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REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 23, 2023
WEST HAWAII CIVIC CENTER, BUILDING A, COUNCIL CHAMBERS
74-5044 ANE KEOHOKALOLE HWY., KAILUA-KONA, HI
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Kosaki called the meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.
Present: Gerald Kosaki, Chair
Carlene Wolf, Vice Chair
Benjamin Agdeppa, Commissioner (at 10:25 a.m.)
Gregory Henkel, Commissioner
Corey Luke, Commissioner
Shon Magsalin, Commissioner
Wesley Mattos, Commissioner
Gene Nakashima, Commissioner
A quorum was present.
Also present: Kazuo Todd, Fire Chief
Keyra Wong, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Charisse Correa, Secretary
PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS (None)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• Commissioner Luke motioned to approve the regular session minutes of January 26,
2023. Commissioner Henkel seconded, no discussion, it carried unanimously, and
the minutes were approved.
• Commissioner Henkel motioned to approve the executive session minutes of
January 26, 2023. Commissioner Luke seconded, no discussion, it carried
unanimously, and the minutes were approved.
FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
Chief Todd Highlighted items from the Fire Chief's Report. A detailed report is on file.
• Highlights: HFD is still running into issues in the communication center regarding
staffing. They're looking to augment that with firefighters. Currently, the
supplemental agreements are being run through DHR, in terms of getting those
finalized and then sent to the unions.
Chair Kosaki asked if HGEA was consulted. Chief Todd explained this has been
going on for about six months. They've had multiple meetings with both unions.
Currently, they have verbal approval from everyone to move ahead. They're
currently working on finalizing everything and putting it on paper before
implementing the new program. Ideally, when dispatch has less than 75% of full-time
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staffing, they're looking to maintain this program. This is intended to be a temporary
program.
51st Recruit Class: The 51st recruit class graduated on January 13t". The ceremony
was held at Nani Mau Gardens.
Fire Communications Officer Honored: Fire Communications Officer II, Jacob Nixon,
was honored on January 19t" by the Aloha Exchange Club of Hilo. He was
recognized for going above and beyond the call of duty in helping locate and rescue
two lost hikers.
Six-Month Program Budget Review: In January they did a six-month program budget
review to track and manage HFD's financial performance. They made basic changes
to their minimum staffing. Their goal is 105 minimum staffing per day, as opposed to
107. Chief Todd also met with the county auditor this month and they are moving
ahead with better financial measuring systems.
Commissioner Mattos confirmed that they're cutting two personnel staff to manage
the budget. He stated that he visited the station, saw the memo, and was told he
was cutting from district 7 and district 14. He wanted to know why he decided to cut
from those two stations in West Hawaii and none from the other stations. Chief Todd
stated the position is their extra firefighter position. It's not that they're saying that
position isn't going to be staffed, it actually is, it's just not the minimum staff, which
means they will not recall if that person is out on leave, such as vacation or sick.
Commissioner Mattos asked if firefighters are going to be paid overtime to work in
dispatch. Chief Todd stated no, they will pull potentially 8-12 guys off the line.
Commissioner Mattos asked if he will minimize the staff. Chief Todd explained
minimum staffing will remain at 105. Personnel working in dispatch will be working
straight shifts, and those filling in for the vacancies will be working overtime.
Chair Kosaki referred to the expenditure report and stated the training overtime is
really high. He wanted to know if that was because of the recruit class, are they
using personnel and allocating that to training? Chief Todd stated he needs to
double-check that. Chair Kosaki stated the report says the training overtime was
900% over. Chief Todd said that might be an error and will double-check. He further
explained there's a lot of data in there and is hoping as they move forward with the
new system, he'll be able to show the commission real-time analytics.
• Budget Report: Chief Todd referred to HFD's budget statistics for fiscal year 22-23
and reported that their numbers are a little high, but are correcting their salaries and
wages.
State-Funded Budget Items: The fiscal year 2023 budget for the State EMS grant is
looking good. There is a total of seven ambulances on the way. Five ambulances
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are on order, the first two are already en route and are expected to arrive shortly,
and there will be a blessing ceremony for that.
Commissioner Mattos asked what districts the first two ambulances will be going to.
