HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-11-15 Veteran Advisory Committee MinutesPresent
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VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, November 15, 2007, 3:00 p.m.
Hawaii County Council Room (Hilo) and Kona Mayor's Office (Via
Videoconferencing)
Members
Don Bennett
Penny Fox
Roy Hinokawa
Edward Lee
George Mukai
Delbert Nishimoto
Gilbert Sampaia
John Young
Kona Mayor's Office (Via Videoconferencing)
Members
Antonio Gaspar
Minoru Hanato
Richard Highley
Robert Welter
Guests (Kona)
David R. Carlson
Ex- Officio (Hilo)
Patricia Engelhard, Director, P &R
Also Present (Hilo)
Nathalie Santos, Secretary
Herring Kalua - State Veterans Advisory Board - E HI Representative
Herb Lum - State Veterans Advisory Board - W HI Representative
Barbara Cooper - Wreaths Across America - East Hawaii
Wendall Kekumu
Norman Stahl
Richard Stevens
George Yamamoto
Call to Order
Chairman Highley asked Vice Chair Penny Fox to conduct the meeting in Hilo since he
attended the meeting at the Kona Mayor's Office. Vice Chairwoman Fox called the
meeting to order at 3:05 pm - (12) members present.
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
No Statements from the public.
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INTRODUCTION
P &R Director Patricia Engelhard introduced Deputy Corporation Counsel Julie
Mecklenburg as the new attorney signed to the Veterans Advisory Committee.
PREVIOUS MEETINGS MINUTES — October 18, 2007
• The minutes of the October 18, 2007 meeting were approved as submitted.
REPORT ON CEMETERIES — STATE VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD
Hawaii Island - East Hawaii Representative Mr. Herring Kalua
Hawaii Island - West Hawaii Representative Mr. Herb Lum
Veterans Cemetery - Maintenance Funds
Mr. Herring Kalua confirmed that the OVS Director used the funds received from the
legislature for maintenance of the cemeteries to purchase graveliners for all cemeteries
throughout the state. He will ask Director Engelhard to provide budget proposal again so
he and Mr. Lum can present to the legislature and work together to obtain additional
funding for maintenance and other needs statewide.
Veterans Cemeteries I and II - Columbariums
Mr. Kalua reported they would try to order new columbariums through the legislature.
Vice Chair Fox asked if they would purchase the same temporary kind as Veterans
Cemetery III in West Hawaii. Mr. Kalua confirmed that was correct.
Veterans Cemetery III - West Hawaii - Landscaping Proiect
Lama Tree
Mr. Lum reported that all is going well. The result is that the VA Arborist approved
leaving the tree in its place. Tree will be saved and volcanic rock will be placed around
it.
Phase II - B - Restoration of Burial Field
Mr. Lum reported that burial field has been excavated and refilled. Conversation with
Major Mitsuyoshi indicates that project may be ahead of time in terms of completing the
burial field, however, some of the members on the West side may have comments.
Mr. Lum said he received a copy of the October 5th Engineering Report at last weeks
Board Meeting, he had not seen it before and was shocked. He read from report: "A
decision has been made to completely abandon development of Phase II -C work on the
south side of the cemetery. This decision was made based on the adamant position by the
VA to develop the left side of the property."
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After reading the report Mr. Lum called Major Mitsuyoshi right away. Major Mitsuyoshi
stated definitively that it does not mean the work scheduled for the restrooms, committal
shelter, etc. is being stopped. He was referring to the other activities on the south side
burial grounds. VA wants the concentration to be on the north side, which makes sense
because that's where the restrooms and maintenance shed will be. At this point after
burial field #2 is finished we will see the logical priority. Mr. Lum will follow up again,
but was told that it's not to be construed that they will stop the work on aspects of
Phase II -C.
Veterans Cemetery III - West Hawaii - Update on Expansion Proiect
Mr. Minoru Hanato reported that he went to the cemetery today and contractors spread
cinder soil on the new burial area and are working on the waterline.
Instructions for Maintenance Staff - Digging New Area
Mr. Minoru Hanato asked if P &R maintenance employees would receive instructions on
digging the new area to install liners. He said if they don't receive instructions on
compacting the material holding the liners, when they dig grave right next, the grave
could cave in.
