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PLANNING COMMISSION
COUNTY OF HAWAI`I
HEARING TRANSCRIPT
SEPTEMBER 11, 2003
A regularly advertised public hearing on the applications of PUAANUI PARTNERSHIP
(REZ 694/SPP 649) was called to order at 2:20 p.m. in the King KamehamehaÓs Kona
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Beach Hotel, Kamakahonu Ballroom IV, 755660 Palani Road, Kailua-Kona, Hawaii,
with First Vice-Chairman Earl Fujikawa presiding.
PRESENT:Earl FujikawaABSENT & EXCUSED:Fred Galdones
Bill Graham Jeffrey McCall
Florence Kubota Bill Thibadeau
Aurelio C. Mina, Jr.
Francis Smith
Hannah Springer
Craig Masuda, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Christopher J. Yuen, Planning Director
Norman Hayashi, Staff Planner
Phyllis Fujimoto, Staff Planner
Jeff Darrow, Staff Planner
Kiran Emler representing Department of Public Works
And approximately 15 people from the public in attendance.
APPLICANT: PUAANUI PARTNERSHIP (REZ NO. 694)
Amendment to Condition B (deadline to secure Final Plan Approval) and Condition C
(construction deadline) of Change of Zone Ordinance No. 91-91, which rezoned one-acre
of land from an Agricultural 1-acre (A-1a) to a Village Commercial 1-acre (CV-1a)
zoned district. The area involved is located on the makai side of the North Kona Belt
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Road, Holualoa Village, Holualoa 1 and 2, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-6-08: portion
of 5 (formerly TMK: 7-6-08: portion of 10).
APPLICANT: PUAANUI PARTNERSHIP (SPP NO. 649)
Amendment to Condition No. 5 (construction deadline) of Special Permit No. 649, which
allowed the establishment of a 10-room inn on 3 acres of land situated within the State
Land Use Agricultural District. The area involved is part of the Holualoa Inn complex
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situated on the makai side of North Kona Belt Road, Holualoa Village, Holualoa 1
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and 2, North Kona, Hawaii, TMK: 7-6-08: portion of 5 (formerly TMK: 7-6-08: portion
of 10).
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Now weÓre on Item No., back to Item No. 3. The Applicant, Puaanui Partnership (REZ
No. 694), Amendment to Condition B (deadline to secure Final Plan Approval) and
Conditions C (construction deadline) of Change of Zone Ordinance No. 91-91, which
rezoned one-acre of land from an Agricultural 1-acre (A-1a) to a Village Commercial
1-acre (CV-1a) zoned district. Staff, go ahead.
HAYASHI:Mr. Chair, since both Item No. 3 and No. 4 are similar,
to have those two consolidated for orientation purposes.
FUJIKAWA:You may.
DARROW:Thank you, Mr. Chair. If I may direct your attention to the
location map. Again, we have Mamalahoa Highway, old Mamalahoa Highway, running
north and south. This area here is Holualoa, and this red dot signifies the subject
property. The Applicants in this case, Puaanui Partnership, are requesting to amend
Conditions B and C of Ordinance No. 91 (REZ 694), which was originally rezoned from
a 1-acre portion of land from Agricultural 1-acre to Village Commercial 1-acre. TheyÓre
requesting an additional five years to complete construction of a restaurant. The
Applicants also concurrently are requesting an amendment to Condition 5 of Special
Permit No. 649 to allow five years to complete construction on t
for the 10-bedroom inn. Special Permit No. 649 was originally p
5-bedroom bed and breakfast, and then later was amended to a 10-bedroom inn. At this
time, currently, there are 6 bedrooms within the inn.
Looking at the site map, this area here is the old Mamalahoa Highway; and this area in
gray represents the road access from old Mamalahoa Highway down
of property that is zoned, that was rezoned Village Commercial. This is the area that the
future restaurant would be located. At this time, there is an existing building on this
property.
As you follow this area down, this is the area for the Special Permit for the 10-bedroom
inn which is known today as Holualoa Inn. And, again, as I mentioned earlier, there is
currently 6 bedrooms, and theyÓre requesting five additional years to be able to complete
the additional 4 bedrooms.
