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REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
J U N E 26, 2025
WEST HAWAI`I CIVIC CENTER, COUNCIL CHAMBERS, BUILDING A
74-5044 ANE KEOHOKALOLE HWY., KAILUA-KONA, HI
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Kosaki called the meeting to order at 9.00 a.m.
Present: Gerald Kosaki, Chair
Steven Hirakami, Vice Chair
Brian Cushnie, Commissioner
Les Hanano, Commissioner
Shon Magsalin, Commissioner
Wesley Mattos, Commissioner
Rick Porter, Commissioner
Carlene Wolf, Commissioner
Absent: Wayne Perrin Jr., Commissioner
A quorum was present.
Also present: Daniel Volpe, Deputy Fire Chief
Sinclair Salas-Ferguson, Deputy Corporation Counsel
Charisse Correa, Secretary
PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS
Police Commission Chair Rick Robinson and Vice Chair John Bertsch addressed the
Fire Commission regarding the shared secretarial position. They provided historical
context, explaining the role was "loaned" from the Police Commission as a temporary
measure 12-15 years ago, but has since become permanent, with the Police
Department funding the entire salary and office space. The Police Commission's
workload has increased significantly, creating an "undue hardship" on the secretary and
raising concerns about potential burnout.
Several solutions were proposed by commissioners, including drafting a joint letter with
the Police Commission, requesting an assistant to support the current secretary, and
allocating the Fire Commission's budget for its own secretarial support, possibly
including a student assistant. Bertsch highlighted that the Fire Commission has the
authority under the County Charter to appoint its own staff.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chair Kosaki asked if there were any comments or amendments to the minutes; there
were none. The regular session minutes from the May 29, 2025, meeting were
approved as drafted.
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FIRE CHIEF'S REPORT
Deputy Chief Volpe highlighted items from the Fire Chief's Report, in the Fire Chief's
absence. A detailed report is on file.
• Fiscal & Budget: The department is on track with spending as the fiscal year nears
its end. Updates were provided on various grant-funded projects, including the
delivery of new brush trucks and the installation of a new lifeguard tower at Kohaniki,
which was blessed and is now in service. The Leleiwi tower is expected in 2026.
• Human Resources: The HR Program Specialist position has been filled. The
department has successfully transitioned to a six-month assessment period for
internal promotions to improve predictability for members. Numerous recruitment
and promotion processes are underway, including a firefighter recruit class expected
to start in August.
• Operations & Training: Deputy Chief Volpe reported on Battalion 1 and 2 responses,
and shared highlights for Hazmat, Ocean Safety, Rescue, Emergency Medical
Services, the Training Branch, Volunteer Section, Fire Prevention Section, Auxiliary
Services, Information Technology, and the Safety Specialist. He highlighted the
"Calm the Chaos" command and control training program as a significant initiative
aimed at improving operational effectiveness and firefighter safety. The department
also conducted "Nozzle Forward" training, which focused on core engine company
operations. Additionally, it was announced that Ocean Safety will become a
standalone division.
• Facilities: Dispatchers have been moved to the joint communication center, and the
Prevention Office has been moved to that vacant space. Personnel from the Central
Fire Station have relocated to the temporary building, while Central undergoes
repairs.
• Recognition & Retirements: HFD held two Spring 2025 Promotional Ceremonies in
May, one in Kona and one in Hilo. The department received a prestigious
Community Partnership Award at the Pentagon for its outstanding collaboration with
the Pohakuloa Training Area (PTA). Firefighter Wilson was honored with the Haweo
Award for May for his actions during a motor vehicle accident response. Three
members of the department retired at the end of May.
Commissioner Wolf inquired about volunteer meetings. Volunteer commander
Bertsch explained that the meetings are held quarterly without a fixed calendar. The
next meeting is scheduled for Saturday, July 26th, at Station 8-A in Honoka`a.
Meetings begin around 9.00 a.m. with executive leadership discussions or training
for captains, followed by the main meeting at 10.00 a.m. The agenda includes
administering the oath of office to recruits and presenting service and retirement
certificates. The gathering concludes with food and conversation. "Save the Date"
notices are sent to the commission secretary for distribution to all commissioners.
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Vice Chair Hirakami inquired about dispatch vacancies, and there was discussion on
current vacancies and ongoing recruitment efforts.
Commissioner Cushnie previously requested Chief Todd include updates about the
Aviation Division in future Chief's Reports, and it might've been overlooked. He
asked if it could be included in the reports moving forward.
Commissioner Mattos inquired about the status of the rescue boat bid. Deputy Chief
Volpe confirmed the project went out to bid, a vendor was selected, funding was
secured, and the process is moving forward. Mattos noted this has been a concern
for over four years. He also requested updates on the volunteer program, sharing
his own experience as a former volunteer. He asked whether volunteers are
considered county employees. Deputy Chief Volpe clarified they are not. Mattos
expressed concerns about liability, CDL licensing, drug testing, and grooming
standards. Volpe explained that volunteers go through the same driver training as
career personnel, which meets required standards. However, unlike career staff,
volunteers are not subject to the same grooming and drug testing policies due to
union agreements. Regarding liability, Volpe stated that volunteers are covered if
injured while performing their duties, as their actions are considered part of their
service.
