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PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
APRIL 23, 2004
A regularly advertised hearing on the application of OCEAN’S SPORTS BAR AND
GRILL (KSV 04-002) was called to order at 9:33 a.m. in the Ohana Keauhou Beach
Resort, Kahaluu Ballroom, 78-6740 Alii Drive, North Kona, Hawai‘i, with Chairman
Fred Galdones presiding.
PRESENT:Fred Galdones
C. Kimo Alameda
Earl Fujikawa
Bill Graham
Jeffrey McCall
Hannah Springer
Francis Smith
Bill P. Thibadeau
Patricia O’Toole, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Chris Yuen, Planning Director
Norman Hayashi, Planning Program Manager
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Jeff Darrow, Staff Planner
And approximately 15 people from the public in attendance
APPLICANT: OCEAN'S SPORTS BAR AND GRILL (KSV 04-002)
Sign Variance to allow deviations from the requirements of Chapter 3 (Advertising and
signs), Article 2 (Kailua Village Signs), Section 3-72 (Sign and lettering size) and
Section 3-74 (Sign height) of the Hawaii County Code, as amended. The property is
located within the Coconut Grove Marketplace between Alii Drive and Kuakini
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Highway, Auhaukeae 2, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-5-9: 25.
GALDONES:We are on Agenda Item No. 2. The applicant is OCEAN'S
SPORTS BAR AND GRILL (KSV 04-002). This is an application for a Sign Variance to
allow deviations from the requirements of Chapter 3 (Advertising and signs), Article 2
(Kailua Village Signs), Section 3-72 (Sign and lettering size) and Section 3-74 (Sign
height) of the Hawaii County Code, as amended. Norman?
HAYASHI:Thank you, Mr. Chair. Members of the Commission, good
morning. Going to the location map on the board, on the wall, the subject property is
situated at this location indicated by this orange dot. It is situated mauka of Alii Drive.
This would be the King Kamehameha Hotel, excuse me, the Kona Beach Resorts. I
believe it’s called now, the old Hilton Hotel, Kona Hilton Hotel. And this would be
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Kuakini Highway running towards Keauhou. The property also includes the Hard Rock
Café, for those of you who are familiar with this particular area. We also have the
Outback Steahouse at this particular location. There is this particular building which
would be the Ocean’s Sports Bar and Grill that is currently under construction.
The applicant is requesting a variance from this Commission to provide this particular
sign at two locations on the proposed building. One would be along the Kohala side.
Although the map reflects makai, actually, the correct orientation would be the Kohala
side of the property, and this particular sign would be at this location. The other sign
would be, the same sign would also be situated along the Kau, excuse me, makai side of
the building. The map incorrectly is noted as the Kau side. So that sign would also be
located at this particular location. The applicant is requesting that two variances be
allowed for this particular direction of this particular sign. One would be to have the sign
at a height of approximately 15 ½ feet from the finished grade in lieu of the 5 ½ feet
requirement that is required by the Sign Code. The second would be to allow this
particular sign to exceed the height of 9 inches. This particular sign would be constructed
at a height, excuse me, the height of this sign would be 22 inches. And the reason for that
is although the wording is nine inches in size, the logo portion, this blue portion here, or
that is also referred to as the swoop, is part of the sign. So because of that, the sign
height would be 22 inches instead of 9 inches. So that’s basically what the applicant is
requesting.
We are recommending the approval of this particular request. The Kailua Village Design
Commission also reviewed the request and recommended its approval. Are there any
questions?
GALDONES:Commissioners, any questions of Norman? Hearing none, is the
applicant or its representative present here today? Would you please step forward. You
will be recorded, so if you could speak into the microphone. Could you please raise your
right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawaii
County Planning Commission?
YEH:I do.
HULL:I do.
GALDONES:Could you please state your name and residence address. Ladies
first.
YEH:My name is Shirley Yeh and we are at 75-6081 Alii Drive, Kailua-
Kona, Hawaii 96740.
HULL:My name is Todd Hull and I reside at 75-6081 Alii Drive in
Kailua-Kona 96740.
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GALDONES:Ms. Yeh and Mr. Hull, have you received a copy of the
background report and the recommendation; and do you have any comments to those?
HULL:No, sir, we don’t.
GALDONES:Do you find the conditions acceptable to you?
HULL:Yes, sir.
GALDONES:Commissioners, any questions of the applicant? No questions.
Okay, we have one individual who has signed up to testify, Lynn Puri.
PURI:Good morning.
GALDONES:Good morning. Could you please raise your right hand. Do you
swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Hawaii County Planning
Commission?
PURI:I do.
GALDONES:Could you please state your name and your residence address.
PURI:I’m Lynn Puri. I reside at 75-349 Melelina Place in Kailua-Kona.
GALDONES:Ms. Puri, you may begin your testimony.
PURI:Sure. I’m here testifying on behalf of Na Leo Pohai, the public
policy affiliate of the Outdoor Circle. I did attend the variance hearing at the Kailua
Village Design Commission for the Ocean Sports Bar. And I would just like to say that
the trend here is that if a sign variance is requested that there are some kind of
negotiations. There was more requested in this variance at that time when they, at the
Kailua Village Design Commission; and this was kind of settled, that the height and the
size of the letters would be recommended by the Kailua Village Design Commission.
