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HAWAII FIRE COMMISSION
REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
JANUARY 23, 2025
25 AUPUNI ST., SUITE 1401, HILO, HI
CALL TO ORDERAND ROLL CALL
Chair Kosakicalled the meeting to order at 9:02a.m.
Present:Gerald Kosaki, Chair
Carlene Wolf, Vice Chair
Brian Cushnie, Commissioner
Steven Hirakami, Commissioner
Corey Luke, Commissioner
Wesley Mattos, Commissioner
Wayne Perrin Jr., Commissioner
Rick Porter, Commissioner
Absent:Shon Magsalin, Commissioner
A quorum was present.
Also present:Kazuo Todd, Fire Chief
Daniel Volpe, Deputy Chief
Sinclair Salas-Ferguson, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Charisse Correa, Secretary
PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS(None)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chair Kosaki asked if therewere any comments or discussions regarding the
minutes. Commissioner Hirakami noted that while the regular minutes were posted
online, the executive session minutes were not. DCC Sinclair Salas-Ferguson
clarified that executive session minutes are confidential. With no further discussion
or objections, the minutes from the December 12, 2024, meeting were approved as
drafted.
FIRE CHIEF’S REPORT
Chief Toddhighlighted items from the Fire Chief’s Report. A detailed report is on file.
-28:Chief Todd recommended attending on
the 27th if choosing one day. Up to four commissioners will attend, and they should
confirm by the end of the monthfor ticket purchases. Chair Kosaki suggested
discussing the meeting date change later.
Fiscal Branch Report:Chief Todd reported that as the calendar year ends and the
fiscal year reaches its midpoint, Fire’s salaries and wages are 52.13% expended
(goal: 54.17%), operating capital at 55%, and equipment at 66.93%. EMS salaries
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and wages are on track, OCE is currently low, and equipment is in excellent shape
at 96%, with all necessary items encumbered.
Vice Chair Wolf noted that only 5% of funds were used in line item 6226 under
grants & miscellaneous OCE and asked if funds could be reallocated. Chief Todd
explained that grants have strict federal constraints and cannot be moved. He will
look intothe low usage, likely due to pending financial paperwork, and report back
next month.
Grants: CDBG grants are still pending delivery, the MIT Wildfire Mitigation grant is
moving ahead. They’re also moving ahead with the AFG base station refresh project
which at the end of last year is 100% obligated. Unused extractor funds were
approved for radio purchases. The 2023 AFG grant awarded $488,000 for an
incident command training program, bringing in "Calm the Chaos." A USDA grant-
funded brush truck, ordered three years ago, has arrived and is being prepped for
Ocean View Fire Station. Two trucks from the 2023 volunteer capacity grant are
pending delivery, while this year’s grant is funding hose, PPE, and other equipment.
They are still awaiting lifeguard towers from fair share funds, and recent approval
was granted to design a new mechanic shop and possibly a warehouse.
Further discussion covered the mechanic shop, helicopter maintenance, the Kona
HR Branch Report:Five Fire/EMS Specialists II were promoted in mid-December.
The Fire/Hazardous Materials Specialist assessment took place on 12/20/24. A
Supervising Fire Communication Officer was selected and promoted. Internal
recruitments for Battalion Chief of Operations and Special OPS have closed. For
open competitive recruitment, five candidates were referred for the Program Support
Technician position, but none were selected. One applicant for Clerk III is in the
hiring process. A Fire Maintenance Worker was hired but has since resigned. The
Firefighter Recruit physical agility test is set for February 2nd. Three Professional
Development Trainee positions remain open: ISA I, Grant Specialist, and Info &
Education Specialist. Chief Todd provided updates on WSO positions and a
supplemental agreement.
Further discussion addressed potential changes to firefighter recruitment
requirements to enhance flexibility, improve hiring, and expand the candidate pool.
Total Calls for Service: Chief Todd reported closing the calendar year with 31,143
recorded 911calls, though the actual call volume was likely around 34,000 due to
multiple calls for the same event. Incident breakdown: Fire calls 3%, Rescue and
EMS 73%. He also noted upcoming changes to the national fire incident reporting
system.
