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REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING, AUGUST 8, 2024
COUNTY BUILDING, COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SUITE 1401
25 AUPUNI ST., HILO, HI
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Robinson called the meeting to order at 9.05 a.m.
Present: Rick Robinson, Chair
John Bertsch, Vice Chair
Arthur Buckman, Commissioner
Travis Ing, Commissioner
Eileen Lacerte, Commissioner
Rod Quartararo, Commissioner
Jacob Tavares, Commissioner
Absent: Anthony Sur, Commissioner
A quorum was present.
Also present: Benjamin Moszkowicz, Police Chief
Reed Mahuna, Deputy Chief
Andrew Burian, Assistant Chief
Tuck Loy Aurello, Captain
Sinclair Salas-Ferguson, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Charisse Correa, Secretary
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS (None)
REVIEW OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I POLICE COMMISSION RULES OF PRACTICE
AND PROCEDURE
• Mission Statement: Commissioner Buckman suggested incorporating a reference to
transparency in the mission statement, emphasizing mutual respect and transparency
between the commission and the public.
• Definitions: The commission discussed clarifying the term "regular officers," which led
to a conversation about the roles of reserve officers. It was recommended to use
"sworn officer" in place of "regular officer."
• Powers and Duties of the Commission: Chair Robinson asked about the commission's
authority to hire investigative personnel. Vice Chair Bertsch confirmed they have the
authority to hire a secretary and consultant or outside investigator. Chair Robinson
noted the lack of funds. Vice Chair Bertsch mentioned the commission oversees the
department's budget, and the department is required to fund the Police Commission.
DCC Salas-Ferguson clarified that the Charter mandates sufficient funds be allocated
in the Police Department's budget for the Police Commission.
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Commissioner Buckman proposed adding more details to paragraph B about the
annual budget review. Commissioner Quartararo inquired about advising the chief on
community relations, and it was suggested to include this in the chief's report. Vice
Chair Bertsch noted the chief is developing a community calendar and stressed the
importance of commissioners being active in the community to enhance transparency.
• Organization: There was a discussion about the election of the chair, formation of
committees, and Permitted Interaction Groups (PIG).
• Commission Meetings: Commissioner Tavares proposed revisiting the idea of remote
attendance. Commissioner Quartararo raised concerns about the lack of orientation for
new board members. Commissioner Buckman mentioned that in the past, new
commissioners received an orientation from the department, which is no longer the
case.
• Policy: Discussion focused on department policies and whether the term "vote" should
be used instead of"pass" when referring to the passing of policies.
• Charges Brought by the Public: The commission discussed complaint classifications—
whether they are insufficient or sufficient and referred to the chief. Some complaints
don't fit into these categories, creating challenges. Commissioner Quartararo noted that
some complaints are hard to read and asked if the secretary could type them. He also
inquired about requiring the public to submit typed complaints. DCC Salas-Ferguson
advised that such a requirement would limit access, as handwritten complaints are
acceptable, and restricting them could lead to negative feedback.
Further discussion touched on the burden of proof and communication issues. Chair
Robinson noted the commission doesn't always receive updates on complaints referred
for investigation. DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that the Charter requires the police
chief to provide periodic reports to the commission on the department's activities and
outcomes of investigations.
• Declaratory of Rulings: The discussion included the public's ability to request
amendments to commission rules, with reference to procedures outlined in Chapter 91.
DCC Salas-Ferguson mentioned that he would review and provide specific details on
the timeframe and process.
• Subpoena Power: Vice Chair Bertsch noted that the commission has the power to
subpoena individuals outside of the department but not department employees.
• Appointment of the Chief of Police: The discussion covered the process for hiring the
chief and the appointment of the deputy by the chief, which is confirmed by the
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commission. DCC Salas-Ferguson provided guidance on the procedures in cases of
vacancies.
• Dismissal of the Chief and Appointment of Temporary Chief of Police: The procedure
for removing the chief was discussed, along with the rights of the deputy and other staff
to return to their previous positions.
• Methods by which the Public can Obtain Information: FOIA (Freedom of Information
Act) requests were discussed as a method for the public to obtain information, subject
to certain exceptions.
• Privacy: The discussion covered privacy and the management of protected information,
emphasizing the importance of confidentiality. Commissioners were reminded not to
disclose any information to the media or external parties. For any questions, they
should consult with the chair, who can review the issue with counsel.
• Counsel for Police Officers: The discussion addressed legal representation for officers.