Recently, the Planning Department had received a letter of concern from Georgene Inaba
regarding a trail, and I will defer going into detail for the ApplicantÓs representative. But
just for your location, right here along this northern portion of the property is where this
trail runs, itÓs a 12-foot trail; and, so, itÓs not really identified on this map. But if you
would follow it along the northern boundary, it would be 12 feet from this property line
here.
This area here is zoned Agricultural 1-acre. So this setback on this side would actually
be 20 feet, so itÓd be well out of this area that the trail is located for, to have any
development.
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The Planning Director is recommending a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the
HawaiÒi County Council for the amendment to Change of Zone Ordin
REZ 694; and, also, the Planning Director is requesting approval for the amendment to
Special Permit No. 649. Are there any questions?
FUJIKAWA:Any questions, Commissioners, to the staff? Commissioner
Springer, go ahead.
SPRINGER:Did I understand correctly that youÓre going to, youÓre asking the
ApplicantÓs representative to answer the questions that Ms. Inaba had?
DARROW:He had, the ApplicantÓs representative recently had submi
response; and basically the response is stating that, as I mentioned in the presentation,
that the setback from the property line is 20 feet. The actual trail is 12 feet and runs
along the border. So any development would not affect this trail on the property.
SPRINGER:But her question is what transpired in the 1990Ós that led to the
trail being eliminated from the map?
DARROW:Okay. That might be a good question for the ApplicantÓs
representative.
SPRINGER:Thanks.
DARROW:Thank you.
KUBOTA:Mr. Chair?
FUJIKAWA:Commissioner Kubota. Go ahead.
KUBOTA:Jeff, in essence, by your write-up of the conditions, the
conditions, you are consolidating Conditions B and C?
DARROW:Correct.
KUBOTA:Thank you.
FUJIKAWA:Is there any other questions from the Commission to the staff? If
not, the owner or the ownerÓs representative, please step forward?
KUBOTA:Mr. Chairman, IÓm sorry IÓm late but I do have one more q
of staff.
FUJIKAWA:You may proceed.
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KUBOTA:According to DPW memo, I guess thatÓs Exhibit B, they pro
certain conditions on roadways, specifically Nos. 2 and 3 and 4. Where are they reflected
in the conditions?
DARROW:It appears theyÓre not reflected in the conditions. The previous
ordinance had some pretty strict conditions for the Applicants. And, in fact, thatÓs the
main reason why weÓre here today. Because the cost of being able to do the
improvements that were required under the previous, under this ordinance, had set them
back financially a great deal. So, at this time, it would appear that this would be a great
burden to continue to place on the Applicants, and that we would be looking at just
allowing them additional time to complete construction.
KUBOTA:IÓm not getting the gist of the answer. ItÓs not answering my
question. On July 21, 2003, DPW sent this memorandum.
DARROW:Right.
KUBOTA:Okay, and in that memorandum of July 21, they have specif
recommendations to make on the roadways.
DARROW:Yes.
KUBOTA:I donÓt see them reflected in the conditions, and maybe IÓm
missing something.
HAYASHI:Okay. Basically, if youÓll note that this is a time extension request,
as well as a time to, time extension request -.
KUBOTA:Yes, yes.
HAYASHI:And, basically, the comments that were received from the
Department of Public Works goes beyond that and -.
KUBOTA:Goes beyond what?
HAYASHI:Beyond the request that was before them for review -.
KUBOTA:I see.
HAYASHI:That is for an amendment to Condition B, which was a tim
secure Final Plan Approval, and, also, in which to commence construction.
KUBOTA:I see.
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HAYASHI:So, normally, what we do is just review, whenever someone comes
in for an amendment to a zone change, we basically review their request and not impose
additional conditions that are not related to this specific request at hand.
KUBOTA:Oh, I see.
HAYASHI:So, on that basis, we did not include anything regarding the
roadway improvements that Department of Public Works had recomme
particular application.
KUBOTA:Oh.
HAYASHI:Conditions like those normally are taken care of at the time the
application is first reviewed.
KUBOTA:Yes, yes. Okay, so, in essence, what youÓre saying is the
recommendation that DPW made is moot?
HAYASHI:Well, should have been addressed at the time the initial Change of
Zone application was taken up. And this goes beyond the review of the request that the
Applicant is seeking at this time; and, therefore, we did not include those comments or
those concerns that DPW had requested we incorporate as part of this time extension
request.
KUBOTA:Okay. IÓll ask a hypothetical question. Supposing, and not
necessarily on this, I accept your explanation for the reason that is not in our in condition.
Hypothetically, if these recommendations, the current recommendations, seem valid and
necessary, would we still say it should have been addressed years ago when the initial
application was submitted and, therefore, even if it is critical and it is founded, we wonÓt
address it? Is that the way it goes?
HAYASHI:Well, I think, the way I look at it is that what we would advertise
for is two conditions, amendment to two conditions. And I think what, if weÓre looking
at some other conditions to be amended or to be included, then weÓre going beyond the
scope of what the request basically is and what was advertised.
KUBOTA:Yeah, okay. I can see the logic in that. But I still feel that weÓre
leaving some things that need to be taken care of untended, but thatÓs beside the point.
LetÓs not argue about it.
HAYASHI:I just also say that I donÓt think that prevents you from perhaps
suggesting that these additional conditions be imposed.
KUBOTA:Okay. Thank you.
FUJIKAWA:Is there any other question? Go ahead, Commissioner Springer?
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SPRINGER:I sometimes have shared Mrs. KubotaÓs concern that we receive
agency comments and they may be outside of the scope of the particular request which is
before us and that, especially if IÓm reading the material prior to coming to the table, I
come with one set of expectations and they may not be properly met at this time under
this application. And I guess itÓs a good thing when they present to us that sort of detail,
and then the staff here from the Planning Department can help us
applicability of those comments to the particular request. But I sometimes have a sense
of confusion as well when I hear, see one agency making rather detail and specific
recommendations and I donÓt find them reflected in the recommendation from Planning
Department.
FUJIKAWA:All right. Any other questions? If not, the ownerÓs representative,
Mr. Fuke? You may proceed.
FUKE:Hi, again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, for the record
name is Sidney Fuke. The ownerÓs representative is Thea Brown and sheÓs seated in the
audience. The owner has had a chance to review the, the Applicant, rather, has had a
chance to review the staffÓs Background Report and the Recommendations and has no
objections to any one of them.
I would like to note, however, just for the record that in the reference on the proposed
ordinance, that bill, and I donÓt know if it needs to be corrected, but in the ordinance,
thereÓs a reference to amending a portion of Parcel 10. What had happened was over the
course, you know, the original parcel was designated 10, but then there was subsequent
consolidation and re-subdivision. And so 10 was assigned to another parcel and the
subject parcel is now Parcel 5. And I donÓt know whether that needed to be corrected or
not. But itÓs really a minor thing but it could have some down-the-road kind of
implications, because you donÓt want to have a property thatÓs zoned thatÓs not really
intended to be zoned.
I was involved in this project only in conjunction with the expansion of the B&B to the
inn; and, so, as a result, when the owners asked me to do the time extension, I had elected
to do that. But, at the same time, they also wanted to do the extension on the Change of
Zone which I was not involved in. But I had to do quite a bit of research and, so, if you
can bear it now, IÓll just give you some general background as far as like how this whole
thing came into being.
The property owner, itÓs basically the same property and essentially the same owners.
But there was a reorganization of the ownership, the partnership; and, as a result, now
you have some different members of the family thatÓs kind of doing this project. Back in
October of 1997, a maximum of a 5-room bed and breakfast was app
Planning Commission. And between September 1998 to April of 199
maybe I should back up, between September 19 - oh, IÓve got it a
September 1988 to April 1991, they wanted to expand the bed and breakfast to an inn, put
in 15 to 20 bungalows, restaurant, gallery, etc. over 14 acres o
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reduced to 7 acres. Then in, they had quite a bit of discussion with the then Planning
Director, who also happens to be here in the audience. And then, finally, what happened
in the upshot is in July of 1991, the owners then agreed to down-zone a 1-acre area. If
you look at the map, Jeff, if you can kind of point it out, they had agreed to down-zone a
1-acre area, and in its place zoned this area to 1 acre. This 1-acre area that was
commercially-zoned was down-zoned to Open; and thatÓs all within the town of
Holualoa. So, basically, it vwas a land swap, a zoning swap, yo
restaurant and the shop,
When that project was rezoned to Commercial, there was like a number of conditions.
And one of the conditions stated that, and the conditions were tied in with the bed and
breakfast, so thatÓs why itÓs all kind of related. And they said that, you know, you could
not expand the bed and breakfast until you do certain roadway improvements. And one
of the roadway improvement conditions said that, you know, you h
improvements to the old Holualoa Road, the Mauka Road. Well, this was done at a cost
of about $90,000 plus dollars in 1994. And when that happened, they were then in a
position to apply for the permit to expand the 4-bedroom or the 5-bedroom B&B up to a
10-room inn. The inn was granted, the permit for the, the Speci
approved in October of 1997. Then they applied for an extension back in 1999; and the
requirement was that they had to complete it by September of 2002, that is to say the
5 rooms.
What they have completed so far is a total of two additional rooms, well, they had like
4 rooms and they completed 2 rooms. It was already finaled today is what Ms. Brown
told me this morning, so they were granted Final Approval. So they basically have 4
more rooms outstanding that they need construct; and they just need the additional time.
If you look at the presentation map, the 4 additional rooms would be located on the right-
hand side of the Holualoa Inn, which is kind of shaded in orange, thatÓs where the
4 rooms -. The two additional rooms that were constructed were actually renovations
within the existing structure.
Relative to the questions that, I guess, first of all Commissioner Kubota, you had raised
about the 5-foot additional road setback along the highway, when the bed and breakfast
permit was approved to a 10-room inn in 1994, there was a condition that stated as
follows and IÓll read it to you: ÐThe Applicant shall comply with the Department of
Public Works Building Division, Traffic and Engineering Divisions, relative to the
proposed structural additions, driveways, site distance, slope drainage and any other
necessary requirements for this proposed use.Ñ So, by virtue of that, I believe like if,
when they applied for the additional improvements that the Public Works Department
wanted to require, like the 5-foot additional setback, that they would be in a position to
do that. That would also be supported by the fact that they had already written a letter to
the Department in response to that comment stating that the Applicant had no objections
to setting aside that 5 additional feet along the highway for this road improvement.
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The other question I think that you had raised, Commissioner Springer, you know, dealt
with this 12-foot wide trail. I do have a copy of a map that was prepared by Wes Thomas
Associates which showed an existing trail thatÓs 12 feet wide that abuts the north end of
the subject property. Why it wasnÓt picked up in that presentation map, I donÓt know.
But when Wes Thomas Associates prepared the rezoning exhibit, you know, for the
commercially-zoned area, they did reflect a 12-foot wide, the trail running mauka-makai.
Again, you know, the Applicant, you know, because you already ha
requirement of 20 feet because adjoining properties are zoned agricultural -. And, so,
based on the zoning ordinance, you have to respect the setback of the adjoining property
owners if itÓs less. So in this situation here, because itÓs agriculturally-zoned, the
required setback is 20 feet, you know, from any of the proposed
as a result, you know the trail, whether itÓs legal or otherwise, but weÓre conceding that it
is, it exists, would not be impeded by any of the proposed improvements. And if you
want a condition along that line, I do have a proposed condition
itÓs necessary.
FUJIKAWA:Is there any other questions from the Commission to the
ApplicantÓs representative? Go ahead, Commissioner Springer.
SPRINGER:Mr. Fuke, do you anticipate that the Applicant will be conducting
any activities with or without the condition that would remove the trail from the
landscape?
FUKE:No.
SPRINGER:Does your proposed condition indicate the protective nature of
their intent?
FUKE:Well, what I was going to suggest was something along this line -.
Since the minimum setback requirements are already 20 feet, that
maintain a minimum setback of 20 feet along the north property line and there shall be no
other improvements, including landscaping, within 12 feet of the north property line.Ñ
ÒCause sometimes you can have landscaping within that area and that could impede the
flow.
SPRINGER:Jeff, could you point out where the trail alignment is on the map on
the wall?
DARROW:Sure. ItÓs identified along the northern boundary of this area here,
and it also runs up to Old Mamalahoa Highway, and continues down
SPRINGER:And is immediately adjacent, the boundary? ItÓs virtually on the
boundary?
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DARROW:ItÓs on the, itÓs actually located, if IÓm not mistaken, on the
ApplicantÓs property along the northern boundary, 12 feet in.
SPRINGER:Twelve feet in?
DARROW:Correct. From the boundary 12 feet in.
SPRINGER:And thereÓs a 20-foot setback?
DARROW:Correct.
SPRINGER:Thank you.
FUJIKAWA:Any other question from the Commission? Staff or the Applicant?
If not, Commissioners, we are looking at the Conditions B and 5, right, for the
amendment?
DARROW:B and C for the rezone and Condition 5.
FUJIKAWA:Right.
YUEN:On the trail -.
FUJIKAWA:Go ahead.
YUEN:I would suggest, after reviewing this, saying more directly that the
trail running on the northern side of their property, 12 feet wide, shall not be disturbed.
FUJIKAWA:Add that to it. Did you get it, staff?
DARROW:Correct. You want me to put together a condition?
YUEN:No, just as I said it.
FUJIKAWA:Okay.
YUEN:The trail, the 12-foot wide trail running on the northerly side of the
property shall not be disturbed.
DARROW:Now weÓre going to be adding this as a condition to the
amendment. And, so, we would be looking at L, okay, Condition L, and, as well as the
revised Condition B and the elimination of C, IÓm sorry, the previous C.
FUJIKAWA:Commissioner Springer?
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SPRINGER:While I commend the ApplicantÓs representative and the Director
for the initiative on this, itÓs just that the trail isnÓt contained only on this property. So the
issue of the trail, whether as an access-way or historic site, presumably continues beyond
the boundaries of this property; and we may hear of it again and take it up under other
applications. And I noticed that State Historic Preservation Division signed off that no
historic sites would be impacted by this undertaking, and there hasnÓt been a discussion
of the trail as a historic site. But does this record, the record of this proceeding then
constitute that discussion of the trail as a historic site?
FUJIKAWA:Okay, any other?
KUBOTA:ThatÓs a question she posed.
YUEN:Let me make a suggestion. Maye we can do this on the staff
If we would write a letter to the Na Ala Hele Program asking them, enclosing Ms. InabaÓs
letter in that, and asking them for a letter we believe this is
would look into why it was removed from the tax maps and possibly re-enter it on the tax
maps. At this point, to figure out the legal status of a trail like this is a, it can be a major
undertaking and require abstracting. We donÓt have it, the staff to do that in the Planning
Department. Na Ala Hele Program has somebody assigned to do tha
do that or not, I donÓt know. But thatÓs really, I think, the best thing to do right now. If
itÓs erroneously, the problem is that once itÓs removed from the tax -, people tend to rely
on the tax maps, they, for all kinds of information. And, so, w
removed from the tax maps -. Although it may be on an early tax
the drawer, itÓs not a new tax map, people gradually forget and you lose any indication
that this is, there is a trail here. So, there may have been a good reason, there may have
been, it may have been purchased out. Something else like that might have happened.
But I think this is the best way to investigate this, and see whether it should be re-entered
onto the tax maps.
SPRINGER:Thank you.
FUJIKAWA:Very good. Any other question from the Commission?
KUBOTA:I had a question -.
FUJIKAWA:Commissioner Kubota.
KUBOTA:That I wanted to ask. So the status of Condition L stands for this
application only, is that my understanding?
YUEN:Yes. We canÓt, without knowing what the legal rights are, I canÓt
say they should keep it -.
KUBOTA:Yes, I understand.
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YUEN:That they should dedicate it, or recognize it as a public trail.
KUBOTA:But it does, you want to insert it as an addition to conditions and
label it L?
YUEN:Right, to -.
KUBOTA:Okay.
YUEN:To require the width, the physical width, physical remnant of a
trail be kept, pending our inquiry as to whether itÓs still a legal public right-of-way, if it
was one in the first place, for that matter.
FUJIKAWA:Commissioners?
KUBOTA:Yes, IÓm ready.
DARROW:Could I interject?
FUJIKAWA:Go ahead, staff.
DARROW:Do we, we also want to be able to place the same Conditio
within the Special Permit as a Condition 14.
FUJIKAWA:Mr. Yuen?
YUEN:The Special Permit goes on the same, the trail goes on the
property, the trail is on the same property.
DARROW:Correct.
YUEN:Okay. Yes, I would, yes.
DARROW:Thank you.
KUBOTA:Is that No. 14? Because we donÓt have the conditions -.
which, is being amended.
DARROW:Commissioner Kubota, I believe the, within the Background and
the Recommendation, there was an exhibit of the previous Special Permit and ordinance.
FUKE:ItÓs actually found in the report that I prepared as Appendix A.
DARROW:Is that going to be a problem, Sidney, being able to continue? The
trail continues on Parcel 5 and so we would -?
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FUKE:Well, I think that if I understand the Planning DirectorÓs proposed
condition, I think itÓs acceptable. What heÓs saying is that that trail which runs along the
northern end of the boundary, the 12-foot wide trail, shall not be disturbed. And theyÓre
not making any claims about access or otherwise until it has to be definitely proved. But,
I guess, until that time it should not be disturbed, so -.
FUJIKAWA:Do you, you were able to find it?
KUBOTA:Yes, I found it. ItÓs in our, itÓs not an ordinance.
DARROW:No, itÓs not. ItÓs a special permit. So we would be adding the
same condition to the amended ordinance, Condition L, as well as Condition 14 to
Special Permit 649.
KUBOTA:And that would be No. 14?
DARROW:Correct.
KUBOTA:Mr. Chairman, are we ready for a motion?
FUJIKAWA:Yeah, go ahead.
TYLER:Mr. Chairman, point of order. May I testify before you ma
motion? I did submit, or were you intending for me to testify on another time?
FUJIKAWA:No. You have something to say on this matter?
TYLER:Yes, sir. I sent you a request.
FUJIKAWA:Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Tyler.
TYLER:Thank you. Yesterday, I received a telephone call from Mr. Goro
Inaba. I was unable to speak with Mr. Inaba, but he did tell my staff people of his
concern regarding this trail. I was unaware of this letter by his daughter; and
Mr. Hayashi has been kind enough to loan me his copy, so IÓve had a chance to read it a
few minutes ago. I hope the Commissioners have had a chance to read it as well.
Mr. Inaba is a long-time resident and very well respected resident of Kona. And I speak
actually, in this case, Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission, outside my district
because this is in Mr. ReynoldsÓ district. But I understand he has also spoken or his
daughter has spoken to Mr. Reynolds. So I think many of you know, either from hearing
from me, Commissioner Springer or others in the community, mauka-makai trails have
been under attack for many years; and quite a few of them had be
Sunday afternoons, Saturday nights, early mornings, etc. And for those of us who have
lived here all of our lives, these are very valued assets of this community. And I would
suggest, by looking at Mr. InabaÓs map, that, indeed, the trail is not part of this property.
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And if you look to the south, you will see another similar trail
numbers of them to the north as well as further to the south.
And I would, I thank the Director for making the suggestion that no disturbance occur.
The information he received yesterday through my staff from Mr.
trail has been bulldozed. I donÓt know that because I have not had an opportunity to visit
it. But Mr. Fuke has represented that there will not be any disturbance. IÓm just
reporting to you what I heard yesterday, what I believe, you know, has occurred in
accordance with what I heard. Now it may be it was in juxta pos
not actually on the trial, I donÓt know that. But this is a historical long-standing and
obviously traditional and customary use trail, no question. And Mr. Inaba, IÓm sure his
testimony would be well received, or that of his daughter, through his daughter would be
well received by the State Historical Preservation Division. Certainly I would support
him, having known that family all my life. So at the very least the condition that the
Director proposes would be a minimum condition.
I would caution this body to determine, as suggested by Mr. Inaba here, that a
determination be made on whose property that is. Because if it is a 12-foot trail and it is
government property, the 20-foot setback does not start from the northern boundary of
the trail. It starts from the southern boundary of the trail. And itÓs very important to
distinguish this before building activity commences, because there will be a significant
difference, 12 feet, which I would regard as quite significant. And the map that
Mr. Inaba gave to his daughter and spoke to my staff about on the telephone clearly
shows a separate parcel, but I donÓt know this for a fact. So I would urge the Planning
Department to, as Mr. Yuen has said, talk with Na Ala Hele, etc. The tax maps that I
have in my office which are very old show all these trails in here, or most of them. So I
would mention that. And, of course, the rezoning condition extension will come to the
Council I understand that.
And I want to thank Mrs. Kubota for her questions because, in deed, I think the memo
from the Department of Public Works which Mrs. Kubota referred to in her first
questions regarding this matter are on target. Because if one reads the 1991 ordinance
one notices that certain things cannot take place until certain other things take place; and
indeed the ordinance as it currently stands says that should these conditions not be met in
a timely fashion, that the Director shall initiate rezoning. This is a major question, as
some of you know, that the Council has been undergoing right now; weÓve been talking
with the Deputy, with the Director. Some contain Ðshall,Ñ and the old ones contain
Ðshall,Ñ and the new ones contain Ðmay.Ñ And so the Council is wrestling with this right
now, whether or not youÓre aware of it, I know the Director is. And so the issue is, from
my perspective, as one of your legislators, is have these conditions been fulfilled? And if
they havenÓt, why havenÓt they been fulfilled?
There was a question about occupancy permit not having been granted, the building
permit not having been closed; and I donÓt know what the status of the annual progress
reports are. And I will speak with Mr. Fuke. As I say, I just received this information
this morning from my staff; and I thank the Planning Department staff for providing me
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with it. And I had no idea what Mr. Inaba was calling about except this trail. And so I
thought I wonder what heÓs calling about; and then I saw this morning, and now it makes
sense to me. So I will talk with Mr. Fuke.
But, in the meantime, on behalf of one of my friends and long-time respected families in
this community, I just wanted to share that manao with you. Commissioner Springer,
obviously, was thinking much along the same lines, although perhaps she didnÓt have a
similar call. And, finally, I would call your attention to the request of Georgene
Inaba in the last paragraph in the first page, and she makes some recommendations or
suggestions to you. And I canÓt speak for her except to say that I call them to your
attention because she was a notified property owner; and what you do with that is, of
course, at your discretion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. IÓm sorry to have interrupted you,
sir, but I want to make sure I didnÓt otherwise have to interrupt you.
FUJIKAWA:Is there any question from the Commission to the Counci
Tyler? None, staff, are you okay? You got everything up-to-date? I guess weÓll hear a
motion.
KUBOTA:YouÓre waiting for a motion?
FUJIKAWA:Yeah, go ahead.
KUBOTA:Before I move -, IÓll move. I move the Change of Zone Or
No. 91 91, Rezoning No. 694, amendment to Conditions B and C by
and C, and renumbering the subsequent conditions to follow, with an addition of a
Condition L that speaks to the preservation of the trail as worded by the Planning
Director, I did not get that, and all other findings submitted b
FUJIKAWA:Fine. Do I heard a second?
SPRINGER:Second.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, it has been moved Commissioner Kubota, and seconded by
Commissioner Springer, that this Change of Zone Ordinance No. 91 91 (REZ 694) be
approved and forwarded to the County Council. Any questions? If not, staff, go ahead
with roll call.
GRAHAM:Earl, Earl?
FUJIKAWA:Go ahead, Graham.
GRAHAM:I just had one thing. I think Commissioner Kubota said
consolidation of B and C, but I thought it was the Change of Zone Ordinance is amending
Conditions B and C but C and D were being consolidated, if I remember we were saying,
unless I got that wrong.
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KUBOTA:No, I think itÓs -.
GRAHAM:B and C?
KUBOTA:Yeah, the former B and C that were consolidated into new
language B.
GRAHAM:Okay. And as long as IÓm talking, I might as well say th
motion, the suggestion of the Planning Director was that ÐThe 12-foot wide trail running
on the northern portion of the property shall not be disturbed.Ñ
KUBOTA:Thank you. It has been corrected.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, it has been corrected. Any other questions? Staff, to ahead.
DARROW:Commissioner Kubota?
KUBOTA:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Springer?
SPRINGER:Yes.
DARROW:Commissioner Graham?
GRAHAM:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Mina?
MINA:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Smith?
SMITH:Aye.
DARROW:Mr. Chairman?
FUJIKAWA:Aye.
DARROW:The motion passes six to zero.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, weÓre on Item No. 4.
KUBOTA:Are you ready for a motion?
FUJIKAWA:Oh, IÓm sorry, yeah.
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KUBOTA:Or discussion?
FUJIKAWA:Discussion? No? WeÓre okay.
YUEN:I think the wording though, on the trail condition, on this one needs
to be a little bit different because I donÓt think that -. We should say ÐThe trail through
the subject property,Ñ rather than Ðon the northern side,Ñ because on this property I donÓt
think it runs on the northern side. ItÓs a different parcel. It runs through this property.
FUJIKAWA:Staff, okay?
DARROW:Are we wanting for the motion?
FUJIKAWA:Yes. Do I hear a motion?
YUEN:I thought we would, we just did an amendment to the Change
Zone, right?
FUJIKAWA:Right.
YUEN:And then you need to do an amendment to the, we need a moti
amending this time extension to the special permit. ThatÓs the last yellow, the last amber
item on Item No. 4. IÓm sorry.
KUBOTA:IÓm sorry, IÓm not following you, Mr. Director.
YUEN:Okay. We just did a, we just did No. 3. Oh, IÓm sorry, we havenÓt
actually gone to No. 4, agenda Item No. 4. Okay, all right. IÓ
KUBOTA:WeÓre on Agenda Item No. 4 now.
YUEN:Okay, IÓm sorry. IÓm jumping ahead.
KUBOTA:ThatÓs all right.
FUJIKAWA:WeÓre on Item No. 4 now.
KUBOTA:Yes.
FUJIKAWA:ThatÓs the amendment to Condition No. 5.
HAYASHI:Mr. Chairman, I think the Director stepped out when I indicated
that we would like to hear both 3 and 4 simultaneously since itÓs the same property
involved. So I think this is where the discussion was both on the Change of Zone as well
as the SMA. And I believe Jeff had indicated that we were also, that the condition the
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Director has proposed regarding public access would also be incorporated in this
amendment to the SMA. So I think itÓs a matter of just taking a vote on the SMA Use
Permit.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, so weÓre going to take a vote on the -.
FUKE:Special Permit.
HAYASHI:Special Permit, IÓm sorry.
FUJIKAWA:ItÓs not a SMA, itÓs a Special Permit No. 649.
GRAHAM:Earl, should I make a motion or -?
FUJIKAWA:Go ahead.
GRAHAM:Okay. I would like to move that we approve Special Permi
649 that we have before us as written by the Planning Department
amend Condition No. 5 as they have given it to us, and add a new Condition No. 14. And
the new Condition No. 14 says ÐThe 12-foot wide trail running through the property shall
not be disturbed.Ñ
MINA:Second.
FUJIKAWA:Okay, it has been moved by Commissioner Graham and seconded
by Commissioner Mina that SPP No. 649 be passed. Right?
GRAHAM:Yes.
FUJIKAWA:On Condition No. 5, amend Condition No. 5. Any questio
MINA:Call for the question.
FUJIKAWA:If not, staff, go ahead.
DARROW:Commissioner Graham?
GRAHAM:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Mina?
MINA:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Kubota?
KUBOTA:Aye.
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DARROW:Commissioner Smith?
SMITH:Aye.
DARROW:Commissioner Springer?
SPRINGER:Yes.
DARROW:And Mr. Chairman?
FUJIKAWA:Aye.
DARROW:The motion passes six to zero. Thank you for your patien
that.
The discussion ended at 3:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon M. Nomura, Secretary
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