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PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
MINUTES
DECEMBER 3, 2004
The Planning Commission reconvened in regular session on December 3, 2004 at
8:30 a.m. in the Hapuna Beach Prince Hotel, Hau/Lehua Room, 62100 Kaunaoa Drive,
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Kohala Coast, Hawaii with Chairman Fred Galdones presiding.
PRESENT:Fred GaldonesABSENT & EXCUSED:Ren¯ Siracusa
C. Kimo AlamedaWilliam Graham
Earl Fujikawa
Jeffrey McCallIvan Torigoe, Deputy
FrancisSmithCorp.Counsel
Hannah SpringerKiran Emler, DPW
Representative
Christopher J. Yuen, Planning Director
Norman Hayashi, Planning Program Manager
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Jeff Darrow, Staff Planner
And no one from the public in attendance.
ELECTION OFThe Commission took up the election of 2005 officers at this time.
2005 OFFICERS
The Nomination Commission, consisting of Commissioners Fujikawa and Smith, came
up with the following slate of officers.
Chairman Fred Galdones
First Vice-Chairman Hannah Springer
Second Vice-Chairman C. Kimo Alameda
The nominees accepted the nomination and there was no discussion.
It was moved by Commissioner Smith and seconded by Commissioner Fujikawa that the
nominationsbeclosed.Motionwasunanimouslycarriedbyavoicevoteofall
Commissioners in attendance.
It was moved by Commissioner Fujikawa and seconded by Commissioner Alameda to
accepttheslateofofficersfor2005.Motionwasunanimouslycarriedbyavoicevoteof
all Commissioners in attendance.
MINUTESThe Commission took up the following minutes at this
time,8:32a.m.
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September 16, 2004 - It was moved by Commissioner Springer and seconded by
Commissioner McCall that the Commission receive and accept the minutes as circulated.
Motion was unanimously carried by a voice vote of all Commissioners in attendance.
October 1, 2004 - It was moved by Commissioner Springer and seconded by
Commissioner Fujikawa that the Commission receive and accept the minutes as
circulated. Motion was unanimously carried by a voice vote of all Commissioners in
attendance.
October 22, 2004- It was moved by Commissioner Springer and seconded by
Commissioner McCall that the Commission receive and accept the minutes as circulated.
Motion was unanimously carried by a voice vote of all Commissioners in attendance.
ADMINISTRATIVE The Commission took up the following administrative
MATTERSmatters at this time, 8:34 a.m.
Status of appeals filed on Planning Commission decisions Corporation Counsel
Mr. Torigoe stated he had nothing new to report on this matter.
Other Commission matters Mr. Hayashi reported Lynette Sanemitsu will be serving as
the Planning Commissions secretary for West Hawaii starting January. Mr. Yuen
reported that replacements for Commissioners Smith, Fujikawa and Thibadeau have not
been found as yet and asked Commissioners Smith and Fujikawa to servefor another 90
days or until a replacement is found. Mr. Hayashi noted the next meeting is scheduled
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for December 17 in Hilo and the subsequent meeting for January 21 in Kona, noting
the 2005 meeting schedulehas been circulated to the Commission.
Report on Planning Department Projects There was no report given on this matter.
TRAININGThe following are recapitulations of matters discussed
under Training:
Sunshine Law Workshop Mr. Hayashi reported on a recently-held Sunshine Law
Workshop conducted by Leslie Kondo, noting he will be transmitting the written
information to the Commission. He said some of the things that were discussed to not
conduct individual site inspections on items on the agenda, noting the Commission could
appoint a task force to do a site inspection and make a report; under certain
circumstances, two individuals could discuss an item on the agenda but not more than
three; and anything that may or may possibly come before the Commission should not be
discussed with an applicant, applicants representative, opponent of the applicant,
neighboring property owners, or members of the public.
In response to the Commissioners inquiries, Mr. Yuen noted that it is possible for the
Commission to discuss a subject matter that has already been acted upon by the
Commission;however,hecautionedthatthatmattermaycomebackifanapplicantasks
for a time extension, etc. He said if an applicant wishes to find out why a Commissioner
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voted a certain way so they could provide more information to address a concern, that
really should be asked at the Commission meeting.