Chief Todd stated if he remembers correctly, Station 15 and Station 5.
Commissioner Mattos stated when he went to the station, they said that Stations 6
and 7 are both running on their second ambulance. Commissioner Mattos said
regarding District 15, he understands the volume of calls, but is it because their
medic is over the mileage? Chief Todd stated he doesn't have all the data in front of
him and he won't micromanage the decisions personnel makes. Chief Todd stated
he had stopped at Station 7 during station visitations. The subject was brought up
about their ambulance being burnt and they asked if they'll get a new ambulance.
Chief Todd said it would make sense to him because they were running on spare
ambulances and advised them he would check on it. Assistant Chief Ian Chadwick
(formerly Smith) and personnel looked at the entire fleet and made the decision on
where it was most critical to assign the new ambulances. Chief Todd stated he will
send the commission information showing where all seven ambulances will be
going. Commissioner Mattos stated Stations 7 and 6 are both running on their
second ambulance. He would think at least one of those districts would be a higher
priority over 15. Chief Todd stated Chief Honda and personnel do a thorough job
when making decisions and he doesn't feel the best option for him would be to
question their decisions and micromanage. He'll ask them for the data and will send
it to the commission.
Commissioner Mattos stated some personnel he spoke to expressed it would help if
there was a mechanic on the west side of the island. When he was working, Chief
Oliveira was trying to get a mechanic on the west side, but it didn't happen. Chief
Todd stated he is asking for two additional mechanic positions. Instead of setting up
their own mechanic shop in Kona, they could be tied in with DPW or Mass Transit or
other agencies so they wouldn't need to necessarily have a supervisor on the west
side, they're looking at different options to make it happen.
Chair Kosaki stated there are so many logistical problems. It would be great to have
a mechanic out here, but you will need the tools and equipment. He can see having
a mobile mechanic out here just to do the day-to-day minor repairs, but of course,
any major repairs would still have to go to Hilo. Chief Todd stated there are three
potential locations they're looking at. One is a new Station 16 in Waikoloa and the
possibility of turning the current Station 16 into a centralized mechanic location.
Another option would be a hangar for Chopper 2 at Station 14, with the potential for
a mechanic location. Another option would be at Station 7, using the land in the back
to drop a mechanic's bay. There are also some warehousing options that are in the
Waikoloa region, behind the Waikoloa Fire Station which is used by hotels, they
could possibly work out a lease agreement.
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Chief Todd continued the budget report and reported receiving $200,000 from the
state for lifeguarding. In addition to that, he asked for another $1.4 million for an
additional six paramedic positions, and six Fire/EMS recruit positions. He's not sure
if this will be approved, but if it does, he will drop a second paramedic in Kailua, and
a second paramedic in central.
• Alternative Funding and Grants: Chief Todd got permission to pursue another
Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Grant, he will be
asking for an additional 12 firefighters. The current Grant is for six captain positions
and three firefighter positions. They're still expanding on the USDA, Forest Service,
Pacific Southwest Region, State & Private Forestry Grant. The FY 2021 Assistance
to Firefighters (AFG) Grant will be used to purchase and install washers/extractors
and dryers. They just put in for another AFG Grant, this will be for launching Blue
Card, which is a system for management on scene. There's enough additional
funding still built into the Hapuna and Kua Bay State grant awards that they're not
expanding on. He will be adding two positions, a WSO V as well as a clerk III. He's
hoping to have the paperwork completed within the next couple of months.
• Personnel Report: Chief Todd reported on internal and open recruitments. The
Fire/EMS Specialist II assessment occurred on February 16th. The Fire Rescue
Specialist Assessment Center has not yet been scheduled. Delsyn Hirota and
Steven Tabura will be promoted to Fire/Hazardous Material Specialists effective
March 1, 2023. The targeted hire date for the next recruit class is August 1, 2023.