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Fire Impacts: In 2024, structure fires resulted in $5,721,816 in property losses, while
$6,409,700 was saved. Non-structure fires accounted for an additional $1.8 million in
losses.
Commissioner Cushnie asked about the progress of red flag warnings and the status
of up-staffing and protocols. Deputy Volpe and Chief Todd outlined the interim
directives and ongoing efforts to establish formal protocols.
Emergency OperationsHighlights:
o Battalion 1 (East Hawaii):Responded to a structure fire at Val Hala
Apartments, where rescue operations included saving three lost hunters.
Additional incidents included a fire on Hopue Road and a rescue at a steam
vent in Volcano National Park.
o There was a structure fire at the old bowling alley
in Kainaliu, where a successful rescue was made. Theyworked diligently with
nearby businessesto remove artwork and other items, preventing damage
and saving hundreds of thousands of dollars in property. Additionally, there
was a brush fire at Upolu Point and an aircraft emergency involving a Cessna
hard landing in District 9.
Special Operations:
o Haz-Mat:The new Hazmat 4 IFB was awarded to Hughes Fire. X-4 and X-21
are currently at the upfitter for the installation of aftermarket accessories. A
Haz-Tech class is scheduled for January 6-17, with 24 personnel selected to
attend.
o Ocean Safety: They are in discussions with HGEA about a staffing proposal.
The staffing models in Hilo and Kona have historically been different, and
they are working to align them for consistency across the island. While they
initially thought it would be straightforward,it has proven to be more
challenging, and meetings are ongoing.
o Rescue: Confined space rescue equipment has been purchased, and Sayre-
funded equipment acquisitions have begun. X-2 and X-7 are currently at the
upfitter for the installation of aftermarket accessories.
Support Services:
o Emergency Medical Services: Chief Todd provided an update on EMS
training, including hands-only CPR and medical standby at events. The 2025
distributed. The community paramedicine program and Narcan awareness
efforts continue, with EMS personnel collaborating with Kona Community
Hospital on a community education project. Pulsara is being used to improve
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stroke patient care, resulting in positive outcomes. Theyare also working with
o Training Services Branch: The 53rd recruit class participated in a firefighter
combat challenge, featuring seven skill stations such as PPE donning, stair
climb with a high-rise pack, hose hoist, Keiser sled (simulating forcible entry),
24-foot extension ladder throw, hose drag, and victim rescue. The challenge
aims to integrate firefighting skills, promote fitness, and highlight the effort
needed in emergencies. The class also completed the Fire Ground Survival
Program and one week of Rapid Intervention Training to teach self-rescue
and firefighter rescue techniques. HFD personnel, along with Civil Defense,
National Parks, and DOFAW, attended ICS 300 and 400 training at Haihai
Training Classroom.
o Volunteer TrainingSection: 1-participated in “Heroes and
Helpers” at Target.5-B (Hawaiian Acres)assisted with fire suppression
operations.5-D (Fern Acres)responded to four calls in Decemberand
participated in numerous community outreach events.5-C (Fern Forest)was
dispatched to fires.7-B (Kalaoa)was dispatched to a total of six calls.8-A
was dispatched to four fires.9-B (Kanehoa)maintained a Firewatch
on New Year’s Eve.Chief Todd noted that most volunteers were on standby
at the volunteer stations on New Year's, in preparation for potential fireworks-
related fires.
o Fire PreventionBranch:Chief Todd reported that fire inspectors are
conducting business inspections on a rotating schedule across Districts 1, 3,
7, and 9 this month, while continuing community outreach and social media
efforts. Captain Goo has led the implementation of the drone system, recently
using it at South Point for a vehicle off a cliff. Deputy Chief Volpe addedthat
divers discovered the car in the water and, using the drone, they were able to
verify its location more quickly, safely, and cost-effectively than using a
helicopter. This incident helped demonstrate the drone's potential over
traditional methods. While still refining the deployment model to comply with
HFFA guidelines, they are working toward creating an aviation section to
manage helicopters and the expanding drone program, with progress
expected through Special OPS.
Chief Todd reported that the Prevention Branch continues with community
outreach, events, and social media efforts. They supported a home adult care
company with their Home Fire Evacuation Plan and Basic Fire Extinguisher
Education, and also assisted the training division with Fireground Survival.
