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Leeward Planning Commission
December 19, 2024, General Plan Special Meeting Minutes
PLANNING COMMISSION
GENERAL PLAN SPECIAL MEETING
COUNTY OF HAWAI‘I
MINUTES
DECEMBER 19, 2024
A video recording is made part of these minutes, which can be viewed on the YouTube County of
Hawai‘i Planning Department channel at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZBjkt3sF0.
Timestamps are provided for reference in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 92, Hawai‘i
Revised Statutes. In the event the video recording becomes unavailable at the above-mentioned
URL address, the public can contact the Planning Department for assistance.
The Leeward Planning Commission met in regular session on Thursday, December 19, 2024, at
5:00 p.m. in the West Hawai‘i Civic Center, Council Chambers, Building A, 74-5044 Ane
Keohokālole Highway, Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i, with Chairperson Barbara DeFranco presiding.
This meeting was streamed live on YouTube.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte, Commissioner Dean Au,
Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III, Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa,
Commissioner Armando Rodriguez, and Barbara DeFranco (Chairperson).
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT AND EXCUSED: Commissioner Michael Dela Cruz
ALSO PRESENT: Suzanna Tiapula, Esq. (Deputy Corporation Counsel to the Commission) Jean
Campbell, Esq. (Deputy Corporation Counsel to the Planning Department), Jeffrey Darrow
(Acting Planning Director), Michelle Ahn (Acting Deputy Director) and Planning Department
staff.
Approximately nineteen members of the public were present in the audience.
A quorum was present. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco called the meeting to order at 5:25 p.m.
and introduced the Commissioners. Staff introductions were made. [SEE YOUTUBE
TIMESTAMP 20:14]
Chairperson Barbara DeFranco began by asking each Commissioner to confirm they had
reviewed all materials related to the agenda items for today's meeting. The Commissioners
confirmed they had. She then made some housekeeping announcements, requesting attendees
turn off their cell phones and put them on silent. She pointed out the location of the public
restrooms and drinking fountain, both accessible through the door on the right. For anyone
wishing to testify in person, Chairperson Barbara DeFranco asked them to fill out the yellow
signup forms at the staff table and submit any written testimony not previously sent. [SEE
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 21:41]
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INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW
Chairperson Barbara DeFranco explained that the purpose of today's meeting is to allow public
comment on the County of Hawai‘i's General Plan 2045 final draft and for the Commission to
review and provide recommendations to the County Council. The Commission will hold
meetings to review the plan until February 2025, with a final recommendation due by March 24,
2025. Each meeting will include a staff presentation, public testimony, and Commission
discussion. Commissioners can make changes to the draft until the last meeting, when they will
vote on the final recommendation. The draft plan can be accessed on the Planning Commission
website. Chairperson Barbara DeFranco introduced the staff presentation, starting with the
Planning Director, and asked the Commissioners to note any questions they want to ask the
Director, as questions would be reserved until after hearing public testimony. [SEE YOUTUBE
TIMESTAMP 22:47]
STAFF PRESENTATION
At 5:29 p.m., Stephanie Letro from the Finance Department addressed questions from the
commissioners during the previous meeting. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 25:16]
Stephanie Letro from the Finance Department addressed a question raised by Vice Chair Mahina
Paishon-Duarte regarding purchasing and vendors, particularly in the context of supporting local
agriculture and the economy. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte asked if there were ways the
Planning Commission could require or encourage applicants to source products from local,
sustainable vendors, especially for agricultural uses. Stephanie Letro explained that the state has
a process for giving preference to Hawaii products through its procurement system. Vendors can
apply to have their products listed as Hawaii-made, and the state manages a list of approved
items. When solicitations are issued, they include language specifying preference for Hawaii
products, though vendors must meet certain criteria, including being the lowest bidder when
factoring in preferences outlined in the law. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte followed up,
asking if this process could be streamlined or incorporated into the General Plan update.