Director Engelhard said the contractors assured her that they were compacting as they
went, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Mr. Hanato said he did witness the contractors compacting the ground, however, after
they dig the hole, put in the graveliners and casket, and cover with material there should
be instructions on how to compact so that when they dig the hole next, it doesn't slide
into the other side.
Director Engelhard will ask DAGS to provide those instructions.
West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery Development & Expansion Association
Exploring Drilling a Well
Mr. Lum shared that there was a West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery Development &
Expansion Association Meeting a week ago with well drillers. The company they met
with will submit different optional proposals to include cost of drilling itself, pumping
systems, storage facilities, distribution system, power generation - whether its solar, gas,
propane or electrical generators. He emphasized at this point it is only for information
and exploration. He stressed that the committee is in discussion to study various options,
costs, and to determine whether or not it's feasible to go ahead with drilling.
Strategic Plan
Mr. Lum said the West Hawaii Veterans Cemetery Development & Expansion
Association is in the process of completing a strategic plan under the guidance of a
strategic plan consultant. A significant statement of the plan defines and formulizes the
respective responsibilities of the OVS, State and County and the coordination and
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conduct of operations with these organizations. No ifs and buts about keeping these
organizations involved in what the cemetery association is doing, particularly in those
projects that have been initiated by the Association. The plan will be finalized shortly.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Veterans Cemetery III - West Hawaii
Reforestation Proiect
Mr. Gaspar reported that Dr. Stevens would schedule the next workday sometime in
January. The last planting was held on September 29th. The plants look very healthy.
Mr. Highley again suggested that Dr. Stevens attend the next Veterans Advisory
Committee meeting to update members on the Reforestation Project.
Vice Chair Fox suggested that someone ask Dr. Stevens to attend. Mr. Highley said he
would invite Dr. Stevens to the next meeting.
Water Allotment
Director Engelhard said she received a response from Kukio contact person Kevin Hinkle
on November 12th relating to water at Kukio. Mr. Hinkle said they would be able to
commit to 10,000 gallons per day. Their commitment is for 3,600 gallons of non - potable
water and 4,200 gallons of potable water. That has been demanded of them by the state
and they are willing to provide that amount. They think they can come up with at least
10,000 gallons and possibly more, but they still haven't gone through their entire water
system yet so they're asking us to wait. Mr. Hinkle stated in his email "I feel fairly
confident we will be able to accommodate this request."
Director Engelhard feels that 10,000 gallons should be enough to accommodate what we
are doing now, but it may not be enough to take care of the trees all the time.
Veterans Cemeteries I and II
Columbariums
Director Engelhard said that members of this committee were to discuss columbariums
for Veteran Cemeteries I and II with their organizations and return with their
recommendation. She asked if members had any reports.
Vice Chair Fox asked if committee members had an opportunity to find out if veterans of
their organizations would prefer columbariums or having an area for urn burials. She
said DAV Chapter 9 has not had a meeting yet, she will discuss at the next meeting
scheduled for this coming Saturday.
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Mr. Young reported that the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) organization said as long
as we have room for urn burials we don't need columbariums and liked the idea of the
monument wall for veterans whose ashes have been spread elsewhere.
Mr. Young said he is not the representative of the Marine Corp League, but their
representative wasn't present so he brought subject up and members had the same
feelings as VFW.
Wreaths Across America Proiect
Barbara Cooper (East Hawaii Liaison) shared that as of last night they collected
$9,900.00 which accounts for 660 wreaths which will be placed at Veterans Cemeteries I
and 11. Funds are still coming in, but wreaths will not cover the 4,018 gravesites at both
cemeteries, however, it's a good start for the first year. We may receive additional
wreaths, depending on the number of extra sponsorships they get on the mainland, which
may be divided among all the veteran cemeteries.
Barbara asked members if someone in their veterans groups would like to speak during
the ceremony to please contact her to be put on the program. She is also looking for
people to present the special wreaths for each branch of the military. Hoping to get two
representatives from each branch to carry the wreath, one veteran and one active duty
person dressed in uniform, holding flag for their branch of military.