They're in the process of creating recruit training officer positions, which will open up
four additional positions. After this recruit class comes in, HFD will be close to 100%
staffing. The targeted hire date for Fire Communication Officer positions is April 1,
2023, for seven vacant positions. The Accountant I position was temporarily
reallocated to a Professional Trainee I, as of February 1, 2023. Lene Labrador was
hired as Clerk III (Auxiliary Services Bureau) effective February 1, 2023. Clerk III
(Administration) Interviews were conducted the other day. Taetum Atkins was hired
as Clerk III (EMS Bureau) effective February 1, 2023. Both Lene and Taetum were
both former dispatch recruits who decided they didn't want to work in dispatch, but
came back to work for HFD in other areas. The Performance Assessment Exercise
was conducted for Water Safety Officer I, for 14 candidates. Four candidates passed
the PAE and interviews are scheduled during the week of February 27-March 3,
2023.
Commissioner Mattos asked regarding the EMS Specialist, will they drop back down
to a firefighter? Chief Todd explained he's currently in communication with DHR
regarding this. There's a three-year minimum requirement for the Fire/EMS
Specialist I. They take the Fire/EMS Specialist and drop them into a firefighter
position on paper to meet the minimum requirements.
Chair Kosaki asked if there's a requirement now that states once you go to school
you have to run for four years or commit for a period of time. Chief Todd stated
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technically on paperwork with the MOU between HFD and the union, yes, however
in reality, they haven't been able to hold people to that at times.
Employee Development and Training: Chief Todd continued with his report.
Conducting an effective job interview training was held on January 19, 2023. It's a
required training for personnel to be able to sit in on interview processes.
• Total Calls for Service (Calendar Year): Chief Todd reported year to date, HFD
received 2,815 calls for service. The total number of calls projected for 2023 is
33,780.
• Response Times: Chief Todd stated their average turn out times are a little higher
than where they want them to be. They would like to be at 1:20, but are currently at
1:32.
Chair Kosaki stated the response time is hard because of the geography and how
big our island is, but the area HFD can try to improve upon is the turn out times.
• Fire Impacts: For January there were 30 fires (wildland). 1500 acres burned caused
by lightning strikes on the PTA land area.
• Emergency Operations Highlights: On January 15, 2023, there was a fire in
Papa'aloa. On January 16, 2023, EMS responded to Makalika Street, the initial call
was a possible suicide, but it turned out to be a double homicide. On January 22,
2023, there was a residential fire that was confined to the room of origin. On January
15, 2023, a fisherman was pulled overboard by a fish. HFD assisted the Coast
Guard with search efforts, but he was not located.
• Special Operations:
➢ Hazmat: Haz-Tech training class was completed; 16 personnel completed
the course. The Fire Hazmat assessment was completed, with two new
hires. Various training opportunities are planned: CST, Li-lion, and
radiation.
➢ Ocean Safety: WSO I PAE was completed on February 8, 2023. Interviews
are scheduled for March 2, 2023.
➢ Rescue: Promotional assessment has been postponed/canceled. As of right
now, no one from Rescue is getting promoted or looking to leave. Even if
they have a list of names, there are no positions for the names to go to.
• Incident Heat Map: Chief Todd referred to the incident heat map for January 2023
and compared call volumes across the island.
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Commissioner Mattos stated he was asked by people in the community what the
problem was with their rescue boats. He was told that Sayres offered to purchase a
boat for HFD. Chief Todd stated Sayres is still moving forward with the purchasing of
the boat. Commissioner Mattos stated the last time they spoke about it; two boats
were getting fixed and it's kind of embarrassing. Chief Todd explained they paid for
the repair, authorized it, and got the contract, procurement can take a ridiculous
amount of time. It went into the shop, it was being repaired and they noticed a
steering leakage issue. They went back to finance to move ahead, but finance said it
had to go out for bid because it was over a certain amount and they couldn't use
emergency procurement because it was over $5,000. The process went forward, but
in the meantime, they ran into more issues. They're looking at alternative options,
but it's mostly finance mandating how they go about procuring things and running
into issues there. Chief Todd stated they're looking at a few other options to pursue
a boat and Sayres is still a possibility.
Commissioner Magsalin stated she is happy some commissioners are retired
firefighters; however, she feels there should be a process when people go to them
with complaints. She feels they're privy being that they're retired firefighters and
know personnel at different stations. If someone goes to a commissioner with
concerns, maybe they should go to the chair to discuss them first instead of
bombarding the chief with these issues. She doesn't know if it's factual, rumors, or
gossip.
Chair Kosaki stated the process is to bring it up if it's directly related to the
operations of the department or things that they're discussing on the agenda. If
Commissioner Mattos speaks to him about it on the side, that might violate the
Sunshine Law. Any issues that he has, he can bring it up with the chief. Chair Kosaki
asked DCC Wong to correct him if he was wrong, but he believes this is an open
forum for the commission to address issues with the chief regarding the
department's operations.
DCC Wong stated that's correct. It's an open meeting, there's notice that is posted
for the public. People can come in and testify whether it's good or bad and if they
want to file a complaint. She stated she is unsure about what was stated earlier
regarding Commissioner Mattos and Chair Kosaki being privy to any information. All
the information that commissioners receive should be done here. She thinks that's
the process that is followed.
Commissioner Magsalin stated if someone comes up to her with a complaint or
concern, she would want to know if it's a fact. Chair Kosaki stated not everything
they are told is a fact. The public is invited to attend the meetings, it's an open
forum, but a lot of times the public doesn't want to come. They know there are
commissioners here and they see them as an avenue to bring up certain concerns.
As commissioners, they can determine if it's a valid point and whether to bring it up
or not. They're not bombarding the chief, they're bringing up issues to help him
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address these issues to make the department better. Chair Kosaki told Chief Todd
he hopes he doesn't take anything they say as an attack, that is not their intention.
They're just bringing up things to help him do better, as far as running the
department operationally.
Chief Todd stated it doesn't bother him and he understands the point that
Commissioner Magsalin was trying to make. She's saying does each commissioner
get the opportunity to just go wherever they want before clearing it with the chair. As
far as Sunshine Law, that doesn't apply, it's when three or more get together and
start having meetings. If it's just one commissioner reaching out to the chair
requesting to address something at the meeting, that could be something that the
Fire Commission can establish as a structure, that's the choice the commission
would take. The Commission should also decide if any commissioner can bring up
any subject that they want. Chief Todd asked DCC Wong if he was correct.
DCC Wong stated that's pretty accurate, except where for example Commissioner
Mattos goes to Chair Kosaki then the next day he goes to Commissioner Luke, then
to another Commissioner, it then becomes serial communications outside of an open
meeting. She feels the commissioners are aware of that and that isn't an issue here.
Chair Kosaki stated they don't discuss things privately amongst each other because
they don't want to have any inclination of Sunshine Law violations.
Commissioner Henkel stated this is his seventh year of being on the Fire
Commission. He was on two different commissions, under three different chiefs and
it's the first time that he's served on the commission with firefighters. He really
appreciates the knowledge they bring, which provides him with an understanding he
didn't have before.
Commissioner Mattos stated he was not trying to tell the chief what to do. He's just
bringing to his attention, what he hears in his district. Maybe a lot of it is negative
and maybe he should give him so positive feedback. Some firefighters did say they
think the chief is doing a good job as far as being an administrator, but there were
other things that they brought up that he won't bring up in open session. As
instructed by Corporation Counsel, they as commissioners cannot go into the
stations and ask personnel about the chief or the deputy, but if it's brought up to him
from the outside, he feels he should address it with the chief.
Chair Kosaki stated as commissioners, they need to conduct an evaluation of the
chief on an annual basis. They bring things up and have the chief respond and it's all
a part of the evaluation that all commissioners need to be aware of.
Commissioner Mattos stated any commissioner could do the same thing. They can
go to the fire station to see how things are going. Vice Chair Wolf stated they should
be doing that.
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• Emergency Medical Services Branch: Chief Todd reported the EMS Branch
completed the ESO patient care documentation class for the 516t fire recruit class.
They also finished the National Registry recertification/renewal for personnel whose
certifications will be expiring at the end of March 2023. HFD received three LUCAS
CPR compression devices, from the Hilo Medical Center. These will be assigned to
Medics 6, 8, and 18. Personnel went to Braun to look at two new vehicles assigned
to North Kohala and Keaau. HFD's next five new vehicles will be assigned to Haihai,
Kealakekua, Honokaa, Pahoa, and Naalehu Fire Stations. Five personnel in the
paramedic class will begin internship rotations The EMS Branch assisted with this
year's KWXX Ho'olaule'a in Hilo. Chief Todd stated it was different this year, a lot of
issues arose. A variety of issues sprawled out onto the streets after the event had
ended, as people moved on to the bars in town.
• Training Services Branch: The 51 st Recruit Class graduated on January 15th with
18 members, four of whom were from the Department of Transportation Airport
Rescue Fire fighting (HI-DOT ARFF).
Chair Kosaki wanted to know how HFD handles the discipline with the ARFF
firefighters because they're in their class, but aren't employees of Hawaii County.
Chief Todd explained that they have their own trainers there. They have personnel
from ARFF who get converted over to trainers and work with them during the entire
training period. They're held to the same standards and they work together to make
sure it gets handled properly.
Chief Todd reported that in-service training for basic aerial apparatus operations and
maintenance was delivered at Station 14 to 26 total personnel. HFD is working on
ICS Type IV and V command and control training for battalion chiefs, company
officers, and supervisory personnel through the Assistance to Firefighters Grant.
• Volunteer Training Section: Chief Todd reported they've been doing Chapter 1
again. This is completed annually, every January they're back at Chapter 1, then
they move their way through the firefighter assessment over and over again, year
after year to keep up to date because there's constant turnover on the volunteer
side. Volunteer Company 8-Alpha responded to multiple callouts in the month of
January which consisted of 4 brush fires and 1 structure fire. Volunteer Company 9-
Bravo had 3 new volunteers. Volunteer Company 7-Bravo responded to multiple
callouts in the month of January which consisted of 4 brush fires, 1 structure fire, 1
vehicle fire, and 2 rubbish fires. HFD also has four more companies that are out
there voluntarily doing work in the community. Most of their vehicles are antiques,
hopefully, they'll start replacing some 1967 Jeep Kaisers and other vehicles.
• Fire Prevention Branch: Chief Todd reported on January 13, 2023, they passed the
NFPA fire code update. The 2018 edition of the NFPA 1 Fire Code and
amendments are now in effect for Hawaii County. On the State Fire Council side,
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they have accepted the 2021 code amendments which have gone over to the State
Building Code Council for their adoption.
Commissioner Agdeppa arrived at 10:25 a.m.
Chair Kosaki asked if anything changed in the NFPA 1 Code that he thinks is
substantial. Chief Todd stated not particularly. They're seeing some changes in
construction throughout the United States. There are code changes to basically keep
up to date with how construction is changing. He also explained that there have
been some changes to refrigerants.
• Auxiliary Services Section: 18 interviews were conducted for Fire Communications
Officer I and seven candidates were offered conditional offers of employment. Chief
Todd reported the warehouse is facing supply chain issues, which has been
affecting shipment times. He also reported updates on apparatus and equipment
repairs; there were 80 total repairs/services, 29 service calls, and 14 contracted out.
Final inspections from January 29, 2023, to February 1, 2023, in Washington for
Medic 5 and 15.
• IT: There have been updates and changes to how data is dropped into the CAD.
Chief Todd explained Bryx and updates to the system. He also reported a new
mapping feature in Spillman which shows satellite imagery, as well as units as they
move. It's tentative, they are currently working with IT to establish their own firewall
system.
EXECUTIVE SESSION (CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC)
Vice Chair Wolf motioned to meet in executive session to consider complaints against
employees of the fire department, where matters affecting privacy will be involved, and
for the purpose of consulting with the commission's attorney on questions and issues
pertaining to the commission's powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and liabilities
pursuant to HRS Sections 92-5, (a)(2)(4)(6) and the Hawaii County Charter 13-20 (b).
Commissioner Henkel seconded, with no discussion, and it carried unanimously.
Executive session convened at 10:44 a.m.
Motion to reconvene open session made by Commissioner Henkel, seconded by Vice
Chair Wolf, no discussion, and it carried unanimously. Open session reconvened at
12:35 p.m.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Kosaki announced the next meeting is scheduled for March 23, 2023, at 9:00
a.m., in the County Building, County Council Chambers, Suite 1401, 25 Aupuni St., Hilo,
HI. He won't be present at this meeting, so Vice Chair Wolf will lead the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 12:37 p.m.
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SUBMITTED BY: CHARISSE CORREA, SECRETARY
APPROVED BY: CARLENE WOLF, VICE CHAIR