Volunteer commander Bertsch explained that the volunteer division is established
and mandated by the Charter, which also outlines the issues currently being
addressed. He responded to concerns about driving and grooming standards, noting
that volunteers are not permitted to use SCBAs (self-contained breathing apparatus.
He noted that a previous chief had indicated that grooming standards for volunteers
could be adjusted, allowing for beards and mustaches. Bertsch emphasized that
volunteers are held to high standards and are conscientious in their duties. He
acknowledged that funding is a primary challenge, which they continually work to
address. He also provided historical context, explaining that volunteers were issued
SCBAs in the past.
Chair Kosaki inquired about the Leleiwi lifeguard tower, noting that the previous
structure was deemed unsafe. There was also discussion on applying for or
transferring into the Fire Communications Captain position, WSO recruitment, and
safety committee meetings.
Additionally, the 5-6 gallon foam spill mentioned on page 14 of the Fire Chief's
Report was discussed. Deputy Chief Volpe explained that the Class B foam involved
contains "forever chemicals," which pose serious carcinogenic risks. All such foam
was pulled and stored on pallets in the warehouse for disposal. An employee
discovered a spill from a cardboard box of 5-gallon containers. The hazmat team
was called in to isolate, clean, and properly dispose of the material, and the incident
was reported.
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Recess was called at 11.33 a.m., and the meeting reconvened at 11.46 a.m.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Review and Discuss Guidelines for Fire Commissioner Station Visits. The commission
reviewed a draft internal memo outlining the process for station visits. Suggestions were
made to improve the language related to visit requests and to clarify that commissioners
shall not interfere with departmental administrative matters or operations.
The item will be continued to the next meeting. Chair Kosaki and DCC Salas-Ferguson
will revise the draft, incorporating the suggested edits into a revised draft for review and
approval at the next meeting.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Employee Feedback Evaluation Process: The commission discussed a preliminary
questionnaire designed to gather feedback from department employees on the
department head's performance. A key point of discussion was whether to create
different surveys for different ranks or a single, anonymous survey that allows
respondents to select their rank category.
The item will be continued to the next meeting. Commissioner Cushnie will refine the
questionnaire and research best practices, including potential standardized survey
options such as those offered by Gallup.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Commission Secretary Position: The Commission discussed options to address the
secretary position, including providing an assistant to help alleviate the workload or
reinstating a dedicated secretary for the Fire Commission, as was done in the past.
Budget considerations were also discussed.
The Commission agreed to draft a letter to the Mayor, Fire Department, and Human
Resources outlining possible solutions, including funding a dedicated secretary for the
Fire Commission in accordance with the Charter. The letter will also request a formal
backup and contingency plan for times when the secretary is unavailable.
This item will be continued to the next meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
The Commission reviewed the draft 2024 Annual Report and discussed whether to
accept it as is or make amendments.
Chair Kosaki called for a motion to accept the report as written and begin work on the
2025 report, which would include the annual budget, a pie chart, and new additions
such as the opening of the new dispatch center.
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Commissioner Mattos made a motion to accept the report as is, seconded by
Commissioner Wolf.
Vice Chair Hirakami then made a motion to amend the report to include a 2024 budget
recap, a pie chart of station responses, and a note that the Commission looks forward to
the opening of the new dispatch center in 2025. He also requested the removal of a
sentence referencing safety concerns at a station, as it was considered hearsay and
opinion-based. Commissioner Magsalin seconded the motion, agreeing with the
proposed edits and highlighting the department's positive progress. Hirakami
emphasized that the report should be optimistic, informative, and reflective of the
Commission's efforts, especially since it is submitted to the Mayor, County Council, and
Managing Director. Magsalin also shared her perspective as a member of the
Commission.
Chair Kosaki responded that the report is a factual overview of the Commission's
activities and not a negative evaluation. He stated that it's his responsibility as chair to
present a realistic picture, acknowledging that while the chief provides good reports,
there is always room for improvement.
With no further discussion, the commission voted on the motion to amend the report.
In favor— Commissioners Porter, Magsalin, and Hirakami
Opposed — Commissioners Wolf, Cushnie, Mattos, and Kosaki
Abstained — Commissioner Hanano (newly appointed)
Motion to amend failed.
Chair Kosaki then called for a vote on the original motion to accept the report as written.
In favor— Commissioners Wolf, Porter, Cushnie, Kosaki, and Mattos
Opposed — Commissioners Magsalin and Hirakami
Abstained — Commissioner Hanano
Motion carried. Chair Kosaki directed Ms. Correa to submit the report.
NEW BUSINESS
Fire Chief Performance Evaluation Form: A new, simplified draft of the Fire Chiefs
performance evaluation form was reviewed. The form is similar to the original version
and includes six main categories with bullet points to guide the evaluation.
DCC Salas-Ferguson recommended amending the form to incorporate duties required
by the County Charter.
Commissioner Wolf moved to accept the new form with the suggested amendment to
include Charter requirements. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Cushnie.
There was no further discussion, and the motion carried unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
Correspondence No. 25-01: Letter from the Hawaii Fire Fighters Association regarding
recent promotions: Chair Kosaki invited Deputy Chief Volpe to respond to the letter from
the Hawaii Fire Fighters Association (HFFA) concerning recent promotions. Deputy
Chief Volpe emphasized the confidentiality of the promotion process, stating that details
such as candidate scores and performance cannot be discussed publicly to maintain the
integrity of the process. He explained that he would discuss general procedures.
DCC Salas-Ferguson confirmed that certain personnel matters are confidential, as
advised by HR, but general information about the promotion process can be shared.
Chair Kosaki noted the union's concerns regarding candidates not meeting minimum
qualifications. Deputy Chief Volpe reviewed publicly available job specifications and
explained the qualifications and roles for Battalion Chiefs, Captains, and Assistant
Chiefs.
When asked about the Special Operations Battalion Chief role, Volpe explained that
their role is a program manager. They shifted their BCs away from supervisors to
managers. All BC positions are management positions. They manage the budget,
financial planning, training resources, research and development, policies, and
procedures.
Chair Kosaki recognized the complexity of the position and noted that prior experience
is invaluable, quoting "there's no substitute for experience." Volpe agreed and stated
they're pulling the special operations chief out of the task mindset and getting them into
a strategic mindset, where they can oversee a program.
Vice Chair Hirakami asked about the interview process, confidentiality, and union
representation. Volpe explained that HR manages the application and qualification
screening process, and the department develops the assessment. He confirmed that
scores are confidential and only shared directly with candidates during follow-up
meetings to provide performance feedback. Regarding union representation, Volpe
clarified that Battalion Chiefs are excluded managerial employees, not part of the HFFA,
and they're not automatically included in HGEA. There's a segment of HGEA that will
represent them; some do pay HGEA union dues.
Commissioner Wolf emphasized that the key issue raised by the HFFA letter is safety.
She stated that, as a citizen, it is crucial to have leadership with experience. She noted
that the union's concerns extend beyond just one or two isolated issues.
Deputy Chief Volpe noted that no official personnel orders announcing promotions have
been issued yet. DCC Salas-Ferguson expressed concerns that confidential information
may have been improperly disclosed by the union but reminded the commission of its
role to ensure fair recruitment standards without interfering in individual hiring decisions.
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Commissioner Cushnie agreed that requiring candidates to have experience in all three
phases of the Special Operations Chief's duties would limit the pool of applicants. He
asked if Training and Experience (T&E) points are awarded for relevant experience,
such as time spent as a rescue captain or in aviation, so candidates receive credit for
their background rather than being discounted.
Deputy Chief Volpe explained that T&E points are based on the candidate's position
and years served, with credit given accordingly. He emphasized that the process aims
to be fair and equitable and that awarding points for specific positions was found to be
unfair. Cushnie stressed the value of time and experience and noted that while some
candidates may lack certain background due to timing or opportunity, it shouldn't
diminish their experience. Volpe agreed but added that while prior experience is
important, the role focuses on strategic leadership beyond task-level duties and
candidates are not penalized for their experience or lack thereof.
Commissioner Cushnie inquired about the selection process for the assessment panel.
Deputy Chief Volpe indicated some details might be best discussed in executive
session. DCC Salas-Ferguson advised caution to avoid disclosing sensitive information.
Volpe explained that the panel typically includes evaluators at least one rank higher
than the candidates (e.g., Captains evaluate FEOs, BCs evaluate Captains), and
panelists are chosen based on familiarity with the specialized functions being assessed.
When asked about using outside panelists from other jurisdictions, Volpe said this had
been attempted in the past but was rejected by Human Resources, requiring the
process to be repeated. He expressed confidence that internal panelists possess
sufficient relevant experience.
Commissioner Magsalin asked about grievances related to candidate selection. Deputy
Chief Volpe acknowledged a few grievances in recent years, generally related to
changes in criteria or instructions, but he was not directly involved.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING
No agenda items were suggested. Chair Kosaki advised that anyone wishing to submit
items for a future agenda should email him at least two weeks before the meeting. He
will then forward the requests to DCC Salas-Ferguson and Ms. Correa.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Kosaki announced the next regular meeting is scheduled for Thursday, July 24,
2025, at 9.00 a.m., at the County Building, Council Chambers, Suite 1401, 25 Aupuni
Street, Hilo, HI.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 1.35 p.m.
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SUBMITTED BY: CHARISSE CORREA, SECRETARY
APPROVED BY: GERALD KOSAKI, CHAIR