HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-07-20 TSUPERSTORE(JG)
PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAII
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
JULY 20, 2007
The following is public testimony provided by JOEL GIMPEL regarding the PLANNING
DIRECTOR INITIATED AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 25 RELATING TO SUPERSTORES
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at 3:08 p.m. at the Waikoloa Beach Marriott, Naupaka III, 69275 Waikoloa Drive, Waikoloa,
Hawaii, with First-Vice Chairman C. Kimo Alameda presiding.
PRESENT: C. Kimo Alameda ABSENT & EXCUSED: William Graham
Takashi Domingo Alvin Rho
Andrew Iwashita Rodney Watanabe
Shelly Ogata
Rene’ Siracusa
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Ivan Torigoe, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Brooks Bancroft, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Chris Yuen, Planning Director
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Jeff Darrow, Staff Planner
And approximately 20 people from the public in attendance.
INITIATOR: PLANNING DIRECTOR
Amendment to Chapter 25 (Zoning Code), Hawaii County Code 1983 (2005 Edition), as
amended, to create a “superstore” zoning district, which would be the only zoning district where
a “superstore” would be allowed.
GIMPEL: Mr. Chairman, with your indulgence, I’ve been here for quite some time,
and I noticed that on your agenda today, No. 7 was included, which is a consideration of the draft
ordinance prepared by Mr. Yuen. With all due respect, that agenda item was not on the County
website’s agenda for the Planning Commission, so I didn’t prepare formal testimony, but I would
like to make a comment or two regarding that ordinance, if that’s permissible.
ALAMEDA: Why not?
GIMPEL: Thank you.
ALAMEDA: Go ahead.
GIMPEL: And it’ll be brief.
ALAMEDA: Okay.
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GIMPEL: Without taking a position on whether superstores ought to be banned or
there should be a special zoning for it, my concern is that the ordinance before you and your
other ordinance that would have treated them also as -, banning them completely, has a fatal
flaw, which makes both of them inapplicable and ineffective. For example, both defined a
superstore to mean a business that exceeds 90,000 gross square feet, that offers for sale more
than 25,000 different stockkeeping units, and dedicates more than 20,000 gross square feet of
floor area to grocery sales. That’s all well and good. But I can show you very simply with an
example that it wouldn’t apply to a 500,000-square foot store that has 30,000 different
stockkeeping units and exactly 20,000 gross square feet of floor area devoted to grocery sales,
because the definition requires that it exceed all three, and that only does two out of three. So
it’s completely ineffective and too easy to circumvent. Although, personally I believe – and I’m
not speaking on behalf of the Kona Traffic Safety Committee; we haven’t taken a position on
this, this is my own – although I personally believe that the zoning approach would be more
appropriate because who is to say, 30 years from now, that no superstores should ever be on this
island. I’m not going to say it, and I don’t think you can. But the definition, because the devil is
in the details, the definition is fatally flawed. So I suggest that this be turned back for redrafting.
Perhaps, a definition ought to merely focus on a gross square foot measure, and including some
degree of grocery sales, if that’s the desire, without specifying a certain amount of feet devoted
to the groceries. Thank you for the opportunity to comment, and I’ll be happy to answer any
questions you have.
ALAMEDA: Any question for Mr. Gimpel? Seeing none -.
WOODWARD: I’d -.
ALAMEDA: You have a question?
WOODWARD: I’d just like to make a comment -.
ALAMEDA: Go ahead.
GIMPEL: Sure.
WOODWARD: That exact point that you brought up was brought up at the last meeting,
and that’s the only reason that I voted against the absolute ban was it was unenforceable.
Because you have to have three criteria, and it’s easy to skirt one of them. And as you said, the
devil’s in the details. And so I applaud you for your testimony, and thank you very much.
GIMPEL: Great minds think together. Thank you very much.
ALAMEDA: All right, Mr. Gimpel. Thank you.
The discussion ended at 3:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Noriko Sauer, West Hawaii Secretary
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