On December 13th, they assisted with the Magic of the Season event. On
December 14th, they attended Waiakea High School’s Health and Safety
Fair. On December 18th, they visited the Arc of Hilo for a special event,
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presenting on fire safety. They are maintaining a 14-day turnaround for plan
reviews. Fire investigations included two incidents: a residential structure fire
on December 5th and a commercial fire on December 15th.
Logistics, Emergency Communications, and Vehicle Maintenance Section:
o Maintenance:Canopy tents for stations are being planned to provide shelter
for vehicles parked outside. Chief Todd reported that the roof at Pahala Fire
Station has been completed after 18 years. Upcoming work includes Stations
2, 4, and 7. Equipment for Engine 14 has been installed and deployed. The
apparatus and repair section completed 213 repairs, 40 service calls, and
eight contracted out.
o Emergency Communications: One interview was held for the Supervising Fire
Communications Officer position, which was offered to Richard Arias. He
accepted and began on January 1, 2025. Several meetings are ongoing to
prepare for the move to the new communication center, though the go-live
date has been delayed due to various factors. Discussions with HR continue
regarding the filling of Fire Captain Emergency Communications positions.
o Information Technology:The Professional Trainee ISA I position has been
filled. Work is underway on the installation of mobile data terminal equipment
for the new Engine 14, along with Windows 11 upgrades. They are in the
process of conducting inventory checks and planning to integrate it into the
EPR Fireworks system, allowing digital tracking of equipment in individual
folders. The goal is to provide iPads for digital record-keeping, replacing
paperwork. This will also extend to vehicle checks, allowing for digital records.
Additionally, they are addressing firewall issues to enable mobile data
terminals to connect back to Spillman.
Safety Specialist Report: They are continuing with their respiratory program,
including fit testing and other related activities. They are also testing Firegrid
software for tracking the fit testing program. Work is ongoing on aviation safety
initiatives, including the development of a video. Additionally, updates are being
made to the return-to-work policy. In December, there were five accidents, four
vehicle/property damage reports, and one resolved aviation event.
Further discussion took place regarding risk management meetings with the county,
which had been paused for three or four years. These meetings will now resume and
be held quarterly.
Chief Todd announced that Captain Eric Loyola retired on December 30 after a 30-
December 30, following a 25-year career, including service with the Police
Department. Senior Account Clerk Jason retired on December 30 aftermore than 34
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years of service. Additionally, Human Resources Specialist II Jean Viernes passed
Recess was called at 10:46a.m., the meeting reconvened at 10:59a.m.
NEW BUSINESS
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Rule 5(a)(1).
Chair Kosaki opened the floor for nominations and asked if anyone wished to make a
nomination. Commissioner Perrin nominated Commissioner Hirakami for chair, while
Kosaki nominated Commissioner Wolf. Commissioner Mattos nominated Kosaki. No
further nominations were made. Chair Kosaki asked if everyone accepted their
nominations—Hirakami accepted, Wolf declined, and Kosaki accepted.
Commissioner Luke motioned to close nominations for chair, which was seconded by
Vice Chair Wolf. With no discussion, the motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Correacalled for a roll call vote:
o For Hirakami as Chair: yeas fromCommissionersLuke, Perrin, Porter, and
Hirakami. NaysfromCommissioners Wolf, Cushine, Mattos, and Kosaki. The
motion failed.
o For Kosaki as Chair: yeasfromCommissionersWolf, Cushine, Mattos, and
Kosaki. Nays fromLuke, Perrin, Porter, and Hirakami.The motion failed.
The votes resulted in a 4-4 deadlock. Chair Kosaki noted that they are missing one
member, Commissioner Magsalin, and stated that the matter will be deferred to the next
meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
Training on parliamentary procedure, ethics, Sunshine Law, and Fire Commission Rules
andthe review of meeting guidelines for effective and productive discussions.
DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that he wasn’t able to complete everything on time but
will aim to have it ready for the next meeting. He believes it will work out better, as a
new commissioner may be present by then. The next meeting is scheduled for Kona,
and he and DCC Wong plan to attend to conduct it. He also requested that the agenda
item "Review of Meeting Guidelines for Effective and Productive Discussions" be
deferred, as it was requested by Commissioner Magsalin, who is not present today.