State law mandates that the county provide and pay for an attorney in criminal cases
where an officer is prosecuted or sued for actions performed in the line of duty. For civil
cases, representation is managed by corporation counsel or county attorney. The
Commission will assess whether the officer's actions were within the scope of duty,
consulting with the county attorney or corporation counsel, who may offer
recommendations at their discretion. It was noted that these situations can be complex,
and decisions should be made with careful consideration, as they impact the
department, the county, and the individual officers.
• Contested Case Procedure: This rule spans about 5 or 6 pages and details the
management and administration of a contested case hearing. The commission would
hire or appoint a hearing officer for such cases. The policies and procedures for these
hearings are codified elsewhere and cannot be altered by the commission. Post-
hearing procedures outline how the contested case officer would manage and conduct
the proceedings.
Recess was called at 10.53 a.m., the meeting reconvened at 11.09 a.m.
EXECUTIVE SESSION (CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC)
Vice Chair Bertsch motioned to meet in executive session to consult with the commission's
attorney on questions and issues pertaining to the commission's powers, duties, privileges,
immunities, and liabilities related to the amendment of the Commission's Rules of Practice
and Procedure pursuant to HRS 92-5 (a)(4). Seconded by Commissioner Lacerte, it
carried unanimously.
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In discussing the executive session, Chair Robinson requested that the chief and staff
remain in the room. DCC Salas-Ferguson cautioned that this would break attorney-client
privilege and negate the purpose of the executive session, which is protected under §92-5
for privileged conversations with an attorney. He noted that while past practice allowed
certain individuals, such as complainants or police officers, to join executive sessions, this
may compromise privilege and is not advisable.
Chair Robinson questioned if they should proceed with the executive session
understanding that privilege would be broken or return to regular session. Vice Chair
Bertsch emphasized the need for open dialogue with the police department and noted that
policy decisions would be made in open session, not during executive session. DCC
Salas-Ferguson suggested holding a closed executive session without the chief and staff
to maintain privilege, then resuming open session to discuss matters with them.
Chair Robinson proposed the chief and staff take a break for lunch and he would contact
them when open session reconvenes. Vice Chair Bertsch emphasized that while reviewing
their rules, they should avoid rigid constraints, as legal interpretations can vary
significantly. This is the first time he has encountered this particular interpretation.
(Chief and staff exited)
Executive session convened at 11.23 a.m.
Motion to reconvene open session made by Commissioner Tavares, seconded by
Commissioner Lacerte, with no discussion, and it carried unanimously. Open session
reconvened at 12.43 p.m.
ACTION ON EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTERS
Chair Robinson announced that during the executive session, the commission discussed
their rules and regulations with corporation counsel, focusing on what is authorized under
the Hawaii County Charter.
REVIEW OF THE COUNTY OF HAWAI`I POLICE COMMISSION RULES OF PRACTICE
AND PROCEDURE (continued)
Vice Chair Bertsch reviewed Police Commission Rule 5, Section 7, which outlines the
commission's role in establishing policies and serving as a liaison between the public,
police, and county administration. He also explained Police Department General Order
200, stating that the police chief interprets and enforces commission policies, supervises
officers, and manages the police force according to these rules. He clarified that while the
commission does not directly supervise officers, it monitors them and makes
recommendations to the chief.
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Vice Chair Bertsch read Police Commission Rule 2(g), which mandates reviewing the
department's operations to recommend improvements to the chief and managing director.
He noted that this is reinforced by the Charter. He added that the commission deals with
external complaints, but internal complaints, as well as grievances, appeals, ARB, and
promotions, are within their purview. When complaints are referred to the chief for
investigation, the chief needs to report back to the commission on the findings.
There was further discussion about the annual chief evaluation required by the
commission, noting that while it is mandated, there are no specific rules governing the
process—it remains a practice rather than a formal rule. Additionally, there was discussion
about the need for the commission to be briefed on the department's internal and external
workings, including complaints, grievances, appeals, and promotions.
Vice Chair Bertsch reported that from around 2001 to 2010 when the commission used
private investigators hired by the county. These investigators handled sustained
complaints by interviewing witnesses and producing reports, with each case costing
between $3,000 and $5,000. However, police officers were not required to speak with
these investigators, who lacked jurisdiction over the department. Consequently,
investigations often resulted in merely restating the complaints and took nearly 11 months
to complete, which was problematic given the 12-month window for filing complaints. Due
to delays and the resulting inefficacy of the commission, a policy change was implemented
allowing the Office of Professional Standards (OPS) to attend commission meetings,
conduct investigations, and report findings to the commission. The commission retains the
option to hire an investigator, covered by the Police Department's budget.
