HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-11-03 after 8.00pm (L. Heen @ 10.21pm - 11-4-24 Y. Klahr @ 5.35am)From:Lahilahi Heen
To:WPCtestimony
Subject:Testimony On Hawaii General Plan 2045/ Go Back to 2005 GP!
Date:Sunday, November 3, 2024 10:21:11 PM
The Big Island General Plan 2005 supported communities to thrive AND supported stewardship of the
land.
The current 2045 plan is a complete 180 to the vision of the 2005 plan! Please throw it out and start using the
2005 plan to move the Big Island forward!
To see the 2005 Big Island General Plan go
to: https://www.planning.hawaiicounty.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/301643/637204664141830000
Here are a some reasons to throw out the 2045 plan:
It is too vague. The language is not clear what the plan wishes to accomplish. There are MANYconcerning sections that sound like rights, freedoms, and property are at risk with this plan. Page 111, section 17.4: "Land use application shall identify as early as possible any existing or
potential active living corridors that should be incorporated into the counties open space network." This
sounds like you'll be looking at people's property to take for open space because they apply for landuse. That is not Pono and is an invasion of privacy! 2.2 Biocultural Stewardship Goal (1.13): "Incentive private land management practices that enhance
natural resources and values and when appropriate pursue the acquisitions of lands for the
protections of natural resources." We've seen your incentives like the tax incentives on Maui, which is
costing people thousands if they don't do what the government wants. You wantto acquire land to
protect natural resources and values. Who gets to decide what are natural resources and values?Whose values are they? Why do you think it's your right to "pursue" acquiring someone's privateproperty?!!You have an entire section on climate change that looks to take away many freedoms and rights. Did
you know there are close to 2K credentialed scientists from around the world that state there is no
climate danger? https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ The reason for this narrative is the changethese policies will create will increase the pocket book of investors in renewable energy as it reducesfreedoms for the general population. Page 116, 19.7: "Concurrency reviews should incorporate reduction in vehicle miles traveled to
mitigate traffic impacts and achieve sustainability and demand management goals." The Constitution
says we have the right to travel! It is not the right of the Planning department to "demand" that your
management goals reduce that right! Anything that reads, "Reduce vehicle miles traveled" should beremoved from this plan! Please take a look at this pdf that shares a lot more issues with this generalplan. https://www.standtogetherhawaii.com/_files/ugd/86fc0c_b34739e4c99c461685de4c0207bf286e.pdf
The words home owner and farmer are written zero times in the General Plan 2045. Farmer is in the 2005general plan 14 times and home owner is written 4 times. 2005 General Plan was created by people whoknow Hawaii, her people and the land. That is the plan Big Island should use moving forward.
There are many other reason to use 2005 General Plan other than GP 2045. The biggest is the amount ofregulations that 2045 would put on current and future generations as it takes away freedoms and imposesmore rules, and fines. It would completely change the way of life on the Big Island!
Ms Heen
From:Josh Moody
To:WPCtestimony
Subject:Reject GP 2045 Keep GP 2005
Date:Sunday, November 3, 2024 10:23:51 PM
Dear Windward Planning Commission-
Lets please discard GP 2045 at this time. The document is far too simple and vague to move forward without
additional work to clarify terms with regard to property rights. The GP 2005 document by comparison has a more
complete definition of terms for land and specific uses like farms, private property, and private property rights.
I would say that the general public and the county needs more transparency before we can pass any plan, but a good
start would be to rework failures like page 111 section 17.4 “Land use application shall identify as early as possible
any existing potential active living corridors that should be incorporated into the counties open space network.”
As written this appears to be language authorizing land appropriation for conversion into “open space” - needs
clarification to read, “in no way will affect private land ownership or re-zoning of current acreage lands or
residentially zoned areas.”
Remove Page 116, 19.7: "Concurrency reviews should incorporate reduction in vehicle miles traveled to mitigate
traffic impacts and achieve sustainability and demand management goals." The Constitution says we have the right
to travel! It is not the right of the Planning department to "demand" that your management goals reduce that right!
Anything that reads, "Reduce vehicle miles traveled" should be removed from this plan.
Please expect oversight on any attempts to limit rights and freedoms in your planning moving forward. Most likely
these attempts would fail at the Federal level when challenged. None of the counties in Hawaii should expect to
waste taxpayer dollars to fight unconstitutional and radical agendas doomed to failure for rushed and poorly worked
language.
Lastly I would ask you to consider the consequences of enacting this legislation for yourselves personally. All US
citizens work to provide for ourselves and our families. Private property rights are generally the main goal, a source
of personal pride, and the reason we work. Your civic responsbility needs to identify the effect of your actions
within the planning commission.
Mahalo for your time and thank you in advance for your rejection of General Plan 245. Please edit to confirm land
rights protections for private land owers and residentail owners and with freedom of movement provisions protected.
Josh Moody
From:Barbara Jossy
To:WPCtestimony
Subject:Testimony on General Plan 2045/Go back to GP 2005
Date:Sunday, November 3, 2024 10:28:19 PM
Aloha,
Please go back to the 2005 General Plan which supports thriving communities and
stewardship of the land and throw out the current 2045 plan which has taken a drastic 180 turnfrom these priorities.
I find the 2045 plan too vague with many concerning sections that sound like rights, freedoms
and property will be put at risk. The many regulations this plan would put on current andfuture generations as it takes away freedoms and imposes more fines is completely
unacceptable.