NEW BUSINESS
Discussion regarding the process and guidelines for Fire Commissioners visiting
stations.
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Commissioner Cushnie requested a discussion on the process and guidelines for Fire
Commissionersvisiting stations. He proposed that the chief issue a blanket letter
allowing commissioners to stop by stations anytime to chat with personnel, as long as
it’s a convenient time. If it’s not a good time, personnel could inform them and request a
return visit. The goal is to make visits more flexible and easier for commissioners when
they are in the area.
Chair Kosaki asked if the proposal was acceptable to the chief. Chief Todd explained
that in the past, he had offered commissioners the opportunity to sit in on interviews and
other activities but was told that wasn’t allowed, referencing the Fire Commission Rules.
He stated he is open to the idea, as long as it aligns with the commission's purpose and
duties. Ultimately, he deferred to the commission's legal guidelines. If counsel approves,
he has no issues, but if counsel disagrees, the answer would be no. He is willing to
issue a letter based on what is allowed.
DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that there is no specific rule or law regarding
commissioners visiting stations. The previous guidance was likely to avoid interfering
with operations or administration. The Fire Commission oversees the chief and has
limited roles, such as hiring and firing the chief. The law prohibits the commission from
interfering with the department's standard operations or administrative affairs. However,
the fire chief has indicated that it's acceptable for commissioners to visit stations and
speak with personnel, as long as they give notice. He also questioned whether
members ofthe public can visit stations and ask questions.
Fire Chief Todd stated that it’s courteous for commissioners to give a heads-up notice
before visiting stations so personnel can be informed. While retired commissioners may
be recognized, other members may not be. He emphasized that the commission is
technically the boss and if they decide on a process, he will issue a memo.
Chair Kosaki clarified that the public can walk into fire stationsand talk to personnel as
long as it doesn’t interfere with operations.Chief Todd pointed out that while the public
can visit, they can’t sit in the commission’s seats or bring up issues during meetings. He
stated that the commission, guided by legal standards, can decide as a group on this
matter.
Commissioner Hirakami emphasized the ethical responsibility of commissioners to
avoid interfering with operations. He stated that commissioners should not ask
personnel about operational or wage-related matters and should act as part of the
general public, respecting the boundaries of their position.
Commissioner Mattos disagreed, statingthat as a representative of his district, he
should be able to visit stations, talk to personnel, and bring up issues to the chief
without being accused of interfering. He believed it was part of supporting his district.
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Commissioner Hirakami clarified that commissioners are not there to represent
individual districts but the entire County of Hawai'i. Commissioner Mattos responded
that prior commissioners had visited stations, introduced themselves, and asked about
concerns, and questioned why that would be an issue now.
Commissioner Perrin clarified that while it's fine for commissioners to visit stations and
introduce themselves, they should avoid asking personal questions or discussing the
fire chief or equipment.
DCC Salas-Ferguson agreed that notifying the fire chief about a station visit is a good
idea, particularly if the purpose is to learn about operations and suggest improvements.
He mentioned that at the next training, commissioners would receive a packet outlining
their rules and the commission’s purpose. He emphasized that if commissioners have
issues to raise, they should bring them to the commission as a whole, rather than
addressing them individually.
Chair Kosaki shared thatin his past experience, Fire Commissioners were encouraged
to stop by stations and ask questions, but he questioned whether they should have to
go through the chief every time, which could be cumbersome. He suggested the chief
issue a blanket letter notifying personnel that commissioners might stop by to visit.
DCC Salas-Ferguson explained that the fire chief is the administrative head and would
need to decide, possibly consulting with his attorney. Chief Todd disagreed, stating the
commission is his boss, and it’s up to them to decide how to handle visitations. He
reiterated that commissioners could simply call him to let him know before visiting, and
he had no issues with that approach.
Commissioner Perrin agreed with Commissioner Mattos, emphasizing that
commissioners should be able to visit any station, regardless of district, to review
operations and recommend improvements to the fire chief.
Commissioner Cushnie proposed streamlining the process by providing a list of
commissioner names to station personnel. This would allow commissioners to visit,
introduce themselves to the officer in charge, and ask if it’s a good time to talk. If not,
they could schedule another visit.
