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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-11-22 Leeward Planning Commission Special General Plan MinutesPage 1 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes LEEWARD PLANNING COMMISSION GENERAL PLAN SPECIAL MEETING COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I MINUTES NOVEMBER 22, 2024 A video recording is made part of these minutes, which can be viewed on the YouTube County of Hawai‘i Planning Department channel at https://www.youtube.com/live/EDLoHi2SLcg?si=1s- yt5fWLlovbml4. Timestamps are provided for reference in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 92, Hawai‘i Revised Statutes. In the event the video recording becomes unavailable at the above-mentioned URL address, the public can contact the Planning Department for assistance. The Leeward Planning Commission met in regular session on Friday, November 22, 2024, at 9:30 a.m. in the West Hawai‘i Civic Center, Council Chambers, Building A, 74-5044 Ane Keohokālole Highway, Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i, with Chairperson Barbara DeFranco presiding. This meeting was streamed live on YouTube. COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte, Dean Au, Clement “CJ” Kanuha III, Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa, Armando Rodriguez, and Barbara DeFranco (Chairperson). COMMISSIONERS ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Michael Dela Cruz ALSO PRESENT: Suzanna Tiapula, Esq. (Deputy Corp Counsel to the Commission), Jean Campbell, Esq. (Deputy Corp Counsel to the Planning Department), Zendo Kern (Planning Director), and Planning Department staff. Approximately five members of the public were present in the audience. A quorum was present. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco called the meeting to order at 9:47 a.m. and introduced the Commissioners. Staff introductions were made. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 00:20] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco began by asking each Commissioner to confirm they had reviewed all materials related to the agenda items for today's meeting. The Commissioners confirmed they had. She then made some housekeeping announcements, requesting attendees turn off their cell phones and put them on silent. She pointed out the location of the public restrooms and drinking fountain, both accessible through the door on the right. For anyone wishing to testify in person, Chairperson Barbara DeFranco asked them to fill out the yellow signup forms at the staff table and submit any written testimony not previously sent. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:46] INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW Page 2 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Chairperson Barbara DeFranco explained that the purpose of today's meeting is to allow public comment on the County of Hawai‘i's General Plan 2045 final draft and for the Commission to review and provide recommendations to the County Council. The Commission will hold meetings to review the plan until February 2025, with a final recommendation due by March 24, 2025. Each meeting will include a staff presentation, public testimony, and Commission discussion. Commissioners can make changes to the draft until the last meeting, when they will vote on the final recommendation. The draft plan can be accessed on the Planning Commission website. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:20] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco introduced the motion from the previous day's meeting. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 04:06] Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula read the motion, which was made by Commissioner Dean Au. Tiapula noted that Commissioner Dean Au had moved that a favorable recommendation be forwarded to the County Council on the application to amend the County of Hawai‘i General Plan 2005 based on the planning director’s County of Hawai‘i General Plan 2045 Final Recommended draft dated July 2024 which shall be adopted. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 05:10] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco introduced the staff presentation and asked the Commissioners to note any questions they want to ask the staff, as questions would be reserved until after hearing public testimony. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 05:33] Planning Director Zendo Kern clarified that she is not staff but the Director Administrator of the Office of Sustainability, Equity, and Resilience (OCSER). [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 06:03] STAFF PRESENTATION At 9:53 a.m. with approximately five public members in the audience, Bethany Morrison, Interim Administrator, Office of Sustainability, Climate, Equity and Resilience gave the staff presentation. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 06:23] STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS At 10:17 a.m. the Commission took up this item with approximately five public members of the audience in the Council Chambers. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 30:16] Seven individuals provided testimony in-person at 10:18 a.m.: 1) Josephine Keliipio – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 31:43] 2) Matthew Chalker – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 35:34] 3) Robert Yunuke – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 37:13] 4) Michelle Melendez – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 41:05] 5) Rebecca Melendez – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 45:00] 6) Valerie Yamagata – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 49:05] 7) Sharon Willeford – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 53:57] Nine individuals provided testimony on zoom at 10:42 a.m.: 1) Kalei Kailikini – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 55:47] 2) David DeCleene – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 59:57] 3) Amanda Hatcher – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:03:43] Page 3 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes 4) Kevin Hill – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:07:40] 5) Millicent Cummings – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:12:18] 6) Charles Flaherty – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:16:27] 7) Brenda Ford – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:20:33] 8) Theo Matthew – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:24:54] 9) Megan Isaac – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:27:38] DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION Chairperson Barbara DeFranco asked the commission if they had any questions for the testifiers. No questions at this time. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:31:01] **RECESS 11:18 A.M. TO 11:30 A.M.** [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:31:18] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco reconvened the meeting at 11:30 a.m. and stated that public testimony was closed. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:43:23] Commissioner Dean Au disclosed that he recently discovered a letter in the public comments (on page 374, covering testimony from July 29, 2024, to October 24, 2024) submitted by the Hawaii Regional Council of Carpenters, an organization he works for. He stated that he had no prior knowledge of the letter and emphasized that it would not influence his evaluation of the General Plan. He asked the Commission if there was any conflict and if he could continue. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco responded, acknowledging the disclosure and confirming there was no conflict, encouraging transparency and disclosure among the Commissioners. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:43:46] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco asked the commission if they had any questions for the staff, noting that Planning Director Zendo Kern was also available to provide assistance if needed. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:44:51] Commissioner Armando Rodriguez raised concerns about climate change, suggesting that the term might be controversial and proposing the use of a different word, like “pollution”, to gain broader support. He also expressed a desire for more specific dates to implement safety measures, such as addressing fire hazards in certain areas and volcanic risks. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco responded by advising the commissioner to ask specific questions during the appropriate discussion. Commissioner Rodriguez acknowledged this and agreed to wait for the discussion. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:45:25] Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa asked whether the request for an additional road in Waikoloa should be included in the South Kohala CDP (Community Development Plan) or the General Plan. Planning Director Zendo Kern responded that it could be addressed in both documents. He suggested that the South Kohala CDP could be amended to prioritize the road in its transportation section and also encouraged lobbying for the project to be included in the CIP (Capital Improvement Program) budget, as the county recognizes it as a clear need. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:46:32] Page 4 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Chairperson Barbara DeFranco expanded on the discussion, mentioning that the County Council, CDPs, and homeowner associations are involved in decisions regarding road planning, specifically for Waikoloa. Planning Director Zendo Kern explained that the Waikoloa area has a few potential road routes, with a temporary emergency access route already in place, which has been studied by a private developer. He emphasized that the issue now is not about where the road should go but about funding and who will build it. While the road's need and priority are clear, the challenge lies in securing funding and building it. He noted that the General Plan includes a transportation network with potential road alignments but that the biocultural or climate change sections, coming later, would also address these routes. Regarding the “elite corridor” for Kīlauea, Planning Director Zendo Kern confirmed it's in the General Plan as well, with known challenges, particularly cultural sites. He reiterated that while the plan outlines priorities and roadways, the focus now needs to be on securing funding through the CIP (Capital Improvement Program) budget. He also concluded that while the road routes are clear, funding and construction are still the key hurdles. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:47:33] Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III raised concerns about the funding for electric vehicle charging outlets in county parks, especially in relation to the 2045 objectives for zero-emission vehicles. He questioned where the funding would come from, given that funding typically comes from taxpayers or subsidies, and mentioned the role of HECO in providing electricity. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison responded that funding for the electric vehicle charging network is a significant challenge. She mentioned that the state is investing in charging networks along its roadways and working with the county to address service gaps, such as on Saddle Road. She also noted potential federal funding from the Department of Energy and that county funding could support smaller projects, like individual charging stations at community parks. Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III expressed appreciation for the response but reiterated the need for a holistic approach to green and zero-emission initiatives, highlighting the ongoing concern about finding funding for these projects, similar to road development. Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula intervened, reminding the group to stay focused during the questioning. Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III acknowledged this and returned to the question. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:51:07] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte inquired about the inclusion of fire mitigation and wildfire management in the general plan, specifically asking whether the Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization or similar groups reviewed the draft. Planning Director Zendo Kern confirmed that outreach was made to the Firewise organization and mitigation measures were discussed, but he could not confirm if the entire plan was reviewed. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison added that consultations with the Hawaii Wildfire Organization were conducted, focusing on creating fire wise communities and considering wildfire as a threat during land-use reviews. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte then asked about the estimated cost of implementing policies in the general plan, particularly regarding climate change and biocultural stewardship, and how the plan would be funded. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison explained that while funding is a challenge, most of the work in the plan involves changes in the process rather than large investments. She emphasized that funding decisions would align with the general plan's priorities, with infrastructure investments ensuring long-term resilience. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte further inquired about measuring success and progress. Planning Director Zendo Kern highlighted the importance of the implementation section of the plan, noting that success would be measured by tangible outcomes such as infrastructure projects, housing, and road Page 5 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes development. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison pointed out that each section of the plan has indicators for monitoring progress, such as increased native habitat coverage. Finally, Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte asked if relevant county departments had provided feedback on the draft. Planning Director Zendo Kern confirmed that multiple meetings with department heads and staff had been held to ensure buy-in and collaboration on the plan. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte also asked if any objectives had been omitted from the draft. Morrison explained that while no specific items were missing, some priorities may have been constrained by departmental resources. She emphasized that the plan offers guiding principles, leaving room for more detailed work in future actions, such as budgets and codes. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:54:23] Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III addressed concerns raised in public testimony about the use of “Agenda 21” terminology in the general plan. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison clarified that there is no reference to Agenda 21 in the plan. She explained that the plan focuses on sustainability efforts, such as reducing importation and increasing self-sufficiency on the island, which aligns with state and county initiatives. She also emphasized that the plan is about local actions and is not related to global or UN initiatives. Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III thanked Morrison for addressing the concern and ensuring it was on the record. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:05:59] Commissioner Dean Au raised a concern about the general plan's focus on aquifers, noting that while there is ample attention to surface water, watersheds, and wetlands, the term “aquifer” doesn't appear as much. He asked how the general plan addresses the protection and management of aquifers. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison responded, suggesting that commissioners use the digital copy of the plan to search for the term “aquifer”, which appears 17 times. She explained that the protection of aquifers, especially for drinking water, is addressed in the infrastructure chapter. Additionally, she emphasized that biocultural stewardship aims to manage watersheds and enhance native habitats to help replenish groundwater systems. She encouraged further review of these sections for detailed information. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:07:23] Commissioner Armando Rodriguez raised concerns from Hilo residents about not having enough opportunities to voice their opinions. He asked if there would be more chances for them to be heard in the future. Planning Director Zendo Kern responded, noting that there have been numerous meetings held across the island to gather input from different communities. He acknowledged that Hilo's Community Development Plan (CDP) is outdated but emphasized that efforts are being made to address Hilo's needs just as thoroughly as other areas with current CDPs. Planning Director Zendo Kern reassured that Hilo had not been overlooked and that work is being done to update the policies and objectives to ensure consistency with other regions. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:09:22] Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III asked about the county's consideration of desalination, noting the area's potential for it and the sustainability benefits of accessing seawater for drinking. He expressed surprise that more hasn't been done to explore this option, especially given the success of similar projects. Planning Director Zendo Kern acknowledged that discussions about desalination have occurred, particularly regarding a project in Kohala, but noted that the Department of Water Supply had not fully explored it yet. He mentioned that cost was one of the Page 6 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes factors considered in those discussions. Planning Director Zendo Kern agreed that further discussions about desalination should be integrated into future plans and that involving more people in these discussions now would be beneficial before implementation begins. Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III emphasized the importance of moving forward with green initiatives like desalination and suggested exploring funding options, such as tax credits, to support the project. Planning Director Zendo Kern agreed and highlighted that addressing desalination in upcoming planning sections would be important, as challenges would arise when moving forward with such projects. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:11:04] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte asked why the term “traditional ecological knowledge” was used instead of “indigenous ecological knowledge”, noting the importance of wording in this context. Interim Administrator Bethany Morrison explained that “traditional ecological knowledge” was chosen to encompass a broader range of traditions beyond just native Hawaiian practices, acknowledging that there are various cultural perspectives on resource management. She expressed openness to suggestions on the matter. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte suggested incorporating both “indigenous” and “traditional” ecological knowledge to honor the diverse cultures of Hawaii, while also recognizing and honoring the Native Hawaiian people as the first inhabitants. She also raised a question about integrating community values, particularly indigenous and Native Hawaiian values, in the planning process to ensure all cultures are respected. Planning Director Zendo Kern responded positively, acknowledging the opportunity to deepen this conversation and expressing eagerness for further discussion and integration of these ideas into future planning. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:13:31] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco inquired if the commission had any additional questions. There were no further questions. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:16:20] **LUNCH BREAK 12:00 P.M. TO 12:30 P.M.** [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:16:50] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco reconvened the meeting at 12:34 p.m. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:47:31] Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III left the meeting during lunch, but his absence was not officially recorded. Despite this, there was still a quorum to continue the meeting. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco confirmed that there was a motion on the floor and that the discussion was ongoing. She asked Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula for guidance on how to proceed if a motion to amend or add something needed to be made, requesting language for everyone to hear. Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula responded, clarifying that the current motion was to forward the general plan to the council for approval. She explained that the commission could now discuss the plan, share any comments, and propose amendments. She also mentioned that a confidential memo with sample language for amendments had been provided to the commission, offering the opportunity to discuss the plan and make changes to the motion. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:47:41] Commissioner Armando Rodriguez expressed concern about using the term “climate change” in the plan, as some people disagree with the concept. He suggested finding an alternative term to Page 7 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes make the plan more inclusive and bring the community together. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco agreed to discuss this and shared her view that “climate change” is a widely accepted term, referring to observable changes like rising sea levels. She noted that the term “climate change” is already widely used and that any changes would need careful consideration. Commissioner Dean Au proposed that, instead of changing the term throughout the entire document, the commission focus on specific sections where climate change is discussed. He suggested addressing any concerns or proposed changes later, in the relevant chapters. He also recommended commissioners write down their thoughts beforehand to ensure productive discussions. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco acknowledged Commissioner Rodriguez's concern and allowed for further discussion on the matter, encouraging all commissioners to consider alternative terms if they felt it was necessary. Commissioner Armando Rodriguez reiterated his desire for inclusivity and suggested changing the wording to foster unity within the community, even though he personally believes in climate change. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:48:56] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco announced that Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III had to leave and is no longer present. His departure occurred during lunch, but it hadn't been previously mentioned. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:53:55] Commissioner Armando Rodriguez expressed concern about the general plan's commitment to achieving zero emissions by 2045, stating that he would like to see more immediate commitments, particularly regarding safety issues like the Waikoloa fire risks and volcanic threats in South Kohala. He emphasized the importance of setting specific dates for action to avoid potential disasters similar to those in Maui. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco acknowledged Rodriguez's point, assuring that upcoming meetings would address these issues in more detail, including fire mitigation in relevant chapters. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:54:20] Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa shared her thoughts on climate change terminology, mentioning that she looked up alternative terms like “climate crisis” and “climate emergency” but felt these might cause more agitation than the term “climate change”. She emphasized the importance of making people feel comfortable with the language used and suggested that education on the issue could help. She also proposed possibly expanding the definition of climate change in the document's glossary. Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa indicated that she would take time over the next month to consider feedback and work on the language for any amendments, listening to staff and public testimony before making a final judgment. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco responded by stressing the importance of collaboration in the process, noting that the staff has been focused on finding common ground. He acknowledged that the current version of the bill or ordinance is a work in progress and will evolve based on feedback and collaboration. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:55:27] Commissioner Dean Au echoed Commissioner Noborikawa's approach, particularly regarding the issue of water, aquifers, and watersheds, noting that these topics would be addressed in other chapters. He emphasized the importance of being sensitive and careful with his proposed motions to ensure they align with the general plan and benefit everyone. Commissioner Dean Au expressed a commitment to being patient, taking time to consult with the county or Corporation Page 8 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Counsel if needed, to draft the best language. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco supported this approach, agreeing that sustainability and issues like salinization and desalinization are critical topics that will continue to be discussed in future meetings. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:57:38] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte raised concerns about inconsistencies in the language used, specifically mentioning terms like “play spaces” and “Hawaiian bicultural resource management”, as well as “traditional ecological knowledge”. She explained that her experience advising the Executive Office of the President and President Biden's Council on Environmental Quality had led her to focus on the need for clear and consistent application of these terms. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte suggested that providing definitions and using terms consistently would help clarify their meaning for the public. She expressed her intent to do further research and offer specific recommendations for improving the language. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:58:52] Chair Barbara DeFranco expressed appreciation and raised concerns about funding for wastewater systems, emphasizing its importance for implementation. She mentioned her interest in crafting a plan to address the issue and asked if funding had been secured for Hilo’s wastewater system repairs. Planning Director Zendo Kern responded that significant funding had been allocated for rebuilding the treatment facility, though he was unsure if it was fully funded. He confirmed that construction was already underway. Chair Barbara DeFranco acknowledged this update and thanked him. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:00:34] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte advocated for translating the General Plan into both of Hawai‘i’s official languages, English and Hawaiian. She noted that other state departments already provide bilingual documents and asked for commissioners' thoughts on the idea. Chair Barbara DeFranco sought clarification on whether the request was solely for Hawaiian or other languages as well. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte stated she supports all languages used in Hawai‘i but wanted to start with an official language. Planning Director Zendo Kern expressed openness to the idea but noted that translation resources would need to be identified. While written translation into Hawaiian seemed feasible, presenting the plan in both languages would be more challenging due to the need for fluent speakers. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte suggested partnering with the University of Hawai‘i at Hilo, which has the expertise and resources to support the translation effort. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:01:45] Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa supported Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte’s suggestion to translate the General Plan into Hawaiian once it is fully adopted. She emphasized that, as an official state language, Hawaiian should be more widely available and noted that some places already provide bilingual materials. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:04:33] Commissioner Rodriguez emphasized the need for public buildings in Hawai‘i to better reflect the state's culture and identity. He noted that mainland architects are often hired, resulting in designs that do not represent Hawai‘i’s beauty and heritage. Comparing it to places like Arizona and New Mexico, where architecture reflects local identity, he urged for greater promotion of Page 9 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Hawaiian architectural styles, especially given the state's reliance on tourism. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:05:08] Chair Barbara DeFranco acknowledged the discussion on Hawaiian architecture but noted that Hawai‘i has a diverse culture and many talented Hawaiian architects. She emphasized that design can take many forms and shouldn’t be narrowly defined, as Hawaiian architects may create both traditional and modern designs. She viewed the topic as broad and complex. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:06:00] Commissioner Dean Au voiced support for Vice Chair Paishon-Duarte’s proposal to include the Hawaiian language in the General Plan, emphasizing Hawaii’s uniqueness. Regarding Commissioner Rodriguez’s comments on Hawaiian architecture, Commissioner Dean Au noted that many large developers, particularly hotels, already incorporate Hawaiian design elements, such as Koa wood. He felt that architectural considerations are already addressed and may not need to be included in the General Plan. He then indicated his willingness to discuss another topic if there were no further comments on these issues. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:06:54] Commissioner Dean Au requested input from Planning Staff Bethany Morrison, her staff, and Planning Director Zendo Kern regarding the “Natural Beauty Sites” section of the General Plan (pages 49-54). He noted that some listed sites are already state or county parks, while others are in remote locations. He questioned the pros and cons of including certain locations in the plan, using the example of the proposed secondary road to Waikoloa, where testifiers suggested that including it in the General Plan could expedite its development. Similarly, he wondered whether adding a site to the list could lead to future restrictions, such as designating it as a historical site, even if it currently has no official protection. Commissioner Dean Au also raised concerns about potential unintended consequences, such as limiting access to traditional activities like picking opihi. He sought clarification on how listing a site might impact land use and future decision- making. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:08:00] Chair Barbara DeFranco informed the commission that Commissioner Rodriguez had left the meeting but confirmed that they still had a quorum. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:09:40] Planning Staff Bethany Morrison explained that the “Natural Beauty Sites” listed in the General Plan originally came from the 2005 plan but were omitted in the 2019 draft due to concerns about specificity. However, strong public feedback led to their reinstatement. A 2016 Scenic Resources Study helped map these sites more clearly using GIS technology. She clarified that the list is not regulatory but serves as a guide for land use decisions, encouraging consideration of potential impacts on scenic areas. Commissioner Dean Au acknowledged this but raised a hypothetical concern about whether a future bill could use the list to restrict development. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison reassured him that the General Plan provides guidance rather than enforceable restrictions. Planning Director Zendo Kern added that these sites have been in the plan for nearly 20 years without causing significant issues. He noted that their inclusion helps ensure factors like view plane impacts are considered during rezoning or development projects. Commissioner Dean Au then asked if any sites had been added or removed based on public testimony. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison confirmed that the 2016 study contributed new sites, Page 10 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes including Fisher 8 from the 2018 eruption in Leilani Estates. Planning Director Zendo Kern provided an example, explaining that if a cell tower application is proposed in a natural beauty site, developers must conduct a view plane analysis to minimize visual impact. Commissioner Dean Au appreciated this response, noting that while such requirements may increase costs for developers, they ultimately benefit the community. He emphasized the importance of balancing costs while ensuring responsible decision-making for taxpayers. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:09:53] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte asked if the Open Space Commission and Cultural Resources Commission had reviewed the Natural Beauty Sites section when it was reinserted into the General Plan. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison confirmed that while both commissions were consulted during the process, it was unclear if they reviewed that specific table. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte suggested ensuring their input and tracked it as a request. She then inquired whether the General Plan called for the transfer of county lands to state, federal, or private entities, referencing concerns raised in public testimony. Planning Director Zendo Kern clarified that there was no intent to transfer or sell county land but rather to encourage collaborative land use, such as agricultural parks. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison added that land acquisition prioritization follows a process that requires a willing landowner and proper management planning. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte also asked whether the military had been consulted regarding biocultural stewardship and climate change collaboration. Planning Director Zendo Kern stated he was unsure but would verify if any outreach had occurred. Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa supported inviting military representatives to participate in discussions, while Commissioner Dean Au advised proceeding cautiously, noting that federal guidelines supersede county and state decisions. He supported the idea but preferred seeking legal counsel before moving forward. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte explained that the plan promotes partnerships, and there are existing agreements between the U.S. Army and the County of Hawai‘i on shared goals, such as environmental stewardship. Chair Barbara DeFranco suggested looking into how O‘ahu’s county government engages with the military in its General Plan. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte thanked the commissioners for the discussion and stated she would formally propose this topic in a future recommendation. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:15:35] Commissioner Dean Au asked about the differences between the climate change sections in the 2005 General Plan and the current draft, noting that climate change perspectives have evolved significantly over time. Planning Department Staff Bethany Morrison clarified that the 2005 plan lacked discussions on climate change and sustainability, and the updates have incorporated significant feedback, aligning with state law and county planning efforts. She emphasized that climate change is a long-term issue that requires forward-thinking strategies. Commissioner Dean Au then asked how the General Plan influences decisions on sustainable development, particularly for LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design)-certified projects. Planning Director Zendo Kern explained that while LEED certification is a developer's choice, the Planning Department considers factors like sea level rise exposure and sustainable water usage. He highlighted that the county is prioritizing sustainability in government operations first, such as energy-efficient fleets and electricity usage. He also noted that the plan encourages sustainable design, particularly for large-scale developments, with a focus on shoreline and high- risk areas. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:22:36] Page 11 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Action: Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte moved to amend the main motion to insert the words “water stewardship, fire mitigation, and management” after the words “land use” on page 71, Policy 8.5. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:28:19] Commissioner Dean Au seconded the motion but asked that the maker of the motion take out the word “management” from “wildfire mitigation and management”. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:30:00] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte moved to amend her motion to remove the words “and management” so that Policy 8.5, on page 71 will read: “Climate change adaptation strategies shall be considered in County budgetary, land use, water stewardship, fire mitigation, and other decision-making processes”. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:30:54] Commissioner Dean Au seconded the motion. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:31:22] The motion carried with four ayes (Paishon-Duarte, Au, Noborikawa, and DeFranco) with three absent and excused (Kanuha, Rodriguez, Dela Cruz). [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:32:10] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte raised a discussion about prioritizing Hawai‘i Island generated products in county purchasing policies. She referred to page 70, specifically section 7C, and questioned whether the commission had the authority to emphasize local procurement. She sought input on how to ensure county purchases align with local economic goals. Chair Barbara DeFranco asked for clarification on the placement of the proposal, and Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte reiterated her focus on prioritizing locally produced goods to support Hawai‘i businesses. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:34:07] Commissioner Dean Au expressed support for incorporating local purchasing language under Objective 7. He suggested using the word “preferred” to ensure that county purchasers prioritize local, low-emission products—such as choosing locally sourced goods over those from out of state. Commissioner Dean Au indicated a willingness to discuss the wording further and support a motion emphasizing preference for Hawai‘i-made products. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:36:11] Chair Barbara DeFranco raised a legal question about procurement, prompting Vice Chair Mahina Paishon- Duarte to explore the possibility of designating a “preferred provider” status for local products. Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula suggested inviting the Finance Department to clarify how such a preference could fit within existing procurement policies. Planning Director Zendo Kern agreed to arrange this. Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa supported the idea, emphasizing its alignment with sustainability and self-sufficiency goals. Chair Barbara DeFranco also expressed agreement and confirmed they would invite a Finance representative for further discussion. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:37:17] Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa raised a concern about potential confusion regarding Objective 7, which aims to reduce the County’s carbon footprint to net zero by 2045. She noted that some residents misunderstood “County” to mean all residents rather than the County government itself. To clarify, she proposed rewording it to explicitly state “Hawai‘i County government.” Chair Barbara DeFranco and Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte supported the need for clarification. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison explained that while the objective primarily applies to County government operations, some policies also aim to incentivize emissions reductions among developers and the broader community. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison suggested either refining the language or restructuring the objective to clearly distinguish government responsibilities from community incentives. Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa agreed that separating the objectives could be a good compromise. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:39:49] Page 12 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte asked Planning Staff Bethany Morrison how communities experiencing disproportionate climate change impacts are prioritized under Objective 6.3. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison explained that prioritization is addressed in the specific actions section, focusing on funding opportunities and transparency. She noted that historically marginalized communities, such as low- to moderate-income areas like Keaukaha, are prioritized for resilience investments. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte sought clarification on whether factors beyond socioeconomic status, such as vulnerability to natural disasters, are considered. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison responded that the goal is to ensure climate resilience efforts are equitable, emphasizing support for historically disadvantaged communities. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte expressed full support for this approach. Separately, Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula asked Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa if she had specific language to propose regarding Objective 7, but Noborikawa declined at that time. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:44:42] Action: Commissioner Dean Au moved to amend the main motion to insert the word “wildfires” between “tsunamis,” and “and volcanic activity” on page 64, Table 12, under Natural Disasters & Climate Vulnerability, the first bullet so that it will read: “Susceptibility to natural disasters such as hurricanes, tsunamis, wildfires, and volcanic activity can disrupt energy infrastructure and impede mitigation efforts. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:49:48] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte seconded the motion. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:50:22]. The motion carried with four ayes (Au, Paishon-Duarte, Noborikawa, and DeFranco) and three excused (Kanuha, Rodriguez, Dela Cruz). Commissioner Dean Au initiated a discussion on strengthening renewable energy language in the General Plan, emphasizing Hawai‘i’s goal of achieving 100% renewable energy by 2045. He noted that while the state's electricity utility is making progress, the County should do more to support the transition and reduce reliance on oil. Commissioner Dean Au suggested exploring ways to improve infrastructure, such as expanding charging stations for electric vehicles, despite their high cost. He urged commissioners to consider language changes in the upcoming meetings to reinforce renewable energy commitments. Chair Barbara DeFranco expressed support for the idea, and Planning Staff Bethany Morrison directed the commissioners to page 144 of the draft plan, which covers electricity and renewable energy, as a starting point for potential revisions. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:51:45] Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte initiated a discussion on incorporating Workforce Development into the plan, emphasizing its connection to biocultural stewardship and climate change actions. Planning Director Zendo Kern supported the idea but suggested integrating it into the “Thriving Diversified Regenerative Economy” section to maintain continuity and avoid excessive redundancy. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte agreed, exploring the possibility of restating Action 43.F (page 197), which focuses on partnerships for education and Workforce Development, in multiple sections. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison highlighted the importance of including Workforce Development within sustainability discussions. Planning Director Zendo Kern suggested placing references in both the economic section and the narrative to ensure clarity without excessive repetition. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte reaffirmed her commitment to Workforce Development as a crucial factor in keeping local youth (Keiki) in the community. After further discussion, she decided to draft a proposal for the next meeting, Page 13 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes incorporating the feedback from the commissioners and staff. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 3:54:12] Planning Director Zendo Kern suggested adding Workforce Development to the opportunities table in the climate mitigation section (page 66) as a way to highlight job creation and connect it to the economic section. Chair Barbara DeFranco asked for clarification on the location, and Planning Director Zendo Kern explained that each section includes challenges and opportunities, making the table a natural place to introduce the concept before linking it to economic development. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 04:01:28] Commissioner Dean Au raised concerns about the widespread issue of albizia trees in Hilo and Puna, noting their danger to infrastructure and property, especially during hurricanes like Iselle. While the general plan briefly mentions albizia trees twice, he suggested incorporating broader guidance on removing dangerous trees. Planning Director Zendo Kern acknowledged the issue and mentioned his past efforts in passing a “Dangerous Flora and Fauna” bill, which allows the county to remove hazardous trees and charge landowners for the costs. However, he noted that the law is underutilized and not well-known. Planning Staff Bethany Morrison pointed out that invasive species are addressed in the biocultural stewardship section but suggested also checking the public safety section for relevant policies. Commissioner Dean Au emphasized the challenges of dealing with absentee landowners who may be unaware or unresponsive to tree hazards on their properties. He sought clearer protection for residents dealing with such risks. Planning Director Zendo Kern recommended looking into the existing law for better enforcement, while Planning Staff Bethany Morrison guided Commissioner Dean Au to look at relevant sections of the plan for further reference. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED 04:02:47] **RECESS 1:59 P.M. TO 2:13 P.M.** [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 04:14:01] Chairperson Barbara DeFranco reconvened the meeting at 2:13 p.m. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 04:25:55] Action: Commissioner Dean Au motioned to move the Leeward Planning Commission Special Meeting to December 19, 2024, at 5:00 p.m. Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa seconded the motion. [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED [04:26:58]. A voice vote was taken and the motion carried with four ayes (Au, Paishon-Duarte, Noborikawa, and DeFranco) and three excused (Kanuha, Rodriguez, Dela Cruz). [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED [04:27:11]. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte motion to adjourn meeting. Commissioner Dean Au seconded the motion. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 04:27:38] A voice vote was taken and the motion carried with four ayes (Au, Paishon-Duarte, Noborikawa, and DeFranco) and three excused (Kanuha, Rodriguez, Dela Cruz). [YOUTUBE TIMESTAMPED [04:27:45]. Chair Barbara DeFranco adjourned the meeting at 2:14 p.m. Page 14 of 14 Leeward Planning Commission November 22, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes Respectfully submitted, Kelsie Chang Secretary ATTEST: Dean Au, Chairperson Leeward Planning Commission ' . $ # ) " — + - A B v A ? A D @ C w D G ˜ Kelsie Chang Dean Au (Apr 23, 2025 17:09 HST)