There was a discussion about handling public testimony on items not listed on the agenda.
DCC Salas-Ferguson suggested adding an agenda item titled "Agenda Items for the Next
Meeting" to address this.
Additionally, there was a discussion on whether the commission should consider
complaints from department employees.
Vice Chair Bertsch proposed establishing a rule allowing the commission to self-sanction,
noting that while commissioners are appointed, there is currently no process for their
removal. DCC Salas-Ferguson clarified that there is a removal mechanism outlined in the
Charter, which states that members are appointed by the mayor, confirmed by the council,
and can be removed based on the mayor's recommendation and council's approval.
The commission discussed the best way to track all commissioners' suggestions for rule
amendments. It was suggested that the commission form a PIG at the next meeting. This
group could draft the rule amendments, submit them to the commission for review, and
then the commission could finalize the proposed amendments and proceed through the
Chapter 91 process.
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Deputy Chief Mahuna returned to the meeting, and Chair Robinson brought up the
commission's discussion about potentially hearing not only public complaints but also
internal complaints from department employees. He asked for the deputy's thoughts on
this. Deputy Chief Mahuna responded that he wasn't sure how it would work and asked for
an example. Chair Robinson mentioned a recent complaint from an officer that the
commission did not hear. DCC Salas-Ferguson clarified that the rules specifically state the
commission handles complaints from the public, and while each case is reviewed
individually, the commission does not have the authority to investigate internal complaints.
Vice Chair Bertsch noted that this was the first time, during his tenure, that a police officer
filed a complaint with the commission. At the time, the opinion was that the commission
couldn't address the complaint. Looking at the rules now, they are considering how to offer
an open-door policy for everyone, including officers. While officers should go through
internal channels for complaints, if they feel frustrated or fear retribution, they would still
have a voice with the commission. The commission wouldn't investigate the complaint but
would bring it to the chief's attention for further action, with the chief reporting back to the
commission.
(Chief Moszkowicz returned to the meeting)
Deputy Chief Mahuna asked how the commission would handle a complaint of a
promotional nature if an officer brought it to them. Vice Chair Bertsch responded that,
under the Charter and Rules, the commission is tasked with reviewing, monitoring, and
working with the chief on promotions. If such a concern were brought before the
commission, it would fall within their jurisdiction, and they would discuss it with the chief,
who could then either justify the promotion or investigate the issue further.
DCC Salas-Ferguson pointed out that Vice Chair Bertsch's interpretation of the Rules and
the commission's authority is his own opinion. He explained that he hadn't had the chance
to fully review the matter and would need a specific fact pattern to provide a legal opinion,
noting that there is a lot of grey area. Vice Chair Bertsch referenced the County Charter 7-
2.2(b)(2) under the Police Commission heading. DCC Salas-Ferguson acknowledged that
it states, "The Police Department shall be operated in accordance with the following,"
outlining what the department is required to do. Vice Chair Bertsch then asserted that the
Police Commission is part of the Police Department. DCC Salas-Ferguson clarified that
while the commission is part of the department, its role is primarily to hire and fire the
police chief, and that this could be part of the criteria for evaluating the chief. Vice Chair
Bertsch added that to effectively evaluate the chief, the commission must be informed of
these matters. DCC Salas-Ferguson reiterated that the Police Department has specific
duties, and the Police Commission holds the chief accountable to those standards. He
emphasized that the commission's powers and duties are clearly outlined in subsection c,
1 through 9.
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Vice Chair Bertsch expressed that officers should have the ability to bring concerns to the
commission. Without that information, it's difficult for the commission to advise the chief
effectively or provide a fair evaluation.
DCC Salas-Ferguson suggested waiting until a specific situation arises before analyzing it,
as it's challenging to address hypotheticals without specific details. Vice Chair Bertsch
recalled a previous instance where the commission received a complaint from an officer
but chose not to accept it, a decision he feels may have been shortsighted. He believes
the officer should have been allowed to present their case, and the commission could then
determine if it fell within their jurisdiction or should be addressed with the chief. Chair
Robinson noted that the officer had already filed a complaint with OPS.
There was a discussion about providing the commission with orientation and training.
Previously, training focused mainly on the Sunshine Law, but the commission expressed a
need for additional training to better serve the department. Chief Moszkowicz
acknowledged their request and explained that much of the desired information overlaps
with what they teach recruits. He suggested that it wouldn't be difficult to arrange a day
during recruit training to include the commission. Since recruit classes begin every four
months with a new curriculum, this could become an ongoing process for new
commissioners. He agreed that it would enhance the commission's ability to perform its
duties.
