HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-06-16 Veteran Advisory Committee MinutesVETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, June 16, 2005
County Council Room and Kona Mayor's Office (Via Videoconferencing)
3:00 p.m.
Present
Absent
Members
Denny Austen
Richard Highley
Roy Hinokawa
Wendall Kekumu
Morris Kihara
Patrick Pavao
Hideo Segawa
George Yamamoto
Kona Mayor's Office (Via Videoconferencin2)
Members
None
Guests (Kona)
Ted Funk
Manuel Delo Santos
Boss Hanato
Minoru Hanato
Herb Lum
Dr. Richard Stevens
Ex- Officio (Hilo)
Patricia Engelhard, Director, P &R
Also Present (Hilo)
Delbert Nishimoto
Nathalie Santos, Secretary
Penny Fox
Paul Johnston
Louis Kaoiwi
George Mukai
Gilbert Sampaia
Call to Order
• There was no quorum. Vice Chairman Denny Austen called the Informal meeting to
order at 3:10 p.m,
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
None.
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Previous Meeting Minutes — May 19, 2005
• Approval of the minutes will need to be voted on at the next meeting.
STATE VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD — REPORT
(See Announcements — Mr. Nishimoto will no longer be at meetings — his term has
ended)
Delbert Nishimoto, Big Island representative on the State Veterans Advisory Board
reported the following:
Veterans Cemetery III — Temporary Columbarium
Mr. Nishimoto said that Mr. Roy Kaneshiro's contract has ended as an Engineer of DOD,
he was the person keeping him informed on the status of Veterans Cemeteries Projects.
Mr. Nishimoto recommended that members be unified and keep an eye out for
Coppenhagen's arrival. Steve Morifuji is the P &R liaison the company will be in touch
with. Currently there is only one engineer working at DOD and he's been working on
the State Veterans Cemetery in Kaneohe. That is why it's important to keep in touch
with DOD Engineering Division on big island projects.
Veterans Cemetery II
Artificial Flowers and Lights
Vice Chairman Austen reported that he visited Veterans Cemetery II and there were
several artificial plants sticking in the ground. He recommended that lights be installed at
the end of the culdesac because of the kids hanging out, the broken beer bottles and tire
marks.
Flag Day — Downtown Hilo Post Office — WWI Veterans Monument
Vice Chairman Austen informed members that at the Downtown Hilo Post Office at the
WWI Veterans Monument near the (11) Palm Trees, there is a slot to insert burial flags.
Veterans Cemeteries — Rules Relating to Flowers
Artificial Flowers and Vases
Richard Highley said that he understands why families bring artificial flowers. They
can't use vases so the next day fresh flowers are no longer good. He suggests
purchasing the vases that can be turned over (somehow purchase for graves that are
already there and then require families of future burials to provide their own working
with the mortuaries).
Director Engelhard said that we would need to change the rules and set up a public
hearing if the committee wishes to allow artificial flowers.
Patrick Pavao said that rules were established to simplify maintenance and to keep
cemeteries looking nice. Families would also put pinwheels and other items which would
deter from the beauty. Cemeteries have increased in space and require more
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maintenance. There use to be just one cemetery, but now there is Cemetery I — 3 acres,
Cemetery II — 14 acres and Cemetery III — 2 acres. Cemetery space has grown and
demands on P &R staff has grown. He also recognized the veterans in West Hawaii for
the great work they have done to improve and upgrade cemetery.
Director Engelhard said that copies of the cemetery rules are given to families, the
mortuaries have them and copies are posted throughout the cemeteries. She also said that
we need to set parameters to honor our veterans and make the cemetery look like
Arlington.
Richard Highley asked if artificial flowers could be disposed of just as fresh flowers.
Director Engelhard said she doesn't like artificial flowers.
Vice Chairman Austen said that one of the signs was rusted and could not be clearly read.
He suggested that we clean it or make it clearer.
Richard Highley said that if they can't bring artificial flowers then there should be some
place that the fresh flowers could be put on graves.
Patrick Pavao said that when these rules were established, the cost factors were discussed
and the committee decided to make those vases and concrete vaults optional and the
responsibility of the families. Things change and rules could be revised if that is the
desire of the committee.
Director Engelhard reported that the County annually receives $22,500 from the State
and it costs over $100,000 to maintain all three cemeteries.
Patrick Pavao said an option would be to have an organization provide a service by
purchasing vases and make it available to families for purchase. He also said that there
were attempts to get more funding through the legislature, but that never happened.
When Cemetery III first opened up, $38,000 was to be set up for maintenance of that
cemetery, however, the state erred by letting the funds lapse.
Minoru Hanato suggested to install uniform vases that are the same on each grave, are
level with the ground and dispose of all flowers (fresh or plastic).
Delbert Nishimoto said at Punchbowl they remove flowers every third day. He also said
if we keep changing rules and there is no enforcement, it has no value. He recommends
reminding fellow veterans that there are rules. Communication is the key.
Richard Highley received quotes on the proposed vases, prices start at approximately
$18.00 for zinc and ranges up to approximately $30.75 each for bronze. The price goes
down to $23.75 if you order in bulk of 72 at a time.
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Director Engelhard said the Daughters of American Revolution were looking for a project
and may be interested in providing this service to families.
Delbert Nishimoto said that the State Veterans Cemetery in Kaneohe has a problem with
the brass vases getting stolen by scrappers. Director Engelhard recommended sticking to
zinc since there is no value.
Veterans Cemetery II — Gate
Patrick Pavao again emphasized the importance of installing a gate on the boundary of
Veterans Cemetery II to discourage the problems of teens hanging out, drinking, prevent
vandalism, etc.
Director Engelhard said there is a chain gate just before the sign, but is unsure if its ever
locked.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
VETERANS CEMETERY III — WEST HAWAII
(Reforestation Project)
Dr. Stevens reported that it seems daily project is receiving more offers of help. Today
received an offer for a load of topsoil. People are also offering to volunteer on the
project. The disappointing news is that the funding of $75,000 Congressman Ed Case put
in for fencing at reforestation project was turned down by two committees in Congress.
Continuing to write grants.
VETERANS CEMETERY I & II — COLUMBARIUMS
SUB - COMMITTEE - REPORT
No report.
NEW BUSINESS
None.
EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS
No Report.
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Delbert Nishimoto announced that this is his last meeting since his term has ended as
a member of the State Veterans Advisory Board. He again congratulated the West
Hawaii volunteer group for their outstanding community service. He also thanked
Mr. Hanato for the many hours of hard word to prepare site for the temporary
columbarium. He doesn't have the authority to inform people who will replace him,
however, he will recommend that person attend the Hawaii County Veterans Advisory
Committee meetings.
Mr. Nishimoto also said that during the latest State Veterans Advisory Committee
meeting the name of the Long Term Care Facility has been decided and should be
announced shortly.
Members applauded Mr. Nishimoto's dedication to the committee and veterans projects
for the past few years.
NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be held on July 28, 2005 at 3:00 p.m. in the Hawaii County
Councilroom and video - conferencing at the Kona Mayor's Office.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 3:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
N athaU& S avi tos-
Secretary