I agree with the specific problems with this plan as outlined by Michelle Melendez and wishthat I could be at this meeting in person to stand against this 2045 plan. Again, I ask you to
throw out the 2045 plan and go back to the 2005 General Plan, created by people who knowHawaii, her people and the land, which is in the best interest of the homeowner’s, farmers and
all people of the Big Island!
Mahalo!
Barbara Jossy
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From:Sophia"s Mom
To:WPCtestimony
Subject:Testimony on the General Plan for the 3rd Time this year.
Date:Sunday, November 3, 2024 10:52:51 PM
Aloha Honorabke County Officials,
I spent a lot of time making online comments on the general plan that you proposed and I
testified already, online with you, on zoom. It seems that the county doesn’t understand our objections to the current changes in the plan,
which talk about things that appear to indicate that we would want smart cities, and that wewould want stakeholders versus homeowners. We farmers are just not making our thoughts
clear to The Hawai’i County leadership? We prefer the general plan from 2005 and amwondering if the new Governor’s leadership is causing this confusion about what we, the
people, want. Believe me, we do not want to change that much. We would love to have therights of farmers to keep their land without taxes being levied as if we are in RS
neighborhoods, because we’re not doing a business on our agricultural land. It’s hard enoughjust to manage a parcel of agricultural land, much less make it into a new business in order to
afford the taxes on it. There’s no money in selling vegetables and fruit! You get like very littlemoney selling fruit & vegetables and it takes a lot of time, plus it’s only good for so long. very
few of us are able to manage large animals. The people. I know that are doing that are alreadyrich because they had money to buy large tracks of land, which the animals require. They
could afford to build butchering capacity. That’s very few people. Most of them made theirmoney in the business world on the mainland and moved here. I tried to explain to the county
there’s a lot of stress and mental illness being in farming. Plus the suicide rate is high forfarmers!!! if you would like statistics on this, I would be glad to provide them. You haven’t
worked so hard as to run a farm but when things get tight and there’s no food coming in at theport, believe me you’ll want us around.
Let’s go back to the way it was and forget all this highfalutin attempts to become somethingthat we’re not, profit-centered business people who farm. We are families who produce food
for our own consumption and give away what we don’t eat to the community, not via formal501 C3’s, which is difficult to say the least. There’s only a couple of those available in my
area.I don’t know why you didn’t hear the Farmer’s saying “look if you raise my taxes this much, I
have to sell my land”! I can’t survive on retirement and Social Security and pay those kind oftaxes. Let’s support ag. which is what Hawaii island is supposed to be all about. The general
plan is not making agricultural production by our homeowners a priority anymore with thisplan. Nix it! Let’s be ‘homeowner centered-Farmer centered’ and not ‘stakeholder centered’.
Mahalo for considering our views,April Lee
Hawi,HI 96719
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The Big Island General Plan 2005 supported communities to thrive AND supported stewardship of
the land.
The current 2045 plan is a complete 180 to the vision of the 2005 plan! Please throw it out and start using
the 2005 plan to move the Big Island forward!
To see the 2005 Big Island General Plan go
to: https://www.planning.hawaiicounty.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/301643/637204664141830000
Here are a some reasons to throw out the 2045 plan:
It is too vague. The language is not clear what the plan wishes to accomplish. There are MANY
concerning sections that sound like rights, freedoms, and property are at risk with this plan.
Page 111, section 17.4: "Land use application shall identify as early as possible any existing or
potential active living corridors that should be incorporated into the counties open space
network." This sounds like you'll be looking at people's property to take for open space because
they apply for land use. That is not Pono and is an invasion of privacy!
2.2 Biocultural Stewardship Goal (1.13): "Incentiveprivate land management practices that
enhance natural resources and values and when appropriate pursuethe acquisitions of lands for
the protections of natural resources."We've seen your incentives like the tax incentives on Maui,
which is costing people thousands if they don't do what the government wants. You want to acquire
land to protect natural resources and values. Who gets to decide what are natural resources and
values? Whose values are they? Why do you think it's your right to "pursue" acquiring someone's
private property?!!
You have an entire section on climate change that looks to take away many freedoms and rights.
Did you know there are close to 2K credentialed scientists from around the world that state there is
no climate danger? https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/ The reason for this narrative is the
change these policies will create will increase the pocket book of investors in renewable energy as
it reduces freedoms for the general population.
Page 116, 19.7: "Concurrency reviews should incorporate reduction in vehicle miles traveled to
mitigate traffic impacts and achieve sustainability and demand management goals." The
Constitution says we have the right to travel! It is not the right of the Planning department to
"demand" that your management goals reduce that right! Anything that reads, "Reduce vehicle
miles traveled" should be removed from this plan!
Please take a look at this pdf that shares a lot more issues with this general
plan. https://www.standtogetherhawaii.com/_files/ugd/86fc0c_b34739e4c99c461685de4c0207bf286e.pdf
The words home owner and farmer are written zero times in the General Plan 2045. Farmer is in the
2005 general plan 14 times and home owner is written 4 times. 2005 General Plan was created by
people who know Hawaii, her people and the land. That is the plan Big Island should use moving
From:Hello ...
To:WPCtestimony
Subject:Testimony On Hawaii General Plan 2045
Date:Monday, November 4, 2024 5:37:21 AM
Aloha Council Members,
Please go back to the Big Island General Plan 2005.
forward.
There are many other reason to use 2005 General Plan other than GP 2045. The biggest is the amount
of regulations that 2045 would put on current and future generations as it takes away freedoms and
imposes more rules, and fines. It would completely change the way of life on the Big Island!
Mahalo,
Yuki Klahr