Commissioner Ing expressed his support, noting that when he suggested this last year,
many commissioners were opposed, and he was glad to see the commission now moving
forward with the idea.
Chief Moszkowicz added that the training could be offered voluntarily, leaving the decision
to participate up to the commission. Whether it becomes mandatory would depend on the
appointing authority.
Chair Robinson asked for the chief's input regarding complaints referred to him for further
action, whether related to customer service concerns or further investigation. He noted that
the commission doesn't always know what happens after referrals. While they receive the
annual report to the legislature, they don't get updates on other referred matters. When
OPS reports back, they only see that it was referred to the chief but not the final outcome.
Chief Moszkowicz explained that once a case is referred, they conduct an investigation,
which involves Garrity or compelled statement, which typically leads to an Administrative
Review Board (ARB), a finding, and a recommendation. That recommendation goes to
him, and he makes the final decision on whether the charge is sustained, exonerated, or
unfounded. If sustained, he decides on the appropriate discipline or non-disciplinary action.
He believes the commission receives everything up to the decision on discipline or non-
disciplinary measures, similar to what is shared with complainants. Chief Moszkowicz
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stated he sends the commission a report indicating whether the complaint was sustained
or not.
Commissioners Lacerte and Bertsch mentioned they haven't been receiving those
updates. Chief Moszkowicz responded that he's been signing the letters, but
Commissioner Lacerte reiterated that they haven't been getting them and are unaware of
what happens after a case is referred.
Vice Chair Bertsch emphasized that for the commission to fulfill its responsibilities and be
well-informed, it's essential to hear from the chief not just about the final outcomes, but
also how those outcomes were reached. This knowledge would help the commission
handle future complaints more effectively.
Chief Moszkowicz explained that when they charge an employee with an administrative
violation, they are very specific about the facts. However, when reviewing the
commission's rules, he notices a broad approach. The commission's focus appears to be
on whether there is misconduct, such as malfeasance, misfeasance, or nonfeasance,
which is much less specific. He highlighted that they are dealing with two different
standards and systems. Another key difference is the burden of proof. For the commission
to determine misconduct, a preponderance of evidence is required, after which the case is
referred to OPS, triggering Garrity rights and a full investigation that may lead to
disciplinary action. In contrast, they require clear and convincing evidence as opposed to a
preponderance. A higher standard of clear and convincing evidence is necessary to
impose discipline.
Chief Moszkowicz cautioned against using the end result of the process to guide the intake
process and raised concerns about the privacy rights of employees. The terms of their
contract restrict what can be revealed regarding discipline—such as termination or
suspension—until a certain time after the last step of administrative grievance procedures.
He said he would need to consult with counsel on what can be shared, ensuring that he
does not unintentionally violate any rules or agreements by disclosing information to the
commission.
Commissioner Lacerte asked hypothetically what happens if an officer provides false
information during a complaint investigation, as evidenced by reports and BWC footage.
She noted that sometimes they never hear about the outcome. Chief Moszkowicz
responded that if someone lies to the commission, it could potentially be considered a
crime, regardless of whether they are sworn in or not, due to the existence of laws against
falsifying unsworn statements. In such cases, both the original conduct and the false
testimony would be investigated if referred as such. Once the investigation, including a
compelled statement, witness interviews, and ARB review, is completed, the outcomes
should be shared with the commission. He mentioned that he signs letters indicating these
outcomes.
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Vice Chair Bertsch then asked Chief Moszkowicz to explain Garrity. The chief described
Garrity as a Supreme Court case allowing law enforcement agencies to compel employees
to answer questions under threat of termination during administrative investigations, they
don't have the right to remain silent. This is different from criminal investigations, where
employees are treated the same as every other citizen. They're read their rights and if they
want to make a statement they can and if they don't want to, they have a 5t" Amendment
right and it can't be held against them. In administrative investigations, employees are
required to answer questions, and refusal to do so can result in termination.
Chair Robinson revisited the original question about providing updates on cases referred
to them. Chief Moszkowicz confirmed that updates could be provided and that copies of
the letters sent to complainants could also be shared with the commission, indicating
whether the complaints were sustained or not.
Ms. Correa mentioned the Monthly Status Report, which includes information on whether
referred complaints were sustained or not. This report is provided to the commission each
month. DCC Salas-Ferguson added that the report includes information such as the date
received, the date occurred, OPS#, external HPD/HPC, employee, complainant, allegation,
status/final disposition. It shows the status or final disposition of the investigation.
Commissioner Lacerte inquired if these reports only indicate whether cases were closed or
not. DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that the reports vary; they might show outcomes such
as "unfounded" or "sustained," reflecting the results of the investigations. Some reports
indicate whether the allegations were sustained or not. According to the Charter, the chief
is required to report back on actions taken regarding cases investigated by the Police
Commission. That's been interpreted in the past to provide the ultimate disposition to show
if it was sustained or not.
Chair Robinson stated there would have to be some consequence associated with that,
correct? DCC Salas-Ferguson stated currently, they're not saying what the discipline was
and he's sure that was addressed in the past and there's probably a complex analysis
about whether or not to release that information. Commissioner Ing stated he wouldn't
want that. DCC Salas-Ferguson stated there are times when the commission and
department disagree on the interpretation of a provision, that's where declaratory rulings
come into play, the circuit court would find what that actually means. It's better to just have
a working understanding of what that means. The working understanding right now is that
the Police Department provides whether or not it was sustained or not.
Chief Moszkowicz explained that, under HRS §92F-14, certain disciplinary outcomes, such
as terminations, suspensions, or counseling, are not publicly disclosed until 90 days after
the completion of the highest grievance step. He would need to consult with counsel to
determine if the commission's authority could override these public disclosure restrictions.
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Commissioner Lacerte expressed that she is more interested in knowing whether discipline
was imposed rather than the specifics of suspensions or terminations. Commissioner
Tavares noted that he doesn't believe they are receiving information about whether
complaints were sustained. Chief Moszkowicz responded that Ms. Correa mentioned this
information is provided to them. Commissioner Lacerte reiterated that her primary concern
is to ensure accountability and to know if any actions were taken.
Vice Chair Bertsch noted that the commission is seeking more detailed information.
Historically, predecessors were very forthcoming and shared ultimate details or at least
answered questions, while others were less forthcoming. He emphasized that it is up to the
chief to provide the commission with the information needed to make well-informed
decisions, within appropriate bounds. Chief Moszkowicz indicated that he is unsure about
what can be shared but is willing to provide information if he is authorized to do so.
Chair Robinson informed the chief that at their next meeting, they will form a working group
to move forward with revisions and will likely seek his input throughout the process. He
thanked the chief for his contributions.
Deputy Corporation Counsel Cody Frenz addressed the commission to clarify a few points.
She explained that OPS attends commission meetings and provides updates on
complaints, including details in the final reports. However, as the chief noted, personnel
files are protected by law, and the commission is not entitled to access them at this time.
According to the Charter and current rules, the commission cannot access personnel file
information until the grievance processes are completed, which includes 90 days after the
highest level of grievance. She advised the chief to withhold such information to avoid
privacy violations, as the Charter and rules do not mandate its disclosure. The commission
will receive updates on whether complaints are founded or unfounded at each hearing
Chair Robinson clarified that the information can be provided once it's legally permissible.
DCC Frenz agreed, stating that it's just a matter of timing. Vice Chair Bertsch
acknowledged this, noting that it's reasonable since there are cases where administrative
remedies have been exhausted, allowing the commission to review and learn from them.
These cases still serve as valuable educational tools, helping the commission gain a better
understanding and avoid feeling uninformed, even if the case is from years ago. Chief
Moszkowicz added that some cases can remain in arbitration for several years.
Vice Chair Bertsch asked Chief Moszkowicz if he could share information on pending
grievances with the commission. Vice Chair Bertsch mentioned that SHOPO had
approached him, questioning why the commission doesn't attend the monthly or quarterly
grievance meetings with the chief. Chief Moszkowicz clarified that such meetings don't
exist in that form. However, regarding the process, he explained that they meet with
SHOPO quarterly and, despite offering to establish a formal process to address grievances
predating his tenure, this has yet to materialize.
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Chief Moszkowicz further explained that they sit with SHOPO's president, vice president,
and business agents during these meetings. Originally held monthly, the meetings are now
quarterly. The purpose is to address issues before they escalate to formal grievances or
lawsuits, often resolving matters informally. These discussions include policy matters and
provide an opportunity for concerns to be raised and dealt with through the chain of
command. He noted that this process has been effective so far.
Chair Robinson asked if anyone had any further questions for Chief Moszkowicz, but there
were none.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 2.17 p.m.
SUBMITTED BY: CHARISSE CORREA, SECRETARY
APPROVED BY: RICK ROBINSON, CHAIR