And then my concern is just that we would like to see a more concrete reason why there
should be a sign variance granted here. It seems to me that when a business applies for a
sign variance it tends to be negotiated out and that some of their requests for a sign
variance were denied; but then these two areas, the height and the size of the letters, was,
seemed acceptable to the Kailua Village Design Commission. And I would just like to
say that I’d like to see a little bit more establishment about why there is a variance
request in the first place, and why they cannot adhere to the Sign Code as it is, and what
establishes an exceptional situation here that they’re applying for the sign variance.
Thank you.
GALDONES:Commissioners, any questions of Ms. Puri? Hearing none, thanks,
Ms. Puri.
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FUJIKAWA:I have a question for the Director.
GALDONES:Commissioner Fujikawa.
FUJIKAWA:I have a question with the Director. I was at one time sitting on the
Kailua Village Design Commission and also as a Planning Commissioner I had, did a site
visit for the Outback Steak House. I brought to the attention of the Council as to when
are they going to revise the, varying the size of the sign. Are they going to change it?
YUEN:The last activity on the Sign Code that I’m aware of was that
Council Member Tyler was working on the Sign Code, he had a draft, he submitted it to
the Planning Department, we made some comments. The draft was confusing. And to
tell you the truth the existing Sign Code is kind of confusing. It makes my head hurt
when I try to analyze it, frankly. One of our suggestions was that, and you’ll see this,
was the pictures of the types of size and what’s allowed be incorporated because pictures
are much more useful than words in this case. There hasn’t been anything back on this
and there hasn’t been any activity on it for quite some time. That was the last of it.
FUJIKAWA:Yeah, because the 9 inch, like I brought it up at one time, I can’t
see it from the road. And I was told that the sign, the ordinance was 30 years old. Is that
true?
YUEN:The Kailua Village Sign Code was done in the early 70’s and it is a
Sign Code that’s meant for a little village where the, that’s oriented toward pedestrian
shoppers where people walk on the sidewalk and are in a shopping experience where the
shops are right up to the street. And where you see the variances, what has happened, of
course, over time is that the actual way the village is developed is quite a bit different
than what was envisioned in the early seventies. And so some of the commercial
developments, it seems the types of signs that you’re allowed to have don’t seem to fit
the kinds of buildings that you have. Then a further thing happened which was that the
Sign Code got applied to the industrial area and to buildings outside the central part, the
Alii Drive portion of Kailua Village. And I think that really needs to be changed. The
Kailua Village Sign Code is not the right sign code for an industrial area like the Kona
Industrial area.
FUJIKAWA:I live in Kona and that’s my district. But I’d much rather see that
the County help the people like this with their signage and really get rid of all these
banners. We’ve got more banners than you can shake a stick at.
YUEN:We’ve done a number of enforcement activities; and when we do
enforcement we’ve targeted what we think are the worst sign violations, which are the
banners, the sign board, the sandwich boards, the things out on the streets, and that’s
what we’ve really gone after. But the Sign Code does need to be fixed. If you’re going
to have a strict Sign Code, make it for the area where it makes sense and then loosen it up
for the areas that it doesn’t make sense. Unfortunately, I think all of us have been
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occupied with other matters, and this has not been on anybody’s front burner for some
time.
FUJIKAWA:Thank you.
GALDONES:Commissioner Springer?
SPRINGER:I think with regard to comments from the testifier, if we look at the
Recommendation No. 1 there’s a discussion of the different elevations in the area and
that the applicant states that the location of the sign fits the proportion and design of the
building, which I think are elements that the Planning Director made in his discussion as
well. So that justification is reflected in the recommendation.
GALDONES:Thank you, Commissioner Springer. Commissioners, any further
questions? Otherwise, Ms. Yeh and Mr. Hull, are there any other comments? Do you
wish to comment on Ms. Puri’s remarks or are there any other information that you
would like to submit to the Commissioners before we go into decision making?
HULL:No, sir.
GALDONES:Commissioners, any further questions of the applicants? If none,
Commissioners, it comes with a recommendation for approval by the Planning
Commission. The wishes of the Commissioners? Commissioner Fujikawa?
FUJIKAWA:I’ll make a motion to accept the application of KSV 04-002, to be
accepted on a sign variance to allow -.
GALDONES:Any second?
SPRINGER:Second.
GALDONES:It has been moved by Commissioner Fujikawa, seconded by
Commissioner Springer, that the Ocean Sports Bar and Grill Sign Variance Application
No. 04-002 be approved by the Planning Commission. Further discussions,
Commissioners? Hearing none, Norman.
HAYASHI:Before taking a roll call vote, just for clarification purposes, is the
approval as recommended by the Planning Director?
FUJIKAWA:Yes.
HAYASHI:Thank you. Commissioner Fujikawa?
FUJIKAWA:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Springer?
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SPRINGER:Yes.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Thibadeau?
THIBADEAU:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Alameda?
ALAMEDA:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Graham?
GRAHAM:Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner McCall?
MCCALL: Aye.
HAYASHI:Commissioner Smith?
SMITH:Aye.
HAYASHI:And Chairman Galdones?
GALDONES:Aye.
HAYASHI:Mr. Chair, motion carries.
GALDONES:Thank you, Norman. You will be informed in writing of today’s
action.
HULL:Thank you.
GALDONES:You’re welcome.
The discussion ended at 9:50 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon M. Nomura, Secretary
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