DCC Salas-Ferguson agreed with Commissioner Cushnie's suggestion as a good
compromise. Chair Kosaki asked if everyone agreed on visiting stations at their
convenience to review operations, with the understanding that commissioners should
check in with the captain first. Chief Todd emphasized the need for a formal written
policy, rather than just a verbal agreement, and offered to send out a memo to
personnel. Commissioner Wolf recalled that under the previous administration, Mayor
Roth had allowed commissioners to visit stations without needing permission. Chair
Kosaki felt the process involved too much red tape. Chief Todd reiterated that the
commission should formalize the procedure in writing and agree on it.
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DCC Salas-Ferguson suggested making a motion to formalize the process and submit it
for approval at the next meeting, confirming that commissioners can visit stations with a
phone call. Commissioner Cushnie clarified that the phone call would be a courtesy, but
not always realistic, and that commissioners should check in with the officer in charge
upon arrival. Chair Kosaki proposed that the chief send a notice to staff, informing them
of the fire commissioners' names and that they may stop by, without creating a strict
protocol. The goal would be for visits to be at the convenience of personnel, with no
pressure to speak unlessavailable, fostering a collaborative effort to support the chief
and the community.
Commissioner Hirakami emphasized that it's not about how commissioners perceive
themselves, but how others might view their authority. Drawing from his experience on
the school board, he noted that some may think they have the power to challenge the
CEO. He stressed that commission members should maintain a neutral stance.
Further discussion followed on the appropriate procedures for handling internal
complaints and public complaints directed to the commission.
Chair Kosaki suggested deferring the discussion to allow time to think about a simple
procedure. DCC Salas-Ferguson confirmed that everyone is comfortable with Fire
Commissioners visiting stations to learn about areas within their authority,
acknowledging that there may be issues raised outside their scope. He emphasized that
commissioners should check with the officer in charge when visiting, and if uncertain
about jurisdiction, they should bringthe matter to the chair and attorney for further
discussion at the next meeting. Chief Todd stressed the importance of formalizing this
process to avoid confusion in the future.
Commissioner Cushnie proposed drafting a rough version of the discussed procedure
for review. Chair Kosaki agreed, and Cushnie will prepare the draft for the commission
to review and amend if necessary. DCC Salas-Ferguson suggested Cushnie send the
draft to him for any adjustments, and they can discuss it further at the next meeting. The
draft should be simple, ideally two sentences.
Chair Wolf inquired whether DCC Wong had provided an update on the secretary
position and who would fill in if she were absent, as this issue had been tabled for
several months. Chief Todd responded that he was unaware of any updates. DCC
Salas-Ferguson confirmed she was referring to a backup for the secretary. Vice Chair
Wolf confirmed this, and DCC Salas-Ferguson agreed to look into it. Chief Todd
mentioned he would discuss the matter with the new administration to determine if they
have a plan in place.
EXECUTIVE SESSION(CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC)
Commissioner Luke motioned toenter executive session to consider the evaluation of
the Fire Chief, where consideration of matters affecting privacy will be involved, and
may consult with the board’s attorney on questions and issues pertaining to the
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commission’s powers, duties, privileges, immunities, and liabilities pursuant to HRS 92-
5 (a)(2)(4) a-20 (b). Seconded by
Commissioner Mattos, with no discussion, the motion carried unanimously. Executive
session convened at 11:58 a.m.
Motion to reconvene open session made by Commissioner Cushnie, seconded by
Commissioner Wolf, with no discussion, it carried unanimously. The regular session
reconvened at 12:07 p.m.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Kosaki announced the next regular meeting is scheduled for Thursday, February
27, 2025, at 9:00 a.m., at the West Hawaii Civic Center, Building A, Council Chambers.
There is the Hawaii Wildfire Summit scheduled for February 27-28. The commission
discussed potential dates for the next meeting. Considering schedule conflicts, the
commission agreed to cancel the February meeting and resume in March.
Commissioner Luke motioned to cancel the February meeting due to scheduling
conflicts, seconded by Vice Chair Wolf, with no discussion, the motion carried
unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Themeeting adjourned at 12:07p.m.
SUBMITTED BY:CHARISSE CORREA, SECRETARY
APPROVED BY:GERALD KOSAKI, CHAIR