in many of the testimony, it beco
of actual rooftops or commercial development to build that infra
current section of the connector road, which was, you know, forc
the Ranch to implement that in advance of specific triggers with
the Ranch and the Town Center development, assuming the economic
anxious to implement development that will start to recover some
infrastructure. And then as the commercial development, if there
development, the Town Center area would be the focal point and w
improvements and the completion of Lindsey Road, which I know is
community. So its not a matter of trying to dodge requirements;
implementing the master plan as approved in the prior zoning ord
provided for under that ordinance. So its a matter of, hopefull
and ideally within five years everybody will be happy to see som
Waimea Town Center that would support the remaining infrastructu
connections.
GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of the applicants represen
anyone else from the public that I may have missed who would lik
PRICE: Excuse me. Could I make a statement, another one?
GIFFIN: Sure. Please feel free to come up. Bring your chair up,
Nahua stand up. Just bring your chair up. Thats fine. Go ahead
PRICE: Michael Price.
GIFFIN: Thank you. Go ahead.
PRICE: Ive heard, you know, what a burden this is for Parker Ra
requirement, there has been in the past an effort to find a way
connector road. One of them was the capital facilities district
people buying the houses. There was discussion about feasibility
Parker Ranch and utilizing part of the $10,000,000 set aside as
improve traffic circulation in Waimea. So I dont want you to co
Committee is insisting that Parker Ranch build that road right n
circumstance. They actively participate in our committee. But th
mentioned in the 2009 letter from the committee; those options b
and Parker Ranch could pay them back. The important thing is we
already that should have been addressed in the traffic impact an
five, ten and 20 years. I want the Planning Commission to consid
try and do the same thing they did with the Parker School situat
but this Commission decided that they were also impacting the tr
stipulated terms with a set timetable for them to perform them.
Some of you were not participants in that. Thats all I have to
GIFFIN: Thank you very much. Commissioners, do you have any ques
ask Mr. Price? Okay, hearing none, go ahead, you may go ahead an
you have any questions of anyone, staff, the applicant?
BOWMAN: I do.
GIFFIN: Commissioner Bowman.
BOWMAN: And maybe, Im sorry, Mr. Price, maybe I should have had
about the County could build it and Parker Ranch could pay it ba
Department has a comment, too, on that. Im just a little confus
PRICE: I dont want to put words in the Countys mouth, but that
heard is that the County could fund the project and at a later t
pay them back when after the development was in, because of the
congestion in that area. I mean, I dont know if Ki Emler is fam
going to speak for the Department of Public Works.
GIFFIN: Thank you. But we do have Margaret Masunaga here, the De
I think could adequately address that situation.
MASUNAGA: Yeah, well, having just gone through I dont know if
about, you know, the bonding initiatives this is not on the ra
any more knowledge from the Department of Public Works as one of
County would fund and build to my knowledge that is not true.
GIFFIN: Ki, would you like to comment? Could you please identify
EMLER: Kiran Emler, Department of Public Works, Engineering Divi
been brought up is whether the County, or Public Works, has any
the Lindsey Road extension. At present time Im not aware of any
proposed, I think, on the bond-issue list of proposed projects t
your question?
GIFFIN: It does. Thank you very much. And thank you, Mr. Price.
questions that you would like to bring up? Hearing none, do I ha
to Agenda Item No. 1, the change of zone application, REZ 08-83.
IOKEPA: Madam Chair?
GIFFIN: Mr. Iokepa.
IOKEPA: Id like to propose a motion to pass a favorable recomme
Council with Parker Ranchs change of zone application 08-83, wi
GIFFIN: Any second?
HICKCOX: Second.
GIFFIN: Its been moved by Commissioner Iokepa and seconded by C
the change of zone application, REZ 08-83, receive a favorable r
zone request to the County Council.
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GIFFIN: Correct, correct. So we are saying that we are going to,
of the revised conditions as circulated this morning, correct?
COTTLE: By the Planning Director on the yellow form, including del
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recommendation, but of course the Commission has the ability to am
modify that.
GIFFIN: We know, we know. Thank you very much.
BOWMAN: So when it states applicant, successors or assigns shall
construed, I mean it could mean also that it would be DOE, since
the parcel in half, right? Im sorry that Im a little ignorant
correct? My reading is right?
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COTTLE: Thats correct. It means that the applicant, successors
any other landowner that takes ownership of that property.
BOWMAN: And who develops it.
COTTLE: Correct.
BOWMAN: So I would assume that would be covered. Okay, thank you
GIFFIN: Any more discussion on this motion? Hearing none, Maija?
COTTLE: Thank you. Okay, Ill take the roll. Commissioner Iokepa
IOKEPA: Aye.
COTTLE: Commissioner Hickcox?
HICKCOX: Aye.
COTTLE: Commissioner Bowman?
BOWMAN: Aye.
COTTLE: And Chair Giffin?
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The discussion ended at 11:10 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Noriko Sauer, Secretary
Leeward Planning Commission
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