Vice Chair Fox has a veteran representative for the Merchant Marines. Barbara Cooper
asked if they could also get a Merchant Marine Flag since obtaining flags is difficult.
Barbara said she spoke to veterans visiting graves of their widows at Cemetery II who
said they feel left out since all of the ceremonies were held at Veterans Cemetery I. For
the Wreaths Across America Project she is trying to incorporate both cemeteries into
ceremony by getting a speaker system or as someone suggested getting a radio station to
broadcast live. She checked with KHBC to see if Myna Bird was willing to, but they
don't have the technology so they said maybe next year. Broadcasting would also be a
way for widows who can't get to the cemetery to listen to the ceremony.
Barbara said she will link both cemeteries by having high school band students from both
Waiakea and Hilo do echo taps set up from Veterans I, spaced across the baseball fields
at the Hilo Boys and Girls Club and up to Veterans II. They will stop the baseball games
for this part of the program. She said the general wreath lying will begin at 10 am and
the ceremony begins at noon.
Barbara reported that the Civil Air Patrol Unit of West Hawaii is organizing the
ceremony at Veterans Cemetery III. The only wreaths to be presented there will be for
the (7) branches of the military. Contact person for West Hawaii is Valerie Hoke.
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Mr. Highley said he spoke to Joy Hofer who won't be able to do the ceremony due to a
death in her family. The Civil Air Patrol unit took it over and asked him to be the
speaker. The program is scheduled to begin at 7 am at Veterans Cemetery III.
Mr. Highley said Mr. David Carlson just reported there are (50) wreaths for Cemetery III.
Graveliners
Mr. Delbert Nishimoto shared a sample of a miniature graveliner that will be used at all
veteran's cemeteries.
Director Engelhard reported that the OVS would be sending over (30) graveliners per
quarter to be stored here whenever they can get a C -17 to transport.
Estimated (30) per quarter needed based on current number of burials - 10 per month -
(3) for West Hawaii and (7) for East Hawaii. Graveliners are stackable and don't take
much space. First shipment expected before the end of the year.
Cost for Maintenance of Cemeteries
Mr. Highley asked if the amount for maintenance of the cemeteries for this island was
increased to $100,000.
Director Engelhard said that information is incorrect. The actual cost is close to
$160,000 and the County still receives only $22,500 from the state. She said we would
again ask for more this legislative session; whether or not we get it is another story.
Director Engelhard said Representative Cindy Evans put in money for us, however,
instead of giving it to the County for maintenance, it went to graveliners for all of the
cemeteries throughout the state.
NEW BUSINESS
Elections
RESULTS - 2008 Chairperson and Vice Chairperson
CHAIRPERSON - Penny Fox
VICE CHAIRPERSON - Edward Lee
Flags at Veteran's Cemeteries - Should be flown 1/2 Staff during Ceremonies
Mr. Nishimoto said he attends services and ceremonies at Veterans Cemetery I and
noticed that the flags are flown full staff during ceremonies. It happened both during
Memorial Day and Veterans Day Ceremonies. The flag should be flown 1/2 staff during
the ceremony and then full staff when done. He suggested making it a rule or SOP for
maintenance employees so they know whenever there is a ceremony; the flag should be
flown 1/2 staff.
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OVS - Engineering Office
Mr. Nishimoto asked Mr. Kalua and Mr. Lum (Big Island representatives on the State
Veterans Advisory Board) to ask OVS who will oversee design and engineering work for
Veterans Cemetery III - West Hawaii Project during the absence of Major Mitsuyoshi
who will be deploying to Kuwait in June 2008. Mr. Nishimoto said when Major
Mitsuyoshi deployed to Iraq around 4 years ago all projects came to a stand still.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None
EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS
None
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 4:00 pm.
NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be held on January 17, 2008. The Hilo location will change to the
Office of the Prosecuting Attorney's Office, at Aupuni Center (same building as the
Department of Parks and Recreation). Entrance facing Ace Hardware. Please contact
Nathalie with any agenda items (2) weeks prior to meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Nathalie Santos
Secretary