Commissioner McCall questioned how Commissioners should deal with having past
experiences or prior knowledge of a matter before the Commission. Mr. Yuen noted that
Commissioners would not get in trouble if they use their overall knowledge and judgment
about a situation as Commissioners are appointed because they know something about
the Community, emphasizing that they should provide any information at the
Commission meeting and not discuss it outside of the meeting. Mr. Yuen then suggested
Commissioners call, write, fax or email the Planning Department before the meeting to
ask that the Planning Department research a certain matter of interest or concern, to
which Mr. Hayashi noted from the staffs standpoint they would like to be prepared
instead of being caught off-guard at the Commission meeting. Mr. Yuen agreed with
Commissioner Fujikawa that a Commissioner could ask Corporation Counsel whether or
nottobringsomethingupofapersonalexperienceorknowledge.
ForCommissionerSpringersinformation,Mr.YuensaidifaCommissionerwantsan
application to be approved or denied, they have to be present at the meeting to vote and
not have their comments on their thoughts read into the record, as it would be more in the
nature of testifying. He said the overall philosophy of the Sunshine Law is that decisions
are to be made by a group, like the Planning Commission, and it should be made at the
meeting in public as a result of what is presented at the meeting, and after discussion and
consideration by the members of the group.
Regarding Commissioner McCalls inquiry, Mr. Yuen said a Commissioner could
disqualify himself and testify if a neighbor had an application right next to his home;
however, for ordinary applications where there is no direct conflict, he would discourage
a Commissioner from stepping down from its role to provide testimony as it disqualifies
the Commissioner from voting on the application. Mr. Yuen added that a Commissioner
could still argue for or against an application without stepping down from its role as a
Commissioner and the role of the Commissioner is stronger than a member of the public
since the Commissioner gets to vote on the application.
Mr. Hayashi noted that the Planning Staff, in consultation with the Office of Corporation
Counsel, will prepare a manual for the Commissioners as to their role, and include the
various statutes that affect the Commission.
Mr. Yuen commended the Commission for not using executive sessions to do decision-
making and keeping to the spirit of the Sunshine Law.
General Plan Mr. Yuen gave some background information and updated the
Commission as to the status of the General Plan which was last updated in 1989. He
notedwhenthePlanningCommissionsentthedrafttotheCouncilinJanuary2002,the
Council subsequently held a lot of meetings and workshops but never took action on it.
HesaidthenewCouncilplanstopassaDraft1withamendments,whichwouldcome
back to the Planning Commission for review.
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In response to the Commissions inquiry, Mr. Yuen said the Commission should still
follow the current General Plan as it is still the overall guide and framework that the
County operates under. He added that he would not say that any section has any
precedence over the other, such as economic development over beauty and historic
preservation; and if there is any conflict, it is up to the decision-maker to decide what is
the right balance.
County Housing Policy Relating to Land Use Approvals Mr. Yuen said the
Administration is proposing to increase the in-lieu fee option to provide affordable
housing, noting since 1998 until the last few months the Council has approved all
requests for in-lieu fees. He said the way thefee will be calculated will be the difference
betweenthe affordable price and what the lot or house is sold for times 20 percent. He
referred to inclusionary zoning, which would include a mix of people in a new
subdivided area.
For Commissioner Springers information, Mr. Yuen said the in-lieu fee collected has to
be earmarked for affordable housing but it would be under the Councils control. He said
other possible areas that the money could be used for would be homeless shelters or other
kinds of government housing programs, noting his concern of the private sector not being
able to provide affordable homes to at least one-third of the population. He noted the
County last developed affordable housing back in the early nineties but currently have an
RFPtostartdevelopmentofaffordablehomeswithinWaikoloaVillage.
CommissionerSpringerlaterstatedthathaving-acrelotsinanestatesettingarenot
satisfying the needs of people who are working at the resort and driving in from Ocean
View, or places even further than that. Mr. Yuen said this is where the Housing Policy
would come in where if a project is passed in an area such as Kailua-Kona, the applicant
is made aware that the County expects and will require a certain level of affordable
housing. He pointed out that the only possible way to obtain affordable housing in
Kailua-Kona would be with some kind of government subsidy, such as the government
providing the land and major infrastructure and the developer provide such things as the
interior roadways, electric, and the homes. He noted he is considering asking the State
land between Palani Road and Kealakehe Highway be set aside for affordable housing
because it is nonceded land and that the County has put some planning money in the
latest CIP for a connector road from Palani to Kealakehe Parkway.
For Chairman Galdones information, Mr. Yuen said that for every rezoning ordinance
that would create new residential uses, he will be recommending a condition be imposed
that the applicant would have to follow Chapter 11. He added that he felt the County
does a good job in monitoring the affordable housing condition.
In response to Commissioner Fujikawas inquiry, Mr. Yuen said one can fulfill the
affordable housing requirement by doing a rental housing project. He added that if a
developer does a multi-family rental project, there would probably have to be a rezoning
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action, but for a farm worker housing project within the Ag district no rezoning is
required.
Mr. Yuen expressed his concern of people living in Ocean View or a great distance away
from their place of work because the land is inexpensive but then create a major traffic
congestion and there is no way to really improve the situation without building a
completely new highway. He said this is why he continues to push for some rezoning in
the Kailua-Kona area, so there would be less people having to travel a great distance,
noting it is better to build two miles of road between Kealahehe Parkway and Palani than
some day having to replace Highway 11 between Napoopoo and Ocean View.
In response to Commissioner Fujikawas inquiry, Mr. Yuen explained what the County
classifies as affordable homes, referring to the HUD formula and noting it depended a lot
upon the interest rates of the mortgage.
Commissioner Fujikawa questioned why the State could not give the County land to
createaffordablehousingintheareapasttheairport.Mr.YuennotedthatintheLaiopua
project the State transferred most of the lands to Hawaiian Homes to develop housing.
He said most of the State lands are ceded and tied up in a law suit that says the State does
not have the right to sell these lands to the general public for housing, noting the ceded
lands are State lands that were originally owned by the Hawaiian Kingdom. He said a
piece of State land is inexpensive by virtue of it being State land but one has to find a
good location to piggy-back the infrastructure to in order to provide affordable housing.
Commissioner Springer questioned if the State could develop rental properties on their
properties so there would be no alienation of the land itself from the ceded inventory,
noting she did not think the Legislature has approved any payments to the Office of
Hawaiian Affairs at this time. Mr. Yuen noted they could and he does know the State is
interested, but he was not sure how OHA is treating rental income now from housing.
Commissioner Springer also questioned if developers could make contributions to
something like a mortgage fund for people that qualify either within their employment
pool or in the general public so that properties closer to the workplace might become
accessible to people if they can cover the down payment. Mr. Yuen noted that some of
the resorts have programs like that and satisfied their affordable housing requirement. He
said those programs are good and really help the employee but the problem with it is they
do not necessarily address the supply side of the picture where people are bidding for that
same pool of houses that are out there in the market, noting the County has to do things
that encourage the supply of more units into the price range or it will just bid up the units
that are existing.
Agricultural Zoning In response to Commissioner Springers inquiry, Mr. Yuen said the
DraftGeneralPlandesignatestheareaalongtheKawaihaeRoadasruralandtheCounty
zoning that correlates to Rural is either an RA or FA zone. Commissioner Springer noted
herconcernoftheinclusionofRAdesignation.
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Public Access For the Commissions information, Mr. Yuen said one parking space per
ten developed units is a formula used. He said rather than limiting parking spaces or
having a parking lot miles away from an area, such as historic sites, he would prefer to
have signs or other things that keep people off.
Enforcement Commissioner Springer questioned whether there was sufficient funding
for enforcement of the resources like fisheries. Mr. Yuen noted that the County does not
get directly involved Fish and Game regulations and enforcement, but he would be happy
to testify at the Legislature when theDOCARE budget is before the Legislature.
Concurrent Policy Mr. Yuen said they are preparing an ordinance that talks about
concurrency where infrastructure should keep up with zoning, noting the County already
has concurrency for water where the County either does not grant zoning or if the County
does grant zoning an applicant cannot do anything with the zoning until water is available
and roads within a subdivision where an applicant would have to build the interior
roadway system before subdivision approval is granted. He said where the County has
fallen behind is in the regional road network; but that the County has to be cautious in
applying this because they are still looking at having housing closer to the job site as a
positive on the transportation and road situation. He noted that concurrency will be
applied differently for housing than for commercial and other kinds of developments.
County Subdivision Code Mr. Yuen pointed out that the Subdivision Codes needed to
be revised to allow narrower streets, etc. so the cost of a lot would not be so high.
ANNOUNCEMENTSNo announcements were made.
ADJOURNMENTThere being no further business, at 10:15 a.m., it was
moved by Commissioner Springer and seconded by
Commissioner Fujikawa that the meeting be adjourned. Motion was unanimously carried
by a voice vote of all Commissioners in attendance.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon M. Nomura, Secretary
A T T E S T:
EarlFujikawa,FirstVice-Chairman
Planning Commission
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To be approved by the Planning Commission
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