Stephanie outlined how the procurement process works, emphasizing that departments would
specify which products qualify, and vendors could apply through the state’s process. She also
noted that there is support for vendors to help them through this. Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-
Duarte expressed interest in incorporating this approach into the General Plan update,
particularly in discussions around circular economies. Stephanie provided additional resources
for reference on the legal framework behind the process. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 25:49]
Commissioner Dean Au questioned how a list of 23 vendors is organized and how materials are
classified when there is no vendor listed in a specific category. He wondered if, in such cases,
bidders could use any materials. Stephanie Letro clarified that vendors classify their own
products into categories such as juice, meat, foam products, etc. There isn’t a fixed state
classification system, but vendors self-identify the category for their products. Commissioner
Dean Au then asked about the purpose of the preference list, especially if there's no clear criteria.
Stephanie explained that the list is used when there are multiple bids. If a higher bidder offers a
Hawaii-preferred product (from the list), the state can apply a percentage discount (10-15%) to
their bid. If, after the discount, the higher bidder’s price is lower than the lowest bid, the higher
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bidder wins the contract. Commissioner Dean Au noted that he understand the process better
after the explanation, particularly from a materials perspective. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP
33:04]
Planning Staff April Surprenant requested to respond to a policy while Ms. Letro was online,
referring to page 68 of the general plan. She pointed out that Policy 6.1 prioritizes and supports
community-based organizations, businesses, and programs through County Purchasing and
procurement policies. After briefly explaining this, Chair Barbara DeFranco thanked her for the
information and for her time. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 36:33]
Planning Staff April Surprenant and Janice Hata gave the presentation. [SEE YOUTUBE
TIMESTAMP 37:48]
STATEMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS
At 6:18 p.m. the Commission took up this item with approximately fifteen members of the
audience in the Council Chambers. Chair Barbara DeFranco instructed the testifiers to turn on
the microphone, raise their right hand, and swear to tell the truth. She also clarified that each
testifier will have three minutes, with a 30-second warning, and requested that they state their
name and town before beginning their testimony. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:13:43]
Twelve individuals provided testimony in-person at 6:19 p.m.:
1) Ru Carley – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:15:01]
2) Leilani Pulmano – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:18:33]
3) Shaylene Fahey – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:20:38]
4) Shannon Fisher – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:23:54]
5) Josephine Keliiplo – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:27:50]
6) John Pelletier – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:30:31]
7) Michelle Melendez – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:33:13]
8) Martha Stephens – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:37:02]
9) Paul Andrade – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:40:32]
10) Jesse Waltjen – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:41:59]
11) Cindy Andrade – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:43:13]
12) Robert Gay – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:46:14]
*RECESS 6:53 p.m. to 7:03 p.m.* [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 01:48:54]
Commissioner Clement “CJ” Kanuha III left during the recess, but this was not recorded.
Ten individuals provided testimony on zoom at 7:04 p.m.:
1) Janice Palma-Glennie [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:00:46]
2) Amanda Hatcher – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:04:43]
3) Roger Christie – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:09:33]
4) Kevin Hill – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:13:42]
5) Megan Issac – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:17:55]
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Chair Barbara DeFranco interrupted, asking Megan Issac to be respectful and avoid making
certain comments about the Planning Department, warning that she would be cut off if she
continued. Megan responded that she was presenting facts, but the Chair declined to take her
testimony. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:18:25]
6) Davina Mar – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:20:58]
7) Juhl Rayne – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:24:30]
8) Monique Perreira – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:28:15]
9) Elsa Dedman – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:30:19]
10) Chuck Flaherty – [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:31:57]
Statements from the public concluded at 7:40 p.m. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:36:37]
DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION
Chairperson Barbara DeFranco allowed the Planning Department time to provide comments
based on the public testimony that was heard. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:36:40]
Planning Staff April Surprenant addressed several topics based on public testimony, including
food security, water catchments, and cluster development. She highlighted that the General Plan
emphasizes self-sustainability and diverse agriculture, which aligns with state regulations,
specifically HRS 205. She noted that food security is addressed both in the agriculture and
economic development sections of the plan. Regarding water catchments, she explained that the
2005 General Plan, which still influences current policies, includes guidelines from the
Department of Health and has long supported water safety without being overly restrictive. On
cluster development, she clarified that it is an option for landowners in certain conditions, like
flood-prone areas or areas with native forests, and is not mandated. [SEE YOUTUBE
TIMESTAMP 02:37:28]
Acting Planning Director Jeffrey Darrow suggests starting the discussion at a high level and
working down to specific issues. He emphasizes that many people who spoke oppose the plan
and want it reconsidered, so it's important to explain the lengthy process involved, including past
adjustments made in response to public feedback. He also wants to address concerns about
climate change and how resources are being sourced in the plan. Additionally, he notes the
importance of explaining the efforts made to inform the public about the process, including
various communication channels. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:40:40]
Planning Staff April Surprenant outlined the extensive public outreach efforts that have been
made throughout the planning process. These include public meetings, action committee
meetings, community group meetings, and outreach to various groups such as economic
development organizations and DHHL communities. They’ve used a variety of channels to
promote these meetings, including newspapers, radio stations, social media, and email list serves.
While acknowledging that not everyone may be notified at the same time, April Surprenant
emphasized the importance of word-of-mouth and social media sharing in spreading the
message. She also touched on how climate change has been integrated into the general plan,
referencing a 2012 state law requiring counties to address climate change in land use policies and
capital improvements. Additionally, the county's 2021-2022 Integrated Climate Action Plan was
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adopted to complement this effort. Regarding the general plan's timeline, April Surprenant
explained that the process was supposed to finish in 2018 but was delayed due to unforeseen
events like the eruption and Hurricane Lane. New administrations and ongoing public
engagement have further impacted the timeline. However, the county council has pressured the
team to deliver the plan, and now it will proceed to the council for final decisions. April
Surprenant also clarified the various public meeting formats used during the planning process.
These included early “charettes” for idea generation, and later open houses and workshops where
the public could interact with experts on specific topics like water and infrastructure. Despite
varied preferences on meeting formats, she emphasized that multiple opportunities for public
input were provided throughout the process. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:42:32]
In the discussion, Acting Planning Director Darrow thanked April Surprenant for her responses
and requested that she provide a link or information on how people can sign up for notifications
about future meetings and access resources related to the general plan. She responded that she
would do so, showing how to sign up for notifications via the planning department's website. She
then demonstrated where to find the “Stay Informed” section for signing up for emails and
emphasized that the page contains valuable resources, including reports and public comments.
Acting Planning Director Darrow highlighted that the page offers a wealth of information for
reference. April Surprenant also mentioned that the general plan includes policies aimed at
streamlining building codes and regulations, with a focus on making housing construction more
affordable. She clarified that the county has no control over state land conservation areas as they
are already designated for conservation. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:51:38]
Chairperson Barbara DeFranco asked if there were any other questions before moving on. [SEE
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:55:13]
Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa requested that at the next meeting, or during an
appropriate section, the missing standards from the 2040 plan and the issue of public access and
trails, as discussed by Chuck Flaherty, be addressed. She asked for these points to be covered at a
later time, as the meeting was running late. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:55:20]
Commissioner Dean Au asked about the potential outcome if the current general plan is rejected,
specifically if the 2005 version would continue to be used. Planning Staff April Surprenant
clarified that the 2005 General Plan is still in effect and would remain so if the new plan isn't
adopted. She explained that many policies in the new plan are based on the 2005 version. If the
new plan is rejected, future steps would depend on the County Council's direction, and the 2005
plan would still be used, even though it is now 20 years old. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP
02:55:55]
Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte highlighted that at the November meeting, she and a few
other Commissioners asked planning staff to explore ways to enhance public outreach, including
potentially using County resources. She mentioned that Commissioner Kanuha had suggested
adding more road signs in prominent areas to inform the public about the General Plan meetings.
Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte requested that at the January meeting, planning staff provide
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suggestions on how to increase outreach and encourage more public involvement. Chair Barbara
DeFranco and April Surprenant discussed the difference between road closure signs, which are
typically handled by Civil Defense, and the outreach signs for public meetings. Vice Chair
Paishon-Duarte emphasized the need to work with other County departments to find more
effective ways to engage the public, acknowledging the resources already invested but noting the
public's request for more. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 02:58:45]
Acting Planning Director Jeffrey Darrow discussed the new Administration's active use of social
media, noting it could help with public outreach for meetings. He suggested reaching out to the
Administration's social media team to assist in promoting meetings for a wider audience. He also
addressed Commissioner Noborikawa's question about the general plan's standards, mentioning
that there are 115 standards included in the plan, which can be accessed and searched in a
downloadable PDF on the website. Additionally, he responded to concerns about public access to
historic trails, explaining that the plan includes objectives, goals, and policies in sections such as
“active living corridors and public access” to address this issue. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP
03:00:52]
Vice Chair Mahina Paishon-Duarte requested that for the next meeting, someone with expertise
be asked to explain how the general plan addresses public land trust issues related to Native
Hawaiians. She emphasized the importance of clearly highlighting these areas so that members
of the Native Hawaiian community can easily understand how the plan meets their concerns.
Deputy Corporation Counsel Suzanna Tiapula confirmed that the request was about the public
land trust for Native Hawaiians. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:03:05]
Chair Barbara DeFranco asked which section the Department planned to focus on at the next
meeting. Planning Staff April Surprenant responded that the next meeting would be an all-day
session. She mentioned that they could continue discussing land use if desired, but if the group
was ready to move on, they would begin with transportation and other infrastructure sections of
the plan. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:03:59]
Chair Barbara DeFranco asked if there were any comments or questions from the
Commissioners. Commissioner Dean Au responded by expressing frustration, saying he felt
unappreciated by the public despite volunteering his time as a commissioner. He shared that he
finds it more helpful when testifiers provide constructive suggestions rather than simply
criticizing him. He emphasized that he is committed to serving his community and working on
behalf of the Big Island but feels overwhelmed at times and could use more support from both
fellow Commissioners and the public. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:04:29] Chair Barbara
DeFranco expressed appreciation for Commissioner Dean Au's comments, saying she feels
similarly when feeling attacked. She emphasized that constructive feedback is important for
improving the community, County, and families. DeFranco reiterated the importance of mutual
respect, both among the Commissioners and from the public, stressing that while they value
public input, it should be given in a way that respects the process they are working within. [SEE
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:06:09]
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Commissioner Armando Rodrigues suggested that the group was too tired to make decisions
effectively and recommended continuing the meeting to avoid making irrational choices. Chair
Barbara DeFranco agreed, noting that they were nearing the end of the meeting. She then
confirmed that the Commissioners would gather their thoughts and come together for another
public meeting on January 16th. Chair Barbara DeFranco expressed appreciation for everyone's
time and the effort of those who traveled from Hilo to attend, urging everyone to drive safely.
[SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:06:56]
Chair Barbara DeFranco asked if there were any other announcements. [SEE YOUTUBE
TIMESTAMP 03:08:23]
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Planning Staff Maija Jackson announced that the regular meeting on January 16th is cancelled
due to a lack of items on the agenda. However, the General Plan meeting is scheduled to start at
9:30 a.m. on January 16th and was initially set to end at 1:30 p.m. to allow for the regular
meeting. She suggested that the Commission could extend the General Plan meeting to a full day
if desired. Chair Barbara DeFranco agreed that a full-day meeting would be beneficial and
confirmed with the rest of the Commissioners, who expressed support for the idea. [SEE
YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP 03:08:56]
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Barbara DeFranco asked for a motion to continue the discussion of the general plan.
Commissioner Dean Au moved to continue the discussions to the January 16, 2025, Leeward
Planning Commission Special meeting, with Commissioner Donna “Kinuko” Noborikawa
seconding the motion. A voice vote was taken with no further discussion, and the motion passed
with all in favor, two Commissioners absent and excused. [SEE YOUTUBE TIMESTAMP
03:09:45]
Chairperson Barbara DeFranco adjourned the meeting at 8:14 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kelsie Chang
Secretary
ATTEST:
Dean Au, Chairperson
Leeward Planning Commission
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Nelsie Fhang
Dean Au (Apr 23, 